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Reservations required to access Yosemite from April-October 2024

First, I recommend you read this entire page, written by the NPS with FAQs on this topic: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/reservations.htm

Note you will also need a reservation for the park on weekends in February + President's Day but that is not covered in detail in this post.

Starting April 13th through October 27th, you may need a permit to drive into Yosemite. There are 3 periods with different requirements:

- April 13th-June 30th on Sat, Sun, and holidays

- July 1- August 16th for all days

- August 17th - October 27th on Sat, Sun, and holidays

Here are all the ways you can access Yosemite, roughly from easiest to most difficult:

  1. Drive in before 5a or after 4p. Self explanatory. If you enter after 4p and pay the 3 day entry fee, you still have to enter before 5a or after 4p every other day you plan to visit.

2. A day reservation. These reservations go on sale at the following times:

Preseason: January 5th, 2024 at 8a PST until sold out

Remaining go on sale at 8a PST 7 days before you want to enter, for full days or afternoons (literally, after noon) only.

If you are able to plan ahead, do not wait for the second window. It will be 100x more competitive for these than the first window above.

Passes are good for three consecutive days only. If you want to visit for 7 days, you will need 3 separate passes per car. In 2020, you had to enter on the first day of your permit. This is not the case this summer. Your pass can be valid for 6/20-22 and you can enter for the first time on the 21st, but it doesn't extend your permit date past the 22nd.

THESE PASSES CANNOT BE SOLD OR TRANSFERRED. IDs are checked at entry and the names must match the reservation holder, who must be physically in the car. You also cannot take the "leftover" days, e.g. the last 2 days of someone else's 3 day pass.

If you do not get a ticket at one of the 2 times above, many people have found them by continuously monitoring the recreation.gov page, as passes become available when others cancel trips, etc. Simply owning an annual/America the Beautiful pass does not gain you entry into the park; you must also have a reserved day pass.

3. Take YARTS bus into the park from a gateway community. YARTS

4. You don't need a day pass to enter the Hetch Hetchy area. You cannot drive through Hetch Hetchy to access any other areas of the park. Hetch Hetchy entry hours are limited at 8a-5p.

5. A lodging or camping reservation inside the Park.

a. Yosemite lodging is booked at travelyosemite.com.

b. Campground reservations are made on recreation.gov. No FCFS campgrounds are open in the Park in the summer. https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/camping.htm

c. You can reserve private homes inside the park, e.g. on AirBnb. Only homes in Wawona, Foresta, and Yosemite West are inside the Park boundaries. I understand that these owners have a certificate they will send you in advance to show to the ranger at the gate. Every other community (Bass Lake, Lee's Vining, Oakhurst, Mariposa, Groveland, El Portal, etc) are not inside the park and will require a day pass.

If you have lodging inside the park, the entry gate will issue you a permit for 3 days or the length of your reservation, whichever is longer.

6. A wilderness permit. A wilderness permit is a permit to camp in the back country. You must bring all of your own equip and hike at least 4 miles from a trailhead before camping. Here's all the info on that. 40% of each trailhead's quota is available in an online lottery 7 days in advance. If any remain after that process, you can pick them up in person at a wilderness center. To pick up a same day permit, you have to come into the park before 5a (centers open at 8a) or have a day entry reservation. A wilderness permits gets you into the park starting one day before your permit start date. You’d need an entry permit for any permit required days before or after that.

7. A Half Dome permit. Here's the info on Half Dome. Ascending the Half Dome cables is the only trail in the park that requires a special permit once you have secured entry. There is a lottery in March that issues 80% of the daily permits. There are no FCFS HD permits being issued in the park this year, instead an online lottery 2 days before on recreation.gov for the remaining 20% of permits. A HD permit allows you 3 days of access to the park, starting on the day of your permit, so you will need a day reservation if you want to come earlier. Obviously you will also need camping/lodging reservations somewhere also.

8. Commercial Use Authorization. You can sign up for a Yosemite tour with an outfit that has a CUA.

9. Walk or bicycle in. This is a bad idea for most people. Look at a map and elevation profile.

Other comments on reservation system:

- You cannot come in on a Friday during the weekend only period, pay the 3 day entry fee, and enter on Saturday. You will need a permit to enter after 5a on Saturday.

- When permits are in effect, yes you will need one even if you only want to drive through the park without stopping.

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Summer 2024 Info and Recs

Trying to reduce duplicate posts on this as the summer season planning gears up. All other generic trip planning posts will be deleted and redirected here. Please add your suggestions in comments!

**The park is requiring peak hour entry reservations from mid April to October, in varying forms. Please read the other pinned post for all of those details.**

Shoulder Season (April and May) Specifics

  • Winter road and trail closures remain in effect until plowing/snowmelt completes. Check the current conditions page for updates on Tioga Rd, Glacier Pt Rd, Mist and 4 Mile Trail.
  • You are no longer reqd by law to carry tire chains, but conditions can warrant them at any time. Plan ahead and check the weather.

Summer (May- Sep) Ideal Five Day Trip

2 Days of hikes from Valley

- 4 Mile to Glacier Pt https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemite-valley/four-mile-trail/four-mile-trail.htm

- Mist Trail to Nevada Falls https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemite-valley/mist-trail/mist-trail.htm

You can link the 2 above for an epic 18 mile day.

