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Staggering 82% don’t think Biden should still run for president: Post poll
The 18% were Redditors.
Nice
Or government employees.
And bots.
...who get most of their news from The View!
I think the 18% are us (conservatives). I know I want to see him run because the Democrats need to sleep in the bed they've made.
See it ALL the way to the end, I say.
Good point. Probably true.
My guess is it’s a decent split. I wouldn’t be surprised if 9% are dems who think Biden has name recognition and swapping him out would cause more chaos with an ill defined upside. They probably don’t think he’s fit to run, but believe he has the best shot at winning which is all that matters to them.
And yeah, I also wouldn’t be surprised if 9% are conservatives realizing Biden is gonna give an easy win. They don’t think he’s capable, but do believe that him running offers the best chance of a Trump presidency.
conservatives realizing Biden is gonna give an easy win
See, that's not it for me at all. My desire is for the Democrats, the media and everyone on the left to be forced to endure this entire fake presidency to the bitter end. The plandemic, the 2020 vote rigging, the massive fraud...all of it...was done so that they could install Biden the Puppet as president. That is a FOUR YEAR JOB and they've teed him up to be their nominee again because, while this is the party screaming about "Democracy", their nomination process is the most laughably un-Democratic exercise in existence. I don't know why they even bother with the sham of primaries because they simply don't honor the results via their "super delegates". It's utter BS.
The media have been running cover for this clown for years and years and the debate finally exposed to the American people just how big a scam has been perpetrated on the country by his party. You know we still haven't seen Obama's student application to Columbia, right? Never will either. This party has been bending the rules and outright cheating for decades and it was Trump's surprise victory in 2016 that threw whatever long range plan they had into chaos...and that happened because the media, in their absolute arrogance, decided to mess with the coverage of the Republican nomination process by highlighting the candidate they considered a buffoon and who would have zero chance of interrupting Queen Hillary's coronation: Donald Trump. Oopsie.
Decades of manipulation of the American public and the world ended in a 12 minute span on June 28, 2024 in the most ridiculously rigged-to-favor-a-politician-ever debate...and they fumbled so badly that everyone with an IQ above the temperature of tap water can now see it.
I want them to be forced to carry this charade all the way to their political gallows in November. Anti-American, woke, leftist DemoMarxism needs to be expunged as a viable political ideology in our country now and forever. We're here because they did this to themselves...and now I want it to go all the way to their effing grave with it.
That sounds about right: half of them Conservatives who think the replacement would have to be a better rival to Trump, which would be a bad thing for him, and the other half Dems afraid that either the replacement themselves or the process of ejecting Biden this late would end up as an even weaker challenge.
I'm torn. With the first debate this bad, maybe as long as Biden turns up to the second debate wearing clothes it will seem like he's improved, and recover a bit of support?
If you were Trump, would you rather face someone competent, or word salad about "world warvietbluh"? They were asked about abortion - a weak spot for Trump particularly post Roe - and Biden replied by rambling about illegal immigrants murdering and raping, "and they can do nothing about it". I'm pro choice and I still can't pick anything out of Biden's word salad to defend. Couldn't virtually any politician alive have fielded that one better?
Including Biden!
And 18% of the population shouldn’t be able to drive, operate heavy machinery or be left alone with children.
So, Joe Biden.
18% is the anyone but Trump party
Or the "Trump can defeat this guy by default, any replacement would be a bigger threat to Trump"?
The 18% includes me though, a partisan right wing Republican though. We should all be hoping Biden stays in the race. He is the easiest guy to beat right now.
LOL. I want him to run so we can win
I want him to run, they have no momentum now and if they replace him with a fresh face with will spark a greater interest in voters.
I wouldn't mind leaving a few of the under bidens supervision.
All Conservative should want Biden to run. He’s our best chance at winning. So count me as part of the 18%.
He never should have been president, but for now, we need him to continue to run and lose to Trump.
Someone needs to pull a Weekend at Bernie with him. Keep him propped up. Just until Nov.
