Gibson are unironically evil, and the fact that people still support them and shower them with money is the biggest jerk of all.

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I worked for Mesa/Boogie when they were bought by them. I met the whole Gibson executive team and they’re something out of a guitar circlejerk poster’s fever dream. The strongest blues lawyer vibes imaginable. 

Uh, sir.... This is a circle jerk. You gonna put your hand on my dick or are you just gonna be angry the whole time?

Having been around for the Kramer and Steinberger and even the Trace Elliot acquisitions I don't thing it's malice as much as it is incompetence.

Kramer was bought in 1997, which was kind of like buying a BlockBuster Video franchise in 2010. The company was well past being relevant at that point in time.

Steinberger I feel like they wanted to try some of their tech on their guitars and the reception didn't go well. For all we harangue Gibson about being dinosaurs the fact remains that they're at their absolute worst when they try and do anything but make instruments as close as they did in 1960.

Keep in mind in the early 2000's you could buy a used top-of-the-line Steinberger used for a few hundred. I remember going into Guitar Center and they were so unwanted there was a stack of three leaning in a corner because they couldn't hang them up and didn't care about them enough to put them on a stand.

Trace might be the biggest example of both. Bass amp tech changed really fast after Gibson bought. People wanted lighter and more compact. Trace gear was always ungodly heavy and massive. It sounded great, but consumers had plenty of other options that didn't break their backs or make them have to own a station wagon.

They did spin off the tube amps into the Goldtone series but when they did that the only market for anything new amp-wise was being chewed up by the Mesa Rectifiers. They didn't know how to sell them though and those amps, despite sounding amazing, never really went anywhere.

With that said I own a real-deal Les Paul and two Japanese made clones. The clones blow away the real deal on nearly every level, and they're not so expensive that I worry about gigging with them. The real-deal has almost tripled in value since I bought it 20 years ago but the Japanese clones have made me exponentially more money over time gigging out.

What brands make affordable copies/similar instruments without being affiliated with them? I’d kill for a firebird for less than $1000.

Unironically, the answer is just to move on emotionally from Gibson. They will only change when there is no money in it. So a dentist wants a Gibson? Who cares - buy a LTD which is high quality at a sensible price.

The EA of instrument manufacturers?

The apple of instrument manufacturers?

The GM of instrument manufacturers?

To be fair Kramer didn’t do himself any favors either with all that stuff he said at the laugh factory

Just buy a used Gibson folks. They are good guitars. There are deals.

/uj Gibson are a lifestyle brand same way harley davidson or tesla are, they don't sell guitars, they sell the idea of being a rockstar to coverbandcore boomers to flex on other coverbandcore boomers

The point is not to make good instruments, the point is to make people believe there's a shred of 70's rock'n'roll spirit in their stringed piece of wood and charge them a car for it

/rj Don't criticize product just buy noodle sell and get excited for new product (which will be the same product)

Satan plays an SG

To me, Gibson has been dead for hundreds of years.

uj/ *Gibson is evil because I can't afford one they do everything any normal company does. Ftfy. I use the Nestle scale to determine how evil a company is and they aren't even close to that by a long shot. Every other major guitar manufacturer does the same thing, hell every company in general buys smaller name stores. It's not uncommon by any stretch of the imagination.

Always disliked the thick neck, at least on the LP I've played, it's like playing the guitar equivalent of Henry Rollins.

Ok the uj posts were a mistake

Although this is kind of an ironically cringe post that would get reposted here if it were on arr guitar so 🤷‍♂️

The modern Flying V was a masterclass work of art. Change my mind.

I don’t begrudge the fact that they’re trying to make money. We all are. What bothers me is their insistence on keeping their profits so ridiculously high relative to the cost of manufacture. And again, a lot of companies do this, but there is usually a balance, where a certain price point brings with it a reasonable expectation of QC, service agreements, maintenance plans, and so on. What Gibson currently does is to create the cheapest instrument, at the highest price, that the market will tolerate.

We are bikers complaining about Harley selling overpriced costumes and cruisers that mostly just go out on the occasional weekend under people who want to play dress-up. Real bikers are loyal, but they’re not where the biggest profits come from.

I didn’t realize just how hard we were being screwed until I started building guitars myself.

I play a Gibson Les Paul everyday. It brings me nothing but joy. Worth every penny. I’m sure I’ll buy more. Life’s good.

