Favorite not-political movie?
Agreed. I watched them in theaters this past month and they were amazing. Just good storytelling and good acting. They shine even brighter now than they did 23 years ago.
Tolkien was writing about World War I and the dangers of bad governments.
Tolkien explicitly despised allegory, he was most definitely not writing about WW1 or any kind of political warning.
There was nothing about World War I in there except between Frodo and his relationship with Sam mirroring relationships between two soldiers
Tolkien stated outwardly multiple times across his life that The Lord of the Rings was not in any way influenced or referencing his WW1 experiences. There is a significant amount of Christian influence in his world building which he has acknowledged, but stating that he was writing about real world conflicts and political figures is just blatantly and provably false.
Tolkien was a staunch monarchist and it shows
Imma be honest, if he was writing about bad governments, he did a pretty bad job at it.
Ok, but Tolkien was significantly philosophical. There are all kinds of messages in it. Just not overt commentary on contemporary politics.
People read it that way then though. There some bizarre review from a contemporary Marxist critic about it being pastoralist, where the author doesn’t seem to understand what pastoralism is or even really what the problem with pastoralism is. (For the record, I only know about this from Todd in the Shadows video about James Somerton, he has a citation to “A companion to JRR Tolkien p357” which I can’t find a good online copy of and doesn’t appear to be his source for that claim)
A bunch of white guys fight over a historical artifact that they have no rightful claim to, and when people from its native country come to claim it, they refuse to give it back.
This comment is satire at its finest
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Tolkien was a Christian and his writing was influenced by his religious and moral beliefs.
Obligatory reminder that Amazon Prime, IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes absolutely will suppress your feedback over politics, including blocking movie reviews and/or cancelling your account without recourse.
Source: Prime threatened to close my account if I continued to attempt to leave negative film reviews and hurt their showrunners' poor feewings. They falsely claimed I was violating their terms agreement which barred the usage of foul language, hate speech, etc, even though my reviews contained absolutely none of these, and was focused entirely on clean criticism of the quality of film content.
Doing a bit of research for the uninitiated will reveal that this is hardly uncommon, with many users having reported similar complaints over the years. These users are suppressed without explanation, ironically presenting an issue where individual free speech is considered second class tier, after the supreme rights of progressive corporations to pursue control of their Message narrative.
What did you write there? What was the criticism?
My review was for the documentary "Shiny Happy People." The marketing is meant to make you believe the angle covers the cringe tabloid Duggar family and the disturbing sexual abuse allegations that were uncovered.
However after watching the documentary, this is not the case. I expected something that would condemn the improper actions of those involved. But that's not what it's about at all. Instead, the entire narrative is devoted to painting a villainous caricature of the dangerous Christian American. It's a hit piece that gathers whatever they can find, and stuffs it into one fearmongering package to manipulate the viewer into a discriminating position.
As a Christian myself, it was obviously offensive due to its message. And hey, I'm used to that from Hollywood. Anti-Christian disinformation is the norm, not the exception.
But, it was even more offensive just because of its cheaply propagandic nature, and as a person who seeks as unbiased a position as possible when vetting a popular scandal, or conspiracy theory, or criminal case, etc, this was shockingly gross.
Look, at the end of the day, my beliefs are pretty simple. I'm a free speech advocate. These producers have the absolute right to make whatever slanted garbage documentary they want. But, within the terms of service agreement under Amazon Prime, I certainly have an option to review the film and give it my fair shake as I see fit. I'm not necessarily making a Constitutional argument as far as what I'm "allowed" to say in this review. I'm not planning on taking them to court. But give me a break here.
5 times I submitted my review and 5 times I received the following: "We couldn't post your review because it doesn't meet our guidelines for one or more of these reasons:"
- Profanity
- Harassment
- Hate speech
- Sexual content
- Illegal activity
- Private information
Zero times, I used profanity or even sensitive keywords. Zero times, I used hate speech or harassment. I edited the names "Duggars" and "Bill Gothard" out of my amended review, in case I was somehow breaking the "private information" rule. On the final attempt, I was warned that further attempts could result in termination of my Prime account. So I finally surrendered.
