www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-military-was-following-legal-orders-to-try-to-rescue-afghan/
Canadian military was following ‘legal orders’ to try to rescue Afghan Sikhs, Gen. Eyre says
Exactly. The military did nothing wrong but the Minister of Defence did. I wonder how we can hold him responsible, even if it wasn't illegal. A routine Tsk tsk wouldn't seem sufficient.
Hold an inquiry to thoroughly embarrass his party, keep it in popular discussion, and then vote against his party, this creates real political consequences that future leaders will be aware of.
This is the same way we always hold ministers accountable.
I'm surprised this needs to be explained to people. But I have to check myself because I'm in the reserve army and the concept of orders is something I'm extensively familiar with.
Thank you for your service unfortunate_sex_fart 🫡
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Helping them immigrate and leaving behind Canadians to focus on them as more important than people with ties to Canada are two extremely different positions.
Had they remained appropriately on the priority list, no one would have objected to the operation.
I don't think the argument against the order was that it was illegal. I think the argument was it an order that showed very poor judgment and was not in the national interest.
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This is exactly what he is saying as Sajjan is arguing they were simply suggestions - which is false. The military received directions from the MND which might as well be orders as the military are bound to civilian authority. Sajjan completely abused his power.
If the MND makes a "suggestion", it's not optional.
reminds me of my boss. he reviewed some work me and someone else was doing. we wanted to do X, he wanted to do Y. he made it pretty clear to do it Y.
we did it Y, it didnt go well. then afterwords, he weaseled his way out of it by saying it was "only a suggestion, it wasnt MY project. you need to know what the difference is between a suggestion and order"
i lost every ounce of respect at that moment for him. and now i tell every person i work with on a project under him, that it will be your name on the project, not his. so do what youre comfortable with, and get things in writing.
this is basically they same thing. a boss trying to save themselves by fucking their underlings.
What a fucking weasel man, absolute coward. How don people like that live with themselves.
They live comfortably using taxpayer money
Sajjan learned how to abuse power from the boss.
Someone got a kick back someplace????
Please elaborate. Elaborate means, explain further.
treason, it was treason
Technically not treason. Treason is actively helping ones enemies, this was just not helping Canadians and instead helping sikhs. It's a granular distinction but it is different.
Edit: I DID think it was us acting in cooperation with a NATO ally but I didn't realize India isn't part of NATO
You don't understand what treason is if you think this qualifies.
This is treason. Making an order against the best interest of your country is treason.
This is like the tools who are trying to say the MPs conspiring against our country with foreign governments didn’t commit treason.
You need to read what treason is before claiming treason. There’s legal definition for it.
You are just playing down treason.
This is abuse of power.
The effort put behind saving the Sikhs could've been utilized in saving Canadians. If this is not treason, i don't know what is.
Treason: the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
Is this not a betrayal of one’s country to put others before Canadians? It’s right there.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html
Section 46-1 and 46-2 of the Criminal Code is pretty clear as to what treason entails.
Douche move and an abuse of his position for sure, but not treason.
(1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,
(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
- (a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
- (b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
- (c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
- (d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
- (e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
The problem with this behaviour is that it sows the seeds of division. Everyone in Canada is an immigrant with the exception of First Nations, but even then they did not just pop out of the ground and would have themselves migrated here long ago.
Because we all have a common immigrant origin we pride ourselves on welcoming people with open arms to come to Canada to make a better life for themselves. As soon as you have a Canadian passport then in the eyes of Canadians you are now a Canadian and existing Canadians celebrate the fact that you are now officially Canadian.
But the only reason they do that is that it’s accepted that you now class Canada as your home nation and any other affiliations to your country of origin now come secondary.
Canada is also a secular nation and that helps to integrate all without the chance of religious bigotry interfering with that integration process.
Canada has no problem with your ethnic origin, religion, sexual orientation etc. But the one thing that is expected of you is that now that you are Canadian you put the interest of Canadians first, irrespective of your background. For someone in a position of power to prioritise their religious, ethnic affiliations over Canadians is pretty much the highest crime in the eyes of most Canadians.
