He has until Saturday to opt into his $48.8 million contract for next season or become an unrestricted free agent. The Clippers can offer him a four-year, $221 million deal. However, they haven’t been willing to offer more than the three years, $152.3 million they gave Kawhi Leonard. The problem is George wants a four-year deal. The Sixers and other squads can offer four years and around $212 million.
[Pompey] The Clippers can offer Paul George a four-year, $221 million deal but haven't been willing to offer more than the three years, $152.3 million they gave Kawhi Leonard. The problem is George wants a four-year deal.
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Clippers need to cut their losses and blow this up. They need to get value for their assets before it's too late and before their players are valued less than what they already are. I don't see the point of riding this team out into the sunset. It's clearly not working.
Problem is the Clippers just built a brand new billion dollars arena, at their current situation a full blown up would tanked its attendance till 2030. If they retain PG it would put butts on the seats.
Nothing to it, they need Kai Sotto.
If that arena had jollibees it would make BANK!
Jollibee changed their recipe, it not that good anymore
Was this just in the US? Because when I was in the Philippines last year it tasted the same as it always has. It was as delicious as ever, I’m hungry for that sweet Jolly Spaghetti now. Masarap ang Jollibee.
Now you have me craving it. I love that spaghetti.
Yeah, they took their spicy chicken off the menu and when it came back, completely different.
They WHAT?! That is a crime against humanity. Adam Silver needs to invade the Philippines and refuse to leave until this is rectified.
Why is it that when a recipe changes, it never improves the product and just makes it worse? FFS
Yup just had it today actually and publix chicken clears new jollibee
The greatest fast food restaurant in the history of the world 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
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Might be the best chicken sandwich I've had. Wasn't gimped in size either like most places
Anti-jollibee here. Nobody listen to this trash. Jollibee = trash. Remember that.
They need to sign Kai Soto and trade for Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. They’ll make so many pesos for the fake jersey makers in the Philippines 😤😤😤🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Also when do they own their picks? I think they traded most of them away.
Like 2030 lol
I really don’t agree 35 year old declining PG on a clippers team that has a hard ceiling is brining so many asses to seats that you should ignore the future of the team
He turned 34 last month haha
He just posted 22/5/3 on 47/41/90 splits over 74 games while Clippers finished 4th in the highly contested West and 5th best record in the league, losing 2-4 to the conference champs with Kawhi missing for most of it? People are so fucking quick with it lol
He’s also already 34yrs old and there is no guarantee he ages gracefully during a 4yr contract.
It’s more likely that he falls off a cliff somewhere between Year 2-3 of his next contract.
Not everyone is LeBron.
On the one hand, you’re right.
On the other hand, they already committed to huge spending on aging vets when they extended Kawhi.
But they only gave Kawhi three years, the issue being PG wants four and not three
Spending isn’t the issue, it’s that they don’t want the extra year of dead weight
I take your point, but they’re stuck now. Kawhi on that 3-year extension looks even riskier, if PG leaves & the Clippers fall out of title contention.
I actually think they're best off to let PG go. It's not that PG is bad, but rather than the Clippers have too many aging & streaky stars who take too many shots & ISO possessions when their shot just isn't falling.
While the Clippers' offensive rating is high - and very impressive considering injuries - they're missing some of the "it" factor & chemistry that they'd need to be a perennial WCF team.
Something like a sign & trade with a young team like the Pacers + signing a facilitator like Tyus Jones could go a LONG way:
PG: Tyus Jones | Westbrook
SG: Harden | Mann
SF: Aaron Nesmith | Isaiah Jackson
PF: Leonard | Obi Toppin
C: Zubac | Plumlee
This would open the offense up SO much.
- Jones is an unselfish facilitator who can get the most out of both Harden & Leonard. He's not a great scorer, but the Clippers have enough scoring power - they really just need a true PG. He's an upgrade over Mann, not too expensive, and would allow Harden to play in his more natural SG spot.
- Nesmith is obviously a downgrade over PG, but he has defensive chops & holds his own in a starting lineup, while having potential to further develop.
- Toppin & Jackson would significantly bolster the bench, allowing starters to get more rest & avoid injuries. With Westbrook running the bench offense, they second unit will thrive. They're also young guys with room to grow.
In this scenario, are you confident Harden would see the same benefits & stay? Without PG, he may also want to play elsewhere.
Yeah this is deja vu for Sixers fans thinking about bringing in PG. A 34 year old with questionable health wanting 220 million over the next 4 years? It's fucking ground hogs day over here.
you're not wrong, but if they don't extend him they can't trade him and get zero value back if he signs elsewhere.
Kawhi is always missing tho, that’s the point. Of course it may work if you try again but there’s plenty of evidence to suggest it will not.