Other hikes:

Lower Yosemite Falls https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemite-valley/lower-yosemite-falls/lower-yosemite-falls.htm

Mirror Lake https://www.yosemitehikes.com/yosemite-valley/mirror-lake/mirror-lake.htm

Raft down Merced (raft rentals at Curry Village usually open in June), bike around Valley Loop (rentals at Curry Village and Yosemite Lodge are now open), Swim at Sentinel Beach (check water levels and temp)

1 day of hikes from Tioga Rd (Note this road is not yet open, check for updates before your trip)

- Olmsted Pt (pull out viewpoint on the way to other hikes if driving from the Valley)

- Porcupine Creek to North Dome https://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/north-dome/north-dome.htm

- Clouds Rest https://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/clouds-rest/clouds-rest.htm

Other Hikes:

Cathedral Lakes: https://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/cathedral-lakes/cathedral-lakes.htm

Lembert Dome: https://www.yosemitehikes.com/tioga-road/lembert-dome/lembert-dome.htm

1 Day along Glacier Pt Rd: (Note this road is not yet open, check for updates before your trip)

- Taft Point and Sentinel Dome. Same trailhead, only need to park once. https://www.yosemitehikes.com/glacier-point-road/sentinel-dome/sentinel-dome.htm

https://www.yosemitehikes.com/glacier-point-road/taft-point/taft-point.htm

- Glacier Pt lookout. This is a paved viewpoint with a great straight on Half Dome and Valley view. Some people prefer the view at Washburn Point, a little before Glacier Pt when driving. Glacier Pt has restrooms, water fountains, and a snack/gift shop (TBD if open summer 2023). You could hike a little down Panorama (and hike back up to Glacier Pt) if you want. https://www.yosemitehikes.com/glacier-point-road/panorama-trail/panorama-trail.htm

There is also a trail linking Taft Pt/Sentinel Dome to Glacier Pt. You'll need to make it a loop or have 2 cars.

1 Day at Mariposa Grove:

- Mariposa Grove: https://www.yosemitehikes.com/southern-yosemite/mariposa-grove/mariposa-grove.htm

If you are just going for a long weekend, I would do 1 day from Valley above, 1 day on Tioga, 1 Day on Glacier Pt Rd.

Summer (May- Sep) Ideal Trip WITH KIDS OR LESS ACTIVE GROUP

- Day in Valley: Lower Yosemite Falls, float down Merced River (check water levels), rent bikes

- Day on Tioga Rd: stop at Olmsted Pt, spend the day swimming/picnic at Tenaya Lake or hike Lyell Canyon (go as far as you like, pretty flat)

- Day at Mariposa Grove: stop at Tunnel View, assuming shuttle is running from parking area walk around Mariposa Grove, Wawona History Center (if open, TBD)

- Day in Valley: Mirror Lake, picnic/swim at Sentinel Beach, El Cap Meadow to watch climbers with binoculars (sometimes a ranger/educator there to talk to as well)

Where can I eat/ What is open?

https://www.travelyosemite.com/ (click on dining)

What are the conditions / are the waterfalls flowing?

https://www.nps.gov/yose/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

Where should I stay?

- Campgrounds in the park went on sale 5 months before on the 15th of each month. You can check recreation/gov for cancellations. No campgrounds are FCFS this summer. Here's more info: https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/campgrounds.htm

- All in park lodging should be booked on travelyosemite.com for the Lodge, Curry Village, Housekeeping, etc. Beware of 3rd party sites for any of these options.

- There are many campgrounds and hotels outside of the park in gateway communities like Mariposa, Midpines, Groveland, and Oakhurst. Be sure to check the drive time from these hotels to your actual destination (e.g. Valley Visitors Center) rather than "Yosemite National Park". This will tell you drive time to the gates, which requires 30-60min more driving to your likely location. Remember you may need an entry permit if you stay outside the park.

People in this sub commonly recommend Yosemite Bug, Tenaya Lodge, Rush Creek, and Autocamp all outside the park.

What trails are open?

https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/conditions.htm

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If you can’t go, please cancelTrip Report

With summer coming up I wanted to ask everyone, if you can’t make your Yosemite campsite reservation, please take a moment to cancel it. As you all know, many campgrounds sell out quickly, but they end up half empty because of no-shows. By canceling, you’re giving fellow nature lovers the chance to enjoy the park. Be kind and let someone else have the adventure!

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What is the best time to arrive this Friday to avoid the Memorial Day traffic?

I have an overnight reservation in the park for the Memorial Day weekend (at the Ahwahnee, please don't hate me). Check in time is at 4pm on Friday. What do you think is the best time of day to arrive at the park to avoid the insane traffic backup that is almost certain to happen? The last time I stayed in the valley over this weekend, it took more than 2 1/2 hours to get from the entrance to our campground at Lower Pines. I would really like to avoid that this time if I can.

