From FB
Convicted of what?
Blinded a guy, was convicted of a hate crime, tried to say his work in theater should absolve him. Bullshit along those lines.
Well shit. I'm always amazed how certain famous men are not in prison. I can think of a president too.
I think he went to prison. This was way before he was famous or before his brother was (iirc)
It was when he was 15 to 16 years old. So like 38 years ago. Not saying what he did was right, but at the same time I do think people can change their ways from when they were a teenager
Yeah, we have to allow people to change. That's how society gets better. He's acknowledged what he did was terrible, and from what I know his victim has forgiven him and they've both since connected and healed emotionally from it. People keep bringing it up like it's proof that he's a bad person now. He's not. We want people to be better and for society to be better but when someone is held accountable, then punished, and then they grow from it reddit loves to hold them to their shitty versions forever. Tiring
The only time he ever actually reached out to the man was when he was trying to advertise for his burger chain. He has also on multiple occasions tried to get it fully absolved and deleted off his record for both of his exceptionally violent hate crimes. People often can work towards forgiveness.
Mark Wahlberg has not done anything showing that he has actually changed.
(A public apology in the middle of advertising your burger chain is blatantly not an apology)
I believe that was all so he could get liquor license and they don't give those out to convicted felons.
Plus, I just don't like him because he has the acting range of an avocado. I can't stand looking at his miserable smug face. Screw this guy.
Only 1 victim has forgiven him. The black kids he assaulted have not. The fact society tends to forget he attacked more than the one person says a lot. The reason people don’t forget is because he is only apologetic when it might affect his career or businesses.
Taken in the greater context of who he is and how he behaves he hasn't grown at all. He still says shit like how if he has been on one of the planes "things would have gone down different" on 9/11. He's an arrogant asshole that attacked someone because he was Asian.
If you want to grow away from being a violent racist, great! But I'm not going to congratulate you on being less of a piece of shit as you were. You don't get to demand forgiveness and get mad when people won't extend it. All you can do is actually be sorry, and accept that you don't get to decide when other people forgive you for you choices.
I was a very hateful teen. Grew up Mormon, and even in 4 years from 14 to 18 I changed a lot. Went from being homophobic with internalized racism and sexism, to bring non-binary and super left leaning.
That was not the only hate crime he has been accused of. People can change, or they just learn to hide their true selves better.
I mean yeah people can, but he's still clearly into and now peddling far right conspiracy theories that encourage the kinda bigotry that caused him to commit that hate crime (pic related)
I was raised in a fundie cult, I said and believed a lot of bigoted thing when I was a teenager, the difference between Mark and I is that I'm not going out publically with a cross on my forehead saying "They are trying to stop people from being Christian! I won't let them" and instead I condemn my former beliefs and actions and criticise the ideology behind them
Can think of plenty of athletes
I’m not for or against Mark, but it was when he was 15 and 16 years old, which would most likely stem from his family uprising. That was also 40 years ago too while receiving a pardon from the state as well as apologized privately to one of the victims, albeit 30 years later.
Basically, people do stupid things as teenagers and clearly he’s not racist anymore (at least publicly during the digital era) and has an organization to help the “inner city youth” as his foundation shows. People like to talk trash about a 15 year old kid but he’s grown up since then clearly.
He did go to prison, he was a minor when that happened, did his time, never did that shit again. People really leave out HUGE FUCKING INFORMATION when they parrot that shit. Like, he was a racist piece of shit kid, he did go to prison for a time, got out and change his life around. That is WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN. Reddit just can't let it go that he is a changed man than his 15 yo self.
In the spirit of providing more information, it's important to add some additional context. He was arrested for nearly KILLING one of these 2 Vietnamese men whom he assaulted while shouting racial slurs. This was 2 years AFTER he was sued for throwing rocks at black children while shouting OTHER racial slurs. He was 16, and then 18 when he committed these crimes. Most importantly, he served only a total of 45 days in jail. He didn't pay for his mistakes nor did he learn from them as evidenced by the fact that in 1992, now a 22 year old man, he kicked a man in the face fracturing his jaw. Marky Mark was a piece of shit and I personally believe that Mark Wahlberg is also a racist piece of shit. He just has more restraint and (maybe) less PCP in his system these days.
