You know you’ve f*d up when even vehemently childfree folks hate your post…
I mean, the vast majority people who don’t want a kid are just normal people. Only a few unhinged lunatics would be in favor of child-murder, and unfortunately a lot of those end up being parents.
Yea just because I don't want kids doesn't mean I want the genocide of preteens
Parent of a preteen here. I might.
at least a genocide of their damn lingo. On cap, no god or something like that.
That isn't very sigma rizz of you.
I’m always skeptical of “this new generation is worse than the last ones”, mainly since my generation (Gen Z) got hit by that wave pretty hard. But like man, Gen Alpha having internet since day one is gotta have some effect down the line. Just remains to see how big of one it is. (I’m not a fan of judging 11 y/o’s)
Skibidi.
Skibidi.
Yeah...I still don't understand what that's supposed to be.
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Someone call a stroke, I think I'm having an ambulance
Normal but extremely selfish people.
Nothing selfish about not wanting kids and I say this as someone who has kids.
I can't think of one single thing that would make someone without kids inherently selfish but I could make the argument that some parents are absolutely selfish. Happy to receive information to the contrary.
I mean it is by definition selfish but I don't think there is anything wrong with that. You are entitled to like your life the way it is and put yourself first.
The problem is when that entitlement begins to affect other people. Comes in the form of actively hating children or being judgemental towards parents but you are right that many other people act selfishly as well.
But how is it selfish?
I'm not talking about the entitlement stuff or actively child hating people.
I just don't see how not having a child is selfish, should everyone have a child? No. And I agree that there is nothing wrong with some selfish acts but that still doesn't explain how not having children is selfish.
I think general society tries to portray it as "my present is more important than someone else's future." For most people the concept of "they're selfish" just goes unquestioned.
There's no consideration to the actual reasons for the decision, like hereditary conditions, knowing you won't be able to care for them properly, etc.
My first reason for not wanting children was that I was a very sad child, and I didn't want my children to feel the way I did. I don't think it's selfish to not bring someone into the world when you know they will suffer.
why even argue with the guy? he probably had kids just to feed his own ego
I am curious if people have an actual reason other than "cos it is" but you do raise a good point.
Well you are thinking about it as a negative thing. I think it’s good to be selfish as in you are concerned about yourself first for major life decisions.
I don't consider looking after yourself to be selfish. A childless person is obviously going to be concerned with themselves first because they are the only person.. unless they have a partner/friends/family and may consider them also, depends.
But you can't be selfish over someone/something that doesn't exist. To be selfish is putting yourself above others, if there are no others it cannot be selfish.
And I'm not only thinking of it in the negative, just the literal. If you are a solo human at home alone and buy a cake and don't share it that's not selfish cos there's no one to share it with. If you aren't a solo human and ate that cake in secret before the others got home that could/would be considered selfish.
I guess we just have different interpretations of the word selfish.
Selfish is a negative word itself. Of course people will take offense at being told they’re self-centered when they simply don’t want kids. There’s a number of reasons why someone would choose the CF lifestyle and it’s not selfish to choose not to have kids.
How is not having a child selfish? Isn't it just as selfish to have a child for your own reasons?
That is not by definition selfish at all. Suggest you look up the definition since you seem confused by it.
Maybe they’re not having kids because they’re taking into consideration over population?
Or
They can’t have kids?
Did you have every variable taken into consideration here? Yeah you really don’t
Selfish would be having children while not wanting to care for them.
It’s selfish to have children you can not or will not properly care and provide for. Knowing that you do not have the financial or mental capacity to provide a happy and stable childhood to offspring isn’t selfish. It’s self aware.
Personally, I have it all. Stable relationship, nice home in a quiet village with schools, good income.
I still don't want one or more children. Neither does my wife. Still self aware of course, but I'd still call it selfish to put children on this world.
