![Tomb Raider 3 Remaster Lara Croft Pinup Posters Were 'Inadvertently Removed', Dev to Add Them Back In](https://external-preview.redd.it/K6tFJS2xJiRAJ4ZyEOn5qPy5I8rc3BOUTJ-9s6J_K6A.jpg?auto=webp&s=ecc88bbc7a0c72ad8dffe11cc7f39ecf68535ae3)
www.ign.com/articles/tomb-raider-3-remaster-lara-croft-pinup-posters-were-inadvertently-removed-dev-to-add-them-back-in
All men want is conical chests and I’m sick of it.
We are going bras from the 50s now
The K team new Skioms bra I think is for the bros... The advert is pure porn intro
1950s pinup? I'm ok with this
The posters in question were miniaturized pictures of renders seen in magazines, so “they” were indeed not triangular.
The Great Pyramids of Croft have been raided
Nothing says perky more than pyramid pookies
With jiggle physics, please
That would be very unauthentic to the original. Hell, while we’re on this topic, bring back the triangles
Real women have polygons.
Lara croft sure had some.. pointies.
"Watch out for those pointy bits, hehe!"
Honestly not even including triangles as a joke option in settings is a lost opportunity
They're literally in it...
The triangles are in if you're playing the first one and using OG graphics. They were smoothed and rounded out for 2 and 3.
How does a poster jiggle?
jiggle physics were first introduced in angel of darkness.
Oddly specific things to "inadvertently remove".
As a software engineer let me assure you, the oddly specific is what always gets missed.
Of course they were. Someone just accidentally removed them from the texture.
Seeing as how the low res version that you can freely switch to still has them, that doesn't seem likely. Instead what's far more likely is they just didn't create high res versions of the textures.
Dude, the Posters were there in the Release-Version. They removed it in a Patch.
Yeah but as they said,
"In the recently released Patch 2 we made several texture and graphical updates to the HD version," Aspyr wrote in the post. "As part of these updates, the posters in Sleeping With The Fishes (The Lost Artifact) were inadvertently removed in the HD version of the game. This has been resolved and these textures will be restored in Patch 3."
Sounds like during the tweaks that's when the problem happened.
If they did it on purpose why wouldn't they remove the low res version too?
Because you can barely see anything in the low-res version. They also removed the tits on the jacket of that one NPC.
And did you notice how the devs have not said they're bringing that jacket back?
They released the wrong version on multiple stores, I wouldn’t put it past them to do such an accident.
I assumed it was a mistake, too.
Those triangle titties were iconic!! How dareth thee!!
Wow opening this site in a movie browser without ad block is ducking disgusting.
How do they have such a terrible site.
movie browser
That's a new one.
inadvertently removed
[doubt.gif]
Obligatory "fuck IGN". o7
Why are you doubting this exactly? Seems like what happened is they didn't create high res versions of the textures, so they disappeared.
You're misunderstanding. The hi-res versions of the posters were already there during the game's release. It was not a case of "they didn't create high res versions."
They were there, and then removed in a patch, which is highly suspicious and the excuse of it being an accident isn't being bought. They're probably only adding them back in due to the backlash.
Mainly because of that disclaimer that was added.
Which disclaimer? The low Res version of the posters are still in the game when running in original mode.
Adding them back in because they got caught removing them.
No. They remained in the game, but weren't visible. They remained visible when you turned down the graphics to the classic ones.
Everything is a conspiracy don't you know?
"If I think it is possible, that must mean it's true!"
Life would be so boring if it wasn't haha
To be clear here, I don't think there was, I just think incompetence or they'd have removed the original.
It may be the reason.
Slow news week huh?
Won't believe it until it's confirmed the posters are back. Don't know why they were removed to begin with.
because the remaster was mostly done by AI.
Yes, because it's one of the things AI is actually best at. Upscaling at this point is one of the most solved problems we have, and if you're using RTX gpus, there's a good chance that the images you're seeing in any game you're playing is upscaled.
Though, your "because" does not actually answer the guys question at all. The most likely reason is the devs forgot to upscale the texture for the posters, which is why the low res versions of the posters still show up when in "original mode".
You don't think people know if they have their upscaling solution turned on?
Native is visually the best if you have the performance for it obviously.
Thank God, gaming is saved!
Given it was cheaply done, I imagine it was a bug, but they figured it'd be better without fixing it.
Just respect original design and improve to improve, not remove to remove. No one reasonable has a problem with 64x64 textures but the pixel art community, and that's reasonable.
Hahaha needs more triangle.
How did we end up with the radical left taking on the puritanical, prudish side of the religious right?
And how come some instances (BG3 , Cyberpunk) are totally fine and no one complains, but Tomb Raider and Stellar Blade happens and people start screaming? I don’t get it. Those two examples don’t even have nudity, whereas others do.
