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My scaley boi kept knocking over his water bowl by trying to burrow under it, so I made him a man cave. I think he likes it.
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Danger noodle fren
How much of your incentive to do this was just to be able to post snake pictures?
Probably 50% lol. I needed a better hide on the cool side of the enclosure and a way to help prevent spills so this was a two birds one stone kinda deal.
10/10 would upvote again
Absolutely no complaints. Quality snake pictures.
That is definitively true. The snake peeking out picture is awesome.
I think you got a great niche product here. Take it to some reptile shows and sell it online. Nice work!!
Yup, just gotta have the bowls in bulk for it though if you're gonna sell it at a show, if I was looking at something like that at a show and it didn't have the bowl I probably wouldn't consider buying it.
Just take whatever price OP wants to sell the hide at and add the cost of the bowl plus 5-10% to the price for the cost of the bowl and the cost of OP acquiring the bowls.
He hide
What post processing did you do? Id either replace it every few months or do a thick clear coat so it stays clean, otherwise it will get gross and grow bacteria.
Sand, paint, and clear coat. I let it sit for a month for any off gassing and gave it a few good washes.
Awesome. I zoomed in and noticed it was smooth and you even painted it. Very cute, Im glad the snake likes it.
Edit: ohhh thats a bowl on top if it. Sorry im stupid.
Thank you! I had to use a little wood filler too to smooth some of the overhangs, turned out better than expected.
Edit: ohhh thats a bowl on top if it. Sorry im stupid.
I spent a minute clicking back and forth trying to figure out how the water level was that high and not coming out of the other port, before finally realizing it's just the water bowl on top.
It’s so cleanly done it took me a while to see exactly what he did too 😂 I thought it WAS the water bowl at first
Why would bacteria growing on a 3d printed part be different than any other object? Like a stone.
A 3d printed part has more surface area because of all the layer lines, and all those gaps/ridges are great for bacterial growth
just as a stone has lots of crevices and is full of microorganism, thats not a problem.
I think the average rock/stone has less area for bacterial growth than a 3d print of the same shape. Layer lines are basically double sided shelves for bacteria to grow on every .2mms or so. The other thing is that if this is PLA, it's not easy to clean like a stone would be
I think the average rock/stone
you think of river pebbles, not the average rock.
edit: rock meaning any mineral
I'm thinking of the rocky stuff you'd put in one of these enclosures, I think they're called 'cave rocks'
But the "shelves" are very shallow. The argument that 3D printed parts provide a haven for bacteria is, frankly, superficial.
I've printed a lot of gardening related things and I just tend to notice dirt and stuff is really hard to clean out of the layers, and bacteria/whatever gunk up around layer lines on plant pots. Could be wrong, thats just what I see
It's definitely an issue. But my point was that most 3D prints are closed solids, with layer lines on the outside. For a print done at 0.2mm layer height, my printer defaults to a layer width of 0.42mm. So in most cases, we're talking about a gap that's about 0.2mm high, and no more than 0.2mm deep.
You're not going to get bacteria in between the layers, because 1) They're fused and 2) bacteria doesn't handle even PLA printing temperatures.
Spraying it down with a mild solution of bleach will almost certainly annihilate any bacteria in that size of a crack.
The surface of that crack, however, is going to be very rough, and you're right-- it will hold onto dirt fantastically well.
And as has been pointed out-- the OP sealed the outer surface of the print as well, rending most of the discussion moot.
It can get between the layers. If it splits and is humid, it could start growing mold on the inside. It's also harder to clean, you can just wipe a stone down if it gets filthy. It isn't a huge concern here because it isn't in direct contact with the water, and OP did seal it, so it's fine.
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There is more to it than just texture. Wood, for example, is used for cutting boards because it is naturally resistant to bacteria growth because of cellulose. Other plastic surfaces might have rough pitting from knives, like a plastic cutting board, but that plastic surface is otherwise homogenous due to the process of casting from a mold. If you look at a plastic cutting board with a microscope, you can see the pitting, but otherwise there is nowhere for bacteria to enter and fester.
I have something for you to chew on. Is the "myth" annoying because it is untrue, or is it annoying because it means you can't 3D print anything you want without post-processing? Have you done a side-by-side bacteria culture on a 3D printed food bowl or cutting board compared to an injection molded or heatformed counterpart? Have you looked with a microscope at any 3D print? If you haven't, I'd call your dismissal of the "myth" nothing more than a conjecture of convenience.
