What’s your Bravo take that’s got you walking out like this?

before the glam squads!!

It’s the whole requirement for a story line that makes the shows overproduced and dark. Give us inherently interesting people living their lives! It’s what I loved about the early seasons of NY, Atlanta, and Potomac. 

I agree with this. I keep rewatching rhoa first 4 seasons because the drama is so stupid it's actually funny. Now everything seems so dark and annoying

God season 1 + 2 of the OC are some of my favorites. Honestly I think I watch for nostalgia of what used to be.

Agree! Manufactured drama is not interesting to me! What people consider “boring” reality tv is what I enjoy the most. And look at the OG RHOC housewives, there was still plenty of crazy stuff to keep us hooked.

I miss the drama being rich people problems

💯. I always say that if it was being produced today we’d never ever know the phrase family van. And what a loss that would be

If I have to see one more sound bath healing session….

I miss the old days. I also wish some of the shows would go back to filing during the holidays. I liked seeing them celebrate the holidays and the parties

I've been feeling this way for years!! I miss the documentary style of the first seasons and absolutely hate the stylized edits they do now... a closeup of a high heel exiting a car or the cringey sex-in-the-city strut 🙄

Before the lasered hairlines

YESS!!! Agree completely.

also works flipped! everyone hated Angie K on slc and now they adore her.

My husband & I call it second season syndrome. Both of us always wait until the second season to decide if we actually like someone because they rarely show their true colours during their first.

This is a foundational principle, I think

The podcasts make me feel like I’m expected to have an entire relationship with this show, and I can’t stretch it beyond watching and reddit. I’m already questioning my life choices as I type this.

“Idk I guess we’ll just have to go to bravo tv dot com for more information” - Danny pelligrino

Omg I forgot about those blogs! The glory days of housewives haha

This is the only social media I like to see housewives stuff on, or some jokes on Twitter. It’s exhausting seeing the women post constantly on other platforms and trying to keep up with the off screen drama in real time

Add the blogs to this. If it didn’t happen on camera it didn’t happen. Blissful times

Yes! And like 98% of the podcasters become cringey sellout ass kissers to people on bravo and it’s terrible.

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To add to this, I hate discussing bravo shows and someone says “well on X person’s podcast they said this” and I’m like ??? I don’t listen to podcasts, so I’m going off of what was presented to me.

The only saving grace are slc and Miami for me. The rest are dead. But I think both of them will spiral out too.

I think this is sad but true. These women have been on too long in this format, and any reboot/newbies isn’t organic enough or they are to eager to be reality stars.

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I agree. I feel like everything now is so producer driven. I can’t stand it anymore

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They seem to have a life span of 10-12 seasons then it gets stale. We need new cities and fresh talent

I also don’t like how some fans act towards housewives they don’t like. They build a parasocial relationship and think they can be rude to housewives they don’t like.

Yes omg I could never go because it’s like… meeting the wizard of oz but the wizard is hellaaaa thirsty, I wouldn’t be able to handle the rupture in my escapist world.

It’s like seeing your teacher at the mall or something as a kid, acknowledging the power dynamic outside the usual context is awkward for both parties

Fillers in general. It’s become a trope at this point, where if I see somebody riddled in fillers in real life I’ll joke with my wife that they must be a RHW

I would be more curious which don’t have them.

THIS. Deplatform the bigots but you need toxicity to push the plot on this show. They can't all just be glorified infomercial hosts pushing their vanity projects.

Had to scroll way too far to get to an actually unpopular opinion, and I agree 100%. Monica, Erika, Larsa, Marge and their ilk are the only thing keeping these franchises on life support, largely because they drive viewer engagement.

YESSSSSS EXACTLYYYYYY🙌🙌🙌🙌

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but true af. 🤷🏾‍♀️

And if Bravo actually changed all its programming to reflect these professed ideals and values, then the shows would suck. They’d be as unwatchable as American MAFS

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Come on somebody! If you don't like the shows... don't watch

Literally this.

I see people drag Ramona and OG NY for being racist - fair. Then why also watch VPR that had a cast member pull a knife on a black woman?

Why celebrate Phaedra coming back after she literally made up a rape allegation?

Also, this was something the popculturechat sub discussed sometime back - it's no longer enough to be a good person. You have to perform as a good person so that others know - the FM sub is a great version of clutching pearls over everything. That sub is like a modern day version of the jury in the Salem witch trials

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JAX TAYLOR!!?

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I would have let young Schwartz ruin my life

I have a feeling Jax has not-so-hidden talents. Kristen too, for that matter. Schwartz would be like fucking a jar of mayonnaise.

For some reason, I have full confidence in Jax’s abilities lol

I’m there with you on Schwartz unfortunately

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You don’t know how long I have waited for someone else to come forward. You know other bitches feel the same.

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I’m other bitches.

Edit to say: I find Jax Taylor extremely hot now and then. I know I just made it even worse lol.

lawd have mercy

Yeah same. I’d hate myself after but I’m here for a good time not a long time.

they'd poke u and insult u as aftercare

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Andy is great for Bravo because he takes the blame for so many grievances that are obviously decisions that are outside of his scope.

