In the event of direct conflict with China, which is our biggest threat, or just all out world war 3, what’s everyone’s game plan. I’m curious.
What are you doing in the event of WW3?
Prepping for DoomsdayHead down to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for the whole thing to blow over
A man of culture I see
Boy, the humans sure would be baffled if they walked into a bar and saw the three of us sitting there.
DON'T STOP ME NOW
How’s that for a slice of fried gold?
Don't forget your towel.
Shawn of the dead?
They're not going to attack, they're literally purchasing our land out from beneath us. The war they're waging is an economic and digital one.
This is true. I just watched a documentary called "The Grab." Rich people are more dangerous than nuclear weapons at this point...
I agree. Professional CEOs and corporations have become as big of a threat as nuclear proliferation.
Corporations and the people who run them and sell out the west to foreign powers should be labeled as traitors and treated as such.
I’m going to ask a very divisive question, but I am truly curious and serious. Do you currently see this as something the left or the right in American politics is contributing more to? I am starting to feel like there is so much corruption on both sides as well as incredible bias in most of us for our side and against the other that I’m starting to really wonder who is to blame and who is to be trusted.
left and right is a false dichotomy made to divide every country into two opposite sides
SPOT ON.
Two sides exist, ruling class and working class
Yep. All to divide and conquer. They divide you over bullshit that doesn't matter so that the elites can keep us repressed.
ever seen manufacturing consent, noam chomsky?
he basically says that a lot of things like political talkings points and hot button issues to sports news dominating some peoples lives, all effectively serve to distract the working class, making it easier to control the masses and make underhanded moves for power, control, and money.
they'll use outrage, shock, and fear in very intentional ways to enact their measures, such as the patriot act extending surveillance and data collection to a previously unheard of degree.
he explained it far better than i ever could tbh. the gist of it is that "left" and "right" don't matter. it's all a shell game, keeping us comfortable enough to play, thinking "i could win here" while the showman's partner walks through the crowd of people watching to steal their wallets while they're distracted.
It's definitely both, all politicians (from both sides) benefit from the corruption that enriches them, and currently they have no incentive to improve the status quo, so why change it?
The Left v Right fight IS the diversion!!!!!! There is no such thing!!!! It’s the same fucking bird!!!! We fight over Left v Right and they get richer/more powerful!!!
Liberal political parties are just conservatives with more steps. It seems that most liberal parties actually fall center right as opposed to truly left, and right wing parties go hard right. Both sides are as corrupt as is possible to be, they just hide it better than the outright and almost flaunting corruption of, say, Russians.
I really enjoyed fallout. The critique of capitalism was a welcome plot addition.
Now I’ve got a new doc to watch! Thank you!
You know, I think rich people have the most to lose in a war. It’s the poor people who have nothing to lose that will be the most dangerous. Look at Kenya, the children are burning everything. They don’t care.
Look at the history of war and the enormous fortunes built off of it. Look at who dies fighting, it isnt the wealthy, powerful elites. They have been gaining nonstop and war is a part of that.
That’s why the masses need to overtake thrice and eradicate the Billionaires! I suggest starting with Gates and Zuckerberg
Agree 1000 percent. They have nothing to lose. The underdog always catches that blindspot in others.
Right now?
Yup.
I lived in Malawi for a while. The children were so eager to learn in outdoor ‘under the tree’ schools. Now they must see what they don’t have and are rebelling?
Actual facts.
The rich are the ones who profit from war while the children of the poor die. Those who exploit know no national bond and only have one loyalty... to their dollars.
Ya, we really need to stop pandering to the wealthy...
Why do they always send the poor
Kneeling roses disappearing into Moses' dry mouth Breaking into Fort Knox, stealing our intentions Hangars sitting dripped in oil, crying, "Freedom!" Handed to obsoletion, still, you feed us lies from the tablecloth
The issue is that no leader really wants a world war or an incident that takes us to the brink like the Cuban Missile Crisis (certainly not the Rich as it would reshape the world in a way that would really hurt them), however they have still happened in our recent history. Human beings are more than capable of great destruction.
Also the nuclear powers are back to building up the numbers and sophistication of their nuclear arsenals again, moving away from the strategic arms limitations treaties and escalation limitation strategies that came out of the Cold War. That is a very worrying development and not even the Rich of the world have been able to prevent that.
They sure have been building a lot of mansion bunkers.