Never bought a Gibson for all of the reasons you listed. I bought an Epiphone Les Paul off a friend who needed the money, but passed it forward to another friend who really wanted it.

I mainly stick with Fender and Gretsch and haven’t been disappointed. They offer well built guitars for a reasonable price. It’s a good combination that Gibson can’t seem to figure out, or they willfully and intentionally avoid.

You know you could buy a STUDIO Les Paul

Weird post. Whats the problem with capitalizing on rich people? Should I feel sorry for them and their $400k salaries that the Money for Nothing videoclip compelled them to buy a $6k les paul custom? If you want value for $$$ they also make epiphones.

Also the firebird X take... Have you ever played one? You would have an easier time explaining a chimpanzee how to construct a car than to have a bunch of kids understand how those things even work. They made them, they didnt sell for shit and they destroyed them because any other scenario required more time and labor than they could afford (gibson was bankrupt). 

Gibson isnt the salvation army but you're making it sound like they're dining with kim jong un right now 

Some of the comments here are mental. I've played a lp standard for almost 15 years and couldn't give a fuck what gibson do as a company. Nothing to do with me.

This post has “That’s why I own a Samsung and not an iPhone” energy!

I can definitely see most of the arguments all of you are making. Moreover, I fully support the criticism when it is due.

However, I am finding it hard to justify some of the comments about price / quality. To this day, of all the guitars I have ever owned / played, using my Gibson Les Paul is still my most enjoyable experience.

Obviously, you can easily find a guitar that is much cheaper that sounds as good to you. However, touching the Gibson is SO MUCH more DELIGHTFUL than e.g. the Fender at the same price point. It is obvious that Gibson Lea Paul is harder to make and superior in materials.

Why not the same hate for Fender? Also, Gibson makes Epiphones, which are cheaper and adequate in quality.

I sold my Les Paul after I got my new Harmony Silhouette. Just a superior instrument in every aspect and less than half the price. Much better, more versatile tone as well

I’m having a hard time seeing a wealthy Gibson owner as being conned when the relative cost to them is far less than what it is to most. A regular Joe, though? Maybe so.

I bought two Garrison guitars, six and twelve string, and they are the best sounding acoustic guitars I ever owned, at a really affordable price. I’m still pissed at Gibson for what they did to them.

Didn't they get in trouble for using illegal endangered wood? At least fender doesn't shove an endangered bird into every guitar

This is absolutely unacceptable! This company DOES NOT sell the guitar I want for the price I want! This is LITERALLY 1981!!1! I can tell about this because I am like the oracle of guitars, chosen by god himself and I demand bibson lower their prices and distribute some of them in my neighborhood TODAY.

/uj buy what you want, nobody cares

Bro really it just sounds like you need a wahmbulance

WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHH 🚑🚒🚑🚒

Gibson is the GM of guitars

Buy a ducking Heritage

The reason they have the headstock angle that way is because the consumers (people that hate change) want it that way. Gibson is for people who want an antiquated guitar so I'm confused why you want or expect them to be otherwise.   

The vast majority of Gibsons are unattainable? The best selling guitar on reverb is the Standard and it costs $2800. An Eastman SB59 is already $1900, with varnish $2400. An H150 Standard is $2600. $900 more is not exactly unreasonable for a company with more brand recognition and the cost of doing business in America. If anything, the SB59 is expensive relative to what it is. A Tokai LR212 is $2400 at my retailer. The studio is $2000.  Epiphones have everything from $1300 to $200. 

If you're getting priced out of a Gibson, that's the equivalent of being priced out of a Mercedes and having to settle for a Volkswagen. Guess it sucks that we're losing on future guitar players because Gibson won't make an affordable nitrocellulose USA made guitar with AAA maple top and the Gibson logo.   

The best selling guitar has the most quality control complaints? No shit. 

I love Gibson instruments

Gibson is owned by a secretive multi-billion dollar investment firm owned by the Knights Templar: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohlberg_Kravis_Roberts

The Priory of Toan is their Corporate HQ.

Not all of this is true.

Dude grow up.