I should of added the reason for this is as follows: Bidens replacements would need a dark horse that the US doesn't understand how terrible they are. 1) Kamala - I've read a number of books about how she made her way up the San Fran political ladder. She kept evidence hidden and failed to charge Catholic Church's during her tenure. Oh and she can't say a single sentence that doesn't sound like a 8th grade education. 2) Big Gretch - my former State of MI Gov. She takes credit where she didn't do a Damm thing. Ie. Car insurance overhaul. Laughable because substantially reduced catastrophic claims even for those already seriously injured, Big Gretch hands win for car insurance companies not citizens Along with handing or very billions to insurance companies Big Gretch allows insurance companies to keep $2b To add insult to injury Gretch and fellow Dems created a one time $400 rebate to MI drivers. Oh Daddy was CEO of MI Blue cross blue shield. 3) Newsom - this is who anyone should be worried about. Not much is known as he doesn't make national headlines other than when he's eating at French laundry in Napa. Did anyone see his debate with Gov DeSantis? He said with a straight face more folks were moving from FL to CA!!!! Yes he's charismatic but if that's what folks vote on then I can't help you. 4) Michelle Obama - not well seasoned if asked questions from anyone other than close friends.
Dems. Best chance of pulling the wool over the American people. Is Newsom.
It will be very interesting to see what happens when they pass up the minority female for the straight, white male.
That should terrify us. Newsom destroyed California not that it wasn’t already a cesspool but he made it worse - we need to stop supporting Biden dropping out
You forgot Andy Beshear. Young charismatic governor of a very red state (Kentucky) that appeals to blue collar workers
Him and Trudeau can resign together
Can't believe 18% of the population still supporting this guy
Their whole ideology is predicated on subverting the truth. I’m just relieved it’s not more.
No it's 18% that want him to keep running. I'm in that 18% because I want to win. We have been given a great gift, how bout we don't fuck it up like we always do
Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and trump gave the performance that Biden did during the debate? Lmao. They’re propping him up like a scarecrow to drag his corpse across the finish line. Cause they’re so righteous.
If any Republican president were acting as confused and disoriented as Joe Biden has been for the past 3.5 years, they wouldn't have even made it to the first debate. The calls for resignation and invoking the 25th would be overwhelming.
Don't forget covfefe made international headlines for literal weeks, all over the world. Then Trump had to do loads of interviews to prove his cognitive ability over a typo in a tweet.
You’d have every single Republican telling him to drop out. Every one. Then all major donors would pull their money…Democrats would ruthlessly seize on it, and coast to a 50 state electoral defeat.
For the record, this is what should happen.
I am a trump supporter and i want joe to run. Otherwise, they will be able to sell another stolen election when Michelle Obama gets “the most votes in history”
It took a debate to convince 50% of the population? This shows how media propaganda works for the masses.
81 million votes
my ass…..
The irony here is how you don't see that's an indictment on Trump, not biden. 81 million voted against Trump. No one voted for biden. The country chose a dementia patient over Trump. That's how much the American people hate him.
Trump had the second most votes in American history in that election. Stop living in your bubble. Many Americans support Trump. All it takes is those independents to swing the election. And let’s not forget the amount of democrats who are not voting anymore. Your guy is finished. And let’s not pretend you guys didn’t label Biden’s decline as a right wing conspiracy.
Agreed. I'd add rfk jr wasn't on the ballot last time. He's taking more votes away from Biden than Trump. Jill Stein took 49k from Hillary in 2016 (I think in MI) and Hillary lost by 42k votes.
I would not be so sure rfk is going to hurt biden. He is more of a working guys pick. Biden wanted to mandate vaccines. Rfk has made a career out of being anti vaccinations. Of the two parties, im betting more on the right are against vaccines than those on the left.
Trump had the second most votes in American history in that election.
And who had the most in American history?....Joe Biden. that's how he beat Trump. So the question is, do we really believe biden suddenly became that popular (don't forget how many times he lost in the primaries) or was Trump that hated that biden secured the most votes in history.
Your guy is finished. And let’s not pretend you guys didn’t label Biden’s decline as a right wing conspiracy.