I just finished the book Raven Rock. It’s about how the government plans to save itself. Good read.
I got an idea. If we start World War III right now superpowers won't be able to get more nukes and at best use everything they have but without the ones they would have built otherwise. /S
The Grab is crazy. Every prepper ought to watch that.
Where did you watch this?
Digital one for sure. We should start having cash on hand and water stored. Personal documents ready. Non-perishable items and multiple lighting sources.
Basically anything that would survive if your power and communications went out.
I mean it’s important to just have a natural disaster bug out bag.
I'm personally getting into cyber security right now to work on these SCADA systems that control critical infrastructure. I would say not to worry so much about a cyber attack on those. They are isolated networks. They would have to infiltrate the actual buildings or compromise someone who works directly with the computer networks of these infrastructure buildings to do any damage. And they aren't all connected together.
hahahahahaha... SCADA engineer here. Boy you will see some shit doing this. From water to electric and oil to gas I have been doing this 31 years and I can tell you they aren't that isolated in every case.
Go read about STUXNET.
There was also that incident in FL where someone remotely accessed the network and turned up the amount of lye that goes into the water. Someone just happened to see it and undid it, IIRC.
That's good to know and all the more reason to get on board to help you guys. I know you're dealing with a lot of legacy stuff but I assume a lot of it would need to be accessed in person to fuck with right
Or they can just attack the vulnerable infrastructure that's accessible to the public
The proliferation of drugs to western countries, moving military age men abroad, stealing tech, buying real estate abundantly and infiltration of our political and media systems are their hybrid war tactics. Win without firing a shot.
War isn’t in the trenches in 2024.
People keep saying that... ok fine. So if the crap hits the fan can't we force sales (at a minimum) from hostile states of domestic property/commodities? We're not gonna sit back and say, "dam, wish we had some good farmland of our own, our people are starving!" We're going to take that land, with or without compensation by eminent domain, am I wrong?
Assuming the U.S. government did seize foreign land holdings, they would simply bundle and sell them to the likes of Blackrock at sweetheart prices. Either way, rank & file voters are getting bent over and piped.
They own big businesses/corporations too.
This. We are already in ww3. Just that it’s not bombs. It’s the economy. It’s social media. It’s robotics. Soon it will be AI.
They are also moving to control the Panama Canal and the Darien Gap. China will control the nexus between N. America and S. America and between the Atlantic and Pacific.
Holy bejesus… they really are working to control all shipping logistics and the ocean waters. Bypassing sanctions, possible satellite, and hacking warfare.
I’ve said before it’s as if we’re playing a large game of RISK. Geographical positioning but they’re playing the slow game yet it’s effective.
I have faith in our military intelligence capabilities. It’s just American’s have “first world problems” and that’s the easiest target. Our citizens wouldn’t know what to do except buy toilet paper.
Here in Australia, the one of our state governments privatized the Port of Darwin and granted a Government Owned Chinese company a 99 year lease to run it……..it’s also used by our navy to patrol our northern border……and US ships….and the US has a 2500 US Marine rotation through this port.
Yeah homie Australia and New Zealand are both Chinese colonies at this point
There’s a reason they took away your guns. While guns aren’t the final or best answer they do cause a lot of disruption and damage. Powers want the easy route to tyranny.
That's just the perception of Australia. In my state there's still 1 million registered firearms (and growing) and 8 million people....just no auto/semi automatic and broadly no pistols. The ratio is even higher in some states.
They are all over Costa Rica.
They also moved into Afghanistan after we left and have control of the lithium mines. They've done the same in Africa.
Don't forget that trump, brexit were inside jobs that accomplished exactly what russia and china wanted. To weaken the west from the inside by using social media to amplify dipshits from both sides of the political isle.
What china and russia really don't want is for the US and Europe to elect moderate leaders that unite the population.
I'll give credit where credit is due. Putin knows russia can't match nato on the battlefield, but he understood social media + millions of marginal educated dipshits = an internally weakened enemy. Google maskirovka.
We should find a way to broadcast free uncensored social media to the masses in China and Russia and watch what happens to their country lol.
This here. All the damn extremist talk about nuclear war and they’re building super sonic nukes. It’s such a Cold War way of thinking, nuclear war will never happen, and if it does rub it in my face all you want cuz most of the world will be dead including me. Honestly it’s stupid but if you watched the mock movie called American blackout I’m sure attacking logistical targets are much more in their game plan like power, water, communications etc. I read somewhere that if in ww2 the Allie’s spent 1 percent of the bombs they dropped on the factories instead on the power grid it would’ve sent Germany back to the stone ages and would tendered the factories obsolete.