The only people whining about Stellar Blade are the guys too scared to watch porn bitching because you can't see Eve's camel toe anymore.
Same with Abby getting railed in TLOU2. I don't know, it almost seems like the more masculine the woman, the more accepting the left is. Maybe they convince themselves that all the women are trans. Maybe they're just threatened by women who aren't ugly like them.
the stupidity of your comment is truly astounding
But that also doesnt make any sense, because you can strip Shadowheart butt naked in BG3 and shes hot as shit. I think it truly boils down to "its not ok when the target demographic is white men".
The majority of people playing BG3 are men, do you think nothing in the game was made to appeal to men? Seriously? As for a real answer: shadowheart wasn’t created solely to turn on players. She has a personality and clear wants/needs/likes/dislikes in game. None of this has anything to do with nudity, you’re completely off the mark there. It’s about objectification. You can objectify shadowheart but the game doesn’t do that with how she is characterized and portrayed. The game respects her as a character (at least as much as any other character). In contrast, some characters are treated as objects first and actual characters second. They have limited to no personality besides being sexually appealing - and that’s what many people critique.
I think I am understanding, but is that really grounds for censorship then? Lacking personality? Seems very arbitrary and, again, self-referentional to the person who is critiquing the game. Censorship in this area is very wishy-washy and I think most people just want the rules to make more sense.
I’m not commenting on censorship, I’m commenting on why some characters are criticized but not others even though they’re all sexually appealing.
And for girls and women that have experienced being objectified first-hand - it’s really not arbitrary. There’s tons of studies on the effect objectification in media has on girls and women (not good ones). It makes sense to not want to be treated like an object because of your gender. When a character has a personality and wants to be sexy - clearly they are not an object. When a character basically only exists to be sexy, then their “characterization” is basically “sexy object”.
I'm getting it. So taking a character like Bayonetta for example, where she "champions" her sexuality, and sex appeal, and it's not born from the focus of an outside person "oogling" them, correct? Bayonetta is very sexual, but that sexuality is a core aspect of her personality. That doesn't necessarily explain someone like 2B though, who also doesn't seem to have agency in her oversexualization, but at the same time it feels like the common census is that her sexualization is accepted by most people
Yes exactly. Obviously some people will dislike any sexualization, I can’t speak for everyone. I’m only saying that generally what I laid out is why many people critique some portrayals and not others. From what I understand 2B does have a reason for dressing the way she does even though it’s not sexual (something about understanding humans?). I own the game but I just haven’t had time to play it (so much backlog!) so I can’t fully comment on her design.
In a vacuum 2Bs design comes across as more artistically interesting in my opinion. If I wanted to do a sexy cosplay 2B looks far more appealing to me than Eve. Eve just seems like tits and ass for the sake of it with no real thought to a cohesive aesthetic. Other people may agree with me and that may be why they’re more forgiving of 2B. Personally I’m also not against all objectification in all contexts and I like playing as attractive characters in revealing clothes sometimes. But I do tend to dislike characters that have nothing going for them beyond “sexy”.
Right, fair enough. Thank you for taking the time to explain your viewpoints! Also highly recommend playing Nier! While I do think that Stellar blade is a fun game, its way more style than substance. The story in NieR is really just phenomenal, and so is the OST.
You desperately want to be a victim, huh?
No, I’m just trying to make it make sense. Because it doesn’t.
I know this isn’t the sub for it but if you really want a real answer: because it’s not about nudity at all. It’s about agency and objectification. Characters that are created to have agency and a want to be sexual aren’t the same as characters that are created as mostly objects first (and an actual character second) to turn on players.
See I still just not sure I understand. Shadowheart, Karlach, and Laezel (Love them, do not get me wrong I very much think the game is incredible and well done) all have very explicitly "sexy" underwear, how does that not classify as the same kind of objectification as Eve in Stellar Blade? The line here that is being drawn in the sand seems to be very self-referential depending on who is analyzing the game. If someone doesn't like It, it is classified as "bad" sexualization, but when people like it, it's classified as "acceptable" sexualization? What basis is there for categorizing someone like Eve as "an object first", just because she is stereotypically sexy? Seems exactly the same as Karlach, Shart, and Laezel to me. Actually in fact, those characters all have desires to be loved and romance within the game, whereas Eve really doesn't even have love interests, or even act remotely sexual. She just happens to dress more provocatively. Is the issue at hand because there's no other sexualization of her character besides her attire? I am not looking to fight, I am genuinely trying to understand the other perspective of this hot topic at the moment.
I don't think most people have issues with overly sexualized characters in games, speaking as a Bayonetta fan.
