What’s the fastest a movie has gone from “good” to “bad”?

I really think they should have made it a thriller where a feral cat gets loose in there

Oh my gosh that movie is so weird. Two completely different plots got stitched together by someone who huffs paint.

So much potential. The trailer was a complet misleading and nothing was important for the plot the downsizing thing. Horrible!

Regardless- one of my favorite scenes of all time is in that movie. The morning after Paul and Ngoc sleep together and then they go into the cockpit of the boat- how Dusan silently reacts. It is fucking hilarious and Christoph Waltz is incredible

What kind of fuck you give me?

Definitely the beginning when it was just drunken superman was hilarious.

That's three movies in a trenchcoat if I ever saw one.

My friend bought the dvd and it showed Theron as a Superman person on the cover completely ruining the shitty twist lol

That stupid plot twist ruined the entire movie, which was pretty good up to that point.

I watched an audience test version of Hancock before the CGI was finished and pointed out exactly what the problem was that every reviewer mentioned as soon as it was out.

So they had their chance 😆

The Pitch Meeting for that is hilarious.

I still vividly remember that disappointed feeling when she throws him through the wall

The random soliloquy about hot dogs is gold

M. Night Shyamalan movies are my guilty pleasure. I like almost all of them except for Airbender and After Earth. My favorite one is Lady in the Water because for whatever reason me and my sister really grew fond of Paul Giamattis character.

WHAT

No

If ever a movie peaked too early. I was incredibly psyched watching the opening credits, but it sadly went rapidly downhill right after. The idea of Logan and Sabertooth fighting through all these wars would've been an incredible film in itself; instead we got... what we got 🤷

The irony, the tie in video game was actually really good.

The war montage in the first five minutes should have just been the entire movie…

Yep, would have been a much more powerful movie if Diana killed Ares but the humans continued to fight and it turned out Ares wasn't creating the war, he was feeding off of what was already there.

Diana becomes disenchanted with Humanity and that's why she doesn't show up until BvS.

For me, part of the interesting aspect was that it was teasing a dilemma it had no way to resolve satisfactorily: The Main Character, who legitimately comes from a divine pantheon where Ares is the God of War, is trying to blame a human conflict for which we are very familiar with the causes that led up to it on that external deity. While we have accepted pseudo-divine intervention in human history in superhero films before (like Thor), it's usually kind of coy and still establishes that humans have their own free will, and are largely responsible for the good and bad things of our own history.

It was a very fine needle to thread, and the film just couldn't pull it off even with its "Kinda yes, kinda no" compromise answer.

Yeah, my head cannon is that Ares has been taking on the forms of peacemakers for all of human history instead of being whispers in the head for genocide. Would have made the movie so much better.

One of my biggest third act failures, which is saying a lot for DCU movies

Is that the one where there’s a ball/dance on the deck and a cable cuts the party in two halves?

Yes, I thought the visuals were great in the movie and the opening scene was unique and caught my attention like this would be an interesting movie.

If those roles had been better cast, that would’ve been a much better movie.

Yes! Brosnan was a great Bond. Goldeneye is one of my faves of any of them. The rest of his were never quite as good but we're solid. When Die Another Day started with the whole failed mission and then rogue Bond scenes I was like, "we're back!" It was cool stuff but then that peaked and more and more goofy stuff kept creeping in until he is...argh...catching gnarly waves in the Arctic and driving around in an invisible car. Ugh.

I think the last great scene to me was the over the top bonkers fencing match where he got under the bad guys craw and it gets unhinged. Fun but also character specific stuff. Then...

Good choice!

Killing Roxy was just bull

Side Note: The trailer for King’s Man was selling an entirely different film from what it actually was…

I wondered how much Channing Tatum got for his minute of screen time.

This was so disappointing. It made me wonder if whoever was funding it said, “we need more American appeal.” The first movie is so much fun. The second was ruined a few minutes in.

...Duddits?

But Ian Malcolm’s line is so useful in so many places: Oh, yeah. Oooh, ahhh, that's how it always starts. Then later there's running and screaming.