I completely understand that point of view. I wouldn’t choose to have children at this point in my life even though my husband and I are happy, stable and could easily afford it. I did have two when I was young, stupid, and couldn’t afford it. I worry about their future on this earth we don’t seem able to care for. And now I have a granddaughter and the future of the planet makes terrified for her. She is by far the happiest, most easy going toddler I’ve ever met. She doesn’t know the hell we’ve created for her. It makes me cry sometimes.
Nah, selfish would be having a child you can't properly take care of and raise just because you want kids.
Lmao someone's salty that they made a poor life choice
Yeah it’s super selfish to not want to risk passing on genetic disorders to a child.
Yeah, I guess it’s pretty selfish of me to be infertile. Sorry ‘bout that.
I actually think it’s way more selfish to have kids. And im a mom
Casey Anthony had one of the best criminal defense lawyers of all time. Just mind blowing tbh
Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Baez_(lawyer)
Secondary Edit for people unfamiliar with this case: https://youtu.be/eJt_afGN3IQ?si=Awn3qeKY_EPIB2wq
More like the most incompetent prosecutors of all time.
They were too concerned about not having her get a lesser charge that they didn’t include them. Made it so there was not a good backstop when doubt got introduced.
My guy that lawyer is something else. Yes the prosecutors weren’t good but do not downplay that man’s ability to control the court. Casey Anthony isn’t the only high profile case he’s handled, very intelligent and powerful lawyer, don’t mistake his capability for others incapability
You don’t want a criminal lawyer, you want a CRIMINAL lawyer
This feels like a Better Call Saul quote
Breaking bad
Not in this scenario.
Pretty sure that’s either a Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul quote
If it's not about Saul Goodman it definitely should be.
It's from Breaking Bad. Jessie and Walt are in Saul's parking lot about to go in for the first time.
I hate that I can remember dumb shit like this, but forget loved one's birthdays. Stupid brain.
He’s currently defending a woman who allegedly hired a hitman to kill her exhusband.
No, but I play one on TV
No, but he slept in a Holiday Inn Express.
Is it the woman that was part of a sting operation on an episode of Cops?
It was mind-blowing that it was her own father who was paying the guy, only for the lawyer to turn around and accuse the guy paying his fees, of molesting his own daughter, and the daughter to just go along with this, knowing it's her dad paying... It's another level of psychopathy.
Didn't even finish HS, got his GED.
In the real word that means pretty much nothing
I just read through the Wikipedia article on the case and as horrible as this whole situation is and was, I’m glad that the prosecution’s weak show of evidence as it was presented wasn’t sufficient to convict. There’s too much bad forensic science admitted into court and we don’t need to introduce a new flavor of unsupported hair and fiber evidence into the judiciary system.
I want to be clear that I don’t think that the case should have gone that way
Agreed. I think they absolutely could have convincted if things were handled better. But I'm begrudgingly glad that the case was judged as presented, not judged from 'everyone knows she did it.' Court of public opinion isn't a fair trial, even if I think it was correct this time. That being said, I hope she somehow eventually faces justice.
Also, the police didn’t bring the FBI in until too late. I heard an interview with the FBI agent and he is absolutely heartbroken to this day because he felt they investigation was so poorly managed
Ugh. I had purged that monster’s face from my memory, and I was struggling to understand the “joke” before I saw this comment.
This kind of trash makes regular CF folk look terrible.
She’s so plain looking but also very memorable for some reason. She really drives the “monsters hiding in plain sight” perception to home. You’d never look at this woman and think she’s capable of what she did, just goes to show
Thank you, for someone not from America I was lost
Made the beat then murdered it; Casey Anthony.
It's a bonfire.
Turn the lights out
I'm burning everything you mothafuckas talk about
I was literally thinking about how i dont know what this bar means bfore scrolling to this.
That woman was tried for murdering that child. Her name is Casey Anthony.
Man Casey Anthony is truly as evil and insane as they get. Did a deep dive on her, she was doing some unhinged shit even before Caylee’s death. Threw her dad under the bus during the trial too.
Yup heard all about her on timesuck. True monster
I thought she looked familiar! I haven’t thought about her in a while.
I thought that was her. Jfc. I vividly remember the jokes in high school about her. Not a great look with hindsight.