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Panorama Trail? FAQ

Took a spur of the moment trip to Yosemite. I was hoping to do Panorama trail, but I don't want to push myself to loop it. I originally thought there was a shuttle system, but apparently it's not going up to Glacier Point? Any other ways to get back? I probably can't call an Uber, yeah? /j

Any and all advice is welcome.

How strict is the 4pm cutoff for reservations?

Hoping to enter the park without a reservation Memorial Day weekend. Is 4pm a very strict time that I can enter? Is 3:30pm or 3:45pm early enough to get turned away? I want to maximize every minute I can in the park. Entering the south entrance so even if I enter at 4pm I have a bit of a drive to get to the valley.

Can we get to Rafferty Creek->Vogelsang?

Hi all,

First time visitor here. We got a wilderness pass for Rafferty Creek->Vogelsang next weekend! Very last minute but I just saw that Tioga road is closed. In this this, how to we get to our designated trailhead to start the hike?

Do we park our car somewhere and hike in? Is there any sort of shuttle we can take?

Thanks in advance!

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working in yosemite this summer - car question

I've heard that having a car is a good idea if I'm gonna be working in the valley - where would I park it? Is there employee parking something? Or would I be fighting for a spot in the curry parking lot?

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Map of good Yosemite backcountry campsites

Hello! Does anyone have a map of Yosemite backcountry campsites? I've been people compile a list of common dispersed campsites for other parks and curious if anyone has something similar for Yose

Sirens at Upper Pines this morning

Heard a bunch of sirens headed toward the Mist Trail this morning, then a helicopter flew into the valley and into the canyon a bit later. Anyone know what happened and/or if everyone is okay?

Chilnualna Falls camp recommendations

I got a permit to backpack the Chilnualna falls trail later this week, was wondering if anyone who did this trail in the past had any suggestions on where to camp the night out?

Park reservation

We are going to Yosemite 6/19-6/21 for the first time and realized that we need to buy the park pass for 6/19. The second phase to buy the pass is not release until 6/12 per website. Does anyone know how hard it is to get the pass on 6/12? We will get to Yosemite around 1pm on 6/19, driving from Lake Tahoe.

We book a cabin inside Yosemite park in Wawona. Check in at 4pm. So we plan just driving around the park before checking in. Yosemite valey is 45 minutes from the rental.

We are just light hickers. Is there any good sights to check out near Wawona.

Last but not least, will need to fly back from Oakland airport, which will depart around 4pm. I saw the drive is about 4 hours. I guess leaving Yosemite around 10am would be good enough?

Thank you.

Happy isles to cathedral lakes

Has anybody made the trek? What are conditions like?

I canceled my trip Trip Report

I just canceled my trip to Yosemite June 21-23rd at lower pines if you want to jump on it.

How much are bundles of wood in Upper Pines?

Just the title! We're going tomorrow and was curious. Thank you!

Where can I leave pack from LYV to Half Dome (to head to Clouds Rest)? Also help with water location north of Clouds Rest.

Hi, I'm thinking of doing this itinerary in 10 days time. My preference is to hike 10miles on day one and set up camp at the junction of JMT & Clouds Rest, but if I can't make it, I'll have to camp at Little Yosemite Valley.

Question 1: If I end up in LYV on night 1, am I able to leave my pack at the junction of JMT and Half Dome somewhere so I don't need to carry it the next day on the way to HD? I'm going to attempt going to Clouds Rest after Half Dome and then set up camp at lower elevation near the junction of Forsyth trail.

Question 2: Where is water closest to the Night 2 campsite? This is the smaller loop connecting Clouds Rest to JMT and not the one that goes close to High Sierra campgrounds.

https://imgur.com/a/c4aM1Nc

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Where to backpack first week of June in Yosemite backcountry

Looking for a short 2 night 3 day back country backpacking trip first week of June in or around Yosemite.

Have a permit for Glen Aulin but I suspect that’s probably still got a ton of snow cover 2 weeks from now but could be wrong

Is best bet a lower elevation loop like Hetch Hetchy this year given snow cover?

Welcome any and all perspectives. Thank you

Half-day peak-hour plus reservations 2024

I'm a bit confused about the entry rules with the half-day peak-hour plus permit. The NPS website https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/reservations.htm says "Half-day reservations are only valid for arrivals after noon (on all three days).",

whereas the Recreation.gov https://www.recreation.gov/timed-entry/10086745/ticket/10112099 website says "Noon/half day reservations must arrive at noon or later on the first day reserved. Day two and day three you may access the park at any time."

If the first day on my half-day permit is a Saturday, can I arrive at say 9am on Sunday?

National park bday trip

Hey guys. I’m trying to decide on a trip for my 40th bday and have it narrowed down to Olympic National Park or Sequoia/Kings Canyon/Yosemite. The dates would be June 6-15ish. I have heard Olympic can be iffy weather wise and that Yosemite can be crazy busy already. I love to hike, explore, just get in to the wilderness, etc. Any advice/input greatly appreciated!

Tuolumne River in Later-September?

Hi all,

I am camping for three nights in September at Wawona, and we are considering driving up to see Tuolumne Meadows (which people have said is a must-seen).

From anyone’s experience, is the river still flowing in late-September (23rd-26th)? Thanks for any info!