I found out while i make 25 an hour my colleagues are all making around 40-45 an hour for the same job. We are contractors with an assignment for a big financial company and i just hit my one year. Im so pissed imagining what my life could have been like the last year making even $10 more an hour. I am going to try to negotiate a raise, obviously it would look suspicious if i asked for a $15-20 raise but would a $10 raise be reasonable? I figure even if its not they could meet me in the middle without being suspicious of the ask
Just found out my colleagues are making almost twice as much
CompensationYa this might be a great place to switch contracting companies.
Yea i they are all mostly the same company. One or two with another company but all making around 40-45 an hour
Don’t ask for $10 more. If you are successful you’ll get perhaps $5 or $8. Ask for $25 and if you are successful you might get $10 or $15.
But have a plan B. Have another offer if possible or at least a new job in line in case they terminate you for the sin of trying to live a dignified life.
Also, be ready for a possibility to get terminated 3 months later when they found your replacement. Saw it happen to a coworker who realized he was being paid peanuts.
This. If you ask you’ll get 5-8 and, as a practical matter, be unable to ask for another raise. So:
Be prepared to explain how you KNOW you’re being under paid (without throwing your co-workers under the bus).
See if you can get another job offer. Even if it’s $35.
Ideally, wait for a critical time when you’ll leave them in a lurch to have the conversation.
Then you can say, “I’ve become aware that your under paying me because I’ve spoken to people in this company and others. So I have an offer to leave for $35 — which is still below average. If you can beat that, I’ll consider staying.”
- Keep a record of accomplishments and contributions over your employment
- Research industry standards of current year
- Calculate the difference and factor it in other calculations: What is the difference between 25 and 40 over the hours you've worked thus far?
- Schedule a Meeting to discuss compensation (it's valid reason to be confident and calm about a topic that's normal)
- Negotiate - express appreciation for opportunity to work with them, share your research on industry standard and colleagues' salaries, state clearly you're seeking a raise to $43/hour, citing the difference you've calculate (non-specific about lost potential at $25). Focus on your value, after making your request silence is golden. Be willing to walk away, means considering alternative opportunities else where.
- If a raise is not possible, consider other benefits like more vacation time, title change, paid transportation, etc. in the short-term.
- Send a summary email as follow-up. Be professional and you're value will be reciprocated or not, be prepared to test the market out there any how, as always.
Eh he'd probably be better off snitching and saying others discussing their rate and how that is inequitable for him to make so much then and then show what work he does that could warrant a reconsideration.
Yeah, I know a guy who tried to impress me with a story about how he fired a guy on the spot because he asked for a raise and couldn't explain why he thought he deserved one other than he'd been there for a year.
I was going to say document everything. Emails, all that jazz. If you suddenly find yourself jobless, you can report them for wrongful termination or retaliation. At will or not, it is illegal if you can prove it through a pattern. Get all the info you can.
How long have the other folks been with the company? What line of work is it?
My first thought was if they had been with the company longer than you have. If you just finished a year, you should raise this concern at your annual review!
This ^ OP needs to be realistic in his comparison - if you have a few years experience, you can’t compare that to 20 years of experience
I doubt you'll be able to negotiate a $10 raise.
I would consider looking for a new job.
This is not your fault.
You learned a lesson.
If you're a contractor, you can negotiate pay, vacation, sick time, and anything that is required to do your job (tools, laptop, smartphone, vehicle).
I have a feeling you do similar work to what I do based on the description and pay.
Definitely see if you can switch contractors soon, it'll probably be a different company/project that you end up working for, but a great chance to really up your earnings, especially with the experience you have now.
What kind of work could contractors do for big financial companies. I'm idly curious.
Tech support, onboarding, etc is what I'm most familiar with as far as opportunities go.
I do cybersecurity. Most of my company consists of contractors in all fields because its cheaper and they dont need to give us the same benefits as actual employees there
Right now staffing providers are desperate to hang on to all the revenue they can. Depending on how their contract is structured, if you were to resign over a refusal to increase pay, they may lose the role to one of the other firms, thereby losing revenue and taking a hit on their turnover metrics. In other words, you are in a prime position to negotiate.