On a scale from Casey Anthony to Jerry Sandusky, how much do you like kids?
She DID kill her child. We all know it. She’s a POS and I hope she dies, it would make the world a better place
I can't understand why she wasn't convinced, but if they had done proper work in the investigation and looked at her browser (who tf only looks at internet explorer when another browser is installed?) she would have gotten what she deserved.
Tried and found not guilty despite there being a whole lot of incriminating evidence that she, at least, had a hand in killing her and/or covering up her body.
The problem is that they didn’t prove it was legally murder. If you think there’s the slightest chance Caylee’s death was an accident or someone else was as at fault, you would have to vote to acquit.
The state should have charged manslaughter or reckless endangerment.
There WERE lesser charges besides first degree murder. The jury decided that wrapping duct tape around her baby's face didn't count as aggravated child abuse or manslaughter either.
Jesus fucking christ. I forgot about the duct tape. A true animal, through and through.
I thought they couldn’t prove when the tape was wrapped. If it was after Caylee died, it’s abuse of a corpse at most.
It sucks and I’m sure a different jury might have found a way to convict on one of the lesser charges, but we got the verdict we got.
Who cares what her name was.
The child was Caylee Anthony and she was murder by her mother whose name isnt important.
Thank you, I'm terrible with facial recognition and didn't know who it was at first
Ok,now I understand. That’s sickening.
Thank you, I saw this post (I think in that group) earlier and was drawing a huge blank.
I thought this was her. Ugh.
I thought it was a transphobic post for a moment. Good lord.
Heavens no! 😟
I remember seeing the news about the whole case as a kid. Genuinely can't understand why someone would ever think that's okay to post.
What’s the Facebook group?
It’s a childfree group. I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to show it. I can send you a message.
At first I wanted to make a joke about how strange it is to have a group based on a thing you are NOT doing.
Then I realized that those groups exist because people can’t mind their own fucking business and let people live their own lives.
I ask people my age if they have kids, because that’s a way for me to relate to them. When they say “no,” that’s the end of that line of conversation.
They absolutely do not owe me any explanation whatsoever about that. The fact that some people press it blows my mind.
Someone’s reproduction is perhaps the most personal topic there is. Why do people think it’s an appropriate subject to give unsolicited advice about?
There's subs here like that - there's one I saw the other day that vehemently hates dogs
r/childfree is a hate sub along the lines of the dog version, plain and simple.
Their stated purpose to support people who don’t want to have children is perfectly fine, but that’s not what that sub is. It’s a place to hate on kids and people who choose to have them.
???
the first post i read was about a THERAPIST trying to force the ideal of parenthood onto someone, and a little further down, a woman pressured into creating a full PERSON to take care of because some fuck wanted to pass down his "legacy" because he's not remarkable enough to make anything of himself, so he needs a safety net
a bit adamant, but i'm sure they've been trained to be by equally adamant and pushy family members
maybe i'm biased based on my circumstances, but i think considering the gravitas of having children is kind of fucking important
much more productive than r/kidsarefuckingstupid, though i'm sure some of the vitriol comes from user overlap the same way you'll get mixed company when shitting on capitalism, attracting both socialists and antisemitic conspirators
That’s ostensibly what these groups are for, but they very quickly and easily devolve into vitriolic hate circlejerks directed at kids and people who choose to be parents.
Many people in these groups are ideologues who have never experienced the challenging nature of parenting, yet offer sharp critique of others’ parenting based on one-time observations of a child’s behavior out in public.
This “I want kids dead” post has obviously gone too far for the group, but it’s, unfortunately, in the same direction of many of these sorts of communities.
This reminds me of the amazon listing of a father’s day blanket that had a picture of a man and his family he murdered
Was it the Watts family, by chance?
Me: What the fuck? (Checks comments)...oh. yeah that'll do it.
Her and her whole family are ridiculous. She lied about graduating highschool and when her parents found out they still threw her a graduation party and accepted gifts to save face.
What happened?