This country works so well and was previously a bastion of how to do immigration right. This guy is going to ruin the social cohesion of this nation with his actions and he needs to be severely punished and made an example of to show that this will not be tolerated. If this does not happen I am genuinely worried of what will become of this nation.
100%, I could not have said it better.
Thanks for posting that. I guess the general definition of traitor from a moral standpoint rings true in this instance, but if you go by the wording and letter of the law then you are correct.
I think you're overestimating how many people agree with your "general definition" and are just afraid to admit that you're wrong and it's not actually treason. Words mean what they mean and while it may be morally reprehensible it is not treason by any stretch. It just isn't.
Treason is a soft synonym for betrayal, so yeah, you will find many people unfamiliar with the exact legal definition in Canada throwing it around here. May as well get upset about people misusing slander vs libel while you're at it.
You're coming at this guy pretty hard for "being wrong" but this is confusion over prescriptive and descriptive use of a very common term, and I think he pretty amicably admitted he was unaware of its legal requirements.
For what it's worth, the legal definition is indeed the one we should be using here, so while you are right, you're also kind of an asshole.
Perhaps that’s just my interpretation and I did make a general statement. But if you leave out legal wording, which not many people reference in general discussion, then the generally accepted definition of treason is understood to be betraying one’s nation. Perhaps traitor is a better term to describe this person
I have no issue admitting when I am wrong. You may want to review your original comment. “You don’t understand what treason is if you think this is it”
You made a general comment on “understanding”. You did not say that you do not understand the legal definition. You may want to be more concise, as your statement mentions nothing of the legal definition.
I posted the Oxford English Dictionary definition, which seams appropriate for a general discussion thread. If this was a legal thread then maybe it would be implied that’s what you meant, but as it’s not I think it’s fair to go with the general definition of the term “treason”
Interesting you don't consider what you might be in the situation you're describing. Because I agree with that guy, it might not be treason legally but it is absolutely treason in every other way except by legal definition.
bro. putting others before yourself is the entire Creed of the military.
it literally goes “ my mission, my men, my weapon myself”
This is all about Sajjan. Of course the military are just following orders.
Settle down Jim Bob.
Exactly. He's saying the order wasn't his order, so it had to be somebody able to order him, which is a pretty short list.
The military has to follow legal orders even if they’re unethical. Law is much more objective. Ethics are very subjective and vary widely based on culture. Military leaders could consider something unethical and civilian political leadership could consider it completely ethical. Civilian leaders aren’t bound by CAF ethics regulations, only CAF members are.
This is an issue of the MND having lawful authority over CAF operations and he issued unethical but lawful orders. If the Canadian public object to this, they have the opportunity to voice their displeasure at the ballot box.
Imagine having the balls to save Canadians and facing the consequences.
The side line perspective is, This was an American political move to screw this operation up. Canadian intelligence and Military actions should not have been tide up in this. Canadians should have been pulled out prior to the event and Our military should have been there to support anyone in need not just Sihks.
That what happens when leaders are following their personal interests and not countries interests.
There were many more high-value rescues that needed to be prioritized, like our own translators and people who helped Canadian forces who were left to be killed by the Taliban.
Putting a random group of people above our allies is treason, and it's total self-interest.
In Canada Global Affairs Canada and Ambassadors are in charge of evacuations, not the military. The military follows GAC direction.
In the US it is the military in charge of evacuations. Biden flipped it for the Afghan evacuation in 2021 and put US Department of State in charge. Chaos ensued.
That is the Canadian standard, to choose the chaotic approach that is proven to be dis functional
Yep thats pretty much the case for every country. Foreign Ministry dictates what happens and the military is there to carry out their orders.
No they run it at the operational level, and some of the tactical level. That is not a great situation.
I think this means that it was a live order and understood as a direct order and not some BS suggestion in the event that they found themselves in the area like this traitor (the guy who gave the order) is trying to paint.