My second comment. They are probably just probing for a digital 9/11 or Dec 7 1941. They are already one step ahead of the game by placing favorable politicians and judiciary in their positions. Listen to me now. It is the duty of every American to purchase as many firearms and ammunition as your budget allows. This will either prevent an attack or allow the patriots to do what they need.
This is their strategy. America, like others before them, went it with soldiers. China is going in with bankers.
They're all throughout Africa and SE Asia, too, loansharking, getting bribes to corrupt leaders, etc. Sihanoukville in Cambodia is absolutely ridiculous. Laos has entire cities of Chinese people running scams, casinos, etc. It's really hellish.
If push comes to shove, I suppose these countries (and the US as well) could just nationalize Chinese holdings. The global economy would tank, but then again, it'd probably do the same in an actual war.
Yeah, China has already pulled back on a lot of overseas financing due to payment issues. They didn't have a lot of prior experience financing overseas projects and got burned on a fair number of them. The US and Europe have a lot of tools to "encourage" payment compared to China.
That isn't to say they won't regroup and learn, it just isn't the threat it's been hyped up to be.
Kind of wish they would do something as stupid as attack. It'd finally motivate others to take action.
Death by a 1,000 cuts my friend
That is probably what it would take to unite the country, that or alien’s landing on the White House lawn and saying, “hol up, they never told you we were coming?”
This nation is so messed up that even 9/11 only united us for a short period. And people are already forgetting 2020.
So true and so sad.
I can totally imagine a scenario where aliens landed on the White House lawn and said “hol up, they never told you we were coming?”. We'd have the media telling us it's a MAGA conspiracy. At least 25% of the nation pro-alien, another 20% claiming it's a fake CIA false flag operation. 80% of the politicians immediately kissing alien ass to get whatever they can. etc.
The movie Mars Attacks might as well be a documentary from the future.
The rich are going to sell off America to China.
Surely they’d rather let the US fall into civil war before they actually waged an attack
And why would they purchase all this land from the US, most of which is around military bases? 🤔
Don't forget all the dope they are shipping here boat after boat after boat loads.
Yeah we are already in a cyber and economic war with China.
Word on the street says we are losing
If it stays outside the states, nothing. If it comes here, nothing but quietly.
Arguably we're already in WW3, so whatever I'm currently doing.
Fifth generation warfare is ongoing
Bruh done war is terrifying. Legit the stuff of sci-fi nightmares and it's still in the nascent stages of development.
Arguably we're already in WW3
At least the opening innings, where the flame has been lit but is still smouldering and sputtering, not having quite taken hold but with a very real potential to erupt into a full conflagration.
I see multiple triggers in play:
- The Ukraine where Russia is concerned, and Russia’s need to push back against the West before it itself collapses.
- Israel and it’s actions in the West Bank, especially in terms of it’s “relations” with surrounding Islamic countries.
- China and Taiwan, and China’s behaviour in the South China sea. Thanks to the semiconductor industry, America has no choice but to vigorously defend Taiwan with everything it has.
- North and South Korea, especially with North Korea’s nuke program and China’s support of North Korea.
There are likely more potential sources, these are just the ones I am keeping a close eye on. India and Pakistan also are high up, especially with India’s swing to a hard-right anti-Islamic/anti-minority government, but I haven’t heard much about that as of late.
Yep
making sure my friends dvd set is in the firesafe
I get that reference lol
Friends? Firefly for me. lol
Make sure you get the whole series, not just the first seaso....oh wait. 😞
Shiong mao niao, that was uncalled for.
Smoke a j and take the dog for a walk
there it is
I'll get super mario'd (my way of expressing getting very lit) and play online :P
Nuclear exchange? The most likely scenario is die, but in reality no one knows until it happens.
I always assume it’s except that😂🤷🏾♂️. If that happens, we pretty much cooked. I will say, I think that’s more probable than a land invasion of the USA.
Yeah, my expectation from most likely to least is economic/trade war and information war (arguably we're here) --> proxy wars/attacks (not happening on a large scale, yet) --> cyber attack on critical infrastructure and finance --> limited nuclear exchange --> full nuclear exchange --> invasion from outer space --> ground invasion of the US
China actually has very small nuclear arsenal compared to US or Russia.