My favorite Marky Mark fact is that he had a ticket to one of the flights that would be used in the 9/11 attacks. His response to this revelation was to publicly say things would have been different if he were on the flight. Dude genuinely believes he’d have stopped 9/11. Since you didn’t know about the hate crime I figured you didn’t know this and that’s such a funny reaction to 9/11 that he had.
whichone_gabe.gif
He also threw rocks at black kids when he was a teenager and called them the N word and chased them
Funny how people leave that part out when talking about his past. They only mention the victim that forgave him.
Oh yeah he's pretty racist, now that would be a statement though
Permanently scarred a 10yo girl, if I remember correctly.
I think the person was already one eye blind, nonetheless, marky mark was a full blown racist who would violently attack non whites. i seriously doubt he stop being one, contrary to what he says
Yeah I don't remember the full details, I disliked the guy before the crimes. He really nailed his role in The Departed, I'll give him that. In the shitty person aspect.
Admittedly he is GREAT at playing horrible people.
But I think thats because it's not acting and he is just being himself.
Exactly what I was thinking!
He’s a fairly talented actor but an absolute piece of shit dick, but hey he works with Mel Gibson now who is also talented and a complete giant asshole. Maybe Marky can use his talent to take his absolute piece of shit dick and use it to fuck Mel Gibson’s talented giant asshole. And we might actually get some art these days from those bigoted pieces of shit.
At least we are getting a sequel to Passion of the Christ, which was one of the dumbest fucking movies ever made. In the sequel Jim Casual or whatever the fuck his name is, plays Jesus as he descends into hell to fight demons or something. I’m sure it won’t be totally unhinged. Maybe Mark will show up as some racist dude who assaults Asians but gets absolved by Jesus because of his faith.
You disliked him before he was famous? Because the crimes were before he became famous.
That's just level 1 and 2 on the path to becoming a Christian.
Work in theater? Shaking his ass in baggy jeans is the closest that this has been to a stage! Theater??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg
I believe that part was a rumor.
Wahlberg believed he had left the second victim permanently blind in one eye, though Trinh later said that he had lost his eye during the Vietnam War while serving in the South Vietnamese army, which fought alongside American forces.
Maybe his faith should deny him...
That's just how Bostonians say hello. Hate crime? No it's the polite way to say welcome to Boston.
Mr Mark "Marky Mark" Wahlberg is the only movie star whose Wikipedia article has a whole section on Hate Crimes
Plural? WTF
Yep. It's a hell of a read. Guy is nuts.
Also this part:
"Wahlberg was booked to fly on American Airlines Flight 11 on September 11, 2001, but his plans changed the day before and he cancelled his reservation.
He received backlash for stating in a 2012 interview, "If I was on that plane with my kids, it wouldn't have went down like it did".
He added that "there would have been a lot of blood in that first-class cabin and then me saying, 'OK, we're going to land somewhere safely, don't worry.'"
He issued an apology after family members of those killed on the flight expressed outrage."
What the fuck, dude!?
He once terrorized a bus full of black children.
Threw rocks at them while screaming the n-word.
Per the Wikipedia article
In August 1986, civil action was filed against Wahlberg for violating the civil rights of his victims, and Wahlberg and his friends were issued a civil rights injunction which served as a warning that they would be jailed if they committed another hate crime.
He was later jailed for committing a different hate crime (perhaps two different ones on the same day — the timing is a little unclear) that left one victim unconscious.
tbf most celebs are terrible people. Lizzo abusing her staff, Brad Pitt beating up and choking his own children on a plane, Kevin Spacey being a serial rapist, Bill Cosby being a serial rapist, Ellen being an abuser to her staff, Johnny Depp's life of violence and abuse, Sean Penn's abuse and violenting attacking photographers, Nicholas Cage's arrest for domestic violence, Emma Roberts arrest for domestic violence, Mel Gibson's domestic abuse and drunk driving and racist tirades, Josh Brolin's arrest for domestic abuse, Christian Slater's arrest for domestic abuse, Charlie Sheen, etc.
Mark is awful but lets also acknowledge his peers are also awful too.
One I just learned about: Ringo Starr. Godammit!!!
John Lennon's violence against women is more known, but dammit Ringo!
From what I read, and not his first game of whack 'em all he got super-drunk and beat his wife horribly, then next day woke up and was like "OMG, what happened?" He happened. He was so horrified it made him immediately give up drinking, and has been about peace and love ever since. I hope that part's true. Still gonna curse his name, regardless.