That woman is Casey Anthony. In a nutshell, she abused and eventually (allegedly) murdered her toddler and disposed of her body. I'm not going into detail here because the story is absolutely horrifying, but that's the jist
I saw this, but it was captioned "happy smothers day."
I always thought no parent could disgust me more than that woman, then Chris Watts came along and blew her out of the water.
I'm really confused about why "vehemently" child-free folks are being painted in such a light. The poster thinks that childfree people would be ok with things like this?? I'm really confused by the title...
What’s the correlation here? Most childfree people are that way because they either physically cannot have a child and don’t have the means to adopt, OR they feel like they would not be a good parent so they responsibly are not having children.
Neither of those things means they wish murder on children.
just cuz i don’t want a kid doesn’t mean im like haha murder
I’m pretty sure whoever posted this got exactly the reaction they wanted
Disturbing, unhinged, mental are a few words to describe this facebook post.
This is evil. Caylee's smile looks just like my little cousin.
How do you know theyre vehemently child free?
And child free doesn't mean they actively wish all kids dead
Because it’s a Facebook group…for childfree people…many of which regularly state they do not want kids…
Which is the point I’m making with my post in that this lady who made it went too far…
Still doesn’t answer why you’re insinuating child free people are okay with child murder though.
That certainly wasn’t what I was trying to insinuate. I realize “vehemently childfree” wasn’t a good term to use nor would it have mattered if we were childfree or not. My point was this lady probably assumed that many of us in the group would find her joke funny for whatever reason and it certainly wasn’t. I apologize for making it come off that childfree people are okay with child murder.
You've given zero context for this image. Who is this person?
Casey Anthony. She murdered her kid and got away with it in court.
I'm more curious how the courts don't see it weird that she's living with / fucking the lead investigator of her case. 🤢🤮
Source?
I was curious as well. After a little bit of google searching, she lived with him for a bit until 2022 and now lives alone. Couldn’t find any sources on a romantic/sexual relationship and she referred to him as a “father figure.”
Take what she says with a grain of salt but if you’re going to make absolute statements, at least back it up with a source.
Ah, the person we all recognize on sight?
Like... what?
i didn’t follow the case, so i didn’t recognize the image, but i instantly recognize the name. it had incredible amounts of coverage for a very, very long time.
I don't see any mention of the name in this post. Am I missing something?
The top comment is OP linking the Wikipedia page for her, not that hard to figure out
Jesus Christ man how dense can you be?
Seven. At least.
Lol it’s not that deep man. Today you learned.
Learned that...?
... What Casey Anthony looks like?
Tf is happening here? Lmao
You tell me. Are we supposed to recognize "Casey Anthony" on sight?
"Laughing my ass off" indeed.
Lol okay man. Have a good night.
I mean, yes, I think most adult Americans would at least, which is the primary demographic on reddit. It would be like not recognizing OJ Simpson, Ted Bundy, etc. People who had very public, lengthy murder trials.
It's not unreasonable to expect most people will recognize a figure so zealously covered by media for years.
...yes? Are you really young or something? Because that case was HUGE when it happened. Casey and Caylee are very much immediately recognizable to the majority of the American population. Although I suppose a lot of redditors are young and this case is 13 years old now.
Just insufferable. 😵💫
Back atcha, baby! 👈😎👈
I mean, I'm completely face blind AND have never seen any member of the Anthony family. Even I immediately figured it out by context. She's probably still the most infamous female parental murderer in cultural memory.
Sounds like a real cool time.
How old are you?
I’m not sure how old you are, but if you were an adult or even close to adult when this happened I would expect that you recognize her on sight.
Neat.
You also didn't ask.
Didn’t ask what? Lol you seem very defensive and upset by this situation. It’s really not something to get all worked up over. And you know who it is now. 🤷🏻♀️
You didn't ask how old I was.
It seemed like an important part of the thesis.
Dude why are you being such a dick? Take your L and move on. Jesus Christ.
Oh, no I don’t care how old you are. Didn’t really have any bearing on my statement. 👍
Casey Anthony and her poor baby Caylee.
