The main reason why most women are choosing bear is because they have true crime brain rot

Forget bears or men, I’d be more scared being alone in a forest with a clown (based on a true experience circa the same time the It movie came out)

I always found it odd that women are mostly into true crime. I wonder why that is?

Wasn't there a rule about no more bear posts? Are the mods just asleep?

I thought we were done with this

I’m into true crime and the only time I’d ever choose a bear over a man is if the man is my shitty abusive g head brother in law. And not even for safety reasons either, I just really fucking hate him that much

How old are you? Because women being wary of strange men way pre-dates podcasts existing.

I’m going to offer a genuine reply to this, but I’ve seen this opinion spat out everywhere and it’s getting hard to take them on good faith. I hope you take the time to consider my effort.

I have been a victim of sexual abuse at the hands of three different men at different points in my life. I spent my entire childhood, especially when I was about 11-16, being gawked at, groped, commented on, yelled at etc by boys my age and grown ass men. Just a few months ago, I stopped visiting a friend at her house because her boyfriend’s grandfather cupped my breasts twice. For women, this is normal. I don’t think we have these conversations much with men, but we have them with each other all the time. Ask your wife, mother, sister, friend or anyone you’re close to and they will tell you this. I don’t know a single woman who hasn’t at some point been harassed, assaulted or abused in some way by a man. Not one. Dead serious. It’s everywhere and it’s all the time. My mom, my sister, my grandmother, my aunt, my cousin and several friends were all raped or molested as children. Or, for most of us, both.

While we grow up as girls, our moms, aunts, grandmothers and female family friends tell us how to stay safe from men. Don’t be alone outside after dark. Don’t live in a first floor apartment. Don’t let men know you live alone. Park under a light in the lot and check the backseat before you get in, then lock the door as soon as you’re inside. Be as nice as possible if you have to turn a man down, say you have a boyfriend already. Watch your drink. Never travel alone. Carry mace, a gun or, at the very least, your keys between your fingers. Don’t wear your hair down or in a ponytail, it makes it easier to grab. I’ve probably been coached in hundreds of rules. We swap tips with each other to stay safe. Ask the women in your life. Ask them how they were taught to be safe from men.

And these don’t always work. There are a surprising amount of men who prey on women, many of them openly… openly enough to instruct other men how best to do it. And get away with it.

The very worst thing a bear can do is eat me. If a man wants to kill me, he will probably rape me first, or after. He might keep me captive for as long as he wants. He might do it slowly, as painfully as possible. A bear is a wild animal. It has no agenda, it won’t get off on killing me. And I happen to live in bear country. They’ve been getting to my trash for years, it’s a real issue. I walked into one on my porch a few years back and I think the bear was more scared than I was. I go hiking here, I’m outside after dark… I’m not scared of the bears. But if I go somewhere to meet a man, I tell my mom who he is and where I’m meeting him. Pretty standard thing for women to do.

Still posting about this and accusing anyone else of brain rot is a wild choice

So you’d rather be Ned in Deliverance than Leo in the Revenant? Got it.

I love true crime and I just think it’s interesting. Learning about how other people act and think and trying to understand what causes them to think like that is interesting. For me it’s no different than sitting in public and just observing passerby’s. I don’t listen to true crime and go “OH MY GOD EVERY MAN I ENCOUNTER COULD MURDER ME”. I listen to true crime just cause I’m interested in it, have been since I was like 10 or 11.

From what I’ve seen it’s women who have been physically/sexually victimized by men and women who have first hand bear experience picking bears. Rare to see a woman with a good understanding of bears that doesn’t pick bear.

I found the zodiac killer

Having been catcalled since the age of 11, and dealt with a number of pervs in buses, metro, taxi, on every street, at the park, or in parties, including masturbating many times by my side, whispering dirty words, exposing their dicks, one even touching my hoochie and running, PLUS a car chase in which I was an unwilling part (they were inches from my bumper)...

Allow me to say it's my LIVED, REAL WORLD LIFE, that would make me prefer the bear.

tbh it really depends on the bear.

if it's a polar bear, no

if it's a grizzly bear, probably not, but not sure on this.

if it's a black bear... idgaf. basically like an overgrown marmot so long as u don't actively piss them off.