It's massively ironic that the official corporate justification is to protect against harassment and hate speech, when one could make a valid argument that the film itself qualifies as explicitly anti-Christian propaganda - and I don't even really care that it is, only that it's NOT a documentary about a crime, and they cannot even permit an authentic audience reaction to reflect this. They are literally that threatened and afraid of our voices. Ultimately whether I'm actually right or wrong is inconsequential here, as it's simply an opinion from a plebe like me.
I didn't break the rules by having an opinion. But it's a opinion they simply can't tolerate. It's just a darn movie review. My opinion might be brilliant, or it might be dumb, it doesn't matter. Heck, I've seen many reviews filled with nonsense and cursing, and so what? It's petty to censor mine due to political reasons, and it's blatantly against Amazon's own community guidelines as well.
Rant over. For those interested in the entire story, you can read my full review and comments here and determine for yourselves whether I broke these rules. Even if you disagree with my position, or think I'm being silly, it's more than clear that I didn't break community guidelines. And it's not just me. Google it, and you'll find many, many others who have received baseless warnings/suspensions not only for movie reviews, but for product reviews as well. As Nerdrotic, Critical Drinker, and many others have pointed it out, they hate us, and are trying to remove us from even the most harmless pockets of influence in society.
I know we’re ragging on big corporate conglomerate Amazon as we fucking should, but maybe this is less Amazon directly censoring and more just extreme users falsely reporting you?
I’m not religious and would never defend any powerful institution (religious groups, corporations) to any degree, but I’ll always defend people’s ability to post reviews and say what they want to say about any artistic endeavor.
There are people that don’t share that sentiment, and just like review-bombing is a thing I can guarantee that other users who don’t agree with your viewpoint are more than happy to report-bomb your review.
I’d blame Amazon’s lazy practices of not vetting their reports and taking the easy way out of “let’s just ban this person” over them targeting random Joe-shmoe #37452’s review.
Yup that seems reasonable. I'm not sure how their approval process works. But it would follow that someone with an axe to grind might continue to block a review out of pure spite, even after it's been edited down to an inoffensive level.
Not entirely unrelated but this reminds me of the time Amazon locked someone out of his house because he allegedly use racial swearing to a delivery guy and it was recorded on his Amazon smart bell.
We truly are starting to live in a corporation dominated dystopia.
Damn that title long as fuck.
Home alone
It's a two hour endorsement of the Stand Your Ground Doctrine.
FUCK YEAH IT IS!!!
LOL!!!! 😂
I liked the stand your ground doctrine joke, but it isn't far off. The movie celebrates individualism and examines coming of age from a zany perspective.
It presents those that would engage in home invasion as buffoons that even a young kid from the upper middle class can overcome. It celebrates those that work for their position in life and decries those that would break the law by taking from them. It is a celebration of the hard working successful American and a slap down of the uneducated, unintelligent and greedy people that envy that.
It’s a basic political statement “ don’t brake the law and steal things, you don’t know what people will do to retaliate “
Space Balls: The Flamethrower was obviously a glaring criticism of the military industrial complex /s
Ther search for more money.
Honestly I think it was more an indictment of LucasFilm's practices specifically as opposed to capitalism in general, but I was joking
Fun fact: Lucas liked and allowed the idea of a spoof movie IF no merchandise. Hence the merchandise scene but no real merchandise
Second stipulation: Lone Star must not look like Han Solo. Hence he looks like Indiana Jones.
Also the whole propaganda speak around the Schwartz religion was clearly a comment on organised religion in the middle east.
The "combing the desert" bit was a reflection on the futility of the Iraq War. Idc if it's anachronistic I will die on this hill.
“We ‘aint found shit!”
"185 credits on IMDB. 185! You know what people say to me? 'Found anything?!' 185!" Tim Russ.
Obvious commentary on Elon musk
Puss in Boots 2 is a masterpiece.
The Dark Knight. "Vaguely political undertones" sure, but mostly an awesome crime thriller set in the Batman Universe.
I mean sure it’s not explicitly political but it’s very much about terrorism in a post 9/11 world.
Many politicians like Obama have cited this film. Obama compared the Joker to an accurate representation of Isis.