We don't know if most celebrities are terrible people. Some of them definitely are, but claiming most are is just hyperbole.
Almost beating ethnic minorities to death. The guy is an absolute prick.
Are we allowed to cancel him yet?
Ironically if he actually had even the tiniest fraction of Christian (or any other faith’s) values he’d realise that his soul is getting fingered to bits in the afterlife.
Unless he literally just asked Jesus to forgive him or went to confession.
Even by their own rules sins are fucking meaningless.
You're supposed to genuinely repent for them to be forgiven, which not many Christians (or anyone else tbf) do in my experience. Presumably the omniscient deity involved can tell.
Catholics, amusingly enough, often seem better about that. Maybe a result of confession, going through some of their sins with a witness?? Idk, could just be sample error.
He did repent. Did that when he was a teen, got out, and regretted it and changed his life around. How did he not repent? He even apologized to the guy and the guy forgave him. What else do you want?
They want their pound of flesh.
what are you on about? He was a minor he went to jail and from all his actions we have seen he has changed.
Literal hate crimes against multiple people
That explains the prison tattoo on his forehead
He was convicted most recently in 1988. I feel like he’s probably rehabilitated if he’s gone 36 years without reoffending.
He reoffended in 1992 but settled it out of court, so 32 I guess.
that offense ironically was breaking the jaw of a man shouting slurs at him and his friend.
He admitted he was a shithead as a teen because he had an unstable home life and ran with shitheads. Wahlberg hates what he did, but drudging up something from almost 40 years ago is such a dumbass thing to do.
He's created programs so kids don't end up like he did. He grew up and learned. The fact that you're pulling this shit from when a man was 15 years old is just the pinnacle of fucking dumb. Get a life.
I mean, aren't we supposed to believe in rehabilitation and all for criminals?
Yep, Wahlberg is a massive POS regardless of his faith.
But his Jesus does forgive.
and what the fuck does not mean pointing it out? he's a convicted felon something he did 30 years ago as a teenager
The constant martyrdom from this crowd...
One of the things I remember from growing up Christian is the consistent preaching about how you will be judged as a Christian.
It's such utter nonsense, especially growing up in a country that has been predominately Christian since it's inception. The incessant victim complex despite very rarely being a victim (in the US, I understand Christians in other countries can be victims) is absolutely eye roll inducing.
I grew up in a fundamentalist household and church. We were constantly told the world would hate us for our faith. I never experienced it, but I have definitely experienced the faithful hating people who don't share their views.
And they always seem to fail to realize is that the growing distaste for them is because they're just insufferable assholes. Like, the call is coming from inside the house and it's all a self fulfilling prophecy when you treat other people like shit because of your "religious beliefs."
I had a recent argument with a very close friend of mine that probably ended our friendship. He completely turned his life around and became religious in the last few years, which I have no problem with. He quit drinking and smoking which I am very proud of him for.
However he has also became very preachy and judgmental over the same period which we mostly just ignore.
He popped of recently and said(paraphrased) "Y'all can't stand me now because I am living a better life than y'all are." And I replied, "No, we can't stand you because you have become a massive cunt since you found God." It was a bit more than that, but that was the gist of it. Needless to say, we haven't spoken since.
What sticks out to me about this is that people can have these kinds of perceptions with a lot of different things in situations where they found something that helped them be a better person. It can really happen with anyone with any set of beliefs, whether it be religious or not. It's this perception that they found something that helped improve them as a person and everyone else that isn't doing that something too is doing it wrong. I get it to an extent because it feels good to get your shit together, but as soon as someone becomes a preachy prick about anything it's a major turn off for me.
Exactly, I had vegetarian friends do this exact thing. So it definitely isn't confined to religious beliefs.
He may have found God, but he still sees the world as "black" and "white" rather than they grey it actually is.
Actually the black part are the people he beat up on during desegregation in Boston when he was young.
A better way to phrase it might have been "no, we can't stand you because you act like you're better than everyone else now that you've found God" but I have no issue with what you said.
Nah, he was being a massive cunt. lol
It's always projection with conservatives. It's (almost) always baldfaced lies to boot.
I grew up in a Christian household but it was what I assume people would consider a normal one and I’m from the south. I went on a church ski trip because skiing and there was one night we had to go to this church event.