Chop wood carry water.
Right now? I'm planting hazelnuts, pear trees, apple trees, chestnut trees, peach trees, blueberry bushes, nannyberry bushes, encouraging my strawberry patch to spread, saving seeds from my veggie patch that is bursting with tomatoes, and making plans to off the damn groundhogs in our neighborhood. They're so much worse than the bunnies.
I have other things that we've set up in case of power disruption, and as always, my trusty electric cargo bikes will be reliable transportation if gas is unavailable.
Well I’m a Chinese person living in North America so I’m probably either going to get sent to some euphemistically labelled concentration camp, or join some Chinese American suicide battalion to prove I’m not a traitor. In the event of the first situation, I promise to post the location of my prepping cache on here so that my supplies don’t go to waste.
(I wish this was hyperbole, but this is literally what happened to the Japanese Americans in WW2 / the Nisei battalion also in WW2, who I must add, served with great distinction)
Oof!! Or you could hide out in a white (and presumably christian) family’s house like Anne Frank. :‘( probably past that with surveillance and all.
Honestly not a bad idea lol, I gotta start sending cookies to my neighbors to lay the groundwork for a Frank family attic hideout
I know a lot of white people who have hidden areas in their homes they’ve talked about using for this purpose. It’s not crazy!
Not a bad idea to get to know the neighbors either way. I just moved to this area a couple years ago and people still look at me sideways.
I'm Filipino, but my wife is Chinese/Vietnamese, and we live in Oklahoma. We're definitely gonna get tossed in a concentration camp and live in homes with no ac or heat.
brother imma share my camp rations with you if that ever happens, I gotchu
Thanks, I appreciate it. If I wasn't married, I'd volunteer and fight right next to you.
this is morbidly hilarious lol
Maybe get a job working at a factory of some sort.
Probably just end up paying more taxes to be honest.
Probably die. At best I'm Team B- not a fighter but i have valuable skills so people will want me to stay alive.
WOLVERINNEEESSS!!!
Same as an EMP/Cyber attack- preparing for a 1+ years of grid down scenarios. Adding additional preps as needed. (Potassium Iodate, Masks, etc)
Drinking heavily
Well I am now.
Yeah if WW3 happens with nukes, this (along with bending over and kissing our asses goodbye) is the realistic approach for most.
Shoot, weld, learn c++
I'll be dying. I live and work within 10 miles of a nuclear sub base. My area will just be craters. Several of them. I won't have enough time to get far enough away to survive.
My only chance would be to get in a boat and sail straight east, away from the coast. That ain't gonna happen.
Sounds like CT if I had to guess
edit: and if I’m right, that’s not even mentioning the placement between NYC and Boston. It’ll be a shit show all around lmao
At least I'll finally have that inground pool!
Going to work like always
Depends on if it’s nuclear or not. If it’s, I’m bugging out asap to my mountain cabin. If conventional, I’ll sit tight until supply chain or sanitation disruptions force my hand.
Plans to enlist and fight for my country (Canada), if we ain’t involved well just another day on the farm.
If its with China they wont move against us directly as they don't really have a Navy nor can their logistics go that far.
Any fight with China will be in the Pacific. They wont launch Nukes as that opens another front they simply cannot fight.
Even if our Pac forces get obliterated in the Pac, China would not be able to amass enough troops or muster the Logistical machinery in which to Invade the our mainland. Not even Russia our nearest combat peer could do it through Alaska.
Anyone who has worked in Supply or Logistics will tell you that every mile you have to travel or move equipment it gets harder.
I agree that China probably won't perform kinetic strikes against the US mainland. I'm personally worried about the cyber attacks that would occur and the resulting disruptions. If we ever do go to war with China we will probably figure out what systems critical infrastructure (civilian and military) systems are secure and what has been compromised.
If ever it breaks out, will bug in but unfortunately still stocking up on supplies.
I am from the Philippines and I am leaning on the thought that China will not fire the first shot. They are projecting might but are not prepared for the consequences of war. They have their own economic struggles to deal with driven by housing collapse (literally and figuratively) and public is expressing dissatisfaction via lying flat and letting it rot (heck, the Ph.D.'s and Master's degree holders are delivering food as there is no available work for them).
