I’m moving to Ohio from the Northeast in a few months. My s/o is concerned because all they hear about is bad things happening in ohio.
Can someone help me give some opinions from locals? Thanks in advance!!
I've only been here for a year and half so I'm not exactly a local yet. Moved from NJ
I guess it depends on where you move to. I'm near Akron and I haven't noticed anything particularly bad happening here.
The politics here kind of suck, depending on your own political persuasion. I'm a lib, so I suffer about that, but there are signs of life.
But other than that it's pretty pleasant. I don't regret moving here at all.
What is your s/o specifically concerned about?
eta: I will say that it's damn hard finding a decent bagel though. Though I recently discovered Davis Deli and Bakery and their bagels are pretty good and their bakery and sandwiches are great.
Re: bagels, hop on I-77 N or route 8 and head to the Heights: Bialy's is on Warrensville Center Road. Way back when they would be open in the wee hours when they made the bagels. I'd stop there on my way to the Amtrak station (trains out of CLE are all in the small hours) to take a few on the train.
Nubeigel in the Cedar-Lee neighborhood of Cleveland Heights is a newcomer and excellent; it is kosher so closed on Saturdays and Jewish holidays. I particularly appreciate the poppy seeds covering the entire bagel. Poppy, sesame, or plain are my preferences. Good shmears, too.
Agree wholeheartedly. Its been tough here politically, but the state voting to enshrine abortion rights and legalize recreational cannabis gave me hope! I mean, we really are a purple state (leaning blue if enough vote!!) We just have a heavily gerrymandered electorate and a corrupt statehouse trying to dismantle the will of the people at every turn.
Where in NJ, just curious? I’ve worked with a lot of Jersey folks so I have developed an appreciation and understanding of the ol’ Garden State.
West Orange, which is about 20 miles west of Manhattan. Grew up in NY but lived in NJ for the last 35 years or so.
Oh yeah, I know a bit about Essex! Yeah, I understand that you’d have a hard time finding good bagels and like-minded liberals in Akron but I’d bet you could find both in Cleveland. I’m from Cincinnati myself. :)
Yo, NJ & NY represent! Lived my first half on Atlantic city, 2nd half in NYC and now trying to import Taylor Pork Roll out here!
I moved here from Michigan. And if you're able to choose the part of Ohio, I heavily favor the south and east, though they have their drawbacks. I'm responding here because Athens, Ohio does have a decent bagel. This area has noticeably shorter winters and gloriously beautiful springs with redbuds in every ditch.
When friends send you Zabar's bagels and they taste like the best bagels ever, you know the bagel sitch in Ohio is pretty dire.
Cleveland Bagel Co. on Detroit (or Carnegie).
Thank you! I’m gonna miss bagels i guess 😭😂. But all these opinions help a lot!
I think they’re concerned because we’re coming from Maine where basically nothing happens to close to cleveland. Anxiety can get the best of them sometimes so locals or people who have moved there giving opinions will hopefully improve their views!!
What area? I'm in Toledo and I like it here. Definitely depends on what you make of it. Every place sucks if you don't get out and do things.
Moved to Ohio from Los Angeles. Have had no issues and it’s quite nice. There’s so much beautiful scenery and really great outdoor places to explore. Like the person said above, stay away from associating with bad people and you’ll be fine.
Depends on where you go. Lived here my whole life in Cincinnati/Dayton area and it’s been great
Ohio is actually quite chill. There are bad things happening everywhere.
I'm an Ohio native and have lived in multiple areas of the state. I've also lived in other states and have ultimately ended up back here. No location is perfect, but my feeling is it is what you make of it. And don't believe all the garbage you read online. I've lived in my current place for over 15 years, and I love it here. It's a mixed bag of a state when it comes to politics, but overall, the folks that live here are nice. No place is crime free unless you're living off the grid somewhere. There are some fantastic state parks, amusement parks, nice sized cities, professional sports teams, etc. Lots of quaint towns, too.
