I did a little research, crazy, I know.
That 'statistic' came from a study done in 1959 on 100 people. That is not a typo. All I did was enter 'what is the source of the statement....' and I found the answer. I repeatedly searched for over an hour for the actual research paper and I couldn't find it, maybe there are some internet sleuths in here that are better at deep dives than I am.
That's 65 years ago. That's older than me.
I see this 'statistic' come up in this sub here and there and I have to sit on my hands to keep from being that old Karen because it's a motivation killer and it's hurting people.
So I dug deeper and it actually took me about 20 minutes to find what I was looking for (as compared to the less than a minute to find this 1959 garbage study plastered everywhere, sorry, but I'm salty about this) and I read through it all with what little nurse brain I have left and I found this which I think this sub needs to see.
Breaking it down, I found this in the 'results' section, specifically having to do with table 3, which is where I'm lifting it from and I will link the entire paper at the end of this post.
First there was this:
"The majority of patients (men: 61%; women: 59%) whose records showed a decrease in BMI category went on to record a subsequent increase in BMI category."
And you'll read that and think, "So what's the point, Lisa? Obvi a chunk of these people regained the weight so it's still the same". But ah grasshopper, here's what's different: the populations studied here were based on BMIs ranging from 18.5 to above 45. That's not just morbidly obese, or super morbidly obese, that's Gina across the street going for her run wearing her size 8 shorts to me at my largest. That's the population they sampled, IOW, bring me everyone. EVERYONE. I found that, if you want to check me, on table 1, first column, shows you the BMIs sampled.
I continued to read and then found this:
"The proportion of patients who showed a second decrease in BMI category was highest among the morbidly obese (men: 16%; women: 19%) and superobese (men: 23%; women: 24%), and was considerably less frequent in lower BMI categories. Overweight patients and those with simple obesity were the most likely to display no further BMI category change following a recorded decrease."
Men in the SMO category that had an additional decrease, a second decrease, in BMI over the period of the study: 23%
Women in the SMO category that had a second decrease in BMI over the period of the study: 24%
Fuck. Your. Five. Percent. Quit spreading misinformation to justify your viewpoint that you have not researched but are just parroting from your favorite influencer.
And I'll do what fat acceptance seems incapable of: link to the source paper from the AJPH
This paper dates from 2015. It was the most current source I could locate. I do feel like this might be more accurate than a paper from 1959 that studied 100 people in total as this study looked at 176,945 individuals.
I love you all, I truly do, and I want you to live your best lives. I don't do social media other than Reddit and my only goal here is to do what I did before I retired and that is to use my brain and the resources I have available and my experiences to help people live happier and healthier lives.
Here's to 2024, it's gonna be a great year! :) <3
So I will gently add my perspective from someone who was on Metformin at 462 lbs. and had been on Metformin for 16 years with weight gain, not loss. Metformin is not semiglutide, it's a different class, but what I'm telling you here could apply, I just want to present another side of the coin.
Unless you feel that your Dr. is against fat people in some way or you are uncomfortable with them, I would say to listen to your Dr. and only you can make that determination. People don't like to be told no but sometimes no is what they need to hear.
I came off Metformin, wanted desperately to come off Metformin, and soon as my blood sugars normalized enough to do so because for 16 years I used a medication that, among other side effects, killed my sex drive. Facts. You won't find that anywhere on the internet, I could be the only person on the planet this medication did that to, but it did it to me because within a 3 months of coming off of it that, and all the other side effects (hair loss, kidney problems), resolved. I can't even tell you how happy I was when my hair started coming back, I thought I was going to be a bald ass bitch for the rest of my life. I even tried, during those 16 years, to find a medication for women that would help with lack of sex drive. The best 'solution' I was offered, by my female OB/gyn no less, was to rent a motel room and light some candles. Looking back I feel my sexual dysfunction had a lot to do with my depression which, ofc, caused me to eat more.
Medications have side effects. I feel like with all the media hype and ads and portrayals of fat people sticking patches on their arms and dancing around living their best lives that gets overlooked. Oh, you get the tiny print at the bottom of the ad with "may cause" or the voice at the end "maycausestrokecancertheendoftheworldtalktoyourDr" but we've all learned to ignore that voice, haven't we? It's just some babble. I have a curiosity: what if there were market studies done to determine how much people pay attention and what warnings would they pay least attention to? I'd be interested to know the answer to that, my own personal little conspiracy theory, if you will.
Is it possible that your Dr., based on his knowledge after extensive schooling that you do not have or have access to, has determined that the side effects on the negative side do not warrant giving you this medication, that he is actually, based on his clinical knowledge, doing what he thinks is best for you? I was a nurse for over three decades. Contrary to popular belief these days there are those of us that went into healthcare to help people. Is it possible that your Dr. is one of those people? Again, only you can make that determination based on your interactions with him but I would like you to at least consider the possibility.
I didn't. I kept looking until I found a Dr. to put me on Metformin against the advice of my original Dr. because I had heard that Metformin makes weight loss easier and I was desperate to lose weight. I didn't, despite being a nurse, do any research at all. I just heard, one day, that this would be a simple solution and I decided I was having it. I think I may have seen that in an ad on TV or someone at work told me. Hmmm.
I spent 16 years in Hell. By the time I figured out that the Metformin was causing these side effects I was committed because without it (and I tried) my blood sugars went through the roof because I refused to even consider lifestyle and dietary changes. Can't do that. It's too hard. I'm not strong enough. Maybe they did it but I can't and I need this pill to live. Make an informed choice. Do some research on both sides of the coin because there are always two sides. What are the side effects? Can you live with them? What will this medication do to me long-term? Do we even know that yet about semiglutide?
You can lose weight without any medication, I have. Is it hard? Fuck yes it's hard, it's the hardest thing I've ever done but it is not impossible.
As expensive as these medications seem to be again, using my daughter as an example, I would say to take that money and seek out mental health help to determine what it is that is causing you to eat and stop the problem at the source.
Whatever you choose that you feel is the best for you I wish you all the luck in the world because you are absolutely worth it.
Doctor says weight loss medication isn’t a good match for me. Thoughts?
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