• those companies sold to Gibson willingly, take it up with the people who sold out

• firebird X was a liability, it doesn’t actually matter what they did with it but giving them away when they were dogshit actually harms their brand having them out in the wild and you also can’t control resales

• who cares what price they set? Don’t like it don’t buy it. Just buy a better guitar that’s cheaper. You could get your dream guitar custom built for half the price of some of their high end shit

• the headstock thing is a non issue if you understand it and why they do it

I don’t rate Gibson, they’re overpriced and overrated but to say they’re evil is childish. It’s just guitars man.

"Evil" guitar manufacturers.

Well, that word has lost all meaning.

The people malding over this and defending Gibson are baffling to me. Why are y’all mad this guy doesn’t like Gibson?

Hopefully, they learned their lesson during the end of the Juskiwiecz era. He should’ve quit in 1999.

Even better, I have an FBI raid Era Les Paul!

/uj I would recycle everything given the time and space to live my best life as a hoarder. As much as I agree with not being wasteful, the younger generation does not give a crap about guitar. The game theory of modern corporate wasteful bloat probably justifies sending 2/3rds of all gibsons back through a chipper shredder just to keep their Studios and Standards selling for $3000-5000.

They probably topped it off with some sort of seedy lawyer tax write-off.

Honestly, fuck Gibson.

This post reminds me. I should buy another Gibson today.

Uj/ Gibson doesn’t own Gibson. They haven’t for like 6 years. They’re owned by a private equity firm. What goes around already came around for them!

You forgot that they've been busted for importing illegal wood multiple times.

*Slowly backs out of the room. . .

“Sorry fellas. It sounded like a Harley-Davidson Circle Jerk thread.”

'I disagree with the way the company is run' and 'they don't give away enough free shit' is not the same thing as "evil."

Whatever the hell "unironically" evil is even supposed to mean. I'm not sure you know what evil or ironic means.

destroyed hundreds of perfectly good guitars with construction machinery instead of idk, giving them to young or working class musicians (Firebird X incident)

Those guitars were literally fire hazards.

Lived in Memphis. Knew several people that worked at the Gibson factory. Horror. Stories.

Suffice it to say, when Chibbons started trying to earn more profits, the first thing they did was cut QA and replace skilled workers with schlubs off the street. When the blood had been wrung out of the turnip, they fired everyone and closed the plant.

Then they have the unmitigated fucking gall throw their hands up for the next half decade and deny there are any quality issues whatsoever.

But beyond the alleged bad economics of running a plant in one of the cheapest cities and largest logistics hubs in America, there is also the sheer disrespect — imagine closing a Gibson factory…in Memphis, of all places. In terms of music history, there are few Meccas quite like the Bluff City.

Fucking soulless accountants and C-Suite jackasses, man. It still pisses me off when I think about it. I’ll never own another one.

Fuck /uj posts.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Pll7GDVgI

U wat mate?

Got Insane Bucks Suing Others Nonstop

Back when I was pore I hated gibbons TeW but now I own 18 Hardees and and I only play gibbons and only listen to songs performed on them. You can work at my hardees to help you save up for a Schrechtner

I can't stand the way Gibson is run nowadays, and they've def become a 'lifestyle' brand...but I love my 3 Gibsons. Thing is, I buy them used and beat up.

I've got nothing against all the Doctor/Lawyer/Dentists Bluesboomers. Hell, they do dudes like me a huge favor because their persnickity bullshit keeps them buying either very old vintage, or modern pristine "investment" Gibsons. These dudes have unintentionally bottomed out the market for Gibbonses that aren't Gibbonsey enough for the Gibbons Club. (Bonus for me is that I hate carved-top Gibsons.)

Last one I bought was a gigged-hard, pickups replaced, pickguard missing 2011 LP Special for $900. It's a guitar that "Real" Gibson lovers wouldn't fuck with their wife's boyfriend's dick, and I paid less than a modern Epiphone. Thanks, Trugly!!!

edit: And as for the weak headstock...I'm fine with that too. Breaking them is the best way to reinforce them, and buying one with a headstock repair (even a great headstock repair) is a great way to get them WAY cheaper.

(Warning: A lot of Jerk… I mean, Text; well, also jerk)

I don’t disagree with you entirely; the first point I completely agree is shitty corporate behavior. But, okay, let’s see:

destroys perfectly fine guitars instead of giving them away.

That has been debunked already. Those guitars were hazardous and couldn’t be given away. That model in particular had a lot of issues with the electronics and that whole batch was lost. However, Gibson does have a foundation that donates instruments to people in need, or at least that’s what their PR says. I don’t know how well that works, but they have it. I’m all for critiquing Giant corporations, so long as it’s a valid criticism.