Poor judgement is an understatement. This is twice in the past month top government officials have approached the line on treason
Decisions are taken in the interest of who owns the government
I think I need more info before making a judgement here.
Like did this order come alongside an order to rescue Christian and Shia minorities? Because that would make a lot more sense.
Over people who worked with us and helped us? And passport-carrying Canadians. WTF.
Why would people in those war torn circumstances feel compelled to loyally help us, often at cost to themselves, if we're going to abandon them so we could save people who haven't helped us and have no ties to us except the same tribe as a politician. (Edit: Canadians)
I agree more information would be helpful but governments in general and this government in particular are not terribly enthusiastic about providing more information especially when it might be embarrassing.
I’m going with there’s a screw up because of course we have had little, the government brags when something is positive; and keep quiet, provide vague details, don’t answer questions or answer questions related to some unrelated topic when they have f‘up.
He prioritized his religion over Canadian lives he swore and was responsible to protect, not a Canadian, he should be stood down from his current posting government pending a criminal investigation into gross misconduct
The weird part about this is Canada bending over backwards to rescue these people over passport carrying Canadians and Afghans who helped Canada, when India (who is more than militarily capable of rescuing them) is almost next door. Why not pick up the phone and let them know that they can repatriate some people back to their homeland.
What's the over/under on them actually being khalistani radicals?
Why would Indians rescue non Indians? These skihs were Afghan. World works on nationality not religion.
Well, to be fair, apparently not.
India did evacuate Hundreds of them. However afterwards those Afghan sikha voluntarily migrated to Canada.
Voluntarily?
How the fuck do hundreds of Afghan nationals get a free pass from India to Canada? Student visas?
Tim Hortons needed people to work the drive thru at night
Lets be honest here.
Jagmeet Singh wanted more people to fill the roads and wave Khalistan flag so that he can become the Pope of Khalistan quicker (becoming PM of Canada doesn't seem to be working for him)
Who will pour your coffee?
Justin treadu doesn’t remember😔
Justin Trudeau has other more important things he should remember.
One thing he should remember is his father's walk in the snow. It could serve as an important inspiration for him.
My point is more that these people had more of a tie to India than Canada given that that's their original homeland, so why should Canada have even entertained the request when they were actual allies who ended up being left behind.
India has no more responsibility for them than Ireland does.
Oh yeah cause India has always treated Sikhs so well
Repatriate? I think the rescued Sikhs aren’t Indian citizens. They are Afghani Sikhs… with Afghani Citizenship… India isn’t in the picture here…
India was in the picture here because India was the country who ultimately rescued them.
Wasn’t there a big blow up in the media about a bill being passed in India which would remove barriers for minorities of neighbouring countries coming in as refugees to acquire citizenship? From what I remember, it was opposed and deemed Islamophobic. So I guess they don’t want to seek refuge in India, considering the opposition came from the party that’s in power in Punjab.
These Sikhs and Hindus are Afghans and not Indians. And India already arranged a rescue mission to save more Hindus and Sikhs than Canada. More than that, despite liberals calling the government as fascist, despite violent protest, the Indian govt passed laws to provide easy path of citizenship for Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists from nations like Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
India doesn’t have soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan like Canada does. Furthermore, just because they are Sikhs or Hindus doesn’t mean India has an obligation to rescue them. Also, if you read the article it says Afghan Sikhs were NOT prioritized over Canadians or people with significant links to Canada.
India doesn’t have soldiers on the ground in Afghanistan like Canada does.
Canada hadn't had soldiers in Afghanistan for 8 years before Operation AEGIS. CAF returned to the country during August 2021 to assist with the airlift.
Canada did not have troops on the ground in Afghanistan in 2021. We had to send them there specifically to help with the evacuation.
He prioritized his vote bank.
Every one of these people does the same everywhere they go. It’s borderline creepy and gives off low IQ society vibe.
lol goodluck.
