Had my share of questionable recruiter interactions but haven’t ran into this one before.
I know mistakes happen but that seems pretty intentional, considering same company has 7 of the same job openings on indeed with both rates listed.
The posting change was made sometime during my text conversation with recruiter as I still had the posting with old rate open.
Scam
Hi, I'm new to this sub. What's the scam? Obviously taking 10 dollars an hour off the salary is *A* scam, but is there anything else bad to look out for after getting a job like this? Asking for myself
It's not a real job, not a real recruiter. Scammer trying to get your information.
That’s the best possibility. The worst one is being invited and flown on site in south east Asia for an interview for a job that looks interesting, and then having your passport stolen and being imprisoned by a gang that turns you into an online scammer.
There are many gangs who have full blown slavery/human trafficking operations where the slaves are used as online scammers.
(We’re talking about 120 000 people trafficked in Myanmar and 100 000 in Cambodia alone in order to run scam farms)
Oh wow, I didn't even think of that.
Holy fucking shit, I had no idea this was happening.
Woah! Thank you for the info!
Then why change the rate?
Sometimes scammers do things like that to weed out saavy people. They don't want to get 3 months into the scam just for you to get wise.
Don't write a contract with someone's who's trying to defraud you the contract terms.
But here you also have the spelling mistakes and that the recruiter seems unable to follow the conversation. It's because it's an Indian telecom scam. There is no job.
If it's a scam why wouldn't they promise a high salary?
Go ahead and send them your personal info and find out. Be my guest.
Based on the text conversation I’m getting the feeling that this recruiter is based in India and therefore any time spent with them is time wasted.
Do not engage India-based recruiters
100% for a communication block of India by the Western world to combat not just junk recruitment but a major portion of the telescam industry as well.
so what exactly would this "communication block" entail?
Require carriers to properly code country of origin, possible call waiting with a delivered code, similar to activing a stream account on a device, that needs to be input before connecting the call & ringing the recipient.
Also, elimination of caller ID spoofing.
Also, elimination of caller ID spoofing
With the ability to report calls that make it around the filter. Carriers should trend the report data and block offending accounts.
This is not exactly Oxford English either.
I didn't realize we were being graded, J.R.R.
I didn’t realize we were dismissing a whole subcontinent on a Fox news item.
India has so many telescammers that if you, yourself, do not know anyone from India--99.99% of calls you receive from someone with an Indian accent is a scammer.
.1% might actually be a company that's outsourced to India, but you're safest if you hang up and look up the number on the site and call the company back directly to make sure that it wasn't just a telescammer spoofing the number.
But why are so many u.s companies workers are in India? Like even if we call for customer service, the phone gets transferred to India or Philippines somewhere.
Cheap labour
Outsourcing means cheap labor. Someone from the US expects a salary of at least $50,000 US dollars yearly.
According to glassdoor, the average yearly salary of someone working at a call center in India is ₹64,000, that's like $766.
Indians cost like 5/6x cheaper than us workers
We can keep the consulate & embassy lines open.
India refuses to do anything to curb their telescam industry, and this is better than violence.
You forgot to throw in a "Kindly" in here somewhere
Please do the needful.
Kindly check the same
...and then revert back at your earliest convenience.
Reading this comment triggered me way more than I expected. Reminds me of my douchebag old boss I guess.
Many thanks!
Yeah I don’t like hating on people who are non-native English speakers, speaking multiple languages is hard. But unfortunately it is a big red flag seeing writing like this, it is strongly associated with scams in my experience.
Came here to say this.
Getting scam vibes from this one
Idk why lower a salary they’re never going to pay.
Don’t know, but I’ve been in the anti scamming community for some time and the language just reads very scammy. Job posting scams are a very real thing and rising in prominence recently. Maybe they just changed the pay range because they were getting too many high skilled workers. Scams tend to target the most gullible people. Then the scammer had to justify the change after the fact? Who knows
What the hell is a 100% interview slot after the interview?
It’s just nonsense the scammer is spouting to try to communicate in a language they don’t understand
I had a 99% interview slot once, it was horrible
I smell a scammer
*Sorry. I only work with professional recruiters" is a statement I'm getting used to saying.
This is why I advocate taking a screenshot of the posting and avoid postings that have no salary listed. It does reek of scam vibes.
RUN
Recruiter speak many Good Engrish.
What are the requirements to become a recruiter? Speaking English doesn't seem to be one.
Honestly, you are far too polite. The ONLY ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE TO THIS:
Fuck the fuckity fuck off,
I wish you'd all stop dealing with recruiters. Please Tell them:
You can pass along my details to the hiring company I will only discuss it with them I will not be tested evaluated or scrutinized beyond this point by you If they are interested, they can contact me.
Otherwise good day...
And that is far too polite...
Just ask what company it is for, go to their website and apply directly. And then tell the scammer to eff off
I've stopped dealing with them. I wish everyone else would too.
Scammers
Scam.
This took off, I just wanted to vent for a bit as I’ve been trying to get a decent-paying job and keep running into this type of stuff lol.
Both the recruiter company and the ‘client’ company they’re recruiting for are legit companies; I’m half-tempted to forward this to the client company and see if this position is even real.
I think this behavior is part of a standard bait and switch with pay ranges. I applied to a job with an $80-140k range, the job post was taken down, and the recruiter on the phone stated the range as $80-105k.
This was from a nationally known corporation and an internal recruiter.
The person you are speaking with those little English
I’m getting e team, inc vibes from those messages. Indian based recruiter. Which my fiance just got released from and we couldn’t be happier. Stay. Away.
Just reply you will 100% show for an interview at the original rate.
Indian scam. Send some creepypasta images their way and block them.
Let us fucking “go”, as they say
Don’t sell yourself under value
I asked career councilors on how to avoid these bait and switch situations. They went back to their script and asked me where my passion was, so I reallocated all of my career development time to fiction because fiction authors actually address problems presented in the narrative.
Who talks like that?? Holy moly
How is that legal?
It’s a red flag, keep looking and send out more resumes out, don’t accept that job as that employer will screw you over.
If there is even an employer involved, which I doubt.
True, it’s weird.
Scam
Right now, American corporate is in a bait and switch mode. Unbelievable, and Washington DC does not care
Went down a whole $20k a year. Wow
Might not be a scam. Contract recruiting agencies usually outsourse recruiting to India. However, they're usually not worth dealing with.
“Bait & Switch” …. Lol
This is 100% a scam, my company had some scammers post jobs (not these particular ones) on Indeed and pretended like they were representing a recruiter working for us as well as our HR, sent out job offers to people, and then were scamming them with the 'order your equipment and send us a check' schpiel. Just because a job seems real based on 'who they are' -- unfortunately doesn't mean anything. We had people emailing our support inbox bitching about how we stole money from them for about a month before our leadership was finally able to figure out what was going on and how.
Recruiter here - that’s a scam
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