Price players out of their instruments

This is a very common talking point from Gibson haters but it’s not true. Gibsons have never been working class or regular players’ instruments, they have always been very expensive. Why are they apparently more unattainable now? Well, because generally purchasing power in America and the first world has decreased considerably compared to 60 years ago. Even if the guitars cost virtually the same accounting for inflation, people generally have less disposable income today since salaries have not grown accordingly to inflation, so the guitars are more difficult to be purchased today by all sorts of folks. Also, you have to consider the massive increase in quality from lower budget instruments and the appearance of more higher budget brands; since they can offer equally good products for much less or equal money, Gibsons and Fenders are perceived to be more expensive than they actually are. They aren’t really any more expensive today than back in the day, But They have always been very expensive and comparable to other luxury brands within other markets.

capitalise on the Rich’s nostalgia

Why is that a bad thing? If an idiot wants to spend 10k on another boring Les Paul that they’ll never even play and is actually worth only 3k or less, let them be my guests, why should I care? It’s not like Gibson has stopped producing their regular USA models. Sure, they have discontinued their more budget friendly models, but there’s still Epiphone around. Besides, that’s the target audience they chose, there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not gonna be upset at Lamborghini just because they don’t make cars for the poors like me. I’m not their target audience. And that’s fine, there are other brands I can purchase. Same with guitars.

Make guitars with fundamental flaws.

I mean… under a capitalist framework, if that’s what the buyers want, why change it? that’s just the design buyers like. If you don’t, that’s 100% fair. But why would a company change the design that has sold tens of thousands of guitars over the last 60 years? That would be insane, specially if it’s just to please the vocal portion of people that explicitly would never buy a Gibson.

And history also shows us that the Average Gibson buyer will never accept any change. They all have hated anything Gibson has released that was innovative; the last time an innovation of theirs was widely accepted was made in 1961. So why would the company constantly bashed when they try to innovate, innovate again? It would be a dumb move. Like that time they tried to sell studio monitors or Robot Tuners or a spaceship looking Flying V or the previously mentioned Firebird X. Those went really well.

more effort into lawsuits than QC

All companies sue each other all the time. It’s like the routine for people in the corporate world. It’s not like the legal department is also in charge of the QC inside the factory, there are different departments for that. But in the end, That’s just Tuesday for big companies. But Guitar centric media always tends to over blow these sorts of things when it comes to Gibson or Fender. But they’re all suing each other all the time, I don’t care.

Yes, their quality control was indeed garbage during the last decade. But they have genuinely improved since like 2020. Can you still get better guitars for far less money? Absolutely. And if that’s what you want, you’re free to do that. No one is pointing a gun at anyone’s head to purchase a Gibson. If someone wants to buy a Gibson, for whatever reason, they’re within their right to do so, it’s their money. Just like you’re within your right to purchase instruments from the con artist that promotes Toan Wood and Tone Tuners. It’s your money, it’s fine; be happy. I also bought one.

However, after all this jerking, I think singling out Gibson or any other guitar company as a particularly “evil” company is missing the larger picture. All the large Guitar manufacturers in the world are the same. Why do you think Fender owns so many Smaller brands like Gretsch, EVH, Charvel and Squire? Why do you think Cort manufactures virtually everything that isn’t American? What do you think PRS is capitalizing on when selling 5k guitars?

They’re all just Capitalists. Unregulated capitalists. And the guitar companies aren’t even the worst offenders. Hell, at least guitar companies plant some trees from time to time. There are hundreds of corporations that do far worse shit every single day all around the world, including the USA.

Complaining about one single company in an extremely niche and fairly small market is missing the point; the problem isn’t Gibson itself; it’s not even the guitar manufacturing business; it’s the whole hyper capitalist corporate model that has been around since the 80’s. Fighting if X or Y company is better or worse is a waste of time. They’re all the same shitty manufacturers ran by old suits looking for nothing but maxim profit at minimum costs.

Most of our problems in the world would be solved if we transitioned into an ethical form of capitalism, which to the more hardcore leftists sounds ludicrous. Gibson and even Fender as companies are such small players in front of the juggernauts of the business world, even more the rest of guitar companies that aren’t even close to being as big.