You are completely accurate. And sound like an optimistic person - not the norm for people in the Ohio subreddit who like to bash on the state! Thank you!
Well, the media tends to only report the bad things, so there’s that. It’s nice here, and if you’re not involved in the street pharmacy game, then there’s a pretty good chance nothing is going to happen to you.
My husband and I have lived in 4 states together now (CA, AZ, CO, OH) and we’ve lived in some pretty desirable cities. We’ve been in the burbs of Cleveland for 3 years now and I would be honestly devastated if we had to leave where before I was very much ready to pack our bags and go somewhere new. Part of it may be age/place in life we are at (early 30s with a toddler). Our parks are incredible. It’s such a beautiful state. I have made more friends here than anywhere else. We have fresh water which will just continue to become more important. I’m super proud our state pushed back on the abortion bans. Lots of great things in OH. I truly don’t get why our state is the butt of so many jokes but whatever if it keeps the cost of living reasonable hah
Ohio is not bad. It’s pretty darn good!
In NE Ohio we have the rock n roll hall of fame and the football Hall of fame. You can’t find those anywhere else in the world. Cleveland has been known for its great food scene and theater for years. There is also a beautiful National park in the Cuyahoga valley.
Columbus in central OH is one of the fastest growing cities in America. I like to think it’s because it’s so awesome. Dayton has a wonderful aeronautical museum. It is truly first in class.
Cincinnati is right on the powerful Ohio river and I’m told the city is a gem with its museums and tall stacks festival.
There aren’t many states with more pro sports teams.
If the rural scene is more your style, Ohio is definitely a big part of the bread basket of America. I grew up in a fairly rural area. Soybean fields and sweet corn feels like home.
SE Ohio is gorgeous. I can’t recommend hiking Hocking Hills enough.
Ohio is also a manufacturing powerhouse. We are the seventh biggest contributor to the national GDP. This adds to the culture of this wonderful state. Unions, skilled trades, blue collar… that’s one of the big things I think of when I think of Ohio.
Good luck with your move and I hope you find Ohio as great as I have.
What area of Ohio you moving to?
Compared to much of the northeast we have a significantly lower cost of living. From home values to tax rates, insurance costs to food it’s less and in some cases much less. Unless you are living paycheck to paycheck (which sucks everywhere) the lower cost of living should equal a little lower financial stress.
Depending on what you are looking for would dictate where you should live because we have a surprisingly diverse state. None of our cities feel like large east coast cities but Cleveland isn’t far off. Columbus has less city and more sprawl but is a financial powerhouse. Cincinnati feels a little more southern but has more of a city vibe than Columbus.You can also go live in the woods in SE Ohio and it would feel like you are in a completely different world.
Bad stuff? Yep, politics are messy, high crime rates in some of the cities, there are economically disadvantaged regions and cities to avoid and there’s lots of flat farmlands.
Lift the hood though and we have lots to offer. Shhhh, don’t tell anyone because eventually they are going to show up here too and mess things up.
All of Ohio - pretty Northern Ohio - friendly Southern Ohio - 'Deliverence' style banjo music. Bit weird. Bit 1930's.
The worst part is the grey skies late fall-winter, it can get bad some years as you may have no sun for days on end. Other than that it’s what you make it, great place to raise a family.
I spent 38 yrs in Ohio and moved to MA in 2021, so here's my thoughts...
The politics are terrible and the state has been run into the ground by both parties. People often think this is abstract concept, but if you're laid off and filing unemployment, trying to go back to school, having a baby, sending kids to public school, driving on the roads in a snowstorm (or any time, really), it matters. All of these have played out for me, my partner, or close friends, and I can tell you I will pick the MA govt's handling of these and many more things any day of the week over the OH one. I don't know which state you are coming from in the Northeast though - maybe the comparison to RI is less obvious.
On the flipside, if you are making decent money, housing will now be affordable. But also jobs in OH pay less.
Regarding taxes - be prepared for a complicated local income tax system instead of just filing and paying at the state level. You may pay more on that front. However, no more vehicle excise tax.