Enlist and fight for your country 🫡
Y’all gettin drafted boys
And girls..
Only if i can bring my Gucci kit
isn't there a bill about to get passed making it so women are also gonna be in the drafts? equal rights, equal oppertunities, equal deaths.
Have you read or seen The Road? I’m on the wife’s side of that solution.
I believe our infrastructure (electric, water, gas pipelines, banking) will be hacked. Not every system will go down, but just 20% effectiveness will cause chaos. Get solar, store water and food, have cash on hand. Get to know your neighbors. A community will do better than someone trying to go it alone.
I also believe China will have help from Russia, Iran and N. Korea. This will be a multifront war and costly to everyone. The USA must not be an isolationist nation. We must support our allies in NATO and Australia, New Zealand, Japan and S. Korea. India and Pakistan will also play a huge role.
China’s Belt and Road initiatives in Asia, Africa and South America have given them economic advantages and a monopoly to extract resources.
We have allowed China to buy 345,000 acres in our country. Most of this acreage is adjacent to military bases. It’s time to take this land back.
The Chinese don't need to hack infrastructure when their sabotage teams can walk over the border and buy tools at Home Depot. I would bet $10 that there are already teams in the US ready to act if there is a war.
I've seen the videos of the ones that were caught at the border standing at parade rest. They are here.
Now we’re fucking talking.
Mexico, I live in tijuana now, too close to major weapons manufacturer (6miles) and major navy shipyard. So south, maybe Puerto Escondido, w/ my dog and 4 X 4, some fishing nets, water filters, tent/hammock and motorcycle
When I was a mere child in grade school during the Cold War I remember a similar question being asked of one of the bikers my Dad ran with. The biker said he was just gonna stick his head between his thighs and kiss his arse Goodbye! I've remembered that for over 60 years. If it does come down to an attack between either Russia or China, that will likely be what most will need to do. Presently I'm in an area that isn't shown on the "Attack First" maps. Of course, that doesn't mean much. They will likely attack via the hypersonic rockets. Less than 30 minutes to get here. They can be explosive only, contain nuclear products, or even chemicals. If, IF they ever attacked, no amount of "Rules of engagement" nor the Geneva Convention would be effective. No Rules! I don't "think" they would initiate a ground attack in the beginning. They are aware of the number of people who are armed. They also know there are certain groups who are prepared to fight them to the death to protect their area. That would be MOST of the gangs. Again, I'm far enough out, I wouldn't have to worry about them for a while. I have provisions to keep me reasonably fed for almost 6 months. I have propane put back (safely) to be able to run my two generators for a while. Only use them when absolutely needed. I have a battery bank setup as emergency power for my Ham Gear, and charging my HTs. Will I survive? I don't know. Will I go out fighting?? Damned Straight.
Go bowling
Fuck it Dude, let’s go bowling.
Some burgers. Couple beers. Couple laughs. Our fucking troubles are over dude.
Let’s be honest, I’m just going to sit there and accept my fate like a good little peasant.
What I am literally afraid is being that ‘lone woman flailing my arms in that picture of a napalm attack’ during ww2? I am so disconnected from any family that cares, that I wouldn’t know where to go. Ideally I would like to have friends that care about me enough to leave a bug out bag at their place. But people turn wacka doodle in crisis.friends will become strangers. Strangers will become friends.
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Probably right for the USA.
However geographically, I think any one in Taiwan, Europe, or middle East should be preparing for war.
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Well, considering it's likely a lot of Russian and Chinese bots that are stoking the fires of civil conflict, they're doing everything they can to collapse us from the inside.
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Ww1 demolished the economies of both sides too. They were each others largest trading partners.
I think civil war is far more likely than war with China. Our biggest threat is actually our own government. Not China.
I’m sure they would go hand in hand
I'm with some other folks in here that I don't think there will be a direct full out conflict on American soil with China, but my answer regardless of what's causing it...
I'm hunkering down in place until the initial attack has subsided and then joining whatever force is left, hopefully as support staff. I know how to repair vehicles, cook, maintain buildings, even brew and/or distill booze.
Personality wise I'm not the guy you want in a front line situation, but I'll give what I can. I'M DOING MY PART!
If a major ground war kicks off, I'm going back into the service. Be part of the Old Breed of GWOT combat veterans that miss putting people into the ground, help keep the new kids from dying too fast.
