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Yeah, it entirely depends on what is being discussed. For example, someone asks “are apples or oranges better?”, No gone gives af about your gender. But if the question is asking “are periods actually painful?”, Yes gender will be relevant.
Not really if most the women are saying yes it’s painful and one woman says no it’s not that still doesn’t change anything
But if this previous said something like "every women suffers from period cramps" then it's relevant for someone to say "I'm a woman and I don't, so don't say every woman".
Same if it's to counter a broad statement like "all woman love makeup" or "no woman would date an effeminate man". The one that says "I'm a woman and..." doesn't imply that her opinion is better, just that we can't generalise because she's part of the women that don't agree.
Thank you so much, as the woman who usually disagrees with the stereotypes.
No need to comment on anything else. Just up vote this and move on. Well written.
Yes but the one woman saying "MINE DOESN'T HURT" isn't really saying anything valuable. If women in general are trying to get people to take their pain seriously and one person is disagreeing just to disagree, they're derailing the discussion and undermining the work the other women are doing because the topic doesn't affect them personally.
People who don't want to acknowledge how painful periods can be are going to ignore the 50 women saying it's painful on favor of the one woman saying it isn't
Sure, it all depends on context and purpose.
Yep sometimes I get accused of “not understanding how women work” when I make a comment here. I then have to explain that I know because I am one.
And then they call you a liar or whatever the fuck a pick me is
I'm a man and agree with you OP!
I’m human and I disagree
I'm a skeleton, and I agree
I'm a nervous system, and I disagree
I'm a soul and I agree
No you're Satan Claus
I feel like you're missing the point of why people say that sorta thing.
I get where you're coming from. But you have to acknowledge sometimes identifiers are key to a post topics. Not all of course but some need that added context.
Examples
If you're not black, but in a thread about how black people care for their skin, I think I would be relevant for you to notate that you are not black in your post, should you choose to comment
If you're in a thread about about women's periods and etc, and you're a man, it should be noted that you aren't in the key demographic for the post.
If you're not black, but in a thread about how black people care for their skin, I think I would be relevant for you to notate that you are not black in your post, should you choose to comment
If you know your way around black skin for whatever reasons I don't see a need to clarify.
99.9% of white people know literally nothing about black skin and you know it
But for those that do they don't need to say their race. It could be a white person that adopted a black child or children and has sought a ton of advice or research, it could be a dermatologist who lives in a primarily black area, there are plenty of cases that would surprise you.
If you're white with an adopted a black child and are posting about black skincare, it would be very helpful and relevant to post that info so people know how to better help you.
And also that still wouldn't make you an expert on black skin care just because your child is black, if you're not black
And even still, there's still steps that a dermatologist does differently for different racial skin tones because they require different things. Factors of treating melanin and hyperpigmentation on deeper skin is a little different than treating it on fair skin
But the point is not race, it's letting people know relevant info to gain more beneficial advice to the story/post you're in.
If you're white with an adopted a black child and are posting about black skincare, it would be very helpful and relevant to post that info so people know how to better help you.
... If you're the one looking for help, yeah, but that's not really what we're talking about.
And also that still wouldn't make you an expert on black skin care just because your child is black, if you're not black
I'd say 18 years of doing it could certainly put you in expert territory, especially if you've sought advice/help a lot in the past.
It is annoying.
There is reasons sometimes fur it, though.
Like the Warhammer thing right now. I've said I'm A woman to stop the parroting the same old rubbish that women what the lore to change. And then they cannot bear that you don't agree and accuse you of being a misoganist..Or that, as a woman you can't have that opinion.
Apparently, some people think you can't be positive about Stellar Eve if you are female.
Also applies to all kinds of stuff. Sometimes you need a qualifier as to what you are.
Like saying you're a fan of something. Or in relation to skincare or haircare.
Agree on everything except on that last sentence because if it’s a sexist/misogynistic topic then your gender 100% matters
Are you upset with the preface, or the fact they disagree?
It sounds like it’s the latter tbh
People hate to think that demographics aren't monoliths. Yes, some women don't think like you, I'm sure. This is how any population works. It's good to remind people that their bubble isn't the only point of view.
If they have to point out their demographic, you needed it .
Reminds me of when my Ex was talking about abortion rights (she was very pro-choice), and said that she thinks it should be illegal for any man to have any opinions about the matter or make any laws about abortion since they can't have children themselves, and that all the men just wanted to control women. I asked her if she would rather support a male politician who was extremely pro-choice, or a female politician who was extremely pro-life. She said she'd support the female, because even though she agreed with the man, it wasn't his place to talk about the issue.
At least she’s consistent. She didn’t change her stance just because she agreed with the man 🤷♂️
That’s bullshit, where I live abortion is totally legal. All the politicians that unsuccessfully call for it to be banned (84% are pro choice) are female, I’ve never seen a male politician in my lifetime call for it. Maybe because they know it would be career suicide.
The narrative that ending abortion is just a man thing is largely fabricated, women play a huge part in the vote tallies to make that happen. It would never happen without significant support from women, which it has, usually around the 40-45% ballpark depending on what year and which survey you go to.