Tl;dr: I disagree with some of the reasons OP thinks Gibson is evil and I explain why. But in the end, I believe Fighting over which guitar company is more or less evil is a waste of time. They’re all insignificant compared to the truly big corporations that genuinely hurt the world and the working class around the world.

Corporations are not evil, nor are they good. What they are is completely and totally amoral; they operate based on the incentives of the system in which they exist. The system, ie capitalism, is evil.

Gibson QC is total shit. But that aside my major hang up with them is they continue to use that top coat that cracks over time and then they call it checking and market it as a feature. Me, I call it narcissistic behavior. The product you use is flawed and you want to convince me it’s a feature?! Excuse me?! How bout you go fck yourself pretty please?! When I purchase an instrument I want to know the finish is going to outlast me. Also when I see guitars all beat up I just see someone who doesn’t take care of things that are important to them. Why would you spend all that money on a guitar just to beat it up?! I have a 22 year old guitar right now in MINT condition. And yeah I play it often. Other than light pick marks that can be buffed out, there’s not a mark or ding on this thing. I have another that’s like 15 years old and it only has a scratch on the side and back from a wireless unit clip that I used at a show one night. It was actually the first show I played with that guitar. It broke my heart. I never used a wireless pack again. And then Gibson hires a guy to do this crap to guitars, ON PURPOSE?!?! And then they charge like 4 times the cost of the guitar in new condition?! What the actual fck?! Did we drift off into some parallel universe where people just do things that make literally 0 sense?! I just don’t understand what’s happening here. Why spend so much money on things that look trashed?! Wanna look impressive? Whip out a 50 year old Gibson in mint condition and I’d be impressed. Hell let’s see a 20 year old Gibson without cracks. Please!

I have a 1973 Gibson ripper bass with the original case. It’s in about as good of condition as you could possibly ask for. The body and headstock are RIDDLED with finish checking. I desperately want to refinish it but I know it would destroy its value. Such a depressing situation. I wouldn’t touch the paint. But damn I just wish they didn’t use nitro finish.

les paul? 😸

based

Tell me about the nut cutting. I don't know about it.

In 1959, a Les Paul Custom was $395 — the equivalent of $4,263 in today’s money.

In 1959 a standard Stratocaster was $274.50 — the equivalent of $2,962 in today’s money.

I’m honestly shocked that these two companies haven’t just perfected total CNC manufacturing and fired every human at this point, while directing all their marketing to just do “LIFESTYLE B-B-B-Brand” nonsense.

The late 70s Greco Les Paul I had was far better than the 3 real ones I have tried over the years, unfortunately I sold it to pay the bills.

The gibson boss JC? seemed like a bit of a nob, like he had a fetish for coors light neon signs and corporate office chairs, so have always bypassed gibbers due to those vibes.

What's the Firebird X incident you mention?

I have one and it just sucks I can’t get over their negative vibes I am dead serious. Like what the fuck happened to this company? I watch The Allman Bros play that shit and it is incredible. It is a rock and roll beast. Then you fast forward to now and they seriously seem like a guitar you should only play in the UK and nowhere else. It makes no sense but neither does rock.

Whatever. Gibson Les Pauls are the best guitars, everyone knows that, it's why the best players like Billy Strings and Steve Vai use nothing but.

Vai's has a Bigsby.

Billy hollowed his out after a meth bender on the tour bus.

But still.

I know where they get the wood for their guitars. In fact it’s the same company that sells tonewoods to PRS and Fender. Gibson has the largest unpaid debt by far of any company they sell to. They’re always in the red at about half a million dollars.

UJ/ I used to own two Bigsons. A SG and a Les Paul. They were guitars that cost 1200 that felt like splintered wood and every time I looked at them the nitro finish was worse and more worn to the point it was almost a bare guitar... and this was after SIX MONTHS of use. Sold them for an Ibanez Universe, which I in turn sold for 3 LTDs. Any of these other guitars are better. The LTD Eclipse and Viper smoked any of the tribute and standard Les Paul/SG guitars I tried. I still get nostalgic for the SG sometimes until I plug one in and remember the finish is fading, the wood is crap, the headstock is cracking, and the guitar was Made in America so it was made by some guy making terrible wages to finish a product with shit craftsmanship just to slap a print on the back of the headstock and sell it for 1700 dollars. The LTD Black Metal Eclipse vs the Gibson Raven series all black tribute was no contest. The LTD had stainless steel frets, a Seymour Duncan pickup, a hard poly satin finish, locking tuners, and tone pro bridge. The nut was the only thing that needed changed. The Gibson? Had to replace all of the parts and mostly needed "Made in America" parts to fit fucking imperial measurements. It was not worth it to me to pay twice as much for a guitar that was built with half the value and was almost collapsing in my hands. So for what it's worth... Gibson can eat it.

