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Frontier airline dropped their bag limit to 40lbs and added these lovely fees
I am learning this now. Before, the added fees made the cheap ticket price equivalent in cost to regular airlines, so I'd sometimes choose Spirit or Frontier if the flight time was more convenient. Its not worth it anymore.
Since I fly out of Denver I’ll use frontier if it’s a short hop (like 2ish hours) and I’m traveling light. Bring a bottle of water on with me and I’m good. Like a go between Denver and SLC a lot, Frontier is perfect for that.
Anything else it’s another airline. If you’re going on a family trip for example by the time you add in all the fees it either averages out or sometimes becomes more expensive.
You could just actually read the conditions of what you signed up for. Don’t use a budget airlines expecting full service. Pretty simple.
Not having sudden high fees at check-in isn't "full service."
The fees aren’t sudden. Airlines let you know what you’ll be paying when you check the website, every airline I’ve flown tells you the maximum worth of suitcases and the dimension limits of suitcases. It’s not as difficult as you’re making it out to be.
Nobody said it was difficult. I got a refund and swapped airlines. Easy.
It was clearly difficult for you to read the terms and conditions. You would’ve saved yourself time and energy had you done that, but instead you complained about getting budget service from a budget airlines as though they somehow tricked you.
I'm going to end this because you're going in circles.
Only fly with Spirit or Frontier, if you’re flying with just the shirt on your back or a very light backpack.
And don’t mind if you’re flight is delayed or canceled
Same to Ryanair for me in EU
I’m about to fly American for the first time. I have always flown delta and did frontier once which I never will again. I’m nervous about American. Are they good?
They’ve been fine for me.
They are a legacy airline. You should be fine.
If you fly regularly, check out the Delta, United, or American credit cards. For around $100, the benefits may include free first bag on all your flights. Sometimes even including several others flying with you. And earlier boarding group, even with a basic economy, which allows you to get an overhead bin space.
Southwest two free checked bags
50 lb. limit, also. I love Southwest for this
This doesn't get talked about enough honestly
Half the time they literally don’t even weigh my bag. I just hand it to the person without setting it on the scale. Also doesn’t matter if you bring golf clubs or a snowboard bag, everything is included as long as it’s 2 or less bags. You can fly southwest with a golf bag/snowboard bag, a full suitcase, a large rolling carryon, and a backpack for the same price or less than most of these other airlines. I truly don’t understand why people fly anything else, outside of the flight being covered by work/points/miles.
Nice. A lot of times I travel for more than just a weekend trip, so I usually load both of my check-ins to the max (1 personal clothing/necessities, the other full of camera equipment/lights).
Their prices are a lot higher from my experience
Yeah but you’re not paying for checked bags 💀
"yeah but free checked bags that are baked into the ticket price! But it's free!"
And free seats if you're morbidly obese
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What the hell are you talking about?
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Bro midway is far older than southwest airlines. Did they do a lot of rebuilding and remodeling sure but every airline does that for every airport. United invested in O’hare. Hell delta just spent big dollars on terminal 5. Southwest did not build midway. Instead of spewing nonsense you look it up.
And you think it stays that way, when competition is starting to add extra fees left and right? lol
It’s stayed that way for quite some time so yea I think it does.
If they're going to pick up all the business when people don't want all the extra fees... yep. If SW is an option for anywhere I go, that's the only airline I use.
It’s like they want to go out of business.
All about that short-term baby. 🤘🏽
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So sounds like you’re dumb and shouldn’t buy tickets based off of seat prices.
Seriously it’s like people act surprised by fees the airline tells you about. Ridiculous.
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I’m sorry you’re incapable of doing things yourself.
Most people don’t check bags
I’d bet it’s because the price to check is so high. Lower the price and you’ll see more people check bags
The price to go from 40lbs to 50lbs is f you money. They don't want those bags.
Because you don’t need your bring that much shit
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My husband and his golf clubs would like to have a word with you.
Woah did you just gender your husband?! How could you do that to they/them
Lmao
You can get a bus ticket for that cost.
Its $69 + 75! So you could get two for that cost tbh.
And leg room.
I’ve come full circle!
First started using Reddit and I saw a post on this subreddit about frontier airlines. Almost exactly one year later, here we are.
Funny coincidence.
Most airlines in the UK do this! To make it worse, they have limits on the bag sizes which is different between airlines!
All airlines should have the same rules in terms of bag sizes, what am I supposed to ditch shit from airport to airport?
That is our situation. These fees also stack, so a 50lbs bag is $69 + $75.
I could buy 2 months of food for that price
Yep. Carry-ons are also an added fee that I can't recall.
I'm holding that one, why the hell am I being charged to hold something, probably paying more than the thing actually costs
Doesn’t matter if you’re holding it, it’s still additional weight on the plane.
Then do they weigh the passengers?