True crime = true events that happen to feature crime. Does reality induce brain-rotting?

From what i understand these women aren’t literally saying that a bear is safer than a man. Its just an analogy for how dangerous men can be.

Unpopular reply. I was raped by a guy a university so violently that he gave me tears inside and around my vagina. I had to see him every day on campus and deal with that physical and mental pain since that day. The bear wouldn't prolong my suffering, and if I was attacked by the bear, people would believe me. I fell asleep on the sofa after a party and I woke up to someone I thought was a friend masturbating over me with his hand in my trousers. The bear wouldn't pretend like he did nothing and try to gaslight me into thinking it was just a dream. I understand your frustration at this comparison, I really do. But it's not just true crime brain rot. It's real life for many of us. Neither of those times was I wearing something revealing or leading someone on (not that that is an excuse anyway). I know it's not all men, but I also don't know which men it is. At least if I'm attacked by the bear people will believe and support me.

My god, just making up BS out here. Have you ever been deep in the woods? This man has backpacked all over the west. I’m FAR more afraid of a loan man than a bear. I’ve encountered plenty of bear - they run away. When we’ve been out and see a dude by himself, in some remote woods, we’re far more concerned and creeped out.

This hypothetical only serves to add to the divide between men/women and promotes misogynistic/misandristic responses from either side.

It's not something worth continuing, which is why further posts regarding the topic are being removed by the mods of multiple subreddits.

It’s not true crime brain rot, it’s that most women throughout their lives have been mistreated by men in one way or another, even strangers. We watch true crime for many reasons, me personally it interests me especially the “why” behind it all and the psychology of the perpetrators. But it’s also something we use to be aware. A woman was found dead in my city last year, in a wild ass way, and it got very little news coverage. Podcasters spoke about it hence how I know about it.

Your opinion is whack. 1 in 5 women are sexually assaulted by men.

And if we're talking fatalities, “Since 2020, there have been exactly seven women killed by bears and 15 nonfatal attacks on women” in the United States, notes one popular video, whereas “since 2020, there have been 8,000 fatal attacks on women by men and 1.6 million nonfatal attacks.” -Washington Post

Oh fuck. Aren’t we done with these garbage posts yet?

Or because of personal experience they don’t feel safe around men. You dudes can try to argue with them all you want, it won’t change how they feel. Like half of women in America have been assaulted by a man at some point in their lives.

So how about instead of gaslighting women we try to raise men better.

Partly, I’m sure the popularity of true crime content does contribute to this.

However, most women I know (myself included), have a history of stories to draw from to make that decision. I have been followed and harrassed by random men. I have been screamed/lunged at by men i have politely rejected. I have received death and rape threats both online and out in the real world. I have been physically, sexually and emotionally abused by men.

My partner is the kindest, most gentle person I know. My male friends and family are all wonderful men. But- if i had to chose between a very predictable animal who won’t attack me unless provoked or a man who could be dangerous I’m picking the bear.

Plus, if a bear is in the woods that is where it lives.

The men who are getting mad at this are not only missing the point but proving it.

It’s not that women just fear being murdered by men. The level of disrespect men show women is disgusting. The harassment, the unsolicited dick pics, the lashing out if a woman says no. As your female friend how many of them have been harassed, abused or assaulted by a man, the answer will most likely be all of them.

I don't want to rain on the parade, but as a woman who loves true crime stuff I still choose the man.

I believe any woman who chose the bear has to have some fundamental issue with men.

I wish it was as simple as true crime being the culprit, and I'm not saying that it's helped, but true crime alone doesn't turn you into a misandrist.

Statistically bears are the safer choice. Unless it’s a polar bear.

I seen the commercials, 4 out of 5 grandma's prefer Castrol.

They didn't choose the bear.

Is sex while one is passed out considered rape? That happens to lots of college age girls. It happened to me. Happened to several other people I know. If college kids are out there casually raping people how rare can it be?

What’s going on is called ‘magical thinking’. Vicariously experiencing a traumatic event magically protects you from it ever happening to you.

Also, you seem to be a man hostile to , and or are aggressive towards women. I don’t know what ‘red pillers’ are, and any time you think universally about people, you’re wrong, and ignorant to boot.