I’m gonna be serious here too and say I don’t care I love my SG standard. And I will be getting another Gibson for my LP.

Yeah in the past Gibson has been horrible with guitars ( referring to the firebird X failure) but I see no reason their new CEO would do anything of the like. It seems he loves seeing people play Gibsons and well Gibson needs it they’ve been dying off with the younger artists for a bit now. Cesar has his head in the right spot and I see Gibson only on the upturn for the future. Barring any more destruction of perfectly fine guitars that could’ve been used.

TV industry: XYZ has a great new model, I'll get that tv this time

Car: this car by XYZ is great value and well built. I'll grab that car. I don't need a Mercedes Benz just because Benz invented the car

Phone: I'm due to a new phone, this model from XYZ looks great. I might get that instead of an iPhone, despite apple inventing the modern smart phone

Guitars: I must only buy from the brand that invented this specific variation of this technology. No other brand has managed to replicate this 70 year old technology. There is simply no way toan can come to be if not made by a man named Judd or Hoss in Tennessee. Science simply has not made the advancements to make that achievable.

This is the most circle jerky post that I’ve ever seen in this circle jerk!

with fundamental flaws like the headstock angle and nut cutting

TBF, everytime they tried to fix this, the traditional idiots come out and complain. That's their market. They can't fight with them. If they want broken headstocks, then so be it.

I have a 335 and I love it. Sorry guys, I’m gay.

Hetfield tried to switch from esp to Gibson (tells the story in his book ‘messengers’; didn’t do it primarily because of the corporate culture.

Gibbons is more daft than it is evil

for the record, Steinberger is not a recent acquisition, the trademark belonged to Gibson since the 80's. Basically, none of Ned's active patents that are assigned to Gibson are required for making Steinberger-like guitars, the important patents are expired and belong in the public domain or are assigned directly to Ned.

Steinberger's current reissues are identical to the Korean-made Spirit series guitars that were sold by MusicYo and built by Cort to MusicYo's specificatons in the 00's, except nowadays they are practically made in Epiphone facilities. They are "Spirit by Steinberger" rather than actual 80's Steinberger re-creations. So, gibson never was smart enough to drive Steinberger's innovations into the ground to begin with, lol. It's like a used car salesman trying to wrap his head around an alien spacecraft. (Also, if someone's interested, you can take a look at Ned's (<60!) patents here)

Not defending Gibson. Their prices continue to rise and many of their guitars are marketed towards ultra wealthy boomers with cash nowadays. That said, my Les Paul stills plays great. The sound is good, feels great in my hands, and have zero regrets about buying it. You pay for what you get in my opinion. Remember a lot of Gibson's stuff is still handcrafted over many other guitars that are all made by machines and have far less "hands" on them during production. That is the Gibson way and don't see it changing anytime soon as long as they continue to thrive.

idk... just dont buy the dentist guitar then and shop fender japan..?

Haterade. You’re calling capitalism unironically evil. Supply and demand. They don’t charge prices people aren’t willing to pay. You’re essentially saying here that you WOULD WANT a Gibson. Can’t AFFORD a Gibson. Therefore, evil. That’s not how any of this works.

Yeah they're the Harley Davidson of guitars coasting off boomer nostalgia and a reputation from 60 years ago.

That said you'll have to pry my Gibbons out of my cold dead hands.

I completely agree with you but I fucking love my beat to shit used Les Paul.

does suck when businesses do buisness stuff.

The "gibson is evil" / "gibson has bad QC" / "my epiphone blows away real gibsons" crap is the biggest jerk of them all.

Don't like Gibson? Buy another brand. Tell us how great those companies are from a commercial perspective.

Can't afford a Gibson? Buy something else. Tell us how much those other brands "punch above their weight".

Thinking you are making any difference to Gibson's bottom line? Enjoy your rant.

I have 4 gibson guitars, all but 1 purchased new. They play and sound great. No, I am not a dentist. I just have a real job and make adult money.