Lots of good people live in and around the major cities and Midwesterners have a reputation for making friends fast. I miss the people more than anything.
Also, Cleveland and Columbus have great restaurant and bar scenes, and I'm saying this from having been to plenty of places in major coastal cities.
So +10 for people and food
On the seafood side, I recommend going for the walleye and perch over saltwater varieties.
Snow removal is handled locally and is great/horrible depending upon the community. I was a rideshare driver through two winters and you could tell when you crossed from a well funded maintenance community to one stretching their budget. Overall, the commercial and industrial areas are kept clear in a timely manner. Inside Cleveland or Akron residential areas, it could be days or up to two weeks to see a plow.
The right 5 miles can also make a huge difference in the amount of snowfall you receive if you're north of Akron, towards Cleveland. Lake effect snow is a big thing.
Exactly this. I grew up in the suburbs to the south of Cleveland and the city limits lines were always made obvious in the winter.
Good callout too of the snow belt. For the OP, Cleveland itself and many of the communities to the east (known as the East Side) and up the shoreline towards Buffalo are the worst.
Boston is a very cold city, literally and figuratively. Massholes are not generally warm people.
Very true.
OP should prepare for random Midwesterners to tell them their life story (their pending divorce, their gut issues, their sexual preferences), and then inviting them to a holiday gathering with their families, all within 1 week of meeting each other.
As others said, the bad stuff is just what sells no matter the place.
I’ve lived in Ohio nearly my whole life, with the exception of some college years in Kansas and Northern Virginia. In a vacuum, I prefer VA for the mountains and general vibes of the area I was in, but I had a new nephew after I graduated, which outweighed any other benefits of VA. I don’t regret my choice, and there is plenty to love in Ohio.
I’ve settled in Akron, which has plenty to do in town, lots of parks and natural beauty around, with Cleveland and everything that comes with it a short drive away.
The politicians suck, but at least the general population is starting to stand up to them lately.
We moved from Florida but I work remote for a large software company out of Boston.
You’ll love the cost of living here, everything is cheaper than New England especially if you keep your Northeast salary. It’s like playing the game on easy mode. We have 5 bedrooms for $500,000. In Florida that bought a 3BR townhome, in nicer parts of Mass? A condo. I finally can afford square footage and a nice 1/2 acre backyard for the kiddos and dog.
The weather is basically the same as the Northeast. Cleveland gets a lot of snow, Cincy hardly any. More than cold or snowy, it’s just gray… a lot. But New England is that way too so you’re used to it.
The politics are worse on average, but as you’re a married, cishet couple — that’s generally irrelevant. You’re not high on the GOP shit list. Abortion and recreational weed are legal here.
Ohio is a fairly large state compared to the New England corridor sized states, so city specific “vibes” and activities vary, by season too — Cleveland is obviously distinct from Cbus and Cincy. Winters are a lot quieter I find, in the spring/summer/fall you’ll find fun festivals and activities every weekend.
What “bad things” beyond our idiots in the statehouse? I’m not sure.
Ohio is great. It's turned more trumpy then id like but it's great here .
I’m from Florida I moved here almost 2 and a half years ago. It’s been AMAZING and I’ve never felt safer where I live. I go to places with my kids all day every day. When kids was in Florida human trafficking is so big and kidnapping in Melbourne FL, I feel at peace in Ohio. Unlike Florida I was scared to leave my house. I also couldn’t drive in Florida but the traffic is nothing compared in Ohio so now I drive. I can honestly say I don’t want to ever leave Ohio.
ETA: I was born in Ohio so o lived here as a kid, but moved when I was 4 and was in Florida till I was 23. So I consider myself a Florida local but I LOVE Ohio so much this is home.
I moved here from NC and I absolutely love it here! Will never move back south as long as I live.
The only big negative is politics being so corrupt and I think a lot of food is super bland around here.
Ohio is a great place to raise kids as long as your somewhere between the suburbs to rural areas. The insanity of the world disappears in these smaller communities.
