This is FICTION, not fact !!!!!
I mean, I'm a RN who works with RNs who believe this shit. The level of knowledge that should be required in certain areas of study for my job is not where it should be. One of my coworkers believes that the chiropractor will do more for your COVID than anything else. She also sells essential oils from an MLM. They might have that nurse friend, but as a nurse, that doesn't mean shit.
Married to a nurse. Some of his colleagues may be very good at their specific job, but are just not big on critical thinking.
It’s totally believable a nurse friend told them this. I’m in a local women’s group on FB and some lady was asking (anonymously of course) how to get documentation for vaccinations without actually getting a shot because she needed it for clinicals. And the amount of other LPNs/RNs chiming in about how easy it is to get a religious exemption was absolutely horrifying.
Like, I’m not personally worried about getting COVID from these morons. But I don’t want them working on anyone in a medical capacity because they obviously are not fit.
I have a very hard time trusting any nurses because so many of them seem to be full of crap. There was a team of RNs that started a whole anti-vax movement here in Canada, and so many people supported them and believed their nonsense just because they're nurses. It really makes me wonder what kind of education you actually need to become a RN?
Honestly, I don't feel like it is enough. I've gone out of my way to learn more about subjects I find necessary to do my job. And I've made sure to do so from sources that are reliable, and well sourced themselves, but too many don't know how to do that or don't care to. Often they will hear something and take it as fact without further research or by researching in a way that can only be described as intentional confirmation bias. There needs to be a greater level of education when it comes to chemistry and biology IMO across the board for nurses. Additionally, I think there should be a better understanding of pharmacology across the board in the medical field. If I'm giving you a medication I want to know about it. If I'm giving a patient a medication I've never seen, before I go in that room, I'm looking up the drug and anything I can that would be relevant in it's use in the care of my patient. But not everyone even bothers to know what the drug is for before they pass it out to the patient.
Your last sentence is unfortunately a big part of why people feel they have to "do their own research" and are losing their faith in the medical field. I don't personally believe every doctor and nurse is just in it for the money. I don't believe every doctor blindly prescribes medication. I do believe it happens often enough to be noticed, however, and it is partly to blame for the situation we find ourselves in now. I still go to the doctor and get my kids and I vaccinated. But I go to any appointment with a certain amount of caution because I simply don't know how interested or updated the doctor/nurse will be.
Modern exams are so often mostly memory tests anyway so to get qualifications you just have to remember the answers. You don't need to understand the information, you just need to be able to remember it. So I can definitely see how a lot of people can get qualified to be a nurse by just remembering the stuff they were told in class without ever truly thinking about or understanding any of it. They know what something is, but they don't know why something is.
It's not enough. Essentially, nursing school teaches students how to pass the NCLEX. It's strategies, not schooling. In my program, chem and bio were optional.
My SO's ex is/was a nurse. She's into reiki, essential oils and anti-vaccine now.
And she wonders why her daughter has gone NC.
I don’t understand why RN’s of all people can actually believe this.
Nursing school isn’t scientifically rigorous
Maybe imaginary ones.
You wouldn’t know them. They live in Canada.
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There’s such an insane leap from “the flu and shingles vaccines are good” to “but the covid vaccine is demonic” that it makes my head hurt.
Last time I got vaccinated, they told me I was getting both flu and COVID shots, and it was 2 shots. There was nothing "sneaky" about it.
I wish they would just throw them together, it was a pain in the ass to get my Covid shot last year!
The first time I made the rookie mistake of given one in each arm, never making that mistake again.
I always vaccinate in 2 arms. (As a person who gives vaccines) unless someone requests otherwise.
The first time I got both at once, I did one in each arm. It almost immediately felt like a mistake, and everyone I talked to said they preferred getting both in the same arm. The next time, I got both in the same arm, and it didn't like "double up" the pain in that one arm like I thought it would, it was definitely the better way to go (to me).
I agree, mostly because I’m a side sleeper and if you do one in each arm there’s no “safe” side. Only made that mistake once, now I only sacrifice the arm on the side I don’t prefer to sleep on!
I got offered flu and covid thru work. I had to opt in to both. Two separate needles, and nothing hidden or sneaky for me either
Bugger, I had Covid and flu vax together last week, one in each arm.
The unfortunate side effect to that is I had to do extra paperwork; my writing hand was sore for entire minutes afterwards.
You should report that to the VAERS registry! If anything bad happens to you after your shot, then it must be caused by the vaccine. Stub your toe on the way out of the doc's office? Blame the vaccine! Get hit by a bus the day after your vaxx? It's the vaxx's fault. Maybe the bus driver was vaxxed too. That makes it two adverse vaccine events for the report!
That's actually how clinical trials are done. That's why there's a long ass list of side effects. If someone gets hit by a bus on the way out of the clinic, how do we know the medication/whatever the trial is about didn't cause the person to not see the bus? Person dies from an unrelated illness? Maybe the trial caused the illness to progress faster/worse.