Why are you so upset with women, who you determine to have brain rot, not wanting to be around men?

Which would be fine if women didn't rot their brains thinking every random man COULD be the murderer they just heard about on that last podcast.

The main issue isn't being killed, it's that a MAN can(and some will) RAPE a woman(on top of also killing her).A bear will at most kill you, and that's if you can't make them go away or you go away.

The PROBLEM is that women CAN'T TAKE THE CHANCE on every man that appears in their life, no matter how briefly.There is NO WAY to know when that man, or that man, or that man...can be an actual good person or a rapist just waiting for the opportunity.

And people are way more cunning and vile than a bear, an animal that acts by instinct.People act based on their desires and many have the desire to hurt others.

WHY is this SO HARD to UNDERSTAND?

I'm a nurse, and I also live on a homestead deep in the woods, so I frequently encounter bears/travel in the same areas that they do.

Considering the fact that I've been either physically or sexually assaulted while providing healthcare to men in a hospital setting at least once a year for the past 3 years, and I've not once been menaced by a bear in the woods, I'd say I have some fair evidence on my side to say I've been safer around bears.

The statistics are clear - many women are sexually or physically assaulted each and every year by their partners, bosses, coworkers, or random strangers. My experiences are not uncommon, nor are they limited to my job.

Instead of being mad at women for being afraid of the men who actually hurt us - clearly more often than you're realizing - be mad at the men making us feel so profoundly unsafe that we'd take our chances with bears.

I've literally been in Forests that have bears and nothing happened. So....

I mean I’d take the man - I’m a very friendly person so I think I’d be fine lmao

Women Listen to True Crime podcast to come to terms with all the horrible s*** that's happened to themselves and the other women that they know it's to desensitize the reality of our world

At this point, I’m choosing the bear because I’m sick of hearing of this fucking meme.

Statistically, women are more likely to be killed by men than bears. That's why we choose bear.

Sincerely, A woman who doesn't listen to or watch true crime

Before the true crime fad, we were taught to fear men. Some of us had experiences to reinforce that fear. Now we watch true crime to find out what the signs are that tell us which men are dangerous and what made them that way and to think about what we would do to escape. Then we enjoy watching the part where the monsters get what is coming to them. Almost every single woman out here has had something threatening happen to us, if not worse. Men can rant about that and how it is not them personally but how do we know that really? Because you say so?

Women had it hard from men for like 10,000 years, guys need to chill. We’ve had feminism for like 60 years tops. Y’all need to buckle in and start acting right. Just more cycles of blaming women does nothing to stop the wonderful ways things are evolving. Those who make fun of this question miss the point so hard it’s sad.

Edit* Wonderful ways

I think the problem here is that you're ignoring the true part of that. So, ah, yeah, a random man could be the murderer because, you know, 80% of the time they are doing that shit.

I think you’re missing the point, that Men have no real natural predators, and Women do, and their men.

I have true crime brain rot and I wouldn't choose the bear.

The reason I love true crime so much is because it's painfully obvious that we punish men too harshly for crimes they don't commit, and we don't punish women hardly at all for the horrible crimes they do commit.

This isn't always the case for men but it kind of is for women. It's very very rare for me to hear a case where a woman actually gets the punishment she deserves.

The man vs bear thing is garbage rage bait that people are falling for. Most women are not that stupid and we should probably allow the ones that are to choose the bear so they don't procreate

Uh, try sitting in criminal remand court sometime. One city that I clerked in had a remand count just for domestic abuse. It was disgusting. Most bears want nothing to do with people and just want to go their own way

This way men are reacting to this is really hammering home what a bunch of homebody couch potatoes they all are.

!!! Hot take

They know they aren’t safer in the woods with a bear. That’s the fucking point. They’d rather be mauled by a bear than be in the woods with a man who may kill, grape, them etc.

Why are we still on this topic? CAN WE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE😭

Most men aren’t dangerous. If you’re worried about gun should do the trick.

Or it’s just because most women have already been assaulted by a man

yea its just 40% of the women who will divorce you.

I wish you to be reincarnated as a woman in a rural India.