They had a whole video and skit talking about how they were so embarrassed about people finding out they were Christians and I was just sitting there thinking “what the fuck are they talking about, the vast majority of people I go to school with and am around are too”
Indoctrination at its peak. Teach hate where there is none to perpetuate mindless hate.
Fucked up my mental health as a child because I thought everyone was laser focused on everything I did and was judging me all the time. Shoes scuffed from playing outside? Judged. Shirt a little dirty or sweaty from riding bike along riverside trails? Judged. Misspelled words on homework? Judged.
I was also constantly afraid people were going to attack me for being Christian. I very specifically remember being scared shitless that Satanists were going to attack my family while we watched a Gremlins-Cannonball Run double feature at the drive-in theater. I was so scared of that happening that I didn't even watch the movies.
And what did I get as a reward for all that paranoia? A 40 year old preacher trying to convince my sister and I that God wanted us to suck his cock or our parents would go to Hell and be tortured for eternity. We ran home and told Mom what the preacher tried to do, but how many kids didn't? We never went back to church again, and only as an adult did I find out our entire family was banished from the church because Mom confronted the preacher and didn't accept his denials.
Wow, your experience is way more fucked up than mine. The Assistant Senior Pastor of our 2,000+ church, and also a close family friend and kindly grandfatherly figure, we'd all go trap shooting on his ranch once or twice a month. Long story short, he poisoned his wife of over 50 years to death and ran off with his secretary. Even though the poison in her system was found in his California shed and only sold in his home state of Arkansas, the cops 'allegedly' couldn't put the murder weapon in his hand, and he got away with it. That's what started me wondering about the actual truthfulness of religion, because if the senior church leadership were terrible people, then obviously more religion =/ better people. It took a long while to realize that if the magic stuff in the religious books wasn't 100% factually historically accurate, then the rest of it was just well-documented folk lore. And since there is zero evidence of any supernatural activity anywhere in the observable universe, it's probably a safe bet that all religions are just elaborate fish tales. The easiest way for any religion to prove me wrong would be for its deity to show up and introduce itself to the world, and we all know that'll never happen.
Definitely currently in the process myself of unpacking a lot of my religious upbringing in therapy and how it fucked me up and stunted me in some ways.
I like to listen to christian music as it is kind of nostalgic for me and when I believed. I had a conversation with my wife just this week about how silly it is with all these songs about “not being ashamed” when atheists are shamed exponentially more than any variation of Christianity in America.
You like sufjan stevens?
I can’t say I have heard that one. Mainly newsboys, audio adrenaline, Dc talk, Third Day, stuff that was popular in the 90s when I believed. And a little MercyMe recently. Will check it out though.
It's wildly different, just like to recommend him when people talk about christian music that isn't gospel
Well still. Thank you for the recommendation!
I'm a preachers kid and totallyyyyy forgot about these groups haha. I left the church years ago, but add in KJ52 or Toby Mac and that was the only music I could have on in the house haha
atheists are shamed exponentially more than any variation of Christianity in America.
I know a non-believers group in my area. One might easily think it’s all for atheists to get all logic-high on Christians…kinda how the subreddit can get…but in reality - it’s a lot of normal people sharing crazy stories about how fearful they are to admit they don’t believe in god.
Online is a false representation of atheism online, especially in red states. These are people deeply afraid of sharing their opinions on faith because of how hostile Christians and others can be towards non-belief.
I grew up Christian and went to private Christian school through high school. I was told that if I went to a secular college, professors will ask students who are Christian to stand up and then they would immediately kick you out. If you denied your faith in that moment, you weren’t a Christian. Fast forward to 16 year old me starting early and enrolling in a biology and English lit class at the local community college.
The biology class was in an auditorium. I remember freaking out on the first day because obviously, I would be asked to admit to my Christianity and then be ejected from a room of 300 other people. And then… it never happened. It never happened at community college, it never happened at University. It never happened in grad school and it never happened in the workplace.
Edit to add that I was woefully behind in anything science related. Guess earth isn’t 6000 years old?
Almost all of the people judging Christians are other Christians. On whether or not they are Christian enough.
I'm not a Christian, but I certainly judge Christians a lot because they give me a lot of reason to.
…on whether they perform xtianity well enough.
Yeah. I was raised Southern Baptist. There is no group of people more judgemental... Turned me off religion at a very early age.