Kawhi’s health is the issue, I agree. I’m defending PG based on last season. My question is how to you make adjustments to their roster and field a better on with the idea of winning now?
It's not possible to win with these stars. They couldn't win even when Kawhi was healthy in the playoffs that one year. Granted they still had the curse that was Doc Rivers coaching them when they blew that 3-1 lead. But Kawhi's much older now and so is PG. They should blow it up and go again.
Wait, Kawhi was hurt? Color me shocked.
my man, you think the Clippers can really hang around the West as is? Lakers get shit on and they have LeBron and AD, who played amazing this year.
The Lakers also have a shit roster outside of those two and committed millions to the corpse of Westbrook
The Lakers are heavily mismanaged whereas the Clippers have been competent in roster build on paper but PG/Kawhi just get injured
But that's exactly my point lol. Everyone is ready to shit on the Lakers despite having LeBron who is old as hell but still can hang when it counts. And AD is coming off a career high games played (I think). Yet the Clippers have PG (who is a perennial choker) and Kawhi (who is way more injured than AD) still people want to act like they're completely fine? In this Western Conference?
Do I think they can compete as is? Absolutely, they just did that. Contending for a chip is rough, they really need a healthy Kawhi. My Lakers shot themselves in the foot trading assets for Westbrook. it is what it is but that monumentally fucked their competitive window, speaking of teams that will be greatly hindered by age moving forward. My point is I don’t think their organization is going to blow it up right now considering their investments, and I also don’t think they can field a much better roster if at all through trades and draft acquisition alone. This blow it up shit will be more realistic fairly soon, though.
They definitely won’t blow it up. There’s no incentive for the clippers to make our roster any worse than it is. Kawhi, Harden, and PG are probably gonna retire with us. It’s the same story every year with us Kawhi gets hurt and our fans blame PG for not being good enough to carry our team in the playoffs.
PG was a pretty damn good second option this year, we flamed out again. And our fans will say he sucks and isn’t worth the money, but really we took the mavs who went to the finals to 6 games in a hard fought series without our best player. I can’t think of many other teams who could do that. The team is fine, all our problems are to do with kawhi and the fact that he’s never available.
But some how it’s always PG’s fault and our org is a joke for trading all these assets for this team. PG is who he’s always been a pretty damn good second option, the surprised Pikachu faces every year when he can’t get it done alone is pretty stupid every time imo
Watch him quickly declining over the next few years.
I mean he's already been declining with his shoulder issues.
This proposal has him making 60million dollars at 39. Lmao
Only natural, he’s getting older for sure and the biggest stars are young. I’m not confident they can field a much better roster to contend now, though, and that certainly seems to be the desire considering the investments.
Obviously? Are we expecting him to be LeBron?
Let’s not act like they haven’t been underachieving for multiple years now.
When did I? They’ve been competitive but one WCF exit during the entirety of PG + Kawhi ain’t enough, injuries have hurt their chances badly. I’m no Clippers fan, I’m just expressing I don’t think they can make moves to improve their roster with the idea of winning NOW and I don’t think PG should take all the heat for their outcome last year. The Boston guy comes to put up Boston and the Dallas guy comes to put down LAC, shocking lmfao. Feel like most people just post from perspective of their homer to put their team up or put their rival down and ignore every other facet of any conversation. It’s frustrating to comment on anything here lmao.
I’m literally just responding to you saying people were quick on turning on the Clippers. They are not quick, because the Clippers have been underachieving since Kawhi got there. Don’t have to convince me why they need to resign PG.
Cap. I responded to a comment about PAUL GEORGE declining, not the Clippers underachieving. I’m saying people were quick to turn on PG when he had a solid season, you’re just looking for outlets to take jabs at the Clippers. Only I’m a Lakers fan so you’re not bothering me with that specifically lmao
Is he putting those numbers up when he's being paid 60 million at 39 years old?
Great point, I don’t agree with a 4 year contract and if you do that you’re certainly doing it more so for years 1-3 than year 4. The conversation was blowing it up right now, and I don’t see that. So the other option is trading him, so what are you getting to win now that’s better than PG? PG has leverage and knows it, he might just get that 4 year contract.
This sub wants 25 teams to tsnk n blow it up. Utter nonsense
A healthy clippers gives the celtics a bit more of a fight in the finals although still think it probably woulda been 5-6 game Cs series. Really think the only ones who had a shot at Boston was Denver
yes. healthy is the thing though
34, 35. Either way it's the right side of 50
There is no future till 2030, they have traded it all away to get here.
A declining PG, an ineffective Harden, an injured kawhi, even if Clippers tried to trade them all away they won't get any assets of value short term. Contenders picks aren't worth it, tanking teams sure as hell don't need either of them, and they don't move the needle for middling playoff teams because they are not available when you need them the most.