So, make sure your resume is up date, find out who the recruiters or account managers are for the other firms, and then have a straight up discussion with your contracting company. Be clear that you know exactly what the others are being paid for the role and you want them to increase your pay rate to match.
You will either learn very quickly that there IS some legit reason you are paid so far below the others OR they will negotiate. If they refuse to come up far enough, let them know you will be considering your options. Then reach out to the other firms and have a very frank discussion with them.
Unless your firm has a contract with the right specifically to fill your position, reaching out to the other firms will most likely secure them the right to fill your position… with you. Make sure they extend you an offer before you resign from your position.
There are risks. If your firm refuses to negotiate in good faith, and you basically take your job to another firm, you may be marked ‘do not hire’ with your current firm. Depending on their market position, this may not be a good thing for future assignment prospects. If all the firms providing these roles to the client bill on a pay+markup basis and your move results in the client paying more, then the client can block any firm from placing you with them.
However, you are in a great position to play hardball if you have done good work and the client is happy with you. (Source: work for a staffing firm).
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How long have they worked there?
Ok.. I get your feelings, but I have a couple of questions.
What was the rate of salary you presented when you were hired ? If your job is considered an overhead expense, a company always looks to lower these costs wherever they can. Especially if sales haven't hit targets or lower than expected profits. If you presented a low offer, this is what you valued yourself at, and they thought "ok great deal, hired." I took a job I was only about half qualified for on paper, but I knew I could kill it if given the opportunity. When they asked for my salary expectations, I went in 40% lower than what I was making at the time, and the salary was lower than I had made for 15 years. Here's why.. I seen a potential for growth and experience. The right step back can give you 3 steps forward .. So, within a year, I received a 20k raise and a promotion. I made myself ingrained with the company. Yes, im good at what i do, but i am well liked in every department. I know all the guys on the floor. I know their family life, and I can take criticism from the management and get them the numbers they need . I just received another promotion as the lead of my department after 2.5 years. I'm in position now to jump to my managers role when she retires in the next few years, and if can succeed there. I would be in a good spot to take the CEO role once he retires. Have you made yourself an employee that if you left the company would be worse off ? Business isn't personal or fair... Stand out...
How long have your coworkers worked there longer? Do they have more experience? How did you find out their, Salary?
If you're asking for a raise, you should know that they can't say no... they can't afford to lose you. You should have other options just in case you need too leave. All too often, people think they deserve so much more , but in reality, they are doing just enough. They have a lower salary, which add values they ask for more and get skidded.
Shut up grandpa
Oh, nice return .. young fella ! I'm under 40 and making high figures. My son, who's 18, will do close to 100k his first year because he went into field to learn and do something that most aren't capable of .. because of the "it's to hard" and "why should I" common attitude ... he's buying a new Infiniti this month and you'll still be bitching about life being hard. At 22 he'll be able to buy a house, when youll just blame the world why you can't. ... but yes, the successful grandpa will shut up on the /jobs sub so it's easier for you to find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow... how dare I give advice on my success... I've overstepped, please tell us the right way good sir.
That might be why they hired you in the first place. But sorry man, that fucking sucks, I’ve been there, it’s infuriating.
Realistically you don’t have a lot of options. You can make the best case possible for why your pay should be normalized, focusing on performance metrics. If they give you the runaround (which I would expect for them to do.. “we’ll reassess during evaluations in 6 months”) well, start looking for work elsewhere.
Op lacks negotiating skills. They should work on those
It’s not suspicious to ask for $15-$20more. You could say that the market is paying X and you’re only making X.
This is best way to do it IMO
Asking for a raise is always the worst move.
Apply at companies that have essentially the same job for the current position at the salary you should be getting currently. Secure the offer before saying anything.
Return to current boss with the offer for $45 and offer to stay if they can beat it. Make sounds of distress while they think it over for a moment and then ammend statement to Beat or Match the offer.
Puts the pressure on the company to pay you fairly, to retain you, and gives you an out if they aren't willing to deal fairly with you.
Don't offer to stay if they can beat it. Let them make the offer, and when considering their offer, don't forget that this is the company has been undervaluing you for a year and is only offering you more because someone else did.
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Never accept a company counter offer because malicious managers will fire you the moment they find an opportunity to.