I was raised Baptist. I enjoyed it.... Until our pastors sons wife left him for molesting their children and the church kicked the wife and kids out.
Edit for accuracy: it wasn't the current pastor at the time, the guy pedo was the former pastors sons. But the former pastor and his son remained members of the church and the wife and kids were excluded. They knew he molested his kids and the former pastor paid her a few million to drop the charges. The mom didn't want her kids to have to testify or send their dad to prison so she took the money and got custody. They kicked her out for keeping the kids from him. The youth pastor who was my biggest role model left the church over this. The youth pastor was a combat veteran and when the pedo came to church after the incident the youth pastor called him out for what he was so he got kicked out of the church too.
I remember at youth liturgy they had us convinced at some point at school someone would like us all up and make us decide between denying our religion or living up to it and getting shot. I participated in a video skit for this in middle school.
This situation is kind of funny because at this point in my life if someone lined me up and asked me if I believed in God or not and if I said no, I would be shot, I would just take the shot.
I remember after Columbine there was a story about a girl (Cassie) who was asked if she believed in God, refused to renounce her faith, and was killed for it.
Of course, this was 1999 and people believed anything they heard if it made for a good story. The truth is that the real Cassie was killed unceremoniously with no discussion of her faith. Another student was taunted about her faith after being shot, but wasn't executed for it (she even survived her extant wounds and lived). But the Christian public didn't let a story of martyrdom go to waste.
I remember that. I was a freshman in high school. We signed a huge banner that was supposed to be sent to those students. I also remember that story about Cassie going around. People were proud of and celebrating the thought of her dying in her faith like that and were angry when people said they were wrong and it wasn't true.
The God Awful Movies podcast has reviewed multiple Christian movies with the same conceit.
They'll bark so hard, and when anyone barks back they turn into the previously aggressive puppy, now laying on its back squeeling like it was bitten.
Mark Wahlberg was supposedly raised catholic in Boston. I am a little bit younger than he is but was also raised catholic in the area. I havent practiced in quite some time but I never once heard that catholics were persecuted. MA catholics are also very liberal. While the church is against a woman's right to choose, every catholic I know is pro choice. This whole thing he's doing now is more like a victim complex of his own making. The victim stuff is more an evangelical thing.
Lifelong Christian and learned this amazing thing growing up after being told I'd be judged for my beliefs and people would actively entice me to sin.
Don't be an asshole. If not doing a thing is a personal boundary for you, other people by and large respect it.
Absolutely shocking revelation.
Don't be an asshole.
This is what it really comes down to for me. I identify as an agnostic, but I predominately just don't really care about the religion, is there/isn't there a God debates anymore. I don't adhere to any sort of religious beliefs, really. I don't believe in heaven and hell. I don't believe in the Christian God. At the end of the day, if people believe in those tenants and ideas, I don't really care because they have little to no effect on me. When I do start to care is when people start forcing their beliefs onto others or judging people because they don't adhere to said beliefs. To me, that's less about the beliefs and more about being an asshole. I couldn't even care less if someone thinks I'm going to hell, but never expresses that to me. I don't know people's thoughts unless they speak them and share them. Just be a good person and treat people well. It's really not that hard, but far too many people struggle with that it seems.
If you actually lived like a Christian there are people who would hate and shame you. Helping the homeless to the point of washing their feet if need be, giving everything to help the poor and disenfranchised your considered poor and but default a bad person. Thing is, next to no Christian in the US lives by the standard, and worship the likes of Joel olstien, creeflo dollar and Donald Trump. Because God must love them because they're successful.
It made sense in ancient Rome, but the famous Bible quote didn't leave room for nuisance. E.g. "Sometimes you'll be hated because what you're doing is mean or stupid."
I was judged as a kid for believing in evolution in Texas.
Not even being atheist which I was but kept to myself, just believing in one of the most well supported scientific theories in human history.
I’ll never forget my ex-aunt-in-law whining on FB about it being ”so hard” to be a white Christian woman nowadays. Apparently there’s no other identifier more persecuted than that.
She said it to a gay man so I got in trouble because u asked her if she was fucking dumb 😂
No one is asking you to deny your faith. Just asking you to stfu about it. Not everything is Jesus. Not every solution involves the Bible. You become obnoxious when EVERY time someone has an issue or wants to vent about a problem you come up with the Bible says this and Jesus said that and don’t even help with a solution. You wouldn’t like it if you had a friend or coworker that constantly and daily quoted Harry Potter or lord of the rings in EVERY situation.
