![America’s choice [OC]](https://preview.redd.it/hnirz8rx0ead1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=333e2e90161f17454768895db8970a981b4b6067)
This is amazing
For fucking real. People really just want to piss on them both at this point. Biden has done a bunch of great things in office but sometimes he stumbles over some words and he's old so I guess he's just as bad as the guy who actively tried to get his political opponents killed by inciting a riot?
Here is a great article from Politico about some of the things he has done that you might have missed.
But just as an example for people who don't have time, here is the first one:
- Obama made regulations that people earning up to $47,476 annual income would automatically get time and a half overtime pay.
- Trump lowered it to $35,568
- Biden raised it back up, and further, to $55,000
Don’t you want it lower so more people who make less earn time and a half overtime? I’m sure I’m misunderstanding it though
Slight misquote. It’s people earning up too that amount, not people earning more then
Yep that was it, fixed, thanks!
Ohhh ok thank you
Bad quote. It's under, not over.
Fixed
wait really? is that why they won't let me do overtime?
Didn't you guys once expelled a pre-candidate because he misspelled potato?
No, we made fun of a vice president for misspelling potato.
We did ditch one for yelling like a weenie and that other one who said, "Please clap." Good times good times
But we can't get the facts in the way of the lizard brain, look he is stammering! (Even though Trump has been throwing word salads for decades).
The "left" is always obsessed with purity and bs, they appeal to community but when the real deal if in front of them is all about "I cannot soil my progressive card by voting by the non-fascist…"
Gandalf 2024
Bindalf 2024
Say no to Sarutrump
I get the argument. There's not a question to me who I'm going to vote for. But we do have to stop and look at this situation and wonder how the fuck we got here and why these are our only practical choices.
Sure, but I’ll wait for post-vote clarity to have this serious discussion. Until then my hat is with Granddaddy Joe
You know what you should look at? At Biden's work not some fuckin debate
Empires collapse all the time.
Damn. Kinda true tho, yeah.
Hope you're getting the sarcasm
I could be wrong, but I don't think that's the message of this image. One side is straight up evil, and the other is lead by a man who can't strike back against it when it matters the most, because a cold fucked him up so bad that the entire Democratic party is now in full blown panic mode. It's not evil 1 vs evil 2, it's evil vs weakness. That is definitely not just on Biden(like why isn't every Dem screaming in unison about the Trump/Epstein unveilings right now?), but he sure is the fitting poster boy for it.
I named my link sarcastically: the choice, if you're not a fascist or an idiot, is clear; if you let some public lapse to choose the obvious Evil side or let it win by inaction that's not the dem guy fault, is on the voter stupidity, the choice is very very easy or should be
that's not the dem guy fault, is on the voter stupidity
Millions of American(in this case) voters are morons, but that's not a reality that can simply be ignored. If Biden loses people will have made the wrong choice, but the Dems will still be at fault because we will all know why he did. It doesn't matter if the mental decline is a valid reason or not(when facing Trump it's obviously not), the point is that you just can't allow it to be a factor in the first place. If only he would have limited himself to just one term, but now here we are...
But all the mental decline shit is speculation..
Call it what you want, do you think the Dems are panicking for nothing? That the debate performance was a nothing burger?
75% of dem voters want Biden to step down. That is basically political doom.
If Biden doesn’t step down, he will lose. And we can blame whatever we want after but Trump will be president
Comparing Joe Biden to Gandalf is mother fucking blasphemy.
Where's the comic?
Considering OP has been dead for 13 years and risen from its grave to post this slop it might be a tad too much of a bot to answer.
the internet has died, millions must consume slop
Yeah someone probably bought their account or something
Old political comics were always just one image so this still counts as a comic
One is old, the other one is old + the literal description of the Bible's anti-christ. Not a difficult choice, you would think. And yes, Trump is the anti-christ if you're still wondering.
For those still wondering who the antichrist is, you are the problem
Trump literally checks a lot of Antichrist boxes.