Just the other day I stopped and bought lemonade from a kid selling it in his front yard to earn money to pay for his football 🏈 gear. That could be a Normal Rockwell painting.
A couple years ago I moved further out towards the country (30-minutes from a large city). There are farms, horses, dark sky’s at night and wildlife everywhere.
You can find nice developments with beautiful homes each having an acre or more of land that are reasonably priced. You’ll know your neighbors, and everyone looks out for each other.
Again, it’s a great place to raise a family.
Live within 10 minutes drive of a Target or Costco if you’re not a conservative Bible thumper.
That applies to most states but especially in the Midwest.
My neighbors are pharmacists, software engineers and design engines for GE aerospace. They’re not the Marjorie Taylor Greene crowd, generally.
Away from the large cities Ohio is mostly conservative as is the case in rural areas across the nation.
The HATE really needs to STOP. Out here we get along with each other.
Rural conservative people get along with each other because they’re like minded. Same churches. Same childhoods. Same SES. Same religion.
In the cities and suburbs you gotta coexist with people who aren’t like you — and you don’t have 40 acres to yourself, you have 1 or 1/2 or none.
I’m a Jew from New England. Next door I got a mom with a trans child. Across the street they’re Indian and on the other side it’s a family from Tokyo. It’s diversity. It forces coexistence and tolerance of others.
In the sticks there’s a lot less of that element. So tolerance and understanding isn’t as much a thing because it doesn’t need to be. “We all love Christmas and Jesus and this political party, and we’re not gay!”
If you ask me, the rural places have more to learn from the suburbs than the other way around.
You don’t sound very tolerant.
You need to visit the county because you sound completely misinformed.
While most of my neighbors are conservatives, not all by a long shot. You can tell around election time by the signs in their yards. Now I doubt they’re Socialist, Marxists, or Communist but that’s a good thing. They’re just liberals.
You’re right though, the culture out here is traditional, and that’s a good thing. It means there’s diversity of thought.
That’s one thing about the LEFT. They don’t tolerate diversity of thought. They attack anyone who thinks differently. It would be better if they sought to understand.
I mean you let me know when the RIGHT embraces the black, gay, Jewish drag queens I saw at pride last week.
They do not. You’re fine if you’re Christian and cishet. Don’t try to paint the right as some tolerant “big tent” that it has never been.
It’s like saying “Apple products and BMWs are cheap.” You can say it, but it’s not true.
You don’t sound very tolerant. Sounds like you’re harboring a lot of hate for conservatives and Christians. God only knows what you think of Muslims.
HATE is poison. It’s easy to caught up in it. The MSM and much of social media pump HATE 24x7. Once you dehumanize someone, you can do anything to them.
Ohio is a great place with lots of things to do Columbus has a lot of diversity, music and great restaurants. I live in Dayton and it’s a great place to live it has a small town feel. If you look towards the negative you’ll find it. I have lived here a lot of my life and I’m very happy with it!
I moved to Columbus after living in Denver most of my life. It was a great decision for me.
I've lived in NYC, Seattle, San Francisco, and now reside in Toledo, Ohio. There are a lot of amenities you may not be used to if you're coming from these larger cities. While Ohio may not have the same abundance of upscale gyms, shopping centers, and extraordinarily nice cafes, it does have its own charm and offerings.
You might not find social hubs quite as hip as Williamsburg or areas with the same level of cultural richness, but there are still great places to experience art, dining, and fashion. The dining scene can be good, though it might not consistently reach the top tier you're accustomed to.
On the plus side, the nature here is beautiful. The metro parks system has lovely trails and offers a great escape into nature. However, it's worth noting that there is quite a bit of poverty, and the median income is generally lower compared to the bigger cities. The weather is another consideration; it gets quite cold, and it rains in the summer.
Overall, Ohio has its unique benefits and challenges, and it largely depends on what you're looking for in a new place to live
Where in Ohio, and from which area? We have three great major metros and lots of lovely smaller towns, villages, and cities.
