No. I was just told to save, have $50 on me just in case and never get a credit card. I also went without a lot of stuff so as an adult I tend to spend more because I'd rather have things I want than miss out on more. My dad told me I needed to pay off my credit card each month and shamed me for not being in a good financial situation which pissed me off since he didn't teach me any better and is part of the reason I missed out so much in the first place. Mum had no concept of money since her dad paid for everything, but my dad only knew lack and scarcity so would be as cheap as possible and go off at me when I wasn't like that. I once had savings up to $1k but spent most of it going on holidays and haven't gotten back there since. Dad was made redundant from his job when I was 8 and despite his knowledge and skills he only applied for and got jobs in tech support when he could have done other things and had us in a better financial situation instead of fighting with mum about money and taking his stress out on me. I've started reading books about it and doing courses on it so I can get out of the cycle I grew up in and have something better, I just hate that I was taught I could only have a certain amount, I needed to save it in case and basically to miss out on things that I wanted and that other people could have easily. I feel like my parents were punishing me and making me believe i couldn't have more and didn't deserve better because it benefited them. At one point I was the only person in my family with a job and stable income even though it was only $300 per week. mum would pick me up from work and take me to the shops to buy things for dinner and get me to pay for it either asking me or telling me I could, sometimes waiting until we were at the checkout and adding that I could afford it because I was working. No wonder the resentment towards my parents is so high. Mum treated me like a human credit card and dad chose to make life hell and live in stress with mounting bills and maxing out credit cards instead of doing odd jobs to make ends meet. Now he's basically retired and lives off the interest from the money in mum's estate that my brother and I inherit when he dies. I can't really begrudge him that since it's not the core money, he lives simply and mum was mentally unstable so he's had insane stress to deal with since the mid 80s and now dealing with grief and figuring out how to live the rest of his life in peace.

I think some of the funniest parts were where they broke out of it, like sharing flashbacks and showing montages or just funny quips like Justin explaining the math around the asteroid and being like "this is a bunch of stuff none of you can hope to understand" like he himself would even be able to explain it. Or Max saying stuff that sounded dumb but made sense "any sister of Justin's is a sister of mine. You can't tell me that's wrong." I judged the show before I watched it and it's funnier than I thought it would be, hence why I'm nearly finished s rewatch. It's still funny and doesn't get old no matter how many times you see it.

I related to her because of that in the first season.

I hate how she is with Wade. As cringe as it was to see her going after George in season 1, I prefer that to her being another notch in Wade's bedpost like she is in season 2 as far as I've seen. I get she caved and it's been a while since she had sex, but it's like she threw her self respect out the window when she opened the door to let Wade in.

I cried in that scene. I felt Logan's pain and I think she did too which is why she agreed to help him in the first place.

He's been raised to become the family wizard and fix Alex's mistakes, so it's understandable that he's pissed about it since that's what he's come to expect, especially all the awards it's been mentioned he's gotten. He's a high achiever in everything he does and with that comes high expectations. Having said that, he could have been more understanding than he was since Alex saved the entire world from evil, including him, and it's a yearly award so he could've just gotten it another year. I think his pride was hurt because he spends so much of his time living up to expectations and bailing Alex out so he's either expecting praise for meeting expectations, or not getting it because people don't know he's saved something and Alex is less about the thanks and more about what she can do next. Justin has consistently done things to keep himself in good standing, like Crumbs raving about him and expecting good things from him, so I think it's fair that he's mad about Alex getting it, like Max pointed out he's usually the one saving her, but Alex saving the wizarding world because of him being under the influence of evil definitely beats that, like others have said, he's the reason she had to save him and the world in the first place. I think it's just one of the crosses high achievers and those with a lot of expectations put on them need to bear. The times they make mistakes have higher costs attached to them.

Ever since the episode where he uses the wand Justin gave Harper to open Alex's heart to him so she'll take him back after everything that happened at the awards ceremony I've hated him. It's a whole other level of manipulative.

Okay fine, I'll rewatch the series all over again.

I started crushing on him after the episode where he tells Zeke about being a wizard to save their friendships even though he risked everything to do it, but there's also other times when I haven't liked how he acted. The finale was the biggest one even though it ended well, seeing him being a dick to Alex when she'd done something selfless instead of reckless, I really didn't like. The award thing I kinda get since he's spent his entire life cleaning up her mistakes so it would be like seeing everything you've worked for being thrown away because of one good deed someone usually bad did, I'd be pissed off too, but in saying that, she saved the world from evil, including him from being caught up in it, so given it's a yearly award he could've been more understanding about it. I'd say it's probably more to do with changes in writing, especially since he wasn't the only character to change. It's been discussed here before that Theresa in particular got worse in the final season. Jerry wasn't much better I don't think. The only characters who seemed to get better were Harper and Max who got funnier. I still love Justin and overall I think he's a good character and brother, I just don't love or condone everything about him or that he did/does.