1) Charismatic and Influential 2) Promotes lawlessness 3) Seeks global dominion 4) His followers wear his mark on their foreheads. 5) Claims divinity and demands worship 6) Arguably works against Jesus and his teachings 7) Receives power from Satan
Trying to keep it brief, but I’m just sayin’
Edit: thanks to u/PKMNTrainerMark for pointing #4 out
His followers wear his mark on their foreheads.
Added to the list
Whoa. I got a notification for you editing my username into your existing comment. Neat.
7 is wrong. Trump doesn't gain power from Satan. He gains power from racists, sexists, and homophobics. There is not a big distinction, but there is one. Both sides are horrible, but Trump is worse. Will probably vote for the senile old man with an 8 pm bedtime.
7 is admittedly a joke. A jape, if you will? You know— a mere diversion or triviality. Antics, my User, antics! I was Yuking It Up. Attempting a slip of parody, wink wink, nudge nudge. If you catch my meaning? You do, don’t you? Surely? Such plain buffoonery doesn’t elude your extensive wit, does it? What one might call… humor?
Yeah I’m gonna need an explanation for the whole anti Christ thing.
The mission of the beast is as follows: Worship Satan, Blaspheme God, Martyr the saints, Dominate the world, Deceive sinners
Another version: And I shall make you pass under the rod, and shall bring you into the bond of the covenant, and purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me. From the land where they sojourn I bring them out, but they shall not come into this land
As to the coming of our Messiah and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, brothers, not to become easily unsettled in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as if the day of Him has come.
Let no one deceive you in any way, because the falling away is to come first, and the man of lawlessness is to be revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called Elohim, or that which is worshipped.
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power and signs and wonders of falsehood, and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those perishing, because they did not receive THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, in order for them to be saved.
And for this reason Elohim sends them a working of delusion, for them to believe the falsehood, in order that all should be judged who did not believe THE TRUTH, but have DELIGHTED IN THE UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
Distress and anguish have found me; Your commands are my delight. The righteousness of Your witnesses is forever; Make me understand, that I might live.
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with Elohim. For it has been written,
“He catches the wise in their craftiness,”
Mind elabarating on the whole discription of the antichrist thing?
Honestly im just curious at this point
So the anti Christ is supposed to be seen as perfect, and can do no wrong to a large portion of the population. A false idol kinda thing. (AKA Trump Supporters).
In a time of chaos he is supposed to be seen as a solution to everyone's problems. He's supposed to bring about world peace, security and bring everyone riches but of course these are all false promises..
He's supposed to lead the spiritually weak astray which you can see often now in many churches treating Trump like he's some godly or chosen figure. Trump himself clearly isn't very religious, can't even quote the bible when asked and also has a scam artist as his spiritual adviser.
The anti Christ is supposed to be charismatic which I think many who don't even like Trump could see as true..
He's also supposed to take the lords name in vain.. Trump actually said god damn so much evangelicals had to beg him to stop during his first couple years of presidency.
I'm sure more could be seen as parallels. I however am atheist and don't believe in the antichrist but if I was still a Christian I would see this as very concerning based on how much he's influenced evangelicals.
I really feel like people are giving in to the propaganda that Biden’s unfit for office way too easily
Edit: Found a way to summon the Russian troll brigade. 20+ comments, all when any American would be asleep
Especially since they treat trump as someone in his 60s.
Trump is barely younger than Biden! Neither is really fit for presidency, but at least Biden doesn't want to install a dictatorship
they act like the age gab between the two isnt 3 years
And that Trump isn't a delusional, destructive narcissist
And hasn’t been since the moment he stuck his nose into politics.
Who is literally going to replace the whole administration with yes men through title F and project 2025. Just wait till he insurrects a third term.
Who also was just caught on hotmic about raping a 13 year old
closer to 2, and that's barely an age gap.
Yeah. I'd rather Biden any day than Trump.
I think that’s the case for everyone with a brain. I still don’t like the choices though.