That scene with the bus hanging off a cliff and Julianne Moore crawling on top of the slowly cracking rear windshield with the full view of the horrible plummet right below is so memorable. As an action set piece it ratcheted that tension to the extreme. I feel the movie kind of peaks here and then isn’t able to match it ever again.

T-Rex in San Diego was fun as a kid. Now, I can't help but be confused as to how the Rex killed everyone in the crew cabins and control rooms. It's not reaching into those tight quarters. The fuck sort of clownery happened on that boat?!

Jeff Goldblum’s daughter deserves an Oscar for that scene. Flawless execution. Stuck the landing. Head over heels. 10/10 /s

I'm still pissed about this one and it's been almost 45 years.

I get that they wrote themselves into a paradox corner, but the whole premise was so hokey anyway, the right thing would have been to just say fuck it and throw history to the winds, like Inglorious Basterds did.

If the entire movie was based around Scorpion and Subzero’s rivalry, that movie would’ve been badass. Instead we had to sit through 2/3 of it watching some new dude try to figure out what his power is. Then when he finally figures it out, it’s one of the lamest powers ever lol

But certainly it picked up when the tournament actually began right? Right?!

Was it fan service?? I thought it was almost anti fan service, like creating that new main character that every video game fan hated

And the addition of the tattoo thingie birthmark giving you your super powers was also a pointless anti fan service addition

My favorite scene in the movie is when Ruffalo’s character is alone in his hotel room trying desperately to uncover the identity of the mysterious benefactor that is financing the 4 Horseman. Which we come to find out Spoiler

I remember watching this and thinking: Okay, soSpoiler

The premise seemed incredible, but it was so completely implausible that they may as well have been actually using real magic the whole time.

Maek Ruffalo’s silly face at the end is still burned in my brain because of how dumb it was

My issue with Argylle wasn’t the over the top action sequences, I was expecting an overly-dramatic/comedic spy film so I was prepared for that, it was the length of the movie. It could have been 30-45 minutes shorter and I think more people would have enjoyed it. If you’re going to make an overly-dramatic/comedic spy film it can’t be over 2 hours.

That’s immediately what came to mind for me. Great concept. Solid setup. Then you realize it’s gone on a little long and they aren’t wrapping it up. And then….just….wut?? I wish I could have set up a timelapse of my facial expressions watching it. It may have resulted in a more compelling story.

By the seventh twist I nearly shouted “make up your damn mind!” Also, I’m no expert but I don’t think you can ice skate oil.

Yeah, I agree. They were off to an awesome start. Unfortunately I think it peaked early at the Train scene. I was really looking forward to more of that and it just got ridiculous.

Have you ever seen Clonus: The Parts Horror? It’s the movie Bay ripped off to make The Island. So basically The Island without all the Bay-splosions.

The movie is called Cowboys & Aliens, but it's so weirdly serious. It sort of feels like a gritty western at times, but then aliens show up, and it's kind of comical. It's really bizarre. Maybe if it was serious all the way through and the aliens were a mystery and more scary, it would have worked better. They also could have committed to the title and made it just goofy. It falls into this odd middle ground of being too serious and too goofy.

I've spent more time than I'd like thinking about where that movie went wrong.

1) Casting Daniel Craig. He's a great actor, but stoic, lantern jawed antihero is not playing to his strengths. Unlike James Bond, he doesn't get to be witty or sexy, just angry and sullen. Like Captain Marvel, Jake Lonergan is also struggling with amnesia for most of the movie (that old cliche) and so just doesn't have much to say or do.

2) The tone. It's just not fun. Favreau hews so closely to the gritty, grimy westerns he clearly loves, that the movie has inherited their cynical, nihilistic undertones all throughout. It touches on themes of colonialism, american exceptionalism, and all that stuff... in a movie with aliens in it.