I'm nearly finished my rewatch of the series and that bugged me when that episode came up. I laughed when Max said that, not just because it's such a Max thing to say, not even the writers know what happened to the dog.

I hadn't heard that, but now I'm curious to see what happens.

I'm halfway through the final episode for the second time and this has been bugging me. Surely the writers could have come up with something else which is more in line with Justin's character, especially given how the original show ended. I can't imagine him giving up magic for love, unless he was under the influence like with Rosie, but given he was made headmaster, he'd be more likely to use magic and resources to find a way to get around the rule. It feels same but different which is what reboots tend to be like if they're not completely redone like Charmed was, and kinda Sabrina. Maybe they're just going with that storyline for now and might change it like they did with the original series to something that works better and makes more sense to the original series.

What aspects of ADHD did she have? I love and relate to her character, but haven't been diagnosed with ADHD and am curious if I might have it and not realize it.

This all makes a lot of sense. I think only Lilly knew or had an idea why Duncan ended things, until Veronica figured it out. It annoyed me with Duncan how he dealt or didn't deal with things and everyone had to just go with it until he either broke and said something or something happens that reveals what's going on.

Others have mentioned that episode as well, I think I'll need to go back and rewatch it. I just thought it was funny when she dissed them by saying poker had to be hard if they were playing it when she's clearly smarter than all of them.

When Veronica kisses Logan, I just saw it as her being appreciative towards him for saving her when he could've just left her to it, but he tracked her down when no one knew where she was and beat JTTs character up and wouldn't leave her side until she insisted he did. A kiss on the cheek I think, says more of a thank you for saving her life than a simple thank you would have done.

Maybe she did feel more for him or maybe she was just caught up in the moment, I think he always liked her and was just waiting for any kind of signal from her before making his move and that's what the thank you kiss was.

The situations being thrown together also contributes. If there wasn't something already, then there's almost always a moment where you start to view someone differently in different circumstances. It's just a matter of timing I think.

I remember watching parts of it when it first aired and seeing the episode where they kissed and was kinda thrown. When I watched it from the beginning I was surprised given how much of a dick he'd been to her prior to that, but looking back on it, it kinda makes sense when you put the pieces together. You don't see it coming unless you've been paying close attention.

True. I forgot about that. I wasn't as focused on their history and disliked Logan until they got together and he started being an actually decent person.

I forgot they grew up together as well, especially given their parents history, granted that was more the Kane's than the Echolls. I think because the show starts off after everything has happened, it makes me think they've only known each other for the few years prior and not an entire generation before. It could also be that I'm about halfway through season 2 so there's still a lot of things I haven't learned yet.

I'm looking forward to doing a rewatch in future and seeing what else I learn that I missed this time.

Haha!

It would make sense, but from those scenes I got the sense that Veronica kinda just put up with him because he was Lilly's bf and Duncan's bestie. I got the impression that if it weren't for Duncan or Lilly, she wouldn't have hung around him, but I could be wrong. I'm about halfway through season 2 so I'm sure there's much more for me to uncover.

Haha. I've read things saying they don't get together, but then read posts saying they do, but they don't end up together and get the sense it's short lived or something. I'll take whatever at this point.

I had 3 replies all telling me to get off reddit to avoid spoilers and just keep watching, so I figured I'd just reply to the post instead of individually.

It made a bit more sense in the flash backs where she's dealing with stuff with her mum and George isn't there but Lavon is, I get how they got there, I just didn't buy them being a couple. The storyline worked, the actors playing it didn't.

Haha, it's all good. I've been looking for spoilers so I've got something to look forward to, plus anyone using a platform like this, or the Internet in general when looking up an old show has to expect things will get spoiled.

AB as a single lady, at least from what I've seen, is what would have made Zoe an even better character. She was great in season 1 when she wasn't focused on George. She made an effort, but mostly just did her own thing and her friendship with AB was great. I don't know if that makes sense, it was just nice to see AB becoming an independent woman and making a life for herself and inspiring others to do the same especially after how her marriage ended and living with that in a small town. She's got the small town spirit, but the sass of Zoe and confidence of Lemon.

Omg! That was him?! It's just hit me now.