I’ve lived here almost my entire life (34F) and I actually work in journalism, so I’ve digested a lot of news articles about the good, the bad, and the ugly sides of the state. Ohio has some of the same problems any other place might have, and many people working to make life better: Drug addiction, poverty, corruption, gun violence, and human cruelty are something I think you’d find in any state. People are generally friendly, helpful, and curious here. We enjoy our waterways, roller coasters, food and beer scenes, live music venues, and beautiful parks such as Cuyahoga Valley National Park and Hocking Hills, as well as the newly-designated World Heritage Site with amazing Hopewell earthworks built by indigenous people. You can find almost everything, from Amish country to lake life to farmland to the big city to the Appalachian foothills. We have major research universities and hospitals like OSU, University of Cincinnati, and Cleveland Clinic, and also some really kick-ass small liberal arts colleges that are known nationally such as Oberlin, Kenyon, and Wittenberg. Lots of good college towns and cities in Ohio.
People find Ohio to be an affordable option to raise a family, too. We do have some good schools. Make sure you’ve got a car though, as we don’t have a super strong public transit system especially city-to-city.
Enjoy that extra money in your pocket.
No
Is Ohio that bad? Yes and no. Depends on where you live. Ohio has a large variety of areas that are all quite different. Personally, I live outside of Cleveland and this area has everything that I enjoy doing. Nowhere else comes close.
Hearing "bad things about Ohio" is nebulous. Where in Ohio are you moving? I've lived in Ohio my entire life (but have travelled alot) and guess what? It's the shit as anywhere else, just different scenery.
The politics of Ohio leaves a lot to be desired, but as the Baby-Boomers die off, and more people from the Northeast move here, that will all level out back to being a purple state at some point in the near future.
Have you ever tried looking for the good things, instead of going off things you hear?
Yes. That’s what this post is for. I can’t physically look for the good things right now so i’m asking for the good or bad from other’s perspective. Thank you though!
Ohio is awesome. Lived here my whole life. This sub used to be awesome, but the radicals on the right and left have taken it over and ruined it. The people are great, the outdoors are great, the amenities are incredible, the cost of living is terrific, what more can I say? If you are coming to the Cleveland area, I'd be happy to welcome you personally. Dinner on me!
Not arguing against it, but it's ironic that so many people in these comments are saying "depends on where you live" and then listing where they're at, that basically the whole state is covered 😂. Except Columbus, apparently. Truly though OP, what your s/o has heard is probably the usual stuff people say about Cleveland, that broadly used to be true but isn't really anymore. Honestly, Ohioans themselves also talk that way about the other regions of the state but they'll defend their town against the slander. There's obviously going to be highs and lows everywhere, but I think you'll like it here. Don't know if you're coming from urban, suburban, or rural areas, but you'll be able to find all of those vibes pretty close to almost any part of the state you land in. Good luck!
Outside of the constant political fights. And let's face it, Reddit is notoriously left, it's a lovely state.
I live down near Hocking Hills. Small town. Moved here from Columbus a year ago.
Times are tight but we are doing ok. Money goes much further here than other places.
I have a 3 bedroom home on 3 acres. And people, in person, are really kind.
Don't judge Ohio from online feedback only.
Lived here most of my life, Ohio is a diverse geographical state, and if you are near one of the main cities there is almost always stuff to do. We get shit on for being a boring place to live but we have a lot of sports teams, great breweries, multiple amusement parks, great nature parks and more all over the state. Honestly the biggest problem for me is the politics but lately the citizens have been taking things into our own hands and passing laws, such as legal Marijuana, protecting abortion, and now we are hoping to vote against gerrymandering (i think) in November. Not to mention if we were a bad state, i dont think we would be one of the most populous states in the Union.
It's a purple state painted red by republican gerrymandering in recent years. Ohio has a larger population than most realize, with more major cities than many states have. There are various universities scattered across the state, lending to diversity, but the rural areas are very rural, especially along border states. There are extremes on "both sides" politically and this varies depending where you are. It's diverse but geographically spread out compared to the Northeast US.