Also the fact that Nolan released it during the Election.
Batman beats the joker by warrantless wiretapping, it's about as explicitly political as you can get without being a political satire.
Predator
I don’t know, from what I recall there was a lot of CIA pencil pushing going on in that film.
Not to mention that the movie was practically a satire of military and macho man bravado and even 80's action flicks to a degree.
My favorite non-political movies, the ones about CIA organized militarism against enemies of the state that devolve because of unknown elements.
It’s very clearly a metaphor for the Vietnam war. And the whole movie is about how useless hyper masculinity is.
Keep the modern politics out of the movies.
Honestly I don't even mind modern politics in movies so long as they're in service to a good story with well written characters. When politics is put ahead of making a good movie you get a bad movie, regardless of which side does it
The original Star Wars was based on Lucas's political opinion about the vietnam War, which would have been "modern politics" back in the 1970's when the movie was made
What do you mean by "modern" politics?
Probably talking about the forced insertion of far left political ideals in media where it doesn't even make sense.
No its a forced insertion of any politics left or right that takes away from telling a good and coherent story is what i dont like.
if the story uses politics correctly thats one thing. Perfect example shogun. weirdly animes like log horizon and shield hero also do a good job implementing politics in their shows but using it effectively and not forced in your face.
I like lgbtq representation in a story if done to help the story but not be SOLE driving point of a story. V for Vendetta used a lesbian couple in its story to help tell a story without drilling it in one’s head.
Being gay does not constitute political affiliation. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with political leaning. I've lost count of how many gay conservatives I've met in my life.
Also, I agree that forcing any kind of politics into pop media is scummy. But I'm gonna need you to point out in mainstream pop media where they are inserting far right politics into it. I haven't seen any of that. Only far left politics being inserted into mainstream movies and TV shows. There aren't any far right ideologues in Hollywood. They get ousted as soon as they're exposed for their political leanings.
Being gay does not constitute political affiliation.
No, but it's rare for a gay character to just be a gay character. They're somehow also special in some way, or better in some way because of their gayness.
Maybe not directly by the narrative always, but by the meta-narrative and constant pattern of them popping up. And it's almost unheard of them being actual villains or treated with the same gloves by other characters for the same negative actions they might take.
Gay characters are the modern equivalent of the 90s autistic savants. Mercury Rising, Monkeys, RainMan, etc.
Broke back mountain is great movie for example. B/c the story was great
Politics espoused by “the bad team”.
That statement is literally 'keep wet out of water'. Every movie is political. Every narrative is political.
Now saying 'keep hamfisted politics out of movies' is something I could agree with.
Killer Klowns from Outer Space
I seen they are making a killer klowns from outer space game.
It already came out. It's not great unfortunately.
that makes me sad...
gayniggers from outer space is better
Office Space
My favorite apolitical movie about the alienation of the working class.
I think largely because it also doesn’t beat you over the head with it. It’s just “work sucks, middle managers are incompetent, go do something you’ll be happier doing”. It’s an experience almost everyone has had at some point regardless of background and most people agree with.
Pacific rim
Pacific Rim 2 sucks
What are talking about there’s no pacific rim 2
I'd argue there is some political aspects to it with the whole Jaeger Program vs Wall of Life Program debate. But the rest of it, hell yes. Love PR
This is the kind of movies I collect. Not a masterpiece, but a lot of action and fun.
The primary theme of pacific rim is “Strength through Diversity” it’s an incredibly woke movie.
Kung Pow Enter the Fist
Jesus christ people actually think the movies they're listing aren't political at all 😂😂😂
Yeah, this is fun.
It really highlights the lack of thought that goes into the content they consume and confirms that the only reason half these people see modern films as political, is because certain social media circles have trained them to see certain types of politics, where they otherwise wouldn't have.
Superman
He literally fights for “Truth, Justice, and the American Way”
The distinguished gentleman with eddy murphy. A movie about a con man getting into congress that mocks the system without really getting political.
Or Man of the Year with Robin Williams, again more mocking of our system without taking sides.
Yup! It's true! I did all this...except that; that woman got her shoes back
How is mocking the political system not a political statement?
Teletubbies the movie??
