Random town/city. you pull your stuff on stage, stage mgr says “ur on in 15; there’s your outlet.” Is there a device that you can plug in there and give you “all green”? And if anything is yellow or red, I can get that dude back and say “nope!” I don’t know any power-stuff :( I use modern amps and pedals, I just want to protect them and catch any sketchiness beforehand. What kinds of things are not detectable? Etc.
Why?! lol explain
So interesting!
Reading the room seems like an entire PhD course on its own!!
That’s amazing!
Love it!!! Such a different dimension of being a musician!
That makes sense; what about that approach/assessment in between.. that’s the. Magic I’m asking about, lol
We love the punk; and yes very minimal tuning changes and fx involved :)
Very cool! Yeah I’m intrigued by that “art”. You should write a “how to read the room” book, or start a mini TikTok about it. Tips, tricks, experiences, etc. I’d follow for sure
Great idea! Oh, no, I’m just asking what others’ experience was regarding those shot-callers/band leaders. What do they know, what do they see?
I suppose I’m asking about world-touring acts (any era), 800-10k venues, no setlist - calling songs semi randomly (I understand if you run the same show 30 times, of course every can memorize it). But what about those truly random acts? It’s interesting to me.
Yeah I wonder if any newer mainstream acts go without a setlist. I could see it in the 60s/70s, things seemed a little more free form then.. and I suppose when you’re the headliner you have a TON more grace with time between songs.
Tho, Jimi at Monterey was a blistering 45mins on he nose.. that man had an agenda!
Yeah crazy! I hope to get to that point. I suppose when those songs are just au-to-matic… you can think about other things like vibe/energy on peoples faces..
Re: Chuck B - That’s crazy to me! But I get it. And it’s blues, not Dream Theater :) a local dude here got picked up by Garth Brooks for a tour stop here. I don’t think they/the band rehearsed, but maybe got a setlist ahead of time.. He met him for the first time during the verse of the first song. Ha!
And I don’t mean the technical side (like how the next song is actually communicated), I mean like what’s tour prep like? Is there a finite list that will get picked from; or you just gotta know EVERY song? Do bandleaders have tendencies, do they say something before the set, or something after the show about it. I’m just curious how their mind works so fluidly with an entire show for thousands of people. Crazy to me, lol.
Bumblefoot and Slash said they don’t, but Axl has a separate channel that he can talk to the band.
Cliche, but: “what are your goals!?”… Seriously; sounds like you’re a well-rounded, critical, musician. Ok, go make some big boy goals and find the path to them. It might be this band (if you explain to them what your goals are, and give them an opportunity to move towards them), or it might be a different band (if you provide your goals up front!).
And nobody gets hurt when you say “yall knew this from the beginning; these are my goals, I want to get there. I don’t see it happening here.” People change, life situations change. Not all bands work out. BUT as long as you have a goal and your bandmates know it, you’ll know if you’re headed in the right direction.
And it’s okay to change your goals, but you gotta tell your band mates, they got goals too! (Hopefully!)
Touring musicians: how do some artists just go on with no setlist?
I just watched the Bob Marley movie, no setlist! Jimi Hendrix, Guns N Roses.. many others, just walk out and someone(?) calls the shots. I prefer a setlist to see how the flow of the show will go and what effects I need to get set for the next song; know to grab a different guitar.. etc.. not to accidentally repeat a song (if ur playing 2+ hrs).. make sure you finish on time… how have you seen the pros handle it? Any quirks? I dread the dead air of “what should we play?!” potential moments 😬😬
Burning of the Midnight Lamp and Bold As Love are pushing it a bit. Angel (chorus). Ezy Ryder and In From The Storm are screamers too (if you listen to some live versions)
Replace #6 with • “Stop” (1st show) and • “Train” (1st show)
What are your goals? Go follow bacon.bits on IG, he’s the man!
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