I just think most people are sick-and-tired of all these gooners who complain every time a woman in a video game ISN'T wank-material. And the extent they take their hatred.
Like wasn't the facial-model for Mary Jane literally getting harassed IRL from these people?
Spoiler: we didn’t.
You're utterly obsessed with censoring and covering up anything that might tempt "the male gaze." Just saying "nuh-uh" doesn't make the obvious truth less obvious.
LOL stop listening to so much YouTube ragebait, it’s addled your mind.
This is just unhinged..
Riiiiiight. "Stop arguing and let us just have our way. There's no culture war, there's just us rewriting things to fit our views and a bunch of evil people trying to stop us. Now get out of the way, we have more franchises to destroy."
If it doesn't matter, yet they considered it important to remove it. That's disingenuous.
the fact that you're trying to gaslight people and getting upvoted when blackrock has said that they force companies into doing leftist things is funny
Blackrock never said that. Fink said you have to force behaviors AT BLACKROCK. He was saying if you want a diverse staff at your company you need to force that to happen.
He never said they force behaviors at the companies their funds invest in. So sick of hearing financially illiterate morons regurgitate this bs they heard from someone who heard from someone who lied about it. Like a game of idiot telephone.
Nah man gamingcirclejerk is what he's mostly referring too I'd say. They get real mad when people are upset about anything non-PC in a game being removed, and use a generalist "but why do you need it" nonsense rightoids always do.
Most leftists aren't like gamingcirclejerk obviously, but I'm with the commenter in questioning, the hell happened over there?
Triangular boobies was probably what drove the sales back then. Probably.
Then why was the poster still visible when you turned down the graphics to classic settings?
"inadvertently"
IMHO Tomb Raider series were way ahead of any other games at the time.
I’m so tired with the angry gamerz who seem only to care about tits and ass.
It’s all just culture proxy war bullshit anyway. Using this as a vehicle to get angry at the [insert whatever political side you hate] it’s always the same.
Proxy war through games maybe, it's not the fans who are at fault here, because none of the people that push these changes actually care about games, they just latch onto whatever popular media they can like parasites.
You should be tired of censorship.
The posters in question were added by the original developers to the level.
It's not about pleasing horny players, it's about being faithful to the source material.
The stuff they cut out were incredibly tame as well.
It makes no sense, just take a look at the updated TR3 nevada loading screen.
Its not about this lol, its about censorship
Lol sure
Is it censorship if an artist makes changes to their own art?
I care about many things when it comes to games.
Nothing wrong with enjoying tits and ass too, right?
Yup, gamerstm will let corporate discrimination and mass firing go by, but if you take their booba then they go balistic
I'm so angry at people pretending that guys don't like to see tits and ass and that games are targeted towards specific demographic. The whole world and Hollywood promotes it but it's okay for them because they objectify both male and female performers but disregard the fact that movie audiences are way more diverse than gamers.
it should be completely fine to target a specific target consumer group. Not everyone needs to play/enjoy a specific game. Especially today, where there are way more games released than in the past.
that's, what I am saying. Honestly, if any woman is getting image issues because lara croft is hot or if men actually think that a game character would actually represent how women are, these people need to be given counselling and assistance to deal with self image and confidence (I suffer from something similar and therapy has worked wonders). The problem won't go away if you stop showing hot women in media, unless someone thinks that is the real answer.
I understand the issue is more nuanced than the one sentence I used for it, but I honestly don't see the issue of having hot girls in games. I don't even play gatcha games and games where hot girls are a major selling feature.
Yeah i know and i agree with some of your points. It should be completely fine to create hot woman (or whatever floats your boat) in video games. And it should be completely fine if target audiences like said content. Games can be fictional and aspects don’t have to represent reality if it is not the goal.
Anyway, i think the biggest problem or lets say the problem that is responsible for the most controversy, is that currently old ips with loyal customer bases get changed. Probably because companies try to cater to a bigger (at least in the short term) audience while also wanting to minimize financial risk (not creating said themes in new ips).
You getting downvoted is perfect evidence. It’s hilarious the flip flop that always goes on. One day everyone accepts lots of gamers are a touch weird, the next it’s normalized
It is hilarious to see both the initial comment and my comment, which is opposite of what the initial comment was, both being downvoted.
It's just how reddit is sometimes. I focus more on individual conversations and don't take it too seriously. I noticed I used to respond to every comment and argue with people when my mental health was really low. Life are much better now.
You know you don't need to pay attention nor care
It was basically a term for progress, but now it's mostly used for intolerable morons who hate pretty women and white people
Y r u getting downvoted 😅😆😆
Americans
*Liberal Americans, the same ones who applauds gay sex and bear sex, lol
WHOOORAY
Sure the bros will say, "Not triangular enough - 0/10"