He ain't my guy and I sure as hell am not on their side. The last Democrat president I like is Jimmy Carter, and that's for what he did AFTER leaving office. Terrible president but good man that was trying to help the average American vs hurt them like Clinton Obama and biden. Next one would be jfk. A president for the working class if there ever was one.
81 million ballots cast for Biden, but 81 million people absolutely did not vote for Biden. Just in case you need some help understanding, that means some people voted multiples times (like those registered to vote in two or more states) fraudulently voted as someone else, or harvested votes.
I didn't realize there was evidence for the whole "fraudulent voter" conspiracy?
People here are underestimating how much the left hates this guy. It's not TDS for nothing.
Also of course Biden and Trump got the 1st and 2nd most votes ever. That's what happens when populations rise over time. 2024, 2028, and 2032 also have a decent chance of breaking the record.
Yep. The people here hate me and think I'm a liberal for pointing out the fact that liberals hate Trump and literally prefer a dementia patient.
Something tells me you frequently use the phrase “Life is like a box of chocolates”.
If the media had behaved in 2020 like they are with Biden now, Trump would still be president...you should strongly consider your consumption of liberal media and how to influences HOW you think about politics, and when
None of that matters. What matters is how hated Trump was (and still is) by a significant portion of our populace. Those people were voting against Trump regardless of who the democratic was or how bad he was.
I don’t think he should run, but I want him to because it’ll be a landslide in Trumps favor.
I think it staggering that 18% think he should run.
That 18% can be broken down to 17% Republicans and 1% delusional Democrats.
As a Trump voter, I think Biden should so that Biden will lose.
The 18% who want Joey to still run have got to be on government subsidies. It’s the only answer left. They don’t want their gravy train to end.
Either that, or it’s extremely strong case of TDS.
Wanting him to run =/= wanting him to win
I bet most are Republicans who want Trump to win in a landslide. If they replace him with Newsom, Whitmer, or Beshear we are doomed
But they’ll “vote” for him anyway to keep Trump out. They love the party more than the country.
Who's you money on replacing him?
I DO NOT think Michelle my bell wants anything to do with it. Her and Barry are rolling in money, and she has stated numerous times she hates politics. I do not think she wants 4 years of constant pressure
I love Hilldogs 50/1 odds on betting sites but people just hate her! I guess Gavin is the logical choice but that dude has no chance of winning, especially with the record and they know it
So what do you think?
As a Trumper I 100% want him to stay in the race.
They'll still vote for him though. Trump derangement syndrome is off the charts, and the amount of people still arguing that biden is somehow more mentally fit than Trump shows that.
"Weekend At Bernie's"
Reddit is acting like that was no big deal. Hard to understand
Good. lol.
Not surprising 82% of the post readers would feel this way. I like the post, but the vast majority of their readers are conservatives. Very few liberals or moderates read the post.
Right. It’s a NY Post poll so it’s certainly not a representative sample. The 18% who said Biden should run probably said that only because Biden is easy to beat.
But wouldn’t we conservatives want Biden to stay in the race?
Doubt it. Many feel him being removed or stepping down this late in the game would throw the democratic party into chaos assuring a republican victory. I'm not sure they are right, but that is the popular opinion.
Yea, I always here this chaos argument, and it never holds up:
The Hillary v Obama campaign in 2008 was supposed to be this huge chaos issue - wrong. Trump in 2016 was supposed cause all this infighting and chaos - didn’t matter.
If anything, chaos creates hype and engagement which very rarely is a negative
Ouch...
I think he should run. Easy W.
Well it's a good thing that the elites in power don't care what the people think. They've already decided what is best for us and then they have the operatives of their propaganda machine tell us what it is.
In another staggering statistic, those 82% of people still say they intend to vote Biden.
We want him to run guys. If he runs we win. Call your Reps and tell them not to invoke the 25th amendment
The other 18% are people who’d vote for Biden’s dead corpse for president rather than Trump.
Probably 30% of those will still vote for him anyway.
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And 18% of the population shouldn’t be able to drive, operate heavy machinery or be left alone with children.