For all they like to screech that Biden is dement or has Alzheimer. Trump ticks half of Alzheimer boxes as well.
(Lack of bladder control (he wears nappies and reeks), trouble with dates and forgetting information (claimed civil war had air planes), shortened attention span (his staff reported they had to include his own name in briefings at strategic points to ensure he'd pay attention), impulsive behaviour, etc etc)
Trump will be as old as Biden by the end of the term.
Fucking thank-you I’m so exhausted by the toxic media doom loop going on
I think he is to old for office honestly. His mind is OK I'm sure. I just think we need a cap on age. These two fuckers are way to old.
You’re not wrong but I’ll take old grandpa who won’t work to hurt others over literally insane grandpa any day of the week.
It’s not about what loyal democrats will take it’s about what we can get a majority of undecided voters in specific swing states to vote for.
Obviously people doing amateur campaigning for the dem candidate on social media will vote for him despite his flaws, that’s not the group of people whose votes your trying to sway.
And you think the constant focus on biden’s age, vs glossing over trump’s crimes and age isn’t an issue? It’s like people focus on Biden forgetting a few words and stumbling, but forget trump does the same a shit you too (remember confusing ramparts for airports when he was president? Covfefe? He makes mistakes and jumbles words all the fucking time, but only Biden gets headlines).
It’s a lot of both-sides-ism, while also glossing over and forgetting all of trump’s similar and worse defects.
they elected him in 2020.
Sure. Still would choose just an old fucker over a fascist old fucker.
I think he is to old for office honestly.
WHO THE FUCK CARES? Your country is not about to shoot itself in the foot, it's about to blow it's own fucking brains out and you're worried about the fucking appearance of the guy who is trying to save you? Jesus fucking christ.
Seriously, is it really that crazy to not want a president 4 times your age?
I'm genuinely terrified of the fact that Biden got a fever one day and everyone suddenly forgot the Republicans are still proudly displaying a website where you can read all about how they will kill American democracy if they win.
While conveniently forgetting every time trump mispeaks and stumbles on words. Remember covfefe? Or “storm the airports”? Or any of the other millions of mistakes and confusions
Four seasons
They're spreading the propaganda willingly
I am so done with the whole "both sides are bad" bullshit making IT seem like a tough decision.
One bad, the other is a subhuman POS cultleader that should rot in prison forever.
It's not a difficult choice to make
He’s very human. That’s the problem. He can talk and he can lie and he looks like he knows what he’s doing despite having the political literacy of a particularly stupid St. Barnard.
I wish they put as much effort into remembering that the nut jobs WILL vote so even if you hate both or think it doesn't matter fucking VOTE. It sucks for sure but it will suck more if apathy wins over reason
Like, the worst that could happen to old Biden is him dying and Harris taking over. The worst that can happen under Trump is becoming a Russian satelite state.
People also forget that he has always had a speech impediment.
Propaganda? I watched the debate live. It’s not propaganda.
Yes, it is propaganda because they are trying to convert a minor issue into the focus of the debate while more serious things are purposely buried.
That is what propaganda is for. Manipulating opinions.
People putting far too much stock in that debate is a large part of the problem. Biden isn't good at speaking, but that doesn't mean he's completely unfit for office.
Remember - the President is not a dictator. They don't single-handedly run the entire country. A vote for Biden isn't just a vote for Joe Biden himself, it's a vote for the administration that comes with him, and that administration has done a lot of good. Biden has demonstrated that he can put the right people in the right places to get stuff done, which is all the President really needs to do.
I’m fully aware of who I’m voting for - his cabinet. That doesn’t change the fact that he should not be running
Except he is! I'm no Trump supporter either. Both are too old to be running for office. It's just clear to me that Biden REALLY has no business running for office. This isn't propaganda either, but a clear indication of his health over these past 4 years.
This is especially true since the president is more of a manger and moral center for the administration. There aren't many high-pressure scenarios a president faces without literal armies of backups, advisors and secretaries. They do exist, and it does suck that it'd have to be Biden. But we're tricked into thinking the President handles everything, and really the President delegates everything -- or almost everything. Those that don't or won't delegate get very little done.