OKC and Spurs hold the most picks of any team for the next 2yrs, neither has any need for aging over the hill often injured stars. OKC are even laughing to the bank right now so they sure as hell won't help Clippers get better.
Clippers would be more fk if they blow it up now. Just ride them till the wheels fall off, fill some seats in their new fancy building, some play-in, mayb round 1, round 2 if they get lucky. And hunker down till 2030 and hope for brighter days.
How tf was harden “ineffective”? He was averaging 26 on 73% ts through the first four games. He just ran out of gas because it turned out he was going to have to be the best player on the team (again) except this time he was only supposed to be the third option, not even just the second option like last year.
What exactly is the clippers ceiling tho? Middle of the season they looked like the best or 2nd best team in the NBA for a 30 game stretch, then once injuries kicked in they fell off and never looked the same even when semi recovered. I do think it’s been proven clippers will likely always have a major injury come playoff time, but I also feel like harden raised their ceiling enough to where it can make some sense to just try and run it back with improvements.
Harden ain't getting better this year
They don’t necessarily even need that they need kawhi to stay healthy and for PG to be better.
The question is, even if all of them are 100% healthy are they really a top 4 team in the West next year? I don’t think they are better than a healthy OKC, Denver, Minnesota or Dallas.
So if your ceiling is still the 4th or 5th best team in your conference and every year it’s going to drop lower because your whole team is old, is it worth pursuing that at all.
Instead they could guarantee themselves to be in at least a solid rebuilding spot if they blow it up by the trade deadline this year
Well I did mention in my other comment they had like a 35 game stretch where they were the best team in the nba essentially when healthy. After that a few injuries hit and they just never looked the same, but if they can get back to that level and maybe add on the margins this offseason they are firmly right there with these teams I believe.
Also in pretty sure clippers don’t own their 1st round picks until 2030 or something crazy. I don’t think they have a real incentive to tank and certainly not trade their best players unless a team offers them a haul, which due to their injuries is very unlikely.
I think it’s likely clippers will never win a chip with this core too, but they’ve invested so much and that stretch in the middle of the season last year was too good to just give up on.
History would say otherwise. He’s gotten significantly more athletic and better every season since the hamstring injury.
You can't be serious lol
Uhh it’s literally objectively correct. His athleticism has gotten better every season since the injury. Last year he won the assists title and single handedly took two games off the most stacked roster in the league and was the only reason they were up 3-2. This year he made the clippers one of the top teams in the west and was averaging 26 on 73%ts through the first four games with kawhi injured and PG doing whatever.
Honestly wtf are you even talking about. I don’t know how you could watch his games and possibly think that’s not true.
It's compelling to watch, they could get lucky, they're famous names. It's better than watching future draft picks. Better than the Wiz, Blazers, Pistons, Nyets, Heat, Cavs.
Like same as Warriors and Lakers basically and they're fun to watch and argue about and ridicule.
No… no it wouldn’t lol. We have all seen this same sht for 5 yrs. An actual change would be more exciting.. not a full blow up… a retool?
Ballmer is the richest owner by a mile. He can afford years of no attendance. Whether he wants that is another thing
This is all just fun for Ballmer, a billion is basically nothing to that guy. He's just going to do whatever he thinks will be more fun. Which yea, is probably keeping this team exciting for another couple seasons with the new arena. I don't think recouping his investment on the arena is going to be the driving force behind his decision though.
Then give him 4 years lol. But he'll be injured mostly anyway
But they can have that luxury, unlike most teams. Balmer is worth billions.
I’m sure Balmer can afford to float the team through the tough years.
Lower ticket prices and make games fun maybe? There’s too many people in La to not keep it full
I hate this idea that the arena is the reason they can’t blow it up. Ppl are gonna show up to a new arena regardless
Losing with this team will also tank attendance
Is it though? Are that many people wanting to watch a bunch of old players sit out half the season and not be able to make it out of the first round?
Yeah, but Ballmer is also the richest owner in the league, his net worth moves more than the $2bn arena cost in just a day of trading, and he gets $1bn in dividends alone from just his MSFT stock not even taking into account whatever else he's invested in
Lol yes, because what fans want to see are declining, injury prone players instead of exciting young prospects. They need to get as many draft picks as they can for these rapidly declining stars who can't stay healthy more than 1 game into the playoffs
Who will give them any picks tho?
As it stands play-in and 1st round is still achievable, with some luck 2nd round. Its not long term, its not sustainable, but its better than a nothing burger.
Would fans want to pay tix to a brand new arena just to see a tanking team that holds no future till 2030?