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I never refuted the existence of a plastic cutting board. I was saying that they were better because they are made in a way that is homogenous. Again, it is not about them being course, it is not about the texture. It is about that, if you cut them up, the ones you bought from Ikea are all one piece. FDM prints are not unless they are melted together in post. Texture is not important. Internal composition is important.
Both of your examples are talking about the ability to clean a print. They're not comparing growth rates, they're not side-by-sides, they're just claiming that the surface of a print can be wiped down reasonably well. Obviously if bacteria ends up on a surface, that surface can be cleaned. That does not mean that there is less growth, and it does not look at prints over time, and it does not look at prints internally over time.
The general consensus is that 3D prints can be food safe, barring nozzle contaminants, once. They can't run through the dishwasher due to heat, but the surface can be wiped to some degree. Sure.
I would like to point out that THIS print is for a snake, which means it will sit near an animal in conditions that might break it down faster than if it sat in a shelf. More bacteria would grow, it would have time to grow. OP sealed his, but nothing you have posted suggests that bacteria doesn't grow faster on prints than homogenous plastic material, or what the effects are on prints that are anything but freshly printed. They literally don't address the thing I was saying at all. Your second article even suggests coating prints to maintain food safety.
Nobody cares about sounding smart on the internet. I'd rather just not get food poisoning from eating from a 3D printed container or utensil, or having a pet get a bacteria infection. Safety is the point, not posturing, and that's why you don't get it and it seems annoying to you.
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Water does not have to enter something for bacteria to penetrate walls... Considering you are cherry picking tiny parts of my responses and then posting sources that don't actually address what I am referencing, I feel like your responses are not in good faith and I likely could not provide anything that would convince you of anything.
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GIVE IT BACK ITS LEGS
Do you have the STL somewhere?
Edit: also aren’t you worried it might still knock the bowl over and get strapped between the edge of the print and the bowl or something?
I haven’t posted an STL anywhere as of yet, but I will make an update if I do.
The top of the stand has a lip that allows the bowl to fit snug and keep from shifting, so that shouldn’t be of too much concern. He hasn’t had any issues getting in and out of the stand so far but I will definitely keep an eye out for any problems.
I await eagerly for an update with the STL. Also, how big is your snake? I have a BP too and she's pushing close to 5ft and am curious if she'll fit or if I'd need to scale it up
My BP is a 2 year old male at about 3 feet in length and roughly 1.5” in diameter. I don’t think he will grow out of it, but for a 5 foot snake I’m worried it might be a tad small.
This project took up the majority of my build plate (300x300mm) so it would have to be expanded vertically to keep it in one piece.
Snakes are basically one long muscle, that ball python should be plenty strong to not get stuck even with the bowl full of water.
Idk what shape your snake is but you can do something with this pretty easy: https://filetransfer.io/data-package/EGHqbLv5#link
This is awesome, and genius! Would love to print one! Link to stl?
God I’m sacred of snake but that’s really nice !
Snak appruff
Wow this is really cool and novel.
Love him
very cute
That looks actually really aŵesome
Well done sir!
Oh hey, that's clever. The bowl rests on the lip of the print, and Snek has a little room under the bowl, so he's got more space now, too.
Nicely done.
That’s adorable. Give snoot boop for us
Last image: “bro, ever heard of knocking?”
Culebra cubby 🫶🏾
You need to repost on wholesome meme
Really great work OP. Matching the contour of the bowl must have been a challenge.
It actually wasn’t too bad, I took a picture of the bottom of the bowl with a tape measure beside it, imported the image into SolidWorks, then traced the image to create the extrusions.
My only challenge was having it mirrored the opposite way when I traced it… figured that out after the first print, had to flip the sketch and re-print.
That's awesome!
I have a Hognose and a False Water Cobra that would love this.
What did you use to design this?
I use SolidWorks for my designs at the moment.
This is a really cool idea
Really cool design! Can we see the Snake?
boop!
To me that is a nope rope.
This is awesome. Do you have a link to a file download?
I printed my hognose an igloo, and he only used it once :(
I love ball pythons!
Epic! I need one of these!
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Read the title, it's a stand FOR the water bowl. Not a printed bowl
I’m sorry. Wasn’t fully awake yet and have a lot going on at the moment. Trying to learn a bit about 3D printing as a distraction but I guess my head is too full for it rn.
Plastic 😋🤤