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North Africans often refer to subsaharan Africa as just Africa

This seems like weird racism (and to be fair some Egyptians are unfortunately a little racist) but it’s actually not. It’s just Egyptians being Egyptian. Let me explain. These are the first two paragraphs of our constitution:

“Egypt is the gift of the Nile and the gift of Egyptians to humanity.

Blessed with a unique location and history, the Arab nation of Egypt is the heart of the whole world. It is the meeting point of its civilizations and cultures and the crossroads of its maritime transportation and communications. It is the tip of Africa on the Mediterranean and the estuary of its greatest river: the Nile.”

We clearly know we are Africans and say we’re the tip of Africa in our second paragraph of our constitution. But we would regard ourselves first and foremost as Egyptians. There was an Egypt before there was Islam or Arabs or Africa as a term. So that supersedes that and we see everything else as outside of Egypt. Case in point to give you another example: in Egyptian Arabic, when we say “those Arabs are at the road” the word “Arab” means either someone from the Persian Gulf or a Bedouin, when from the outside everybody thinks we are Arab and consider ourselves that.

We are Arab, we are Africans. It’s just that our Egyptian identity is so strong and above all that. So south of sudan is Africa and East of Egypt is where the Arabs live.

I think it’s odd and it’s obvious what’s going on.

Many North African people use African to talk about Sub-Saharans. Just like Middle-eastern countries use Asia to talk about East Asian. It's not something negative.

Poor Egyptian with an identity crisis 😔

Stop dating them. Problem solved

For some reason Egyptians don't think of Egypt as African despite being within the continent itself, instead they think of Egypt and Egyptians and just Egypt and nothing else. Growing up I kind of had an identity crisis, am I Arab? Middle Eastern? North African? So I am north african, I speak Arabic, but I'm not an Arab because I'm Egyptian. Stuff gets confusing when the world relegates Africa to purely black instead of the diverse continent it is, like how Asia is diverse as well. People need to wake up, especially Egyptians, regarding being African

It's not a big deal. Some people identify as Africans. Some identify as Arab, some only as Egyptians. It's up to you to decide which identity you want to identify with. Culture doesn't care about geography.

Indian/Pakistani people generally do not identify as Asian but in the UK they call themselves Asian.

Well I don’t know the conversation or what was going on, so I’m not gonna accuse or defend them, but in my experience Somalis refer to all non-Somali Africans, it was my understanding that other Africans do that with their respective ethnicities.

I don’t think it’s as big a deal as you’re making it out to be, I live in the UK, and people here refer to continental Europe as just Europe, and its people as Europeans, even though everyone knows that the UK is a European country.

Continental divisions are arbitrary anyway. If people want to identify with some other continent I say let them. Isn't the continent even named after a Roman guy?

We North Africans use the term "Africa" sometimes to refer to the parts that aren't Arab/Muslim, not because we don't consider ourselves Africans, we in fact take pride in the fact that we are part of Africa, but because in a conversation with another person, they'll know what is Libya, but they won't know what is Namibia, it's just like how if a Mexican goes to the U.S. he'll tell his family "I'm in America" even though both the U.S. and Mexico are countries from America, Also you refer to him in the post as North African, instead of Egyptian.

As for his race, he's not "Caucasian", Caucasian people live in the Caucasus and he's not "colored", he's just Egyptian just like how you're not an African-American.

From the comments hope those that hold thoughts/dreams of "A One Africa state" starting with monetary(a bad idea to begin with) & ultimately political see them crumble before eyes...

Culture, religion, languages etc are too diverse for this to happen!

Mt. Sinai is technically not in Africa. And Africa, the continent goes beyond its continental plate.

From your own comments it sounds like you've already made up your mind that he's racist and you're just looking to stir the pot or look for reasons to feel good about the fact that it ended. Probably both. This is a dishonest thread, as many that happen in this subreddit when it comes to North Africa vs sub Saharian African.

North African is Africa. It's in the name. The fact that there are racists everywhere doesn't change anything. Period.

We can beat around the bush or just call it what it is; North Africa is foreign occupied territory. This has been the case since they conquered North Africa around 698 AD....They see that area(North Africa) as an extension of the middle east now - no longer African...next on the list is Sudan, Mali, Chad, etc

These folks are not our friends and we need to start behaving accordingly at the national policy level of our countries. The goal is to take our land and resources one country at a time.

Muslim conquest of the Maghreb - Muslim conquest of the Maghreb - Wikipedia

Sudan's Conflict Is Turning Into a Saudi-UAE Proxy War for Gulf Hegemony (foreignpolicy.com)

How Arab fighters carried out a rolling ethnic massacre in Sudan (reuters.com)