I’m a blue dot in rural, very red Ohio. That part sucks to the maximum. These people are truly deranged. I love living in the country and the cost of living is reasonable. I love being an hour away from Columbus. I love that I have a job making a decent wage that I can support myself. It’s a trade off. If I moved to a blue state my cost of living would go up.
No it's just a boring place that is constantly held back by gerrymandering, old ideas and bad leadership.
Pretty much this. Public transportation could be great, but sucks. You’ll have to drive everywhere. Parking is a pain in the cities. Aggressive drivers.
Kroger owns the state. They price gouge. Has been out of control since the pandemic.
Politically, it’s a mix in the cities. 10 min outside the cities and Trump flags are everywhere.
Interestingly, Kroger doesn’t even exist in the most populated part of the state (NE), they pulled out in the 80s and haven’t come back.
there are cheap rents if you don't mind country living food's reasonable and utilities aren't too crazy
What part of ohio
To start, do you have a location you are looking at settling? I lived in Ohio most of my life having lived in Oregon Michigan and West Virginia for several years due to work relocations but I always came back. Each one of those states has their pluses and minuses. But I always felt Ohio was overall a better fit for me. Currently, I reside in south central Ohio and it’s a little more country here. Taxes are ok, much better than NJ. Where I live crime has little impact on my life, Columbus is a fun and vibrant place, outdoor activities are pretty good(not as good as Oregon) as I’m an avid mt and gravel bike rider, winters are not horrible and the weather changes quickly. After living in Oregon & Michigan, housing cost is a positive. Traveling to and from other places, be it airport or highway is no issue. State universities are pretty good, if you have kids looking to go onto higher ed. In my “Quality of Life Scorecard, I’d give Ohio a solid 8.
Since there’s a lot of political talk in response to your question. To sum it up, in my biased and uneducated opinion; Ohio is a microcosm of the US. In other words, it’s pretty purple as a whole. Which truly speaks to the value of the people here, when there’s so much division. It’s either really hard to stand up for what you believe in, or really easy nowadays. But we do that here. As many examples for how screwed up our politics currently are, there seems to be a willingness to try and change things for the better moving forward. Or maybe we’re at just at rock bottom idk
Where in Ohio. Like the other 49 states, there are a few parts of Ohio that I’d never visit and a whole lot of parts I love and am happy to call home.
Yes. Ohio’s only redeeming quality is the low-cost-of-living.
If I were ever able to move out of Ohio you couldn’t pay me enough to move back.
That would be Indiana and Kentucky, at this point.
It’s rapidly shifting here. Houses that were $125,000 at the bottom in 2009 are $650,000 today.
Ohio, particularly Cbus is rapidly the next North Carolina as the research triangle has priced people out. But even in Cincy we’re seeing what used to be farms and old factories become software startups.
That just means the only thing Ohio had going for it is gone.
Really depends on where you live. Life in the bigger cities is fine. Outside of that is generally not great unless you are a bigot, racist, and conservative Christian
Depends where you live, im in cincinnati, born and raised here. Crime is out of control, it's always been kind of bad but seems it's become worse lately, could be the current state of inflation. Typically though, nothing really happens out towards the smaller/rural areas. We do have alot of stuff to do, our Zoo is cool, the Aquarium, alot of cool parks, cool architecture, there's always festivals and stuff going on, good local food, Kings Island.
I wouldn’t park my car overnight downtown, but if they’re an affluent couple with northeastern salaries, you know they’ll end up in Montgomery or Mason or Madeira anyway where you can leave your doors unlocked all day.
I'm on the border of Mt. Airy and Colerain. Between those two neighborhoods and North College Hill, shit is insane. Can't even keep a mailman because they've been held up 5 times in two months.
West side is rough. East side is sleepy.
It's not. If you go looking for problems with any state you'll find something. Anything that happens here is less than or equal to most places around the country.
It's the narrative of Ohio being a joke for some reason (people don't really know, yet they perpetuate the narrative) that gives it a little more attention than most other states.
