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I'll buy that he collapsed because he electrocuted himself not necessarily because he was low on chakra.... but then he was so numb and exhausted that he could shortly thereafter summon, genjutsu and reverse summon manda no problem? Either way it's spun that ending was too poorly done. Still one of the best fights for me and deidaras death was so in character it actually didn't spoil it for me but facts is facts sasukes final move was the one blemish on a damn good tactical scuffle

His Sharingan went off. Intentionally or not that is a sign of low chakra.

Sasuke collapsed on the floor. That is a sign of low chakra.

Sasuke had been doing a lot of ninjutsu and taijutsu and genjutsu in the fight. That will run you chakra down.

In any case. Who cares about the chakra, we just mention it because it is there to be mentioned.

The actual asspull is the ridiculous hand wave of him doing 3 things at once and getting it all done before an instantaneous explosion kabooms him to smithereens. You know its a ridiculous asspull when the author shows it off screen......because its impossible to logically show it onscreen. It does not make any sense at all. Let me show you how it looks:

Deidara: KatZ!

explosion

Sasuke: summons Manda

Sasuke: launches genjutsu

Sasuke: Jumps inside Manda

explosion partially damages Manda

Sasuke: Reverse Summon to snake land

Suigetsu: summons them back

That's what we're supposed to accept?

How is this possible?

What's most annoying is people clinging to the chakra argument but won't talk about the fact the rest of the asspull is undeniable. A bomb is faster doing all of what sauske did, chakra or not, you can't just summon manda on low chakra, it takes a lot of chakra to do that and in any case there's just no time with a bomb going off in your face. It was an asspull the likes of which we had never seen.

What's most annoying is people clinging to the chakra argument but won't talk about the fact the rest of the asspull is undeniable. A bomb is faster doing all of what sauske did, chakra or not, you can't just summon manda on low chakra, it takes a lot of chakra to do that and in any case there's just no time with a bomb going off in your face. It was an asspull the likes of which we had never seen.

Its an asspull of epic proportions. The speed thing alone makes it a joke. I read the chapter and I was like OK Which do you think happens faster?

A) An atomic bomb Or B) Summoning a giant snake he did not have the chakra for, placing said snake in a genjutsu, hiding inside said snake.

WHAT ABSOLUTE ASSPULLERY

Bug dude is right Dog dude is even righter Lemme save her some time:

Tsunade: Big boobs Sai: weirdo Hiruzen: Old guy older than Jiraiya

Hiruzen is actually #1 by knowledge. They call him the professor. He knows everything. All five chakra natures. Man is a beast with a beast of a Summoning. Who would have even been able to stop the 3rd coffin from coming up. My guy knew how to counter edo tensei. That alone was a crazy feat. We never see Prime Hirizen because he would simply be too OP.

Hashirama is #1 by feats. I won't go into it. His DNA alone is a cheat code for anything.

Minato is #1 by speed. I mean if you can't lay a finger on the guy what can you do? Who is beating him? How?

Tobirama is cool combination of everything above. He is #1 by terms of everything combined. Forget learning and mastering stuff this guy INVENTS the shit. He is the originator. Arguably that makes him the most intelligent. So he's got Hiruzen level knowledge(not as much but very close), also has literal Hashirama DNA(not ashura but still), Minato level speed( agreed Minato very slightly faster but still, there is not much practical difference between light speed and super light speed, no one is laying a finger on the other in a fight)

It's a toss up on the order of them.

Naruto had no direct answer because THERE IS NO DIRECT ANSWER. Bad shit happens in life, all you can do is what you can do, not lose hope and trust the next generation. This was encapsulated by the virtue of the lead character(also called Naruto) in the book Jiraiya wrote. A book that was actually about Nagato in his early days. The book Naruto threw at Nagato to remind him of who he was. Naruto didn't have a direct answer for Nagato but Nagato didn't have a reason as to why Naruto refuses to ever fall into despair like he did. No parents, no kakashi, no jiraiya, no sasuke, village destroyed yet he refuses to give in to hatred. Here he is empathising with me after I just killed Hinata in front of him. That refusal to give in was effectively his answer and it shook Nagato to the core. Its not confusing at all, it was peak Naruto for me.

Pain actually bringing THE PAIN to Konoha. He destroyed the city. He "killed" Kakashi of all people. He had Naruto pinned down and beat his talk no jutsu. Then he "killed" Hinata.....bruh all of this was too much for me, at that point. What a friggin BOSS!

Naruto easily. Wtf and how does he even come up with his "strategy" its absolute madness. You can't counter it because it's just pure chaos. Randomly turning into things like shurikens and rocks, shadow clone fake outs,THAT sexy no jutsu, the guy is an unintentional unparalleled genius. Itachi and Kakashi and Sasuke and Obito and Madara were good but the sharingan helps them figure things out quickly. I give Naruto, Shikamaru and Tobirama the props for this one right here. I didn't see enough from Minato. He has a couple of broken jutsus that he uses well. Strategy involves long term plays, plans on plans. Nahh. Naruto had long ass plays. Remeber when he stuck a bomb tag on a kunai and shoved it up garaas ass? The fumma shuriken fake out play against zabuza .....When did Naruto transform into the rocks that came out of nowhere to counter Shinra Tensei against Pain?!? Kakuzu knew what Naruto was trying to do and still couldn't stop it.

He didn't. He just believed. People.....family, do that for each other all the time. Dads, brothers,moms,it's what humans do when they love someone. Even if Sasuke did attack again, he was going to forgive him again. It's called unconditional love. I didn't understand it until I had a daughter.

Moot point. The other eras simply never faced a double rinneagan holder. Never compare eras. Times are different.

Pardon me, but in saying that.....did you just deal an absolute?

I've seen copy wheel eye, I've seen mirror wheel eye, I don't actually think I've ever seen Kaleidoscope Copywheel eye.....but if its anywhere its probably adult swim.

No need to apologize, this IS shounen and she did something on her knees with her mouth instead

No he pulled out the rhyme book after he no sold a legit Sasuke kick to the chest. Just no sold it. The ass whooping was yet to come, he was just warming up.

Nah Tobirama is leagues ahead of the rest man. The drip with the white fur bruh? Too much swag. Sharingan holders stay looking dope because the eye gives them good fashion sense.

Kishi was high when he wrote that whole scene. Uzumaki or not, that was ridiculous. Come on.

Kankarou and Temari were basically serial psycho predators back then too....ah good times.

Bruh you had to be there to understand. It was worth it.

Throw Orochimaru UNDER the jail right now. Jiraiya out on bail, trials pending. Tsunade would be found innocent under the freedom of appearance act of 2024 but she would be mandated to teach the world the exact specifics of the transformation jutsu which would lead to other problems.