7950X3D vs 7800X3D for mixed-purpose build

No, the extra cores don't make a big difference in Cyberpunk. In fact the 7800X3D is actually faster than the 7950X3D unless you use a tool like Process Lasso to fix the scheduling.

https://youtu.be/Gu12QOQiUUI?t=370

That being said, you will probably never notice such a small FPS difference, it isn't worth manually process scheduling all your games. Just buy the 7950X3D and use it stock.

Intel chips do use a lot of power when the limits are disabled. However if you turn down the power limits they become more efficient, simply turning a 14900K down to 225 watts makes it far more competitive with the 7950X3D.

For your use might be better if you go 7950x instead of the x3d IMO. It will still run games fine and the higher clock will help you with productivity tasks and you won't have issues with scheduling since no 3d cache to consider?

Edit: Also DDR5 ram doesn't like to have all 4 slots populated so make sure you get 2x kits instead of 4x kits. You can do 4x but you will have to tinker around with the speeds until you get it stable.

My use will be some 1440p gaming and some (hobby only) productivity. I tend to run several VM's (VMWare Workstation) at once sometimes, have all of Photoshop, Blender, InstaMat studio and several logins in Second Life going at once (I make 3D assets), also some ECAD stuff like MatLab, Proteus, Multisim, assorted MCU development suites and compilers...

if money isn't really an issue and you can afford it without second thinking, pick 7950x3d.

If it is more of a concern, pick 7800x3d.

I have the 7800X3D, if TIME is very important to you, then maybe go with the 7950X3D.

Summary:

7800X3D DESTROYER of games, average in multitask applications.

7950X3D great in multitask applications, fine with gaming.

If you can (for example) wait 3 minutes extra for a task to be complete on your PC, then the 7950X3D is not worth it. Get the gaming beast 7800X3D and wait a bit longer when you do multitask applications.

7950X3D. It is the best

Just to clarify, because reviewers and benchmarks might not drive the point home, every cpu that costs 200$ or more (and even lower than that) is a killer gaming cpu. Even a 7600x, or a 13600k, or a 5800x,or a 12700k will be able to fully drive your 4070ti at 1440p with high framerates. The difference between a 7950x 3d and a 7950x will be non existent in practical scenarios. So gaming performance is pointless, they are all fast. Very fast.  So my only recommendation after reading what you want to do with the cpu is, do not buy the 7800x 3d. It's really terrible at multithreading and multitasking in today's landscape. On a high core intel or amd part you can literally run your vms or even blender etc on the background while gaming with 0 impact on your gaming performance, a thing that the 7800x 3d cannot do.

I'd say a 14700k will fit your needs perfectly with the 12ecores it has but people go mental whenever you suggest intel, so either 7900x or 7950x3d. 

7950x3d and 7800x3d are almost identical in games but the former is much better in productivity so get that

Are you doing 2x48gb of ram or 4x24? 4x24gb could be a problem at those speeds with ryzen 7000. Motherboard bios have come a long way to fixing this but from what I hear having to 2 dimm per channel is still iffy for memory controller load. I don't want to scare you, I'd still go for it, but keep that in mind when you try to reboot after you enable expo/docp. Also keep in mind the first reboot after changing ram settings will keep you on a black screen longer than you may be used to with a ddr4 system. It takes a little bit to train ddr5 memory on first boot.

The narrative that the 7800X3D is faster in games is old and no longer applies. The 7950X3D is ever so slightly faster as averaged across a large number of games in a recent re-test that was completed. For productivity tasks, it’s obviously about twice as fast.

https://www.techspot.com/review/2821-amd-ryzen-7800x3d-7900x3d-7950x3d/

If you are ONLY GAMING and have a budget, you buy the 7800X3D.

If doing anything else plus gaming, 7950X3D.

If you don’t have a budget and want the fastest / best, you buy the 7950X3D.

The project lasso stuff is blown way out of proportion and was needed early on but not anymore.

7950X3D. Best CPU so far.

OS is Windows 10 LTSC 21H2 and will stay as that until I have to move to Windows 11 LTSC.

Not good with the 7950X3D. W11 manages the cores for you, so that old problematic has mostly been resolved

For gaming they are equal . So whats your mix, 50/50?

While th normal 7800x3d might be worse, its not bad at all at these tasks

If you can wait a month the next gen is getting announced and current gen prices should fall or opt for the new stuff.

I just got rid of my 14900k and got 7950x3d. Just do that. It’s a really good cpu and performs better.

Off topic, is your storage the lexar 4tb, I assume? How is it without the dram

7950X3D

Stop being stupid and move to windows 11.

I noticed in some cases the 7950x3d runs games faster probably due to core clock. The more cores does not help gaming really.

The task and core scheduling “issues” has never been fixed, because that’s simply the flaw with them and with windows. There’s nothing to fix, it’s simply the way it is.

Now if you’re asking if they have improved, then yes - they have. Process lasso however still remains an important tool.

Really only get the 7950x3D if those tasks you mentioned is going to earn you back money and not simply be just a hobby.

Another note is the 7800x3D has lower idle power consumption than the 7950x3D (though no where near as low as Intel’s). So while peak power consumption is twice less on Zen 4 vs Raptor Lake, the reality is your PC will always be idle longer than it will be at 100% workload.

I’ll go 7950 for a single reason you won’t notice difference in games between this two but you will notice huge difference in CPU bounded softwares.

7950x3d lets you kick everything except for the game off of the CCD you want the game to use, which is a fairly massive benefit.

Did you already purchase the 4070 TI?

If not, then would it make sense to get the 7800X3D and use the difference towards a 4080 Super?

That would get you a more solid system, depending on the financials and availability of course

I can tell you my 7950x3d paired with my RTX 4090 and 64GB of 6000mhz ram is performing fantastically well. I get between 175 and 250fps in horizon forbidden west maxed out at 1440p. It crushes God of War 2018, and Elden Ring doesn't even stress the GPU or CPU.

For video encoding the combination is fantastic. I use it to backup my 4k uhd blu-rays and it encodes the content at faster than realtime speeds 29 to 35fps with x265 10 bit HDR.

I haven't used it with DavinciResolve or Premiere yet but it has chewed through audio production as well.

If you can afford it, I recommend it. That or wait for zen5/x3d.

If what you're do mostly is gaming, then just get the 7800x3d. 7950x3d is a workstation first CPU which can handle gaming too. But unlike what others mentioned, the process lasso is not really needed anymore, atleast for me. I just keep the game bar on and everything works just fine. Never had to manually assign cores for games or apps. You'll be paying a lot more money for the same gaming performance as a 7800x3d. The difference comes in productivity especially in handbrake, but if it's secondary then you'll be just fine. 7800x3d still handles it very well, only takes longer than the 7950x3d.

Edit: I did realize you're using windows 10, in which case its going to be troublesome cause it can't do core assigning very well. You might have to use process lasso full time with the 7950x3d

I use the 7950x3D and I would only advise you get one if it's in your budget. It's a solid CPU that you can have Cooled by air or water.

You might want to wait the 2 and a half weeks and see what AMD announces for Zen 5, before making a buying decision. There's various permutations of X3D that they might offer, and ofc performance of Zen 5 for even the non-X3D parts will be an improvement over the current Zen 4.

7800x3d for sure, it pulls ahead in most things because all cores have v cache access.

For mixed purposed I'd get Intel tbh, but if you really worried about the power, get the regular 7950X or 7900X, is not the best but still a great gaming CPU, and its miles better at productivity than any X3D chip