Take the company counter offer and go to your new company to match and enjoy the extra pay on top of the bump you already got at your new job.
That’s assuming you have a malicious manager lol I know people that got an offer elsewhere, the company counter offered and ended up staying and still working there years later and have gotten promoted since.
While that is true, if a company is already drastically underpaying you by comparison, then they already show that they do not value you and are more likely than not to be the malicious management type.
I would side with caution here, and assume they are toxic and treat them as such, leaving asap.
Absolutely 100% false.
This is excellent advice, since companies like to think they have power over you and can deny it, thus keeping you under their thumb just for the job.
Removing that power with a REAL negotiating leverage, and not just a bluff, will give you all the power because if they refuse, {poof} you're gone to greener pastures.
Which you should be anyways after learning about that wage discrepancy.
Statistically, people who negotiate raises with an outside offer continue working for that company for 6months once they secure a raise. This is bad advice for anyone who likes their current job. Ask for raise, see if they value you, and only come back again with an outside offer as leverage once you’ve exhausted that option. It will greatly reduce the friction caused by the outside offer since you’ve already given them an opportunity to increase pay. Recruiters are also much more likely to push for you if they know you’ve already asked for a raise before being presented with an offer.
No one making half market likes their job. Not once they find out how badly exploited they are.
Imo this is a pretty shortsighted answer. It depends on what kind of relationship OP has with the employer, if they're on relatively good terms with each other I 'd just ask for a raise instead of immediately pinning them to a wall with an ultimatum.
I feel like that should be a plan B.
Are you on good terms with someone paying you nearly half the market rate for a job?
Even if they were, no company will ever say we need to retain this employee at the same position, with the same responsibilities, for 40% more money. The outside offer creates value through loss aversion, sets appropriate pay, and is a safety net if it goes poorly.
Asking for a raise with no leverage yields probably less than a 10 percent bump with asterisks. Like sure, we can bump your pay next year if you perform well enough.
Maybe. That's the thing right, market value seems to be 40, the employer knows this. So it depends on how expendable OP is in this case.
Are you on good terms with someone paying you nearly half the market rate for a job?
That depends entirely on what you negotiated. A company's not magically gonna pay more than you asked for. They might pay or offer less, but they won't offer more than what you asked. So might just be a shitty negotiation from OP's side. We lack information for that...
Asking for a raise with no leverage yields probably less than a 10 percent bump with asterisks. Like sure, we can bump your pay next year if you perform well enough.
You can mention market value of course, that's fair game. But that's something else than saying "I got this offer somewhere else" because then you're saying "Give me this or I leave". That's obviously what it is, but doing it this way will 100% poison whatever relation might be there in the first place...
2 questions,
Are all of you doing the same job? Have the same level of responsibilities?
Do you have just as much experience/education as the other contractors?
Yes we all have the same exact job duties and title
We do cybersecurity, some have had one IT job prior to this so i understand them getting paid more but i was hired alongside another guy my age same education and experience who started at 40. So i think it was just a failure on my part to negotiate a better rate cause im new to the field and didnt do research. I was also unemployed at the time so needed this job
I think you’re exactly right, it’s just a matter of negotiating your worth. I hope the raise goes in your favor but as others have mentioned, it’s not a bad idea to look elsewhere just incase. Good luck!
I coached a guy for about a year. Last year I was asked by the company if I wanted to change team granted a salary increase of around 20%. I accepted. The workload grew and and a months ago my TL asked me to give him the name of someone who I thought could join our team. Obviously I mentioned the guy's name. I found out that he will earn more than me and that, since it has already worked in the past, I will have to coach him... I'm super stressed, and kind of depressed atm
I used to sit in on interviews for new team members, and the salaries were so much higher than mine. The final straw was when they asked me to train a new hire who was earning £30k base more than me. Plus, as it was a sales job, his overall OTE package was £60k more. I asked for a raise and was told there was no budget for it. So I went and got another job. They offered to match it, and I declined. Went to the other company. Made sure my colleagues knew why without giving specifics of salaries (even though in the UK that's not illegal), and it turned out I wasn't the only one in this situation. Mass exodus ensued of all the most tenured salespeople. We all found better jobs elsewhere..