I’m smoking a brisket. Gonna make brisket queso and burnt ends. Gonna crack open a few cold, cold ones and watch the world suffer.
Seriously the weather will probably fuck us harder before the Chinese get a chance . I am just waiting for the next flood or fire or heatwave to wipe me out .
I've finally convinced my dads side of the family, my dad 70 and his parents in their late 80s, that climate change is real. They won't straight out admit to it, but they have certainly dropped their once strong opinions on it.
I also have a separate group of conservative friends who have also started to admit the weather seems awfully rough the last few years.
When both parties start agreeing to the same thing, you know something is very.. "wrong".
Petition my Senators and Congressmen to cease the export of food and oil. Nationalize property owned by foreigners.
Get that done and victory is 9 meals away.
China is not our 'biggest threat' in what anyone would imagine as being WW3.
China is not an impulsive, knee-jerk regime. They play the long game and use economic strategy and subterfuge to position themselves in an indefinite point of advantage and necessity. They do not want to directly rule the world, they do not want to wipe out the world. They want to be eternally needed by the rest of the world, and to be in a position where their own power cannot be threatened. Let's say, in an imaginary scenario, that China WAS involved in a nuclear WW3 and came out on top. Words cannot even describe how bad that would be for them. That is the last thing they want. They NEED the rest of the world to exist in their current state.
Russia is similar, but more localised and not as involved in the international stage (thought their international influence is growing at the moment, and will likely continue to do so). That being said, they are what we are in direct conflict with now, and they are the largest nation, with the largest nuclear arsenal. Since a lot of people here are propagandised into believing that they are a 'gas station with nukes', which is untrue but not worth debating, let's say only 20% of their shit works. That still ends the world, just that alone.
China and Russia both have an overt and conscious focus on continuing their own cultural and national existence into the future. They are civilisations that are continuing to build themselves. Western leadership does not show any signs of sincerely retaining any similar mindset. It is a ship-jumping, short-term gains game for them.
Our 'biggest threat' is our own postmodern, shallow, hollow consumerist hellscape that we've made for ourselves. We've collectively allowed things to come to this point. And if WW3 truly does kick off, mark my words, it will be out of our own provocation.
That being said, I'll be immediately relocating to a very large and comparatively worthless region of the country I'm in, and I suggest others do the same.
If WWIII involved nukes, I would run towards the light! Nobody wants to live through the hell of fallout
Party like it's 1999 lol
Practice sailing for the rest of my life. Do my best 90’s Kevin Costner impression and hope I grow gills
Currently working 40 hours a week to pay the machine right now, what are yall up to?
Unlikely for an invasion. China is currently prepping to release higher quality goods over a large volume of goods. Some of these may occasionally spill over to the general Chinese populace but most of these goods will be sent abroad, and we're much more useful to China if they can get us to buy more of their goods.
Well... I guess I would just start an indoor garden to make it through winter and hope I'm not in a blast zone for Icbm's
Obviously I am in the minority here, because I am actually prepared for a GTW.
Do I want it to happen....of course not!
Do I want me & mine to be unprepared if it does....absolutely not!
Yep, stocked fallout shelter in a rural area that is not downwind of expected targets, radiological equipment & knowledge, the works.
Watch it on TV
Use ration coupons to buy cheese.
Protect my family number 1 priority
These stupid motherfuckers still thinking that the greatest threat comes from another country and not from within...
Minding my business in the middle of no where.
If covid teached us something, is we will continue to go to work and pay rent up until second the nuclear bomb falls, then it will be worse because food prices and rent will increase, and they will reduce wages using the bombs as pretext.
Send wife and kid with parents to our bug out location, far from majorities and military installations, stocked with food and supplies. They know the plan. Break out the seeds and get our victory garden planted. I’m fit and still of fighting age but probably old enough to avoid a draft at least initially. But I’d volunteer to fight. I would not see others go in my place knowing I am capable.
I’d probably add solar to my house and a back up battery system. I’d expect more power outages and fuel shortages. Id probably start some sort of business to be a vendor to the military. Other than that I’d be business as usual.
Moving to another country.
Bugging in, only doing what I have to and try to live as “normal” as things can be, or reenlist if it gets bad enough but my knees hurt lol
Try not to die. :)
Living my life to the fullest
I'm 1). growing my own food 2). being a better neighbor than the rich landowners near me so when the angry peasants do angry peasant things it's not towards me.