Your gonna see a lot more of this kind of thing come out in the next couple years , little ethnic enclaves who have people working on behalf of them not seeing themselves as Canadians first and foremost
Lebanon 2.0
Yep. Somebody go ask Lebanon - who had a collective government jointly run by Christians, Sunni and Shiite Muslims - what happened when they let in a bunch of Palestinians.
Oddly enough enough during the run up to the Holocaust many countries rejected Jewish refugees because of antisemitic concerns over dual loyalty (among many others).
"Oh look at those Jews. No one else is accepting them because they have a history of importing problems! Just ask Germany what happens when you let in too many Jews!" Quite sad that you don't see the irony.
Underrated comment
The guy was born and brought up here, it’s not like he was first gen immigrant.
If people born here, go to school here, are brought up here don’t feel they are Canadian enough, then something is wrong with the schooling system.
American schooling hammers “American-ness” and pride in being an American to its students. Even if your parents can’t speak a word of English, the kids brought up there will become very “American” and see themselves as American first.
Canadians and the school system needs to teach their kids to be proud of being Canadian, and Instil a national Canadian identity
The guy was born and brought up here, it’s not like he was first gen immigrant.
Sajjan is a first generation immigrant. He was born in Bombeli, Punjab, India. You're right to say that he was raised here, though. His family moved here when he was five years old.
Unfortunately, much of what is considered Candian national identity is being directly the opposite of the guys south of the border, i.e. multiculturalism vs. melting pot.
It's extra hard on 1st generation immigrants, their parents get even more ethnic once they splashdown in our culture, so the children go thru hell trying to be normal Canadians while having the old country values forced kn them, usually it takes at least two if not three generations to shed the old country baggage. Depends on the original immigrants and whether they ghettoize themselves, or go ahead and try to fit in. My father in law was Pakistani and he was the only brown guy in his neighborhood, he was eventually embraced and just another guy on the street, but he knew what he was doing, he was a credited psychologist, not a cab driver or cart pusher at Walmart.
This is what Trudeau’s Post Nationalism equates to. Canada is something different everyday. It’s an empty container.
The Canada experiment: is this the world's first 'postnational' country?
If you think Trudeau's policies that don't have jurisdiction over education, impacted the education of someone older than Trudeau, do you really have a brain?
Trudeau first changed Canada's biculturalism to multiculturalism in the early 70s. It did impact education
Trudeau first changed Canada's biculturalism to multiculturalism in the early 70s. It did impact education.
What the fuck are you talking about lol
We’re a “post national state” so I wouldn’t hold my breath on that happening any time soon , this is simply the end result of that . If there is no greater national identity of course people will fall back on their blood roots it’s just human nature , it takes a particularly educated idiot to not see it coming .
A lot has to do with home life. There are many families (Italians for instance) that live, in their minds and hearts, like “the old country”. Italians have had a strong impact on Canadian culture so we overlook it, but it’s a matter of households and not just schools.
Oh man. Italian guy at work, born here, spent his whole life here. Constantly refers to Italy as “back home”. They’re the worst
Most Meds do this.
Ya, true. Remember my aunts boyfriend always going on about fuckin Greece
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You're quoting Eyre not Sajjan in the article. ' In an interview with The Canadian Press, Eyre said the military was following “legal orders” when it made an effort to specifically help the group of Afghan Sikhs.' Then it goes on for Eyre to explain what you allude to Saijjan.
Sajjan is the government, and you misquoted the article to make it seem like he said something that was actually said by Eyre.
Your gonna see a lot more of this kind of thing come out in the next couple years , little ethnic enclaves who have people working on behalf of them not seeing themselves as Canadians first and foremost
Wait how exactly does helping a group escape Kabul make anyone less Canadian?
From the article:
Canada and other countries also sought to help members of groups they designated as at risk of persecution from the terrorist organization, including women leaders, human rights defenders, journalists and religious minorities.
I'd like to think of Canadians as folks who would help someone in need. So it seems to me like it's pretty damn Canadian.