I wanna do that one day lmao. Tank a business
It wasn't my intention lol - but it was scary how easy it was to do.
No offense, but you didn't do anything. They ran the company poorly.
None taken.
Did I mention they booted all the senior managers 3 months after I left as a result of the mass exodus and offered us all our old jobs back at more than the raise I'd asked for?
Some went back.
Seems like they figured out what the problem was. But I have seen a company burn itself down in a similar way based on how they did their executive compensation. I won’t go into detail, but basically they set up a situation where it was in the execs best interest to provide sub-standard talent to the customers (consulting/contracting). Changing out the execs wouldn’t help in that case. I think you’re smart not to go back. A fish rots from the head down.
Yep, seen that myself before as well.
All the better ayooo
Just because you have the same time doing something doesn't mean you have the same experience. In technical fields there is definitely "20 years of experience vs 1 year of experience 20 times"
Wait so.. you're new to the field, but he isn't.. yet you both have the same experience?
No, maybe i didnt word it well. The guy i was hired with is my age. He had the same experience and level of schooling but started at a higher rate
yeah that’s when I left a company because the boss’s cousin told me how much he was making…now I make a little more, but at least I’m not stuck there anymore
I remember starting my first commission job and I was training under a guy who had been there 20 years. After a few months they made a change and put all of us on the same payout scale. He was ecstatic that he would be getting a raise but all I could think was this dude who’s been here for 20 years is making the same as me who just walked in the door and that it being a RAISE to him means he was entirely underpaid for years. Honestly I would ask for what you want. If they say no they say no but you asked for yours. There’s a chance they could say no to less than what you even want so why bother meeting them in the middle if the results the same. If they can see you there another year, then they need to see you there with a bigger paycheck. Good luck!
It’s not a bad thing to talk about pay to coworkers, especially peers. In fact, it’s a protected right. Be forward with your request to be matched in pay to your peers but start with questions like asking how long someone has been with the company that makes significantly more than you. If they’ve been there only a year more, ask how the pay raises work that they make so much more. If it’s not based on some kind of scale, make a request to be paid fairly.
He was hired alongside another guy. No seniority issue.
That should work in OP’s favor then. But asking the questions first makes the HR person give up information that’ll have them backed into a corner when OP starts requesting to match pay. If you don’t ask first, they could lie and say the others have seniority. So establishing that seniority is not a factor AND that a raise scale is not a factor, they’ll be cornered into answering why they would under pay one employee. I’d also recommend that OP verify the peers’ pay level by asking to see that part of a paystub; also offering to show theirs in return.
Depending on your manager, I'd see if they can go to bat for you. I have a direct report who was making significantly less than the rest of the people in their position due to being acquired as part of a merger. I was able to get them up to parity (+25%ish per hour) at annual reviews and merit increases, when the official line was that increases were capped at 4%.
You’re a good boss. Too many don’t understand the cost of churn, retraining, rehiring and lost productivity for a little bit more money.
The real question is: what did you negotiate when you started? Did you sell yourself short?
I didnt negotiate at all. Im not the brightest in left brain things, was new to the field and unemployed so desperate for a job.
Yeah that is how this happened. You do have to ask most of the time.
So you could switch your thinking then, as you were happy with what you were getting paid before you discovered what your colleagues earn.
I would discourage going the “but we’re doing the same job” way and focus on highlighting the value you are bringing to the company.
Well the loss in income you’re experiencing is the tuition fee. Maybe they wouldn’t have hired you at the same rate for certain reasons but took you at the discounted rate. Find your BATNA and get other market offers. They probably won’t match your salary to others as that represents a 100% increase and messes with HR’s internal policies etc. Their game is to try to pay you as little as possible and your game is to extract as much as possible…
Google "BATNA". The "Beast Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement" is a structural approach to any negotiation. You can determine yours, and you can try to determine theirs. From that, formulate a strategy to get what you want, and accept the consequences if you don't get what you want.
Gotta negotiate your pay.
Find a new job. No one is going to give the lowest paid worker a magical $10 raise from the goodness of their heart
Regardless of circumstances, once you know what the others are making, your mindset will not change. Do not hesitate to request an increase in your pay. You have to standup for what is right and protect your worth.