Not every solution involves the Bible.
Does ANY solution involve the Bible?
When someone asks "Where does it say that we're supposed to tolerate and accept people who are different than us?". There's quite a few passages relating to that in the New Testament. Most are credited to J-man, but there's still a lot from his squad.
I've found that the thin paper it's printed on can be used to roll joints in a pinch!
Well, if you want to smack somebody with a really heavy book...
I try my best to not let Marky Mark deny his racism.
In 1986, a then 15-year-old Wahlberg and three friends were charged for chasing three black children and pelting them with rocks while yelling: “Kill the n*****s” until an ambulance driver intervened.
The next day, Wahlberg harrassed another group of mostly black children (around the age of nine or 10) at the beach, gathering other white men to join in racially abusing and throwing rocks at them.
A seemingly unrelated second incident occurred two years later in 1988, when Wahlberg attacked two Vietnamese men while high on the drug PCP.
He called one man, Thanh Lam, a “Vietnam fucking s***” and knocked him unconscious with a five-foot wooden stick, while punching another man, army veteran Johnny Trinh, in the eye later in the same day. Officers reported that Wahlberg used racist slurs to describe both men.
To be fair, martyrdom is kinda the foundation of their religion
When people say "forcing me to deny my faith" it's usually a dog whistle to actually mean "I don't wanna accept the existence of gay people, trans people or women in power." You know basically the kind of stuff that Jesus would have told them to worry about their own sins for.
The persecuted majority
Look at from this perspective.
They are completely free to practice their religion exactly how they want to.
They consider martyrdom that they can’t impose it on everyone.
Making a religion out of the crucifixion of its founder is an absolute headfuck
Good point. At what point was Mark approached ... by anyone ... and asked to deny his faith?
He needs press since that transformers money dried up
It's fine. He's got that app for praying that he does commercials for. Not weird at all...
Looks like someone used the page with Mathew 6, 5 to 15 to wipe their butt with it.
Without looking it up is that the “don’t pray in public” one?
Yeah. But the message is more like "Don't be a showboating hypocrite".
Lots of people hate Catholicism because of the pedophilia and lots of people hate Christianity because of its association with Republicans politics.
He was probably just asked to shut up about it.
It was me. My bad guys.
How do you even… like what would you say? Literally “Hey! … wanna deny your faith?”
That said, when ever I've worked with him, he wasn't walking around proselytizing to me or anyone on stage. I couldn't honestly tell you what was going on inside of the green rooms or his trailers
Didn’t he beat up old people nearly to death for fun as a kid? How is he not cancelled yet? And, why are assholes always so religious?
He blinded an Asian man when he was 16 during a racist fueled rage.
Ah, a man of god I see.
Actually, he beat a half-blind Vietnamese man nearly to death. The man had given him shelter when Marky Mark was running from the cops. He thanked him as any racist would.
The man had given him shelter when Marky Mark was running from the cops
Not sure where you're getting that from. Never heard anything other than it was a random attack, and not finding anything that says otherwise now.
A 16 year old seriously fucked up kid did some seriously fucked up things. He served time for it, albeit much less than he was sentenced to. He subsequently turned his life around. That's the way it's supposed to work.
I've heard him talk about that part of his past in interviews. I'm sure he'd really really rather not, but he isn't hiding it, either.
He barely did any time, and refused to talk about it after. He never did anything for his victim since, then said he "forgave himself" while trying to get his record expunged. Why? Because he's part owner of Wahlburgers and they couldn't get a liquor license because of it. Not because he felt guilty.
And he didn't "turn his life around". He's a shaved chimp who can't act, making shit movies and denying his past crimes. Also, look up his comments about United 93 to see that he is and always will be an asshole.
He's a shaved chimp who can't act, making shit movies.
He was actually really, really good in The Departed.
"Refused to talk about it after"..
"In 2006, Wahlberg said the right thing for him to do would be to meet with Trinh and make amends."
"Wahlberg later said he regretted the attempt to obtain a pardon, and his petition was closed"
"In 2016, Wahlberg said he had met with Trinh and apologized "for those horrific acts". Trinh released a public statement forgiving Wahlberg."