I thought my professor was fucking with uswhen he told us that. But nope.
I had that done before. One arm hurt more than the other but I didn’t get crazy sick.
Are we good to get a covid booster? I am all for it I just don’t know if it’s time to get that or wait? Opposite of this sub for help lol
Call your pharmacist and ask. I think I’ve had like four boosters over the years.
What is the difference between a "registered nurse" and just a nurse? Where I'm from, we call them just nurse, but I see registered nurse or RN more often online.
In Australia we have registered nurses (RN) and enrolled nurses (EN). A RN will have a bachelors in nursing while an EN will have completed a shorter nursing course.
In USA is the same, the BSc (Nursing) degree holders who pass the licensing exam (NCLEX) are RNs and then there are LPNs (licensed practical nurses) or LVNs (licensed vocational nurses) who have done vocational training for around 1 year and pass the more basic licensing exam (NCLEX-PN) and do basic patient care, but not medical care per se. They often assist with ADLs (activities of daily living) like showers/hygiene, bathroom trips, dressing, eating, and they do basic vital signs assessment and wound care like bandage changes for uncomplicated wounds.
And RN can have their ADN (associates) or BSN (bachelor's) they take the same NCLEX.
Thank you :)
I can't speak for other countries but in the US we have 2 levels of nurses: RN or LPN/LVN (some states use LPN and some LVN). It is essentially a difference in training, schooling, and licensure. You can become a RN with an associates of nursing or a bachelor's of nursing and must take the NCLEX. ADN courses take 2 years, are highly competitive, and that's not including the prerequisites to even apply for the program. LPN, from what I've seen is a certificate program (no degree) still competitive but not as much as the RN program. Isn't as long either as the RN program (ADN). You take a different NCLEX exam called the NCLEX-PN. Another quick example, to get in the RN program at a local technical college you have to take what's called the TEAS exam and get an 85 or higher to even be considered entry into the program but for LPN it is 65 or higher.
There are things that both levels can do as a nurse in their scope of practice and things that only an RN can do. 3 examples I can think of off the top of my head from my last hospital job: 1) a LPN cannot do an admission assessment 2) a LPN must have an RN start the administration of blood 3) a LPN cannot give certain IV push cardiac meds.
I currently work hospice now and a LPN cannot do a hospice admission visit. If a patient is seen by a LPN we have to make sure there is an RN the next visit or the next week because Medicare says a RN has to see a patient every 14 days. A LPN's visit doesn't "count" per Medicare hospice guidelines during patient's EOL. Stupid rules but rules all the same because of the differences in training, regulations, and scopes of practice. There are definitely LPNs I've know over the years smarter and just better all around then RNs we've worked with.
Tldr: It is a difference in training, education, licensing, and scope of practice.
To add to your very extensive explanation, LVN/LPNs can’t do the admission assessment OR assess a patient whose status has changed rapidly. Now they can assess, but their assessment “doesn’t count” as the assessment for that patient whose status changed. Source: am a registered nurse in the US.
Yup, which is frankly ridiculous but eh, what do I know (also a registered nurse). There were definitely some RNs I've worked with that I was like if I ever drop at work they cannot work on me vs the LPNs I worked with at the same place where I was like yes, they could work on me.
And to be clear, there are also LPN (license practical nurse) who are not Registered nurses, but are still called nurses. They have 2 years of education, as opposed to a bachelor's. Plus nurses aids, who aren't nurses, but some will still call themselves nurses to people who don't know the difference. And there are APN/NP/CNM/DNP's, these are BSN/RNs who got further education and have a more advanced nursing role than an RN. So when someone in the US says they are a nurse, it can mean several different things.
Having had shingles, by all means anti-vaxxers, don't get the shingles vaccine.
Enjoy shingles as a pure blood. kisses
I’m so scared of getting shingles before I am allowed to get the vaccine.
If you start getting symptoms, talk to your GP asap. I got prescribed antivirals and my case was mild. Which was good because my outbreak happened on my scalp and face.
I have had a few mild outbreaks of shingles. Since the vaccine, only one.
Since the second improved vaccine, NONE.
Shingles is incredibly painful for old people. This is really vile. On the other hand, after experiencing shingles once or twice, people are going to start loving vaccines really quick.
Got shingles when I was 24. Left me with permanent nerve damage ten years later. I really wish they’d lower the age for the vaccine. I don’t want another flare up - it was the worst
Last I checked, it’s incredibly painful for anyone to get…
In children its called chicken pox and usually but not always less painful.
Shingles is a secondary infection from varicella zoster, and children can absolutely get shingles if they’ve had the initial chicken pox infection.
Hence the word usually. I had chicken pox twice as a kid. It wasn't that bad. It tends to be worse in adults.
You also need to wait 1 year to get the vaccine once you’ve had shingles (or In my case 2 years, since I got chicken pox for a second time a year after I had shingles)
Thought it was just the flu though 🤷🏻♀️
It is just the flu! The government is just using that as an excuse to push the vaccine to kill everybody, because reasons!