Same
And now we arent alone in our suffering🤝
Don’t bother asking for raise, now that you know what the real market price of your job entitles just go searching for a different job that will pay you that much doing the same work or similar.
1-3 years you should get a promotion or look for a new job imo
Eat ass. Suck dick. Sell drugs.
If you’re all contractors and you contractually make a certain amount I’m not sure you can ask for more money. I would throw out comments that you will look for other companies as you are being paid under market for role and compared to peers. Be matter of fact about it and not in a complaining or whining tone
Do they have better credentials and/or experience than you?
Ask for more than they make and fall back to slightly more than they make.
Be prepared to leave if your terms aren’t met.
It’s not personal. They simply gave you the salary you negotiated. It’s time to correct that error.
Are you willing to leave, can you get that at another company?
It really doesn’t matter what anyone else makes if you answer no to either of those questions because that’s the bluff you’re going to put forward and they may call. If they call and you fold, you’ve lost all leverage. Business isn’t fair, life isn’t fair.
Is there any opportunity to get hired on as an actual employee? I work in finance, and we have contractors on our team. They get treated less than because they aren't real employees yet. They also get paid like shit compared to everyone else.
Did you consider your colleague could also be lying?
I don't understand why you can't outright say "I know what others are making and what the rate should be, I'm a good worker and I know what I'm worth"
Honestly: job hop. Apply to another company and see if they can get you in the 40-45 range. If they offer that to you, go back to your current employer and tell them “I have an offer at $X per hour from other company. I would love to stay with you if you can match that rate. If you can’t, I understand but unfortunately I will have to accept the offer as it is 2x what you are able to pay”.
Make half the pay, do half the work, go for the raise and when you don't get it just do half the work.
I'd be jumping ship immediately. Companies are fully aware of this shit, and at best is all what they were going to do, anything less than equal to the top paid and I'd be out. No negotiation, no discussion, just out
Sounds like it’s time for you to leave and find a job else where because if you think they will raise your pay up like that you’re high
Other than complain on the internet what do you intend to do about it???
What do you do? I want to make $25/hr with a possibility of 45/hr
Or, it might be that your colleagues have a broader skill set and they are just working below capacity
You’ve stated you hit your one year mark, how long have your colleagues been with the company?
Just tell them the truth. You know what feels wrong but isn’t. Talking about the pays, absolutely talk about it. When shit isn’t right. Speak up. I have been back paid before because payment was wrong rate. It happens.
You probably should look for a new job - you now know the market rate. You should always research the market rate. It's not even the market rate bc this contracting company/firm takes a cut I imagine. I don't know anything about contracting firms or have dealt with it/only direct salaries - but always do market research before applying for a particular job/interview process. I doubt you will get what you want unless you are one of their high performers.
How long have your colleagues worked there
Why would it be suspicious?
"Hey boss i m wondering why my co workers who do the same work as i, get paid almost twice as much"
Why beat around the bush? Just tell them you know others are making more and you'd like to be brought up to that amount
Just apply for a new job. Once you have an offer then ask for a 20 dollar an hour raise to “match” the offer (whether it does or not) if they refuse- leave.
This is why you talk about pay between coworkers. Businesses will try to make it seem like a taboo but fuck them.
You can go ahead and ask. Can’t hurt. But be prepared for them to give you a couple bucks more or just say no. Likely Gotta switch jobs.
We had a position open up at work that everyone was kinda reluctant to fill. It's pretty intense as far as the work goes, and requires a lot of attention and focus. Knowing the most and being capable, I got scooted to it. I expressed my desire to not do it, but offered to hold it down until my boss could find someone who would do it long term.
He hired this person after a month or two. Offered them more money than I was making at the time. I had to train them for the position.
He did bump me up to the same rate as new person. But I never forgot it. It was absolutely infuriating. Felt like a total slap in the face.
Anyway, new person didn't pan out. I'm in this position I didn't want, lol.
Just go find another job. Your current position could be redundant (not necessary but its good to have), which means even if you're going to resign, they won't find other people to replace you.