The fuck is wrong with the people in this thread? So against helping folks who need help. It's fuckin vile, take a long look at yourselves in the mirror
Harjit is trying to weasel out of this, but the military understands hierarchy and is very careful about following orders.
Yes prioritising non Canadians over Canadians or Afghans who helped Canadians are bullshit orders
The article doesn't say they were prioritized though.
Other articles on this topic mention that military on the ground felt resources were being diverted
OK
Everyone knows this guy is a liar and just calls people racist anytime his shenanigans are exposed.
That what was the worst thing about his response. It just focused on calling everyone else racists with no real substance.
Playing the garbage race card from a garbage politician.
A garbage human scumbag
He went on 4 tours for the Canadian forces, 3 to Afghanistan, then served in the Vancouver PD for 11 years. Disrespect he is getting is disgusting.
He's the architect of Op Medusa for christ's sake!
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We follow legal direction and the groups that were listed were part of … approved groups, so we got on with it.” He added it’s not up to him to say “whether the government priority was right or wrong.” “We had the list from (Immigration, Refugee and Citizenship Canada) and we were just getting on.”
He isn't saying Sajjan prioritizing those Afghan Sikhs was the right thing to do, just that it wasn't illegal. But nobody alleged that it was illegal in the first place.
There was no doubt that Sikhs, being a very visible minority, would continue to be the target of attacks, World Sikh Organization president Danish Singh said in a statement. “The attempts to evacuate Afghan Sikhs and Hindus were not about favouritism but about responding to an urgent humanitarian crisis.”
It was absolutely about favoritism of a group which happened to share a religion with a large block of Liberal supporters in the run up to the 2021 election.
There was no doubt that Sikhs, being a very visible minority, would continue to be the target of attacks,
Yes I am sure the 1200 Canadians and the 1000 interpreters that helped Canada and where left behind would be completely safe
As we all know Canadians blend very well in Taliban occupied Afghanistan!!
Presumably most of them are Afghan Canadians. Weird that you heard Canadian and thought white though
Weird I didn’t say white but you heard it. I guess for you Canadians can only be white, huh?!🤔
Anyway got anything to back up your tall claims that only afghan Canadians were deployed and absolutely no other race contributed from Canada?
All arguments can end here. This is as concise of an analysis as we need.
I hope we start to make our employees - the politicians - accountable for their decisions and actions. It’s now been proven that they were acting upon orders, we can press farther to find out who gave the orders.
We cannot allow them to go off book and save friends over actual Canadian citizens. This should be punishable and we need to stand firm
Let Canadians die while prioritizing AFGHAN Sikhs and Hindus… let that sink in. This guy said: “The Canadians and Afghans who directly aided Canada in Afghanistan can get fucked, we need to save these people from my religion who have no ties to the country. I now command our Canadian military to focus only on this task.”
No - the calculus was "The Liberals will curry favour with the immigrant Sikhs in Canada and helping these NON-Canadians will get the Liberals MORE votes than helping the Afghan interpreters who worked with Canadian military."
Every decision this government makes is about trying to get votes, not trying to do what's best for the country. They only care about two things - getting elected and getting re-elected. Fuck the country otherwise.
this government
Every government.
The article doesn’t mention evacuation of any other specific religious group except for Sikhs… unless there’s more to it which would be even more concerning.
But it doesn't say they were prioritized??
Just trying to put a number to it. How many Canadians died trying to flee?
Edit: downvoted for trying to ascertain how many poor souls were lost.
Should have said “Left Canadians to die…”
According to this article, at the time of the withdrawal, Canada had helped 3700 people evacuate Kabul. It said however, that they had received over 8000 requests for evacuation. So, while they say that ‘numbers are unclear,’ it’s easy to see that thousands of Canadian citizens, permanent residents and family members were left behind. Meanwhile, Canadian resources were turned to specifically help Hindus and Sikhs regardless of nationality. That’s traitorous to Canadians and clear religious favouritism, especially when they share the religion of the man sending the order. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6153899
The sole fact that the man giving the orders shared the religion with the non-Canadians who were made an evacuation priority is a blatant conflict of interest.