There's a lot of places to see and explore since it's not just farmland
Depends on where you move to and what they're concerned about.
Politically it’s not great depending on your views but that depends on where you are going (I’m in Akron, which aligns with my views. Where I grew up didn’t lol). It’s fine otherwise unless you can’t handle bipolar weather.
FYI - Cleveland's Playhouse Square is the second-largest theater district in the nation, second only to Lincoln Center in NYC
I did the same four years ago and I can say Ohio not as bad as I thought it would be. Biggest negative is the lack of mountains
Ohio is at least three different states, so it depends which you're moving to. Cleveland, Cincinnati, or Columbus?
Columbus is a pretty nice.
It's way better than anything on the east coast. No cringey accents either.
I have that cringey accent lol
Nice! They'll love you regardless
Just cringey people,
Edit/ caring about others accents is terrible.
Moved from Jersey a few years back and now I'm moving back to Jersey.
Low cost of living and nature are the only nice things I have to say about my time in Ohio.
The ghouls at the state house made the state uninhabitable for me.
Citizens pass a ballot initiative for pot and abortion... state leg says fuck you. People clearly implicated in gov corruption act like holy rollers and get to continue to run a racket. The state hands money, my tax dollars, to religious institutions that don't see me as human, and then those same institutions lobby to have me barred from public places.
The people in this sub are not a representation of this state because the people on this sub are not a bunch mouth breathing assholes.
The ghouls at the state house made the state uninhabitable for me.
How
No, stay where you are
Like every other state, there are issues in the bigger cities, but for the most part, it's great.
If you're in a blue state I recommend that you stay where you are.
On paper, Ohio is considered purple.
In reality, Rethugs have gamed the system so that it is effectively red or reddening. DeWine is slightly more sane than most of his Rethuglican peers, but he's still a Rethuglican.
In a state that passed abortion and recreational weed by 15 points last November, I’d say we’re stable, not reddening.
My NextDoor boomers crapped their pants becuase they thought it was reddening. They thought wrong. Cincinnati, the most conservative of the 3 C’s, has the first dem as a rep in 30 years.
I’m moving from New Hampshire to OH. Some won’t appreciate this, but nature here doesn’t hold a candle to New England (except hocking hills area). The highest point is Campbell hill which is 1500ft ASL with a prominence of only 639ft AGL.
At least the snow isn’t as bad, there’s a lot more people my age and things to do.
*OP you can tell by the downvotes that I struck a nerve. No, driving an hour to find the only hills, trees, and man-made groomed state parks does not *remotely hold a candle to the White Mountains, Green Mountains, or Katahdin.
I say this to OP as another New England native who was stationed for years in the Midwest, and has lived in Ohio: if forests, the ocean, lakes, and mountains are important to you, you will be disappointed.
Plot twist: this was an elaborate way to see what nice areas we should visit when we move here. Thanks!
You're off your rocker, mate. Explore a little. Like NH is some great beauty lol yeah we get it, western Ohio has corn fields oh no!! The rest of the state is beautiful.
I’ve been all over the state, including the prettier parts. They’re nice, and I don’t mean to say they aren’t, but if OP as a New Englander is used to being able to drive from the beach to hike a 4000 foot mountain, they may be disappointed.
Ohio- we don't have mountains therefore there is no natural beauty. Logic. Lol
That’s an oversimplification. Ohio has no mountains or oceans, fewer natural lakes (except Erie) or rivers. Much of the state is commercially farmed or an urban sprawl. The nicer areas are maintained by man, so there is little true nature left there. This is an objective truth.
If these things are important to OP, as they are to many New Englanders, they will be disappointed.
Discounting lake Erie.
Few rivers!? Are you high!?
The western half of the state is farmed heavy but most of the Eastern half is wooded hill lands.
Maintained by man!? You've clearly NOT explored as much as you think you have. Maybe get out of your car and throw on a backpack.
You just sound bitter and clueless. Might be YOUR objective truth but it's not mine.