3) The aliens aren't interesting. They're CGI monsters with no rhyme or reason to what they do. They howl and run into massed gunfire like crazed zombies and so the audience can't engage with them as a concept outside of being cannon fodder. I know it breaks the 'realism' that Favreau wanted but they should be intelligent aliens that have a universal translator. Something to contextualise them a little more. Hell, even the aliens in Independence Day had the scene where they talk through Brent Spiner.

4) Olivia Wilde's character. She's an alien in disguise and has a strange connection to Jake. But Jake has a wife, so it's less of a romantic subplot and more just... a series of oddly charged platonic interactions. There's nothing for the audience to root for between them. Instead, we're rooting for him to reunite with his offscreen wife who we've never really met.

TLDR, wrong tone, tried to do too much, wasn't enjoyable.

The most interesting thing about Rebel Moon is the lawsuit with Evil Genius Games. It looks like Netflix hired them to make a tabletop RPG based on Rebel Moon but gave them absolutely no info to go with. So EGG did a bunch of worldbuilding and essentially came up with all the backstory and history for the setting. They sent proofs to the Netflix people, who liked it so much that they claimed EGG had breached their contract (by showing off some concept art Netflix had already been showing around), then claimed ownership over the setting and storytelling bible that EGG had written whole cloth.

As soon as they just casually introduced Slipknot, I knew they fucked up. Never before have I seen such an obviously choreographed red shirt before…

Edit: *telegraphed not choreographed

The main thing I remember about this movie is that there's a specific moment that me and all three of the friends I went to see it with all sighed at the same time, and the fact that we did that was more entertaining than most of the movie (as evidenced by the fact that I can't remember what exact part of the movie it was.).

Weirdly enough, I liked most of the Deadshot stuff, and hated them wedging Joker into the movie at all (especially wasting the time and energy to drag Jared Leto into the whole affair). I still think it would have worked better with Joker as a faceless boogeyman of a character that we never really get to see, except maybe for a hand or a shadowed profile.

man idk i thought it was pretty awful from the jump

there's just so, so many baffling decisions made in that movie, but when its revealed like 10 minutes into the thing that "it's clobberin time" was what bens abusive brother yelled when he was kicking bens ass, i had a pretty good idea where the movie was headed

I listened to an episode of the podcast What Went Wrong about that today actually!

I wish I could watch the original movie the director made before Fox hacked the shit out of it.

Your typo on the title makes it sound like Bond works in a cubicle and his wife asked him how his day was when he got home

It was one of those movies I keep thinking "I wonder how they are going to end this"....a fuckin thumb drive

I just wanna know how he manages to fool everyone at the DMV I to thinking he's a normal human

Well we know why it had to be high schoolers 😏

But for real, that early shot of The Creeper tossing that body down the pipe then whipping around as Trisha and Darry drive along… 🫣

Interestingly, the first 30 minutes scared me so much that I turned off the movie and had nightmares, trouble sleeping, fucked me up. Way too young to see it

Due to peer pressure I finished the movie later on and the fact that the bad guy was some fable demon with wings got rid of all my fears. No longer a murdering psychopath, but rather something that is obviously not real

I would say it’s even earlier: Connor McGregor is basically so over the top and yet wooden at the same time that I lost all sense that this was trying to be a real movie 30 seconds after he shows up.

Going from the show to the book story had me scratching my head. None of their changes were for the better. Why couldn’t they keep the Envoys as government agents? It’s literally in the name as UN Envoys.

Goes from slick sci-fi detective story to a garbage post apocalyptic YA romance.

I wanted this show to be good, so bad. Kinnaman carried the first season (which was a bit too fast paced imho) but then came Mackie and ruined S2. Too bad. Loved the visuals tho. I was really curious how will they show the angels in S3, blue balls.

Pretty much the usual case of them starting to write their own shit, instead of keeping following the book.

To be fair to everyone involved, a lot of the movie had to be scrapped and/or rewritten for Bruce Willis, since it's been implied and unofficially stated that he started presenting some of his dementia symptoms during filming, which made it difficult for him to do certain scenes. Shyamalan worked with what he had. I've heard you can find some of the original script floating around, and it was much better.

Yeah it did get really weird and depressing at the end didn’t it?