Stopping P25 does not depend on a performance in a debate. It's up to us, we the people! First and foremost, vote blue across the ballot! If Trump and the MAGA Republicans control the government in January, we will have to come up with a different strategy than simply voting blue. Heritage Foundation et al. are not hiding what their long-term goals are. We can read it, we can search it. First, alerting people to what's in this corrupt, authoritarian plan, esp., on topics that directly affect them and their families, friends and co-workers. Then, civil disobedience, labor strikes, slowdowns by government workers, if that's what it takes.