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The reason why so many “Sigma males” and “Incels” exist in the ENTP community is because we’re bad at Se
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I think ENTPs are generally more attracted to abstract, eccentric and contrary ideas. We are the ones who are willing to sit there and give everyone a genuine chance, including the tin foil hat lunatics. Our openess and curiosity makes us more vulnerable to extreme ideas because we actually are willing to subject ourselves to ideas that challenge our and societal beliefs.
While other people will hear the Incel rhetoric and immediately shut down and leave the conversation, we will actually sit there and ask "why do you think that way" - "but what about this" - "yh but have you considered x y z" - that's a circumstance that VERY difficult for us to walk away from. We engage in that debate and even though we're known to be debaters we can loose them through being ill prepared and not well informed and if you've lost a debate to an incel that insinuates the incel is correct in your eyes.
We're not particularly susceptible to incel rhetoric we're more susceptible to contrary to popular belief rhetorics because we're willing to hear them out.
But those contrary to popular belief rhetorics LEAD to incel like behavior right? Thats my entire point behind saying they think theyre outside of the societal norm and struggle with grasping with reality.
"Struggle with grasping reality"
I think theres the fundamental misunderstanding- to ENTPs reality is ever changing and fluid. When you say we struggle to "grasp reality" i don't think that's the correct way of thinking about it because our problem is we have the ability to grasp EVERYBODIES reality at the same time and we're cursed to see EVERYONES perception all at once- we OVER grasp reality. that gives us the ability to tackle the same problem 50 different ways.
We get indoctrinated because we attend the cult meetings. If other mbti's actually took the time to listen to incel rhetoric or were raised on incel rhetoric they would be just as susceptible as us. We don't think we're outside of societal norms, we want to understand the people who are and through listening to those people sometimes we get dragged into their beliefs.
We care to understand our opposition and we welcome people to challenge us. We're the ones who step into the ring with the incels and sometimes we get our asses handed to us. We have the most contact with the opposition to we're at the most risk of getting "turned"