You must’ve missed my other comment that stated “Context” lol
"When you don't understand my vague references, it's expected that you read all the comments, lol!"
Huh.
You’ll live.
Fingers crossed.
Probably could’ve put the context in the title so nobody misses it
Could’ve shrug
Why are you getting downvoted? I had to scroll multiple comments before finding context, and that's only because it's 6 hours later and those comments are now at the top.
I try not to dive too deeply into the whims of redditors.
Because reddit brain is real, and when people see downvotes they primitively need to also downvote
Swoop did a really good deep dive on this. I kinda wish I never watched it though, it made me feel sick. That woman is a monster.
Casey Anthony.
How was this a good idea?
So I had a lawyer years ago who went to school with Casey Anthony's attorney. And he said that they had talked about the case as lawyers do, and I asked him what is the real truth as much as you can divulge. And he said that Casey Anthony did not kill her daughter, but knew that she was dead before they found her.
Did she just post this on Mother's Day?! WTF is wrong with this female?
That one got me a week ban on fb a few years ago
This is pretty funny actually. She is such a lying murderous bitch
Imo, this is just dark humor that’s too edgey for normie spaces. It’ll piss some people off, but tbh it’s not that dark even for a show like It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I don’t think it’s necessarily reflective of crazy beliefs or opinions, just a guy making an edgey joke in a space where it’s not super apropriate.
"Normie" Oh big guy I hope you're young and still have time to grow out of it
You’re telling me you didn’t understand what I meant? It’s a pretty standard internet term.
I think it's more just a term used by chronically online men who play too much video games lol plus you're still in the "saying bad thing = dark humor" phase
That literally is what dark humor is. Dead baby/kid jokes, 9/11 jokes, rape jokes are all dark humor. I didn’t say this was a particularly good attempt at dark humor, but that’s obviously what this is. Do you actually disagree?
Dark humor is making a joke about a dark situation, which requires making a joke. Just saying something fucked up isn't dark humor it's just saying something fucked up and trying to hide from judgment by calling it a joke
The joke is obviously the irony of wishing happy mother’s day to a mother who murdered her child / using her image as a template to wish people a happy mother’s day. That’s obviously the joke.
Wether it’s a good or bad joke is, as with all jokes, open to interpretation. I’m not defending the joke itself or saying people can’t be offended by it. I agree in so far as if you’re making Dark Jokes you can’t take objection if you didn’t read the room right and some people get offended. That’s on you. My point is that this doesn’t make any sense to post here as it’s someone clearly just making a dark joke and isn’t reflective of some crazy belief.
The thing about dark humor is that it's funny not because you laugh at the thing but because you laugh at the bad situation around it. Things like these that are directly targeted to somebody are not dark humor, they are simply awful jokes made by awful people. Please reconsider what's really funny about the "dark humor" that you enjoy and see if it's really humor or direct hate in the form of a "joke"
You mean like the irony of wishing a mother who murdered her child a happy mother’s day and/or using her picture as a template to wish others a happy mother’s day? As I said, I don’t consider this a particularly good attempt at Dark Humor, but it obviously is.
The difference is in using a specific case of a child that has been murdered by their parent as an attempted joke vs saying "haha dead babies in a container" or smth like that. I wouldn't find the last one funny at the point I am in my life but I can understand someone that would. The first one though... Edit: I just realized that my second example could be very offensive. I want to say that I have no idea who this person is. I've gathered that she murdered her child by the other comments but that's it
Tbh that sounds like a you-specific thing. You arbitrarily deciding where YOU draw the line. It’s still Dark Humor my dude. It will always piss some people off. A bunch of people’s real family members died in 9/11 too. That offlimits as well?
To be clear, I’m not blanket defending this guy’s post or saying that it is or isn’t funny. I’m just saying he’s obviously making a dark joke, and it’s not reflective of some insane belief he holds. It’s just a dark joke… one I agree would go too far for a lot of people, but it doesn’t make sense to put on this sub imo.
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