Found the incel!

They're what we used to call BJFs. IYKYK.

Let me guess? You couldn't really handle the job, thought you were better than it and decided everyone else was the idiot when your genius ideas were rejected and you were pushed out?

That is a small town thing. There is a reason they cook in Phoenix and not a city with any culture or wealth. Big fish in small ponds almost always overestimate their talents. If they were that good, they'd be serving obscure ingredients to celebrities in Vegas or LA. They suck, so they have to big themselves up (and probably do a lot of coke) to get out of bed and do that shit job everyday.

Restaurant owners make pennies on the dollar. Tell me you have no fucking clue what you're talking about without telling me. Most restaurants fail because people like you go into it thinking they will be rich with very little effort. They quit when they realize you are budgeting down to the penny and have to work 100 hours a week for the first five years before you turn a profit. Anyone who has ever been successful in a restaurant knows bartenders make the most money in the business by far.

Confirmed troll. Yawn.

These are not the true scholars of Tudor history. The real ones have PhDs. No one wants to listen to them though, because the reality is that the answer to 99% of the questions we have is "We just don't know".

They are just cashing in on the poorly educated fangirls who are obsessed with the aesthetic of the Tudor era, but have no interest in the history. And before someone starts in with "iT's SuPpOsEd To Be ArT!" Maybe don't make up nonsense about a child who was executed for things that were entirely outside her control. Would you be okay with me writing a bunch of made up nonsense about your child if they died tragically? No? They why are you using someone else's child's death for entertainment? The genre of fantasy exists for a reason. Use fictional character to make your point, not real ones. Just because someone is famous doesn't mean their legacy becomes public property.

There are contemporary accounts that say Henry and Anne did indeed celebrate CoA's death. Henry did weep when he read CoA's final letter to him, but he quickly recovered and went on to have a feast and dancing. They were relieved, not shamed.

I regularly get downvoted in here for pointing out what actual primary sources have said on the subject because it doesn't fit the romance novel fantasy opinions of the fangirls here. It's frustrating. Real people's lives aren't something you should lie about for fun. It is the historical equivalent of tabloids.

You are hooked on something that is no more realistic than a fantasy novel, then. The real history is more interesting and relevant to our times than the made up (and usually misogynistic) nonsense in fiction books. Great, it got you into the time period. Now don't you want to sound even halfway competent when talking about it? Real scholars will think you are a bit dim if you start parroting things novelists made up to sell a sexy story.

I think it muddies the water and is disrespectful to the actual human beings who lived, suffered and died and now can't defend themselves. Those books are the historical equivalent of tabloids. They can be fun, but they are intellectually vapid. They should not be brought up in the context of talking about real people who had real lives. Way too many people have a ton of misconceptions about these figures and their lives now. Life is not a soap opera or romance novel.

Obvious incel ragebait is obvious. This was written as a "gotcha". See, women really do only want a mythical Chad and only settle for "betas" to use them and cheat on them. How do you do, fellow women?

If you fell for this, it's time to go outside and touch grass.

But not the only one who had one, the rest just left them in their cars because now they worship politics and wear red hats. Which is hilarious, considering that Trump is a city boy who would put on gloves before he shook their hand.

Spending a fortune on a day so you can feel like a tyrant over people's lives always makes you the Ahole. No one actually cares that you are getting married. People go because they want to be polite. They can't wait to leave and never wanted to go through the hassle. Asking people to spend money on clothes, travel, accommodations and gifts makes you an ahole. I can't wait until "my special day" weddings finally die out. Wedding receptions are essentially a gift to the guests who had to give up a weekend to pretend to care that you, a person who has likely been living with and sleeping with your partner for years already, are finally making it official. No one cares. It isn't special. You are wasting money on a day to feed your ego. Don't expect everyone in your life to care like you do. The entire concept of the reception comes from the past when people had to travel by horse or foot and literally couldn't go back to their own homes the night of the wedding. It was about hospitality, not narcissistically celebrating yourself. I hope we go back to that someday.

I don't know who needs to hear this, but the idea that you get to be king and queen for a weekend because you decided to get married is false and vapid. No one cares how much money you spent, it doesn't mean you get to dictate how other people spend their time or money. You are not that important and everyone in your life respects you a little less if you act like this for your wedding. You can reeeee and cry, but you're still vapid and self-absorbed for this.

I can't imagine being this self absorbed. Wedding receptions are for the guests. You aren't actually a princess for a day. The ceremony is for the couple. The reception is for the guests who don't actually want to waste their weekend, but do so to be nice.

AKA people want the guests to pay for the wedding. Tacky and stupid. No one wants to waste their whole weekend pretending to care about your wedding as it is. The whole point of the reception was originally a gift to the guests for giving up so much time for something they don't gaf about. Why do people think receptions are for the bride and groom? No. The ceremony is for them. The reception is to thank the guests. What ever happened to manners? Everyone is so greedy these days.

Allison Weir is like the tabloid version of a historian. Look for people with an actual PhD in English history if you want a real idea of what we actually know of these figures. Weir fills in a lot of the blanks with her own opinions.

Henry's subjects did indeed call him "good King Hal". Try cracking open a history book.

Robert Baratheon was inspired by Henry's grandfather Edward IV. Edward never lost a battle in his life and was a great warrior in his youth, but became drunk and obese in his 30's and died in his early 40's.

George IV was never handsome or thin. No one ever liked him, either. Where do people get these made up fantasies?

Why do people ignore historians who all disagree on this point? Novelists and tv show runners aren't trying to tell the truth. Stop buying into it. Henry had done tons of psychopathic things BEFORE he fell and hit his head. Read actual primary sources, not novels.

He was also almost certainly diabetic, which is why the leg never healed. His diet was trash even before he fell from the horse.

The myth is that he was ever charming or charismatic. He was a psychopath from day one. His first official act was to have his father's advisors executed. He was always delusional about how brilliant he was. Who was going to tell him otherwise? Have you actually read his writings from his earlier years? His defense of Catholicism was shallow at best, and simply parroted back the talking points the church expected of him. He was no great scholar. Sure, he was well educated compared to the average citizen or even the average noble, but he was no Erasmus or Moore. There is a reason Erasmus cultivated a closer relationship with Catherine of Aragon and why Moore disagreed with Henry when he broke from the church. Henry was a blowhard surrounded by yes-men.

He was not well loved, he was feared. Many historians agree that the apex of English absolute power was during his reign. He was a tyrant who killed anyone who injured his fragile ego. This resulted in the deaths of at least 70,000 of his own subjects.

As to how handsome he was, again, how can you really believe the pandering lies of his courtiers and ambassadors? His youthful portraits show an average looking man with the classic wonky Plantagenet eye. HIs gaze is rather unfixed and dim-witted. Contemporaries did say he was handsome, though honest ones admitted that Francis, King of France was the more handsome of the two. The fact that so many fixated on his calves tells me that they had to find something to compliment.

Henry's look was average, but he was a monster from his very first act. If you need his contemporaries to write that out in clear language to understand that, then you need to spend more time learning how to decipher between the lines of primary source documents. Contemporaries claimed that Anne of Cleves was ugly and horse-like because the person who paid them wanted to hear that. The same is true of people who said Henry was handsome. He paid their bills. Of course they would flatter him. The fact that they felt they needed to flatter him says a lot about their fear of him. Read between the lines.