Not in the Us
You could, you might not like it or get sick of certain foods, but you definitely could. It is only $2.36 a day so you'd be skimping for sure. But pasta and ramen can be that cheap for one person
This guy gets it, plus I also buy expired food since it's cheaper, I ain't healthy but I ain't dead either
Robbery!
There are rules which airlines have to follow, including going by the baggage rules of the most significant portion of the ticket - so if you have three legs, two of which are on airlines with lower sizes and weight allowances but both are shorter than the third leg, the bigger allowances of the third leg is the one applied to all legs.
But it has to be on one ticket. If you have separate tickets for each flight then the above doesnt count. A big plus for getting everything on one ticket.
I feel like you're over-complicating this, they want you to spend more so they make you spend more, they could solve any weight problems quite easily they just want more money, business gotta business
Hmm in Germany, if you book return tickets, even if they are all different companies, they give you one bag size and weight.
Warning, though: If you book through one company, and you miss your connection flight, they will help you. If you miss your flight and the companies don't belong to the same company network, for example SkyTeam, you are fucked.
I don't intend intend to travel much in my lifetime, so I'm gud
I fully agree with you here! Constantly checking and doubting if you have the right bag/suitcase
Me being right is really saying something, surely the bastards making these decisions have at least been on a plane, I sure as he'll haven't, money hungry pricks
I think they’ll have a very different experience to you and I. Probably say pretty close to the front I presume.
They also sat my husband and I apart on an almost entirely empty flight to force us to pay for seat selection.
Crazy!
next time, buy the tickets separately, don't buy seats. then during check in online, first person checks in, lets the system pick the seat, then the second person can check in, and buy the seat next to the assigned one. you can usually save on buying 1 seat with this method.
Anything for a quick £ or $ !
The average American would rather pay over twice as much to get from A to B if everything is included, instead of flying A to B for cheaper on a budget airline and individually add in seat selection, bags, drinks. The European market is much friendlier to their discount airlines like Ryan air. It must be that Europeans prefer value and Americans prefer convenience.
Is a 49 lb bag $75 or $69+75?
$69 + $75 :(
I just looked at Frontier Air, down 68 percent in last 5 years, LTM lost 20m USD
So at least you know they aren’t doing this to reap giant profits.
I use to fly Frontier often, and as long as you know what you're getting into, it was perfectly fine. Sure they nickel and dime you, but that's how you're getting the lower price between them and say Delta.
Which you could do if you read the terms. OP didn’t and now is complaining. It’s just not that hard.
Ironically I just got an email from them called “The New Frontier” all about how they’re going to do better and lower fees and be better for all of us. What a joke
What if you have two, 39lb bags?
I assume it's $69 from 1 to 40 pounds but yeah they should specify that
Its Fronteir.
This is exactly why I don't fly these kinds of budget airlines. JetBlue is the only good one, but I don't know how on Earth one can call it a "budget airline" even though they provide you with much more than airlines such as United and American.
Yeah, Southwest and JetBlue are definitely in a different category than the likes of Frontier and Spirit. The terms most people seem to use is "LCC" (low cost carrier) for the former, and "ULCC" (ultra low cost carrier) for the latter. You'd think they'd be similar with those names, but really the LCCs are closer to the legacy airlines like United than they are to ULCCs, IMO. I avoid flying on ULCCs but will gladly consider Southwest.
Yeah for short distances like traveling from my parents to college back and forth, Southwest is awesome cause I don't have to pay any bag fees. The first 2 bags being free makes the airline experience very awesome!
They need to pay for the adorable animal decals somehow. /s
Color me crazy, but the only reason we still have the rules about liquids are so airlines can continue to make money on checked bags. You cannot convince me that my 3 oz bottle is somehow safer than whatever terrorists could come up with.
Thats not why, it’s just governmental ennui. Once a law exists, no matter how stupid, repealing it is super hard because why would anyone take the responsibility and infinite liability for doing so? That would require an organization that is motivated by excellence, and not just existence, and you will not find that in the government outside the military
Honestly, I wear 2-3 outfits a week. I just pack a backpack and wash my clothes now.
If I'm that hard up an outfit is almost cheaper than the luggage cost lol.
If you’re going to have checked bags, this isn’t the airline for you. Thought everyone knew this by now..
Not OP, they’ve put their complaint in several threads. Seems like you could read the conditions of the airline you signed up for but that’s way too taxing for OP.
Use this packing method, and never have to check bags again. I started packing this way a decade ago or so. Absolute game changer. Haven’t used checked bags since then, not once for any trip, flying or road trip or anything else.
This is why I only ever travel with carryon, and specifically carryon that fits under the seat.
I flew Frontier a couple of weeks ago. I’d estimate 50% of the overhead bin space was empty. Just seemed so…odd. But maybe it saves them fuel?
it is a big part of how they are able to claim to be the most fuel efficient airline
That’s hilarious
Frontier is for single flyers that are only taking a backpack with them.
