ok, so i've been wondering for a while on the true extent of Divayth Fyr, its common knowldge his power is substantual and he is near the power of the weaker daedric princes in terms of power. he also is most likely still alive by the 4th era since he's so powerful he doesn't age since magika use slows the aging (we know a human mage can live for 190 years average and elven mages can live for 1000+ years) but Divayth Fyr is on his own level of power, and I am curious to how he gained such power? we know he never made deals with daedra for such a thing because one of his fellow Telvanni did make a deal for immortality with the cavate that she would be slain by a man as a curse, and daedra love to curse gifts they bestow. what is the true source of his power?
He was born Chimer in the 1st era. And has been studying and practicing magic ever since. He studied with the Psijics, but left them to go his own way. He treated Sotha Sil during his divinity as a peer, and Sil was fine with that.
Put it simply, he's been at this for millennia.
What's the source of his power? Yes.
Reminds me of how, when LDB asks Neloth why he isn't possessed by Miraak's Bend Will magic over the All-Maker stones in Solstheim. Neloth confesses that he has no idea exactly why, because he has done so much to prevent his will from being dominated or possessed over the years that it could be any number of those things.
For Fyr's source of power I would imagine it's something like that. Dude probably has so many sources and ways of power by now, since while he probably technically still is a mortal he is pretty much closer to divine (as mentioned by OP) at the levels he does operate at.
Reminds me of that random Breton mage who is immortal. He tried to find the way to become immortal, tried out a shitton of ways, then eventually gave up. A few years later he realized he stopped aging and that one of his plans worked, but he had no idea which one.
It's Gyron Vardengroet, who became immortal after eating many different alchemical ingredients trying to discover their effects.
that's only because mages aging slows based proportionality to how powerful they are at their craft. more powerful the mage the slower they age until you get to Fyr's level then the mage doesn't age at all. on average a mage from the races of man on average live for 190 years and elf mages tend to live for 1000 years average but fyr is on his own level all together the dude basically earned demigod status and it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't entertained the idea of forging his own realm of oblivion
I mean in the case of the Breton mage, Gyron Vardengroet, he literally got immortality because directly trying to become immortal
He returned to the Great Library at the Crystal Tower and researched the many flowers, herbs and plants that he had heard about and seen during his travels. In his cottage, he labored tirelessly over the spellbooks, vials and collection of flora from all over the lands. He tested the potions on himself. The years went by, but The Sage seemed not to age anymore. At some point he had found the right combination in his experiments, but could not determine which combination it had been as the change had been most subtle. He had secured a life without end. And the years continued to pass.
You're just telling stuff with no proof. Nowhere is it said that men live up to 190 and elves up to 1000 years average. Fyr is not a demigod, he's just a Telvanni wizard-lord, which again means he's an arrogant and talented wizard who'll often boast his achievements to whoever listens to him in order to appear more than he is. I love Divayth Fyr, he's one of my favorite characters in tes, but you're just telling random stuff saying that there's some lore somewhere that confirms whatever you say. And again, it's not true.
bro, its well established in canon that a magic extends the lifespan of a mage, its the effect of magika use has on a mortal body and the more powerful a mage gets the longer they live for avarage human lifespan is roughly 50-80 years under normal circumstances but a mage will outlive any normal human. this is same with elves, orcs and every other race. its just how magika works on the body. Divayth Fyr has lived for 4000+ years by ESO and 5000 years by morrowind now he never made an immortality deal with daedra because he never trusted the Daedra to not include a clause in any deal he would make, he's lived so long just through his own sheer power and we know magika extends the lifespan of mages because there's so many mages in TES canon history who have lived for a lot longer than most other common folk and not by small margins
It's false; there are different methods of extending life. Fyr probably uses the methods of the Psijic Order, but it depends on the magician's talent and power.
Are you kidding me? I never said that magic doesn't extend lifespans. I only said that assuming magic will automatically increase someone's lifespan is just headcanon and not stated anywhere. Plus, no! Divayth Fyr is not 4000 years old in ESO. He was born in the First Era, we do not know the precise year but since he studied with Sotha Sil before his ascension and met the dwemer in their time it must be before 1E700. The First Era laster 2920 years. In Skyrim he should be around 4000 years old. The only mortal character who's older than him is Miraak, since he probably was alive at the end of the Merethic Era and in Skyrim's time he was around 5000, but now he's dead.
its not, the lore literally confirms mages live longer than non-mages and its something very common in the lore about mages who lived to old age
And where did I say the contrary?