Jaws
The mayor keeps the beaches open for the economy of the town, even though it's dangerous to do so and people will die because there's a dangerous entity taking lives.
It was criticising politicians who don't care for the people they serve, only the money they serve.
And it's exactly what happened during COVID.
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Jack Sparrow was marooned due to the politics on his ship
I just miss when people seemed to have an actual ability to convey any political messaging in subtle ways to enhance more universal themes/morales that aren't as closely tied to current year political debates, without compromising narrative integrity.
RoboCop is my favorite
”Metaphors? I hate metaphors. That’s why my favourite book is Moby Dick. No frou-frou symbolism. Just a story of a man who hates an animal. And that’s enough.”
The Nice Guys or The Other Guys. Wish both would get sequels.
2 girls 1 cup
We are all the two girls, and the rich have provided us with one shit filled cup to share.
Wreck it Ralph. Shrek. I like it when the misunderstood big guy gets a happy ending.
Don't know why they've always got to make the guy ugly like that. I like looking at beautiful people.
Both these movies involve an uprising against the established norm.
Men in Black
Backdoor Babes (1985)
Sounds like some Jim Crow nonsense. Super political.
Five nights at Freddy’s
Thanks to labor laws, you don’t have to spend the entire week at Freddie’s.
Tremors.
Treasure Planet
The Killer by John Woo
Face/Off
Pretty much anything by Woo.
Memento
People will take advantage of the weak when it suits them.
Cocain Bear. If you have seen it, then you know what I am talking about. Empire Strikes Back is also pretty good.
Are you claiming the movie about a war with space Nazi’s is not political?
I know I'm probably basic for it, but I think E.T. might be my favourite movie.
The US government takes over their home with disregard for their fourth amendment rights.
Oceans 11,13
In Bruges
The vast majority of movies aren’t political, people seem to miss that
Lol
You're diluting the argument by using "political" as a criticism of what you call "woke" media. Yes, the shills are right, most of the most significant media in history has been political. But that's the thing: modern media is not "political", it's shallow and redundant social justice at best.
This is why people don’t take this sub seriously
Reservoir Dogs
The Big Lebowski.
Jurassic Park
The movie, about capitalism and greed compromising safety and humanity’s innate nature to use, abuse, capitalize, and destroy new discoveries and nature, is not political. Sure…
Any 80s action movie eg Predator
Yes there were no politics in 80s action movies. Not in Rambo: First Blood, not In Rambo: First Blood Part II, not in Rambo III, not in Dogs of War, not in Robocop, not in The Running Man, and absolutely not in Full Metal Jacket. In fact, if Predator came out today, this sub definitely wouldn’t cry about the DEI cast.
Dirty Work
Star Wars, ignore the rebellion being white Viet Cong in space
In a Violent Nature was a really good horror movie that just came out.
UHF. If anything Al pokes fun at other movies.
Pokémon movie 2.
Most fiction is allegory in some form, Tolkien making a world to warn of the dangers of industrialization and the industrial military complex is no more or less political than The Boys, which is very much a caricature of contemporary US political culture.
If you mean they take the covert nature of deeper meaning and headline with it, that’s not the introduction of politics, but the introduction of stupidity.
An old one: Hawk the Slayer.
Akira, Boss Baby, Ghost In The Shell, Wall - E
I unfortunately cannot tell if this is satire with how people on this sub are lol
Dredd
The filthy frank lore movie
Dead Alive/Brain Dead.
I mean this a pretty hard question, if you’re looking for a movie with NO politics whatsoever then you’d be pretty hard pressed to find one.
I like EEAAO which is I think apolitical enough.
But like if you look at the Oscar winners for the past 10 years then 70% of the best picture winners are political.
Inside Out!
Lord of the rings trilogy, bladerunner directors cut, Conan the barbarian, the thing, the void (2017), old boy ( original), I saw the devil, godzilla
Since someone already posted LOTR, I'm gonna say Zodiac or The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
The Shawshank Redemption, The Rock, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Willow, LOTR, The Last Unicorn, Princess Mononoke, Back to the Future, the Long Kiss Goonight, Total Recall, Gone in 60 Seconds, Gladiator, BraveHeart, Dances with Wolves, Lonesome Dove, Tombstone, The Man Who Would be King, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, I have a lot, and the list doesn’t include remakes.