“But I was able to meet with him and his wife and his daughter and apologize for those horrific acts."
“I have not engaged in philanthropic efforts in order to make people forget about my past. To the contrary, I want people to remember my past so that I can serve as an example of how lives can be turned around and how people can be redeemed, ” Wahlberg wrote in the 2014 request.
https://www.thewrap.com/mark-wahlberg-now-regrets-pardon-request-for-teenage-assault-conviction/
IDK, I actually liked Instant Family personally, not exactly one he's well known for but it was decent imo and he was alright in it.
It's ok he probably asked for forgiveness from his magic sky man so it's allllll ok. How nice. (/s)
Wow
They're religious because of the redemption angle. It's a way for people who have done horrendous acts to come back from it mentally. Which, honestly, is a part of the religion thing I'm kind of okay with. So long as people don't use as a catch all for then being able to be horrible whenever they want and just ask forgiveness. Rather, it often is a place of if you want to become a better person the sins of your past won't hold you back and that's actually a great thing so long as it encourages those people to do better.
You know, I was just now feeling the urge to make some folks deny their faith, but after reading this, I've decided not to. Thanks, Mark.
Me too. Fuck, now I need to redo my entire calendar for the next 3 months.
Does his faith command him to curb stomp Asians? What a hypocrite
…and throw rocks at black children while chasing them and shouting racist threats!
He did it on two separate occasions, it wasn't a one time thing. There's plenty of racists in the world, not many actively chase down 10 year old kids pelting them with rocks while shouting 'kill the n words".
So completely random, but as a recovered catholic, I have never seen the ash Wednesday cross done that large and that dark. Did the priest use a sharpie?
That’s what I’m saying! That shit looks like make up, not a thumb smudge.
As a non-Christian Asian I was frantically looking for explanation for whatever the fuck was on his forehead. Thank you. I had no idea.
Lol! No problem! On Ash Wednesday, the Wednesday before Easter, Catholics attend mass and the priest will quickly smudge the sign of the cross in ash on your forehead. As every Catholic/recovering Catholic will tell you, you spend the rest of the day being told you have dirt on your forehead. I've never seen it that dark, the cross that distinct or that large. Especially since I doubt the priest was at the studio, so it couldn't be too fresh, and since when do TV shows not put makeup on their guests.
Edit: correction, it's the first Wednesday of Lent. Sorry, it's been a long time.
Lol and my dumb ass was like "Why does he have a B-29 tattooed on his forehead?! Why is nobody saying anything about it?! Why is everybody giving him a second??!!"
My husband asked why he had a sniper mark on his forehead.
Another commenter said this interview happened 12 days after Ash Wednesday, and after he released a religious app, so they speculate it was performative.
Edit: Someone else has provided a link disproving the other commentor.
This was interview done on Ash Wednesday.
It’s definitely performative if that’s the case.
Carefully crafted to show off how good of a believer he is... The bible also has some words about people like that
"If the promise of eternal life is the only thing stopping you from doing evil then you are a piece of shit."
That wouldn't bother me so much if the promise of eternal life actually stopped them from oppressing minorities instead of encouraging it.
Or the threat of eternal torture in hell
That doesn't stop them. They just go do it anyways then confess in the box to make it all go away
“If anyone tries to make me deny my faith, I’ll beat him until he goes blind in one eye.”
Look, people can believe whatever they want, that's their business, but Mark, sweetie, you have to admit that it strains credulity to refer to yourself as an A-lister.
marky has developed an app that lets you pay to pray. as if you couldn’t just pray to your imaginary friend
How is that not a form of blasphemy?
I’m not religious but I would think acting like you are above God or more deserving of people’s prayers is a no no. Then again I’m sure he’s like many others that just prey on desperate (and sometimes stupid) people.
That was my first thought. This is just an ad for him, in the guise of an interview. Also, I looked it up, and that interview took place on the 22nd, but ash Wed was on the 14th. Which means either he hasn't washed his face and probably not his hair, or the dude is putting more on himself. Something tells me he put more on for this interview.
So I was going to say this:
"I have to say, I have never seen an Ash Wednesday cross done that well. Many years of Catholic church and I've never seen it be anything but a blob."
And if the date you shared is accurate, then that says a lot to me. No wonder it looked so off and performative.
Average religious persecution complex.