Well yeah if you’re going to be sexist, expect to be called out on it.
Depends on context
you're still dancing to it's tune tho.
Lol stay mad. Jesus you're salty. I get it if people are going out of their way to be assholes, but you're clearly the aggressor in this situation, lighten the fuck up. It seems likeyou who expects them to change their opinions to match yours because you're a woman and therefore your answer is more correct. Like, do you have any idea the irony of what you posted is? I swear, nobody stops to check if they're guilty of exactly what they're claiming they're angry other people are guilty of before posting. I bet youve said shit like this in the past yourself too, only it matters when it isn't in defense of a man or while agreeing with a man's point, right? Lmfao.
I love how you're so insecure that you literally see any woman that says this as a "pick me" girl, instead of just a person on the internet providing relevant information in regards to the topic, and expressing their opinion. Lmfao, get the hell over yourself.
Lol 💯
I'll be like: "Women should have the right to vote."
One of these girls will be like "I'm a women!! I disagree!!1!1"
Like... just because you're too stupid to vote, doesn't mean I am. Speak for yourself, not the rest of us lmao
As a fellow woman. Let me remind you that we are humans first who come from different walks of life, just because what you belive is to be true dosent invalidate others perspectives.
Its not infuriating for someone to speak up and say "I do not stand with the rest of the mob, even though I look like a part of said mob"
Grow the fuck up and touch grass you do not get to speak for all woman. You can only speak for yourself and your perspective just as I do for mine.
If it's a sex specific argument, the sex of the arguer is relevant. Otherwise you assume that anyone holding a particular opinion is the other sex.
I feel the same when people make homophobic jokes (I'm a bi dude). If I call them out for making those jokes, someone else will say 'well I'm gay/bi and I think it's funny.'
That's just you having a different sense of humor. If they won't respect your sensibilities around you then it's probably a good idea to dial back your contact with them. It's ok to enjoy gay jokes, it's not ok to force them on people.
If it's a stupid sexist misandrist opinion like "all men are bad" or "I'd rather be alone in the woods with a bear than any man" or "kill all men", then yes, is relevant to know that there are some women who call out the bs.
I'm a female NB and no, my opinion isn't more worthy than yours because of my sex or gender. But if you are a sexist bigot, that's why your opinion is shit, not because of your gender.
But yeah, it's fucking disgusting to generalize half of human population for the shit some psychopaths do, but when those misandrist assholes proceed to call all men opinions invalid just because they are men, then yes; it's necessary for people of different genders to still call out your bs, welcome.
I have a boss that says I’m adopted so my opinion on abortion means more. Stfu.
Its the "And Im not misogynistic because my mum is literally a woman" vibe. The "I literally have a black friend" vibe.
I find this annoying about most qualifications. "I've been doing X for 100 years and..." It -can- add context, but if that's your sole reason for why you should be believed or supported, it kind of falls flat for me.
On the other hand, I actually do qualify on posts sometimes when I think my privilege should be checked. If what I'm saying is in support of someone doing their own thing regardless of what others think (which is a stance I hold often), I do mention that I'm a straight white male because, obviously, I've had the luxury of doing what I want without really having to worry about people criticizing me too much. I feel that it's important there, but yeah, overall, the qualification shouldn't be the evidence for support, maybe just for context.
exactly! I'm just like good for you, but that doesn't means others agree aswell. Stop also speaking for us aswell! You're just as obnoxious as the person you're calling out. They're doing the same thing they're fighting against.
Strongly agree! The pick mes are obnoxious, and so are the rah-rah girls' girls.
I'm not a fan of anyone who discounts another person's observations on the basis of gender. The idea that a man somehow wouldn't be able to contribute any insight on a woman's issue based upon his observations of other women is every bit as absurd as women being spoken down to "because it's a man's world." Neither gender is blessed with some infinitely wise and informed perspective that the other just wouldn't get.
How hard is it to just hear what the person is saying objectively and take it with a grain of salt? Oh, Sally thinks that real men should lay their jackets on the ground so women don't have to walk through mud? Interesting, I'll have to keep that in mind. Unfortunately, Sally doesn't pay my dry cleaning bills.
And then you just move on.
You mention sexism in this example, which means that gender is completely relevant in this scenario. It seems like you're more irritated that another woman didn't choose your side and you can't simply call her a sexist to win the argument.
I get it, but it’s just a time saver.
If I don’t clarify my “credentials” up front, there will almost always be a comment that says “what the hell do you know, idiot. You can’t even relate” then I have to explain how I relate, and it’s an unnecessary back n forth lol.
Then you should also agree that knowing it was a man who said the sexist remark is also irrelevant.
You use derogatory terms like "pick me girl" and think your opinion on other women holds any weight? Baffled.
Whenever I see, 'as a woman', it's invariably followed by either a load of rubbish a woman wouldn't say or a load of pick me shite.
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Gender can be relevant, if it's on a topic that only affects one gender.