Joe vs the Volcano.
Smokey and the Bandit
Rocky 2
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Shawshank
Mortal Kombat
Superman Returns
Hulk 2003
Big Trouble in Little China
Ninja Scroll
I'm just gonna stop because the list just goes on and on and those are basically just my favorite movies hahah.
I hope people here realize that saying that there’s apolitical movies is like saying Romeo and Juliet is a romance.
That was the joke on the other subreddit
The Lighthouse
You know what I’m not afraid to say it anymore I fucking love 50 first dates that movie gets me laughing and tearing up everytime I watch it
Caddy shack
Not a movie but I just watched The Terminal List.
Dragon Ball Super : Super Hero
Like all art, every single film ever made has the author’s political/anthropological ideas either subconsciously or consciously reflected in the work.
The pinchcliffe grand prix. I dont think that the movie have anyting to do with politics.
Pacific Rim
Chicken Run. It's just a nice film about some chickens!
Heat? With Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. A thrilling heist film with clashing ideals between it's 2 leads, each proficient in their craft. I don't recall the film becoming political nor does it question the ideals of either side.
LOTR, obviously, but I do also love Dog soldiers, just a bunch of military guys fighting werewolves in the woods, good shit.
I don’t find it a problem when it’s about politics. It’s a problem if it’s about present day politics.
Generally speaking
What present day politics exactly?
John wick is hands down my favourite non political movie, dude’s dog gets killed and his car stolen by some little bastard who doesn’t understand the meaning of no and goes on a revenge filled massacre of asshole after asshole. Great movie, 10/10, no notes, totally nothing to do with Keanu reaves playing the titular character.
Big Trouble in Little China
The original "Italian Job" with Michael Caine. Simple heist movie- with a 45 minute car chase.
Also, the original "Gone in 60 Seconds." A 90 minute car chase.
Finally, I will never NOT watch "The Great Escape ". McQueen on a bike. 'Nuff said.
That’s a hard one. Do you mean like real life politics, or politics specifically to the fictional universe?
Who else scrolls all the way down to read the comments. 😁
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but ALL film is in and of itself political. All drama, since the time of its inception, is making a statement about life and society.
How is space balls political?
Star Wars 1-6
Just because it was a childhood favourite I loved the Swan Princess 1994. Beautiful hand drawn animation, witty humour, John Cleese doing an awful French accent, lovely and funny songs, wholesome and interesting story, where characters actually grow and had plot arcs.
Classic
UHF
This idea that a movie can be "non-political" doesnt make sense to me. The phrase "everything is politics" is like a hundred years old. And it's truer now than ever. Your choice about whether to buy a candy bar has political repercussions. No matter how irrelevant the thing might seem, it's political. Every movie ever made is political.
Barbie Movie………..
/s Relax I’m kidding, it’s a very political movie, but still couldn’t help myself from making the joke
Secondhand Lions. Very fun.
Basically every romance movie. Josee the Tiger and the Fish A Silent Voice Your Name
“ALl ARt iS PoliTICaL”
Fifth element
Beau is afraid
Gojira!!!
Most movies have always had politics in them, even ones released before you were born.
The only difference being that media actually pays attention and points out the political messaging in today’s movies.
No such thing as a non-political piece of media
Tron. Both 1982 and Legacy (not sure about Ares yet) along with Sky High and The Pacifier if you have kids.
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
(remembers that it's an allegory about the fall of the Soviet Union complete with Chernobyl starring as the Klingon powerplant moon of Praxis)
...never mind.
The original star wars.
Ratatouille. It's a rat and there's food. Done.
Politics are fine in a film as long as it’s well down.
John wick
Lol you guys look dumb af
Trump the movie 2024, definitely non political fiction 🤣
The only true -non-political trilogy .
Lady Ballers
HA a good 99% of movies are political in one way shape or form, because even kids movies try to tell a point about society from the Lorax to hacksaw ridge, all story’s say something about society weather that be social, moral, environmental, intersocial, economical or emotional.
13th warrior
Lord of the Rings