If you’re convinced to become a “Christian” because an a-lister performs his bizarre victimhood publicly, the you may wanna think a bit more deeply about what exactly convinced you.
A-lister? We are talking about Marky Mark.
I know, right, that "A lister" bit is the biggest blasphemy
He didn’t say anyone was asking him to. He’s js saying he’s not gonna jam it down anyones throat but that he IS christian and won’t deny it.
Most people in my area are catholic and observe all of the traditions. Guess what? No one gives a shit or brags about it.
Celebrities are stupid.
Someone else just pointed out that Ash Wednesday was on the 14th, and this pic is from an interview done on the 22nd. It's more malicious than just stupid
Yes, they are literally questioning him on it now. In the interview??
I mean, I feel like it's fairly obvious that the interviewer specifically asked him his opinions on this subject and that was his response to it, but go off 😂
Marky Mark is an A lister?
His publicist that wrote this wants you to think that, sure.
He's so attention needy
You guys know that Catholics only go around with a cross on our forehead on Ash Wednesday right? This is once a year. Yea it sucks but if you are even somewhat of a practicing Catholic you suck it up once a year.
User deleted comment
6d
Yep. And have you ever seen such a perfect, huge, and visible cross on anyone’s forehead after an Ash Wednesday mass? He clearly made sure he got a TV-ready ash treatment lol
I hate Mark Wahlberg as much as the next guy but it's pretty clear he's saying that he will admit his faith. As in not hide it. As in show up on a talk show on ash Wednesday with his face marked
"I won't deny that I'm a Catholic" not "you can't make me turn my back to god"
I'm not even sure how anyone is getting anything different. lol
Fairytales and folklore persecution complexes won't net you any better roles there Marky Mark.
Didn’t this asshat chase black kids while throwing rocks and racial slurs? Was this before or after he assaulted an Asian person?
I mean I get that Wahlberg is a real piece of shit. I don't see anything wrong with his response. It's upworthy, whatever that way, that framed the question and response that way.
This sub: "He has a persecution complex."
Also this sub: Let's post a year and a half old meme so we have an excuse to drag Wahlberg about 40 year old crimes that he has already faced justice for committing.
This is the guy with the hate crime right
Attempt at proselytizing on TV, how humble of him. This just cries look at me. ‘I’ve done some bad things in the past, now I have been redeemed.’
"I won't be silenced" says one of the biggest stars on a massive news network
Isn't this the same guy who's been arrested for hate crimes multiple times against multiple races?
Religious zealots are literally delusional and have mostly been brainwashed from birth.
With that said, I don't give a flying fuck what religion Marky Mark is.
I don’t get the murdering though..? I think in context he’s saying he wouldnt shove his beliefs down anyone’s throat, but if asked, he wouldn’t deny having beliefs
Was this even on ash Wednesday?
I mean... yeah? They're the same people who shiver at the mention of Chris Pratt
Reddit atheist moment
What?
Why are people mad at Wahlberg about this specific topic?
Good for him I guess. Not a lot of people have the balls to stand up for their personal choices any more, especially when they know the media is going to criticize them.
People in this sub are unhinged. It clearly shows that, either you are not religious, or didn't go away from your small community where religion is accepted.
I can't speak from Hollywood, but from what I've heard they are way more anti Christian than academia, but I can speak for what it is like to be religious and going to higher education.
I'm not super religious, and I don't practice much. Yet, if I had a dollar for each time I got judged for saying "oh yeah I do believe in God" I'd be rich. I'm not even super Christian, I'd be seen as none religious or barely religious by anyone who truly believes, yet often my whole argument, or even just me as a person got completely dismissed because of the fact that I have faith. I learned with time that, I lost opportunity for being open about it and began to never speak of it with stranger even if they are the one to bring in the subject first.
And there is so many story of actor and director who began to have problems when they came out either as religious or conservative in the Hollywood business. Denying it happen is absurd. I'm not saying it is everywhere like that, but a lot of sector, like against entertainment and academia, with a clear bias against Christian.
Again, I'm not defending the guy, seems like he did some bad stuff. And yes, many atrocities has been and are being done by Christian institution (hence why I don't consider myself a "traditional Christian, I don't believe in the power of the church). Yet, places where you lose opportunity and where people ask you to deny your religion does exist. And acting like "are they in the room with us???" Is childish and just dumbing down something that is more complex than that
This guy is a convicted felon btw