Thanks just read it. It said 2/3's of the 8000 were processed. Hopefully the rest were able to make it.
There are more Sikhs in the Canadian government than there are Sikhs in the Indian government.
I would never put blame on the general.
LPC is so corrupt that Canadians have died in direct result
We should give our heads a shake if we are debating the loopholes and word of law defining treason .
What other first world country has a ruling government suspected for multiple treasonous acts? The Canadian government should be held to a higher standard and not this grey area bullshit around treason. It’s disgusting that anyone would defend this criminal organization called the LPC
Canada is a dumpster fire
Treason.
And the Canadian Armed Forces is wondering why they are struggling to attract new recruits while simultaneously putting people’s lives at risk for issues outside of our national interests.
And now the lives of any soldiers they do get will be more at risk, since everybody knows if you work with them, they won't protect you if you're not the right religion.
They are now accepting non-PR immigrants into the CAF. They are very desperate for people
Just wait until their loyalty is put to the test!
So unusual:
"Sajjan said that in the weeks leading up to the siege, Canada expanded a partnership with the Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation, an Alberta-based charity that was trying to help resettle hundreds of persecuted Afghan Sikhs and Hindus.
The foundation had identified more than 200 Afghan Sikhs who were in Afghanistan and wanted to leave. It provided their names to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada, which was helping with the required paperwork."
That a tiny foundation from Alberta had all this pull is something I would like explained.
I would also like it explained why there is so little activity in the foundation across the years they were supposedly resettling hundreds of Sikhs: https://www.charitydata.ca/charity/manmeet-singh-bhullar-charitable-foundation/787660927RR0001/
The numbers and the story do not seem to match?
Smells like treason.
In a multicultural society democracy is nothing more than a racial head count
If your ever wondering how to do something wrong, just ask yourself, what would a liberal do?
Religious discrimination. Sajjan put people of his religion ahead of other people, solely on the basis of religion. How is this not obvious? It was 2023 and a Minister discriminated on religious grounds.
Could you imagine if a Christian, Jewish or Muslim minister said, “No. No. Put my religion first?
It’s not illegal to add Sikhs to a list of vulnerable afghans along side Canadians. However, it’s clearly immoral to prioritise them over Canadians or other Canadian linked individuals. Eyre confirms that he received orders to save them.
How does Canada have a Humanitarian or any other obligation to evacuate Afghan Sikhs? If we allow other countries or Canadian representatives of those countries to assign obligations to us we are in very deep trouble. The obligation is to evacuate Canadians anything above that is optional and dependant on available resources nothing more.
lmao the absolute state of c*nada
How many other 'special' groups was the CAF directed to directly assist?
Figures that this kind of disgusting discrimination comes from a Khalistan sympathizer, where Canadians are treated as expendable 2nd classes.
This is solely a political decision. The bad actors should be held accountable
Why is anyone surprised. If you are Canadian, your country does not care about you.. They care about Ukraine and India, and any other causes than supporting actual citizens first. They take our money and give it away to someone else. They let homeless Canadians sleep outside but can out up refugees in hotel rooms. This country is disgusting.
Legal does not equal proper.
Our military is in worse shape than I thought with the meddling of corrupt leaders at the helm. We are not in any way shape or form prepared for a world-scale war.
"What I did was technically legal" should be a crime in itself.
How many deserving people lost the opportunity to escape while JT1 were searching for his seeks on the failed attempt.
Disgusting.......the official fall of Canada to the Kingdom of India
He was putting his ethnic group ahead of Canadians. I want to ask if his decision was approved by Trudeau and/or the cabinet. What a shame!!
Saving Afghan Sikh’s over Canadian citizens is treason, seems to be a common theme amongst the Liberals.
Hey, at least Sajjan didn’t prioritize the rescue of carpets
Could always be worse
That was very Canadian of him. Thinking about everyone else but ourselves.