Seriously though, the world is super complicated, scary, and random. People fall into these holes because it gives them some sense of control over things when everything else feels so out of control and beyond their understanding.
This!
While I don't have any sympathy for politicians and doctors or scientists who should know better, I try to have compassion for their victims.
I know a friend, who knows a friend, that knows a friend science. Totally trustworthy!
I took all three: checkmate dumbass.
And her RN's friend name is: Ima Madeup!
My grandfather almost went blind (in one or both eyes, idk) bc of shingles. When it’s time I’m getting that vaccine.
Good, let them get shingles lol. See how they feel about it then
But, I thought it was all about "big pharma", why would big pharma only charge for 1 shot, when they could charge for 2.
why would big pharma
World control, mind control, tracking us all constantly, set your hair on fire by remote control, you know the usual
This is moronic, not science! There fixed it.
My babysitter’s best friend’s aunt is an RN. She told me she actually SAW Obama putting microchips into syringes at a U.S.-run biolab I in China. Totally true. /s
What’s this nurse registered on? An offenders list?
I know and work with medical professionals who spout this shit, it’s so sad. They have to tools and training to know better, but just like their pet mlms that very obviously don’t work they will still believe them wholeheartedly and shill them to others.
Wow. I better tell that to my under 50 year old husband who almost lost sight in his right eye due to shingles. He will want to stay away because shingles is so much better.
What a load of shit! My mum has had shingles, I had to drag her to the doctor she was in so much pain and ill. Since then, at every appointment she’s gone to weather be a doctor appointment, hospital appointment with my father, blood test etc every single nurse has told her to have the shingle and flu injection. And my mum doesn’t like getting a lot of injections-she is in NOT antivax. Just doesn’t like needles lol- She makes sure every year she goes and gets those two injections, especially the shingles. Once you’ve had it once you never want it again. I watched her suffer through it and I never want to go through it.
My mom doesn’t mind vaccines and is normally good about getting them. One year she didn’t "have time" to get a flu vaccine and wound up on a ventilator in the ICU thanks to a case of real influenza gone bad. She's a real pain in the ass now about reminding people to get their flu shots.
Shingles is not a yearly injection. It’s 1 & done
It's 2 and done. But yeah, once you complete the series you're done for life, it's not a yearly shot.
Basic medical ethics should be taught more…
You should report that to the VAERS registry! If anything bad happens to you after your shot, then it must be caused by the vaccine. Stub your toe on the way out of the doc's office? Blame the vaccine! Get hit by a bus the day after your vaxx? It's the vaxx's fault. Maybe the bus driver was vaxxed too. That makes it two adverse vaccine events for the report!
Source: trust me, bro
As an RN who had a job where I did nothing but exclusively give COVID and flu shots, I can say is this 100% b.s., and there is too much damned paperwork and there are too many micro-managey steps to vaccine storage and administration for this to ever be factual. My God. Ain't nobody got time for that.
And I once tracked Bigfoot across the islands in the Bermuda Triangle until he disappeared. I'm not sure if the Triangle transported him to Atlantis, or if he fell off the edge of the flat earth.
Yeah, like all register nurses are “in the know,” and more importantly, trusted to not spill the beans.
These morons… always believing the conspiracy and thinking the have secret knowledge…
I mean I’ve also had a lady tell me that her husband was a navy seal and would kill anyone who dared touch her. She was also high on meth waiting for the bus and asked me for a dollar.
I mean, that'd be a good idea to combine them, but they can't sneak it in
RN’s aren’t as clever as most think. Its actually scary how incompetent some are in my experience
FACT: They ARE running clinical trials to have the influenza and COVID boosters in one injection.
I have a conspiracy theory loving coworker who has said several times that "they" are giving cows the Covid vaccine so everyone gets it when eating beef.
I'm so tired of hearing these people at this point. Amazed they can function day to day in the world.
FACT: There is a coronavirus that infects cows. There is a vaccine for it.
https://www.merck-animal-health-usa.com/species/cattle/products/cattle-vaccines?gad_source=1
Lol. And the hits just keep on coming. Just wait until this person gets the shingles. They will change their mind very quickly. I had them many years ago, once, and it wasn’t even that bad of a case. I got the shingles vaccine once I became eligible for it. And I’m still here! And an RN saying this? They do know better yet they repeat this nonsense. Somehow, even with their education, it all goes out the window when it comes to the COVID vaccine.
When I managed a retail joint, had a customer that said they were in medical tell me masks were pointless
This was during COVID
Unfortunately I could see this happening. My mom is a nurse and has many nurse friends who are conspiracy minded. My mom freaked out on me when I got the Covid vaccine and acted like I made a horrible mistake.
I doubt your friend is a registered nurse. Or anything else. Take your meds and fuck off for a while
These are the same nurses that hold back pain meds after open heart surgery because they don’t want you to get addicted. Regardless of what the doctor has prescribed!
What a lie. This person has no friends.