This has happened to me before. Remember contracting companies will pay you minimum and never give you a cent more unless you make them. So long as you keep working and earning them money they don’t care.
What I did is I literally told them everyone around me was making more and I let my manager know (they don’t know or care what contractors are making) in hopes of pressuring my company. It might not be the best method but it worked for me. My agency bumped me up like $10-$15 more per hour but told me “this is the last raise”.
I happily accepted then began looking for permanent hire positions and kissed that agency goodbye.
Yup. That is why I am working myself out the door. My work just initiated a .10 rate increase per year of service. Next year several staff with less experience and no education will be making more than me and there is no advancement opportunities available. I am out.
Free advice. You need to have concrete reasons you deserve more money. What have you done. Projects. Impact you have made. No one cares about your feelings. I don’t want to hear that you feel you deserve more money. You need to give me a reason to fight for you.
You just hit one year? How long have they been with your company and proven themselves? If they have been there and shown their value for years, I see no problem with a company rewarding employees.
This is the opposite of things everywhere else. It would be great to see a company rewarding loyal employees and new ones having to work up.
They negotiated better than you. This is your fault. Now do something about it.
You can leave and come back at the higher wage, especially if you’ve only been there a year.
Ring that shit up. Get paid bro.
You have to get a job offer elsewhere that would pay you 40-45. Better than asking your current one without another offer because you have no leverage. In the meantime though while you apply you can still ask for a raise it just won’t be up to 40$ probably. You do have leverage in that it’s cheaper to give you a raise than train someone new, but that’s not a big leverage like if you had an offer elsewhere.
Longtime manager here - If someone were to come to me demanding more money because they talked compensation with co-workers, I'd tell them to clean out their desk and leave. This is not how you do things.
Did you consider their experience? How long have they been doing this, with the company?
My dad was an executive who used to say these kids would come in and ask him how to make as much doing the same job. His reply was always "Spend 40 years with the company."
Found out others were makng 30/40k more than i do and frankly i smoke them in experience. They are always coming to me asking for help, advice, etc...mentioned something to the boss "blah blah, we'll get you a raise/promotion, just have to apply to this new position" 2 months later, "issues with HR, we'll get it straight" it never gets straightend out. I've been rage applying to a ton of jobs. Have a 3rd interview this week. Hope to god i get an offer. Point being, if they think so less of you that they dont care enough to pay you in an equitable manner, do you really want to work for them? Find a new job
Do your colleagues work longer for the same contractor than you?
Get your bread.
Ouch. Some people just have it so much better in life right? Only way you’re ever going to get control back over your life is to quit this shithole you work for and go somewhere your contributions are appreciated financially. Or stay where you are and be salty your choice
Happened to me, two managers were hired at much more than I was making -they were terrible, they didn’t last as a result, and I was livid when I found out what they had been getting paid. I flat out asked for a raise- and was granted it. I would have quit if they didn’t match what the lousy managers were making. I could easily get that amount elsewhere. Know your worth. When/ if you ask have a list of reasons why you are worth it.
Depends on what you bring to the table. Worked with an engineer - after a year they let him go - he wasn't producing, just watching and playing Magic the Gathering cards and he got paid more (first job out of college) than the engineer who retired (who was amazing in all facets of the word).
Myself, I asked for a 23% raise recently - walked in with current market data and show my participation data - no questions asked, got it, and my manager said, quote, unquote, "You totally deserve it."
So, just prepare to make your case why you too are worth X dollars - not the other guys - you.
they may be doing the same type of job, but they must have some sort of leverage to get paid that way. it's not like people enjoy paying more money if they can avoid it.
Do they do the same or similar things than you?
I was a contractor for a big financial company as well (vanguard), by some people slipping and one email being sent to me by accident I discovered myself that there were many co workers who were making much more than me doing the same job with maybe one or two different duties. I used to get so mad about it myself, I just didn’t negotiate well when hired I guess.
The art of negotiating is a lost art for some.
Not sure id call it an art. Its a skill that can be taught or learned and some people like myself simply never learned.
And I’m sure you will.
Do half as much work as your colleagues.
If you are worth that salary you should be able to get a new job at that salary.