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They were rescued by India, as the operation this gentlemen ordered did not complete or something
In another article, it detailed that CANSOFCOM personnel had gone into the city to try and locate them, but when they showed up at the meeting spot, the Sikhs had gotten skittish and left already.
An elected official put forigners over his own people. He needs to step down.
I am so. bloody. sick. of canada needing to be for the world. I will never own a home in this country. I have worked all my life. I could easily life here 10 years ago. Now I need to be bisexual in order to be equal, otherwise I am viewed by the color of my skin and not the content of my character because of Critical Race Theory.
13 years ago I told my family I was getting terrified of muslim extremists because there are a LOT of them online. They painted me as racist. Told me all religons have extremists. I'm still waiting for a christian or jewish action the same as Oct 7th. I watched the body cam video of the fallen terrorists. If you hate me at this point, I bet you didn't
No
So, who exactly lost their lives directly at the cost of these Afghan sikhs rescue? Details are important.
Not one CONservative in Canada knows what an Afghan Sikh is. Not one.
When you Keep putting people in power that don look like you and aren't native dont be surprised when they aren't for your best interests
"Légal"
May be they should deport then what they have brought it in cause it was an abuse of his power.
I'm sorry, is anyone reading this article?
Sajjan said the priority was “first and foremost” to evacuate Canadians, Afghan translators and those with “significant links to Canada.” “This was our main effort,” he said. “The evacuation and resettlement of other vulnerable populations, including Sikhs, was also a government priority.”
I used to think it was almost unbelievable that Canada was so reluctant to offer help to Jewish people in WW2, but recent years have convinced me that attitude is a quintessentially Canadian one, and most Canadians would turn away people in that position again today
You're taking Sajjan's word as gospel.
I'd argue that everyone here has no objection to rescuing a group of people who are at risk of grave harm. However, when you are evacuating thousands of people from a situation such as this, you must prioritize your citizens first and then the non-citizens who put their lives on the line to aid Canada a very close second. Everything else can come after those first 2 things are taken care of. What appears to be the case here is that Sajjan instructed our armed forces to go after a special interest group, which coincidentally shared the then-minister's own religious beliefs, and make them a priority as well. That's what we call a conflict of interest, and I also believe Sajjan is downplaying just how much of a priority they were made too, because many Canadians and those that helped Canada were left behind. I would rather expect "the architect of Op Medusa" to bend the truth.
People are right to be upset at this.
but recent years have convinced me that attitude is a quintessentially Canadian one, and most Canadians would turn away people in that position again today
If it came down to a rescue operation, most people would prefer to prioritize getting their nationals and allies first. Keep in mind 1000's of Afghans who literally risked their and their families lives to help Canadian troops and NGOs were left behind.
That should've taken priority over some request from a religious organization.
Indian bots have taken over this board pretending to be Canadian.
The orders were pretty clear and on line with Canadian international policies. Canada first and peace keeping globally.
Foreign interference affecting Canadian topics again.
How is everyone here allowed to vote? It clearly states that Canadians and the interpreters that helped Canadians were the first priority, it just was that other vulnerable ethnic groups were also made to be priority as well. Are you guys dim? What a false outrage
Same priority class > opportunity cost
I think this is the argument being made.
You're very rude, and you're part of every idiot here who thinks article constitutes sufficient information to support the claims they are making.
You're part of what's wrong with what you see to be wrong. Fun shit, eh?
Exactly what I’m thinking. No one reads articles anymore. Everyone only wants to read headlines just to falsely reinforce whatever preconceived notions they already held
This isnt the first article on the topic
Yeah this is some creepy shit ….not a single comment above yours actually read the article. It’s frightening how quickly people turn into mindless drones when the algos feed the outrage.
Classic 'just following orders'.
Better add a 'legal' in there to make it sound not-so-racist.
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Nobody is saying our soldiers did the wrong thing. We’re saying our government ordering our soldiers to do this was wrong.
There’s a difference. The soldiers followed legal orders and did the job asked of them. Those orders just never should have been issued to them from the Minister of Defense