My goal is to be the guy everyone needs and wants in the little rural town, not the one they want to lynch just outside of town. I connect this problem to WWIII because if you think we're still going to have water, power, and food, you've got another thing coming.
If China goes to war with the USA, where will China get the food it needs to feed its people, and/or the money it needs to buy food from other sources? China is the largest importer of food in the world.
China's economy is so massively dependent on trade with the west, I think outright war between US+allies and China is unlikely.
Lots of discussions here recently re WW3, both conventional and nuclear, just in the last couple weeks, could do a search and check those out.
What do you mean "in the event of" WW-III? The world has been in WW-III since September 11, 2001.
tool up.
I'm swiss and hope it's gonna be like WW1 and 2 where everyone was at war except switzerland :)
If it turns into nuclear war and I somehow survive I am starting my own gang of wasteland marauders. I have already picked out the theme, steampunk. I am riding the wastelands with my gang of raiders dressed in Victorian era steampunk costumes. I called it first so if any of you try to steal it we will have to fight to the death.
The most important thing to remember is not to panic. You could follow this yoga stretch to reduce stress while getting prepared.
Start by standing upright. Move into a runner's lunge. This will help limber up your legs in a calming way. But, we still need to stretch the back out to carry the BOB. So, move directly to the forward bend. Because you're maintaining the lunge, you'll gain the benefits of both the sitting and standing forward bend. Most importantly, this positions your head to kiss your ass goodbye.
Having lived in China for 8 years, and married to a Chinese girl, I have to say, I don’t worry about a direct conflict with China at all. Firstly, they do indeed have a massive military, but it’s partially due to their mandatory service requirements but also like the US- military… it is big business… but China has no real history of expansion beyond its traditional borders. People like to point to Tibet- but China and Tibet have fought territorial wars for 2000 years- with Tibet possessing large areas of China in the past. I’m talking beyond the Sino region.
China’s navy is also beyond inexperienced. China’s never been a naval power- in fact, I challenge anyone to show me an actual naval battle fought by China in the last 2 millennia- let alone win one.
If war were to occur with China over Taiwan- it would all happen in that theater- not here. And as much as Xi pines over the island, China stands to lose its greatest buyer if he were to invade. But he could, if economic reasons “force” his hand. Americans would need to find an alternative for all of its import requirements if that were to happen.
No, if there is a political SHTF it’ll be due to our own government’s incompetence- likely due to financial collapse.
Not happening. Some people really want to live in Red Dawn for some reason, but no nation is mounting a land invasion of North America.
WW3 will be countless small conflicts, civil wars, proxy wars, imperial counterinsurgency operations and seizure of resources, etc. Most of this in the global south in places most Americans haven’t heard of. You could argue WW3 is already happening, and has been since the end of WW2, and is a war over control of resources and political alignments. The conflicts happen in places that try to change their alignment, or won’t sign their resources off to corporations controlled by their regional superpower.
The war to prepare for if you live in the US is information war. Propaganda. Identity theft. Infrastructure failure, supply disruptions, loss of property, denial of services, bankruptcy and unemployment, imprisonment. I would argue this also is already underway, and I hate to say I think most of the threat is from our own side, not that multiple global players aren’t trying to undermine us as well.
In other words, keep prepping for Tuesday, because when the power goes out, it won’t matter whether it was foreign hackers or an ice storm, you’ll need a plan to deal with it.
Find out the next spot to be nuked and sit dead center. You all can deal with the fallout lifestyle. I'm out.
I live in the US. Nothing . We're not getting invaded. If it goes nuke I'll never know they're inbound so nothing to do there either. Over 50 so don't see a draft card coming. Work all the OT I can, buy war bonds, hope we win.
Direct conflict (read: war in the US) with China is just fear mongering (within the next 20 years). China is economically dependent on the United States overconsumption and China still has hundreds of millions of its own people in poverty. US is also economically/politically dependent on the cheap imports.
Proxy war more likely which isn’t too much of a preparation issue
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What does project 2025 want to do? I see conflicting info everywhere.
I mean the head of the Heritage Foundation said today this is the 2nd American Revolution and will remain bloodless "if the left allows it." They basically want to dismantle the administrative state and make a MAGA president king. As much as people bitch about bureaucrats, the only reason we have something even approaching clean water, air, and there's not lead in everything we buy, is because of Federal regulatory agencies.
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