Andy is to Bravo, similar to what Pat Sajek was to Wheel of Fortune, and who Alex Trabek was to Jeopardy.

Andy is part of the ridiculousness of Bravo, a spoke in the wheel. Who else would play along to cocaine fueled WWHL antics and seriously consider the allegations ranging from RHOA’s Bolo night to smelly vaginas (a la RHOBH). Anyone else, and it wouldn’t feel as organic.

Yeah, I agree—Andy can’t leave. That would actually make me more sad than any single series cancellation.

A new host will be way too “pc”. Andy is the perfect mix of messy and relatively non problematic.

I think the best thing they could do is start giving new shows, that aren’t housewife based (summer house, winter house, new versions of southern charm, the valley type shows) first season reunion with a new host.

Most of them don’t get a first season reunions so putting in a new host wouldn’t be necessarily weird for a new tv show. If it feels organic and meshes well they could keep that host for that show. If it grows to be a bigger audience than expected, ie the valley being a surprise hit, putting in Andy as a host doesn’t necessarily feel weird if they don’t mesh with season 1 host.

That way it gives Andy the OG content he’s already doing, which shows will begin to fade out from (ie vanderpump on pause and no rhonj reunion) so it gives him a chance at doing less unless needed.

It gives people a way to get acquainted to a new host that just originally grew with the network vs Andy completely leaving.

(Sorry I took an edible!)

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Luann exuded class in her mugshot 😊

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every franchise needs a terrible person no matter how much we hate them. larsa tracks and meets the criteria for an absolute menace of a person. 🤷🏾‍♀️

and something in the buttermilk ain’t clean with messy fessy, but hopefully, it plays out soon on all of our screens so we can enjoy the chaos. 👀

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I feel all of this. Yes yes yes.

So juicy!! But I feel like Lisa loves Max a lot and not letting him call Ken his biological dad would hurt lol

Wowowowow. Why did i never consider this

Ohhhh hot take! And cool flair 💁‍♀️

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I’ve always thought this - he looks exactly like him!

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I think there should be one fire and on hire for every season. UNLESS they perfectly mesh well, which is hard and then it should be every other season.

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Same!

You gotta be more specific before we decide if you’re going to jail girl

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True. I don't watch VPR and at first I was impressed with how well she's handling this whole situation and found her very likeable. Now it's like... Do we really need posts about every outfit she wears on LI? Do we really need to praise some probably mediocre sandwich shop to high heaven just because she's involved? Lol. It's not her fault but it's starting to annoy me.

*The unadulterated adoration of ANYONE

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Thank you!!!

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“My life is none of your business!” Did she really say this on a damn reality show and get away with it?

The most career initiative Carl has taken

He 1000% knew he was going to break up with her that day and he was setting her up all summer/trying to activate her

Oh for sure. And Andy isnt going to discourage other cast members from calling the producers when something big is going to happen which is why the reunion response was what it was. I get it. But the producers didn’t just want to “check in” after they wrapped. That’s ridiculous.

A lot of Bravo celebrities having drinking problems once you take away the context of the show.

Early seasons are gold, Below Deck down under is in that pilot season / crazy good phase

The early seasons are gold, the new seasons are complete garbage. This current season is so fake I can’t even watch it. How many times are they going to hire a “surprise” inexperienced person, a fuckboy bosun, and a lecture from Captain Sandy that contradicts her previous three lectures? It’s dead.

Agreed! She was so mean to Tinsley for no real reason.

I agree about Carole. I’m rewatching rhony and tbh I didn’t really like her when she first came on either. She always acted so above it, but it’s like why are you even on here then if you think you’re so much better than this?

Janet Jackson approves✅

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Along with “worm with a mustache” and the dumb ass nicknames for the hated cast that people swear are clever (Scumdevil, Ratchet, Blah Blah, etc etc).

Heather has clearly done a lot of communication practice and/or therapy. I think she’s fantastic and she gives us lifestyle porn. She delivers

I have always said this! I felt crazy when everyone was pissed at Heather. It was just good boundaries. Can you imagine if a coworker came over to scream at you while your kids were sleeping? Goodbye.

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THANK YOU!

This is my favorite sentence ever. “he fuckboyed too hard” is going on my BIL’s gravestone

As someone who went to an all girls school, I’m shocked that people can’t see right through Paige Desorbo’s fine-tuned persona.

Mary is bonkers, contradictory, and delusional. Ideal full timer. She’s the true enigma wrapped in cash or whatever tf Erika Jayne was on about w that tagline

Ally Bally said Katie told her they were in an open relationship, and Katie flat out denied. But this season, Ally has gained the fan’s trust and Katie has admitted to talking to behind Ariana’s back; I think it’s interesting that the open relationship rumor hasn’t been revisited.

The only reason I doubt it, is because Tom would have pulled it out at some point. But there’s too much whispering about their relationship being different off camera for me not to raise an eyebrow.

This is how it feels to say “idk y’all, I don’t think that teeny sandwich is worth that price”