Are you sure your mates are not messing with you? Apply for 47/hour at a competitor company
Tell them u got an offer from another company (cuz u actually go out there and get one) or show him some appreciation like glassdoor and show him everyone else is getting paid way more and its not fare
Never get what you don’t ask for. Ask for what you want and plan to have some key points ready as to why you are worth that. I’d also start looking for something new if they don’t plan on treating you fairly.
Look for a better job. Then ask for the big raise at your current job.
Choose the better outcome.
Be careful switching companies. They may not be able to rehire you via another company due to stupid policies.
What kind of assignment, what if any experience or credentials are considered? I did contract work in my early 20’s and found that my employer wasn’t able to charge as much for me due to lack of experience and certain certifications. Once I got those certs they charged more and I got paid more.
Set up your plan b first by applying to roles and interviewing, then request the extra pay increase, if they say no, you now know you can take the next offer immediately and quit without notice for the ultimate win over corpo bs
you’re doing same job but maybe with less experience? The contract is 18 or 24 months? Find a new job with an offer in hand (which doesn’t make sense to re-negotiate if somewhere else offered higher)then re-negotiating, but right now might not be easy since you’ve already signed the acceptance contract with paid agreement a year ago, most they’ll give is $2-$5/hr, worth a try
At my job you start out making 70,000 a year and you get 2 raises a year and 1 yearly bonus. You get up to 100,000 after 2.5 years and about 10 years in you are making 200,000 a year. So seniority plays a factor even though my colleagues do the same job as me.
Sold where do i apply
Depends on where you live. It's a union job and it deals in ownership representation. Basically you operate in the interest of the owner on construction projects. You're a glorified babysitter. You write daily reports on the daily activities of the contractor. You need the ability to read construction drawings and interpret contract plans and specifications. Attend meetings with the contractor, engineer, and your superiors.
There's a good deal of driving depending on the projects you're assigned to and you have no routine schedule. Basically you could be working 70hrs a week or 40hrs a week which is guaranteed. Sometimes nights sometimes days and sometimes you need to pull a 24hr shift. You get several holidays off and you get plenty of vacation, sick time, fmla, and retirement after your 6 month probation period.
You would need to live in Massachusetts in order to be in the union and get all the benefits.
If you are easy to replace they can just hire someone at your current pay. They already see you as cheaper and willing to work for less. Give it a try but your odds of getting $45 are probably better if you switch jobs.
There might be more to consider. Do they have more experience? Been with the company longer? Perhaps have a conversation with your supervisor on what metrics need to be met to considered for a higher wage.
Don't act like you know it. Don't ask for a raise until it's your turn to be evaluated. And even then don't say you know how much someone else is making. Because if you do, they'll fire you.. eventually. Just wait.
Dumb question but does this difference get impacted by seniority? Idk how contractors work since it’s not like a corporate job
Just ask for a raise without a specific number. See what's they come back with. If they low ball you just ask for the $10 ph if you get $15-20 shut up and take it ;)
Savings this for later thanks
You're an idiot if you're angry about the situation. You need to understand how the real world works, and understand the other persons perspective before making any judgements. "Know thy enemy". Or just use common sense.
If they had to pay $50 an hour to get 2 workers, needed a 3rd worker but found one willing to work for $25 instead of $50, why the hell would they legit throw away $25 an hour, for nothing? You're completely satisfied with $25 an hour, then everyone is happy and everyone wins. This is a business, not a charity.
They're not underpaying anyone who accepts the job at the rate offered. Basic supply and demand.
This is why there's a male to female pay imbalance (one of a dozen reasons). Men are more aggressive and demanding about pay, women accept the first offer they're given, or decline it instead of negotiating (in gross generalities, don't give me your idiotic 1 off examples, no one cares).
Being angry upon finding this out doesnt make me stupid thats a human response. I am aware of how businesses work and understand the goal is more in less out. Maybe i am an idiot for not negotiating something better but anybody would be mad about this.
Don’t just ask for a raise. Flat out tell them you believe there was an error with your starting pay and that you want to know the pay range for your position. If in fact you’re specifically being underpaid there should be plenty of positions in the market to compare your pay with to support your claim.
Simply asking for more money with no supporting angle is how you get shot down.
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Are you and colleagues employed by same contracting companies ?