Anything else - book with someone else
You fly frontier if you are flying light and cheap. I seriously don't understand what people expect.
Heh, nice
In Brazil we have a common 23kg (50lb) limit for luggage, up to 32kg (70lb) if you pay extra, anything heavier has to be shipped as cargo. This has more to do with OSHA regulations and not entirely because of airlines.
Yet, dropping 5kg (10lb) is a pain in the butt, specially considering they charge even the 1st piece...
Nice.
Not enough people arguing over overhead bins?? Let's raise prices for checked baggage !!
They're charging people for usage. This stuff all costs them fuel. Everyone wants their tickets as cheap as possible so they're going to find ways to charge the bare minimum.
It would be like 2-topping and 5-topping pizzas costing the same. Then there's a price war so they lower the pizza price and charge for each additional topping.
I have elite status on Frontier because I fly so often. The secret is to pack less. If you need to check a bag, you have too much stuff. Even when we travel to Europe for 2 weeks, we only do carry on. We just figured out that all that shit we were bringing was weighing us down. We haven’t checked a bag in over a decade. We only take what we think we need, then we cut it in half.
One year my family of four got out to my parent’s house for $99 round trip. Not $99 each, $99 total. Why the hell would I pay United $300 each for a seat that might have an extra 1/2” of padding and a larger tray?
That said, add up the options and compare directly to other airlines. If you can get away from the checked bag, Frontier almost always wins.
Correct. People don’t get you can do laundry.
Yep. Laundry or just wear some stuff multiple days.
Frontier and spirit are trash. Only discount airline worth anything is allegiant
Yeah, Frontier can go fuck themselves.
Thanks, now I know to NOT fly this disgrace of an airline
Honest question: do people actually exceed 40lb with a bag? Last year I went on by longest vacation yet and had to buy a new (to me) comically large bag to fit basically almost all the cloths I own for the trip. It weight about 12kg (26lg) and the bag was full to the brim. How can you reach 50lb or even 100lb without metal or liquids?
One bag or gate check it
40lbs is the size of a carry on. United was checking bags for free on our last flight.
Spirit is also 40 lbs
I saved $80 each way by checking prices. My original booking was an airline charging $40 per bag. At the time, a dozen or so years ago, I found an airline with free baggage.
Soooo…it’s cheaper to do two 40 pound bags than one 41 pound bag.
Makes sense. 🥴
That’s not what I see.
Two 40lbs bags is $154
One 41lbs (up to 50lbs) bag upgraded is $75
OH. I read it as an ADDITIONAL $75.
Guess I was expecting too much of a dicking over. 😂
“Unbundling”
What if I check 1 bag and then check 1 bag, does it o ly cos $138.
I always do 1 carry-on/ personal bag. If I need something while I'm traveling, I buy it because it's cheaper than checked luggage. If I like what I bought enough, I mail it home. If I don't care to keep what I got, I return it to the store
A large USPS box (12 x 12 x 6) is $25 to ship across the country. Either send your stuff before you leave, or take nothing and buy when you get there then ship the new stuff home. $69 + $75 is crazy people talk.
I started being my laundry done at my vacation destination. Drop off dirty clothes and come back the next day for the fresh clothes. Cheaper than these stupid fees
Nice? Not nice?
I use Frontier if I get invited to something I don’t want to attend. They’ll cancel the flight for sure.
Next they’ll start weighing passengers and have them pay by the pound.
Ever since Republic bought Frontier they are unflyable to me. It’s just not worth the time and money to fly them.
Literally cheaper to ship your belongings to your destination.
You will probably find the fees were always there but recently the FTC or another party that controls trade regulations required all Airlines to list all fees upfront so customers know what they are spending and it wont hit them by surprise that it cost more than what they said at the end or the price originally given
I didn't read the article all the way but as you would assume airlines do not like this as they said it could confuse customers
The gate/ticket agents also get a cut of every bag that you have to pay for.
I flew frontier on a weekend trip to see a friend and I didn’t pay for a guaranteed seat and was just going to take whatever. They overbooked the flight and kicked me off.
Flying Frontier and getting upset at the nickel and dime shakedown is like flying on Boeing and getting upset that the door plugs blow out. It shouldn’t be a big surprise. Geez.
If you have to check a bag with Frontier you're doing it wrong.
Remember a couple of winters ago flying to Ft Lauderdale on Jet Blue. 50 lb limit. Way back, in a rush to get going to the airport but see on the flight back on Frontier...40 lbs! Ended up rapidly shifting things around and left a few things behind. Just made it, carry on just barely fit in their box (otherwise another $99).
Just use the hotel gym instead of hauling your own weights around.
And yet, passenger weight somehow doesn't matter. 100lbs person still pays the same as 300lbs.
I wonder what they'd say if you asked when the last time their scales were calibrated by a third party was.
I only do American, southwest, delta, United
Frontier and spirit are banned for me, even if it’s super cheap. It’s not worth it! (To me)