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Okay. Go ahead and hike a 4000 footer, go to the beach, and sit by the lake, all in Ohio in the same day.
No one said that. But the inability to do that does not equate to no natural beauty.
Also, new Hampshire beaches... Like come on. Lol
What about them? Have you ever been to New England or are you just bullshitting at this point?
You have 18 miles of shoreline. Lmao we have 320!! Oh no... Our great lake isn't The Ocean! Oh noooo! Lol damn and we have bigger waves. The only thing you can hold your nose in the air about is mountains and you can keep em. Lolol
Your math is off…New England has way more shoreline.
Yes. We have mountains, the ocean, abundant trees, fresh lakes and rivers that…those are all considered part of what makes nature beautiful.
Wait, the highest elevation in the state is only 639ft AGL?
There’s also the Cuyahoga National Park! Mohican is another really nice outdoorsy area. Lake Erie can be nice if you go to the right spots, Kelly’s Island and Put in Bay are fun.
Former OH State Parks Employee here: there’s a lot of hidden gems of state and even national park here. Shawnee is unbelievable, Hueston Woods is a gorgeous park in SW Ohio, up near Columbus there’s some great forests and NW Ohio has Ottawa NWR which is an awesome place. There’s lots of cool stuff here!
There's this from 2 years ago, it has only grown since by 700 acres of reservations with trails, etc.
You’re talking about maintained “recreation areas,” which are not comparable to a national forest or mountain chain.
Sure, all 25,000 Acres are just recreation areas. Been in this area my whole life and have travelled a lot as well, hiking, camping, sight-seeing, etc.. The Metropark a fantastic system. Don't know why your so adamant that it's not good. But I'll respect your opinion, that's fine.
It’s not that they aren’t good. I do enjoy them and they are lovely.
Maybe I was too aggressive and demeaning with my description…but as a New Englander transplanted into OH, I miss forests, mountains, and the ocean the most. That’s what I wanted to share with OP.
Wow. Dishonest woman indeed. Changed your whole post. Lol
Downvotes incoming from people who think a jungle gym in a field is comparable to the Appalachian Mountains 👍
Ohio sucks. I'm glad I got out while the getting was good.
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If she’s from New England, gray skies in the winter are nothing new. Southern California it is not.
Tell your friend to get a Threads account. Ohio is trending on Threads right now, and there's a lot of positivity! You can log in with your Insta credentials.
Nice try, Zuck. No one uses threads.
Just like "no one watches women's sports," eh? ROFLMAO
Zuck, stop! The women sport it up good.
Stay away from Threads, dude. It's not your kind of place. You belong here, on Reddit.
If you're a right wing trump humpin bible thumper you'll fit right in the rural areas. If you're middle or left closer to the cities might be your best bet. Otherwise it's really no better or worse than anywhere else in the NE (I from upstate like near the canadian border upstate)
the weather blows. everything else is just like everywhere else.
She’s from the Northeast, not Santa Monica. She’s used to this weather.
The weather usually sucks, but our cost of living is decent. We are low on diversity. We have a lot of colleges, but A lot of the politics here are not conducive to encouraging young professionals to stay in this state (especially young women), so a lot of them stay here long enough to get their degrees and leave for other states. Our public schools are alright, I'd say mid tier in general.
Northeast Ohio is hardcore MAGA country (except Cleveland) so I personally avoid that whole area. Franklin County, Hamilton, Butler and maybe parts of Montgomery County are middle of the road-ish and also have plenty of shopping and infrastructure and whatnot. Athens county is southeast, mountains, and kind of a small town liberal oasis, but outside Athens, southeast Ohio you can literally hear the banjos. Rest of the state is corn and cows.
And welcome!
mountains
Where?
Hocking Hills
Nah. Not mountains.
it's literally in the name and this moron can't even get that right
hahahahaha
Hocking Mountain State Park
Lived here my whole life and love it. I’ve traveled enough to see every place is what you make it and Ohio has a lot to offer. Kinda like movies and everything else, don’t listen to the critics, like what you like.