Who the president is doesn't matter as much as who the president wants to hire to his cabinet.
I'm tired of the Biden apologist. It's bullshit. Stop gaslighting us, we saw how shitty his brain is. They can't hide it anymore. I don't want trump, that's why Biden should be replaced with a strong candidate
Biden did that himself all on his own, couldnt even form complete sentences.
Did you watch the debate? I’m still voting for him, because really the debate is between a democratic administration and a fascist administration, but Biden isn’t all there anymore.
When I see an 80 year old, in any position, my immediate thought is they should retire. People should not be working at that age.
I'm with you there. Biden has been a decent enough president, but his cognition is clearly fading. Look at him 10 years ago and you see a vastly different man. Dude needs to get voted in, then retire so he can be taken care of properly, and the US gets a president without a failing brain. The US should not be entertaining the idea of a president having senior moments regularly. He is responsible for the lives and well-being of the American people and the government. He can't be trusted with that anymore.
It’s not propaganda if everyone saw him meander on stage and get bullied by Trump.
To me Biden’s the clear pick but we need to win over unaffiliated voters if we want a country to live in. The Supreme Court has already laid out the next coup and Joe’s acting like it’s business as usual
There are very few people who could mentally withstand a “debate” with Trump where they’re expected to be the bigger man
Why be the bigger man? Call Trump a rapist and a fraud and a thug because that’s who he is. If you try to debate facts vs Trump you’ve already lost.
The time to be a bigger man is over, this is the future of our democracy in the line.
Didn’t he? My recollection isn’t perfect but I remember Biden saying trump was a criminal, had sex with a pornstar (morals of an alley cat), and something about trump thinking he’s better than the military.
He called him a sucker and a loser on stage to his face and Trump got visibly upset for a long time.
Trump also audibly pooped himself on stage, but let's not even talk about that either.
Please tell me there's some video of him shitting himself
It's about am hour and 16 mins in. You can hear it.
Because politics is fucked and that’s the easiest way to hand Trump ammunition
Did you watch the debate? Biden came out decrepit before Trump even opened his mouth
He’s obviously unfit to be president, but the only other choice is a facist sock puppet. So people are going to vote for him and the party that has been known for smoke filled rooms and back door deals are going to prop up Biden instead of letting their constituents elect a real candidate.
Hey, at least someone gets it. It’s only a “close race “ because Democrats are too arrogant to run a real opposition campaign.
And what, exactly, do you see happening if all you pearl-clutchers get your way? Do you think replacing Biden is going to be easy and smooth? Apparently you’re incapable of grasping the reality: an absolute chaotic Mongolian cluster-fuck will ensue, and the media will focus on said chaos. Trump’s crimes are forgotten and Dem in-fighting will be the only story. But yeah, sure, all that will somehow win over “un-affiliated voters.”
To say that he isn't is just desingenious
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Tbh, no. The two-party system is fucked, and when it comes to presidential candidates one of them is almost always the president that’s currently in office IF they can serve another term (because they can serve two terms in their lifetime).
God, I’m tired of all these shitty, tepid, shallow both-sides-ist takes. It’s not even a comic! And stuff like this perpetuates ideas that are both factually incorrect and potentially very harmful to the longevity of American democracy.
You miss the point. Both options are bad, yes, but one is clearly much worse. Making sure the worse option doesn't get in is still critical.
But if you're comparing them realistically it doesn't look like this comic. Sure they're both old and obviously losing it a bit but at the same time you're comparing an apple with a couple of bruises to a puddle of literal acid after a plague has dissolved all the fruit in sight.
I think you're missing the point of the comic. It's not both-sides. It shows Biden as dead, and Trump as a world-destroying monster. It's saying Trump is worse.
I much rather prefer the decrepit old man over the actual demon who wants to destroy the country. Yeah Biden sucks but Next to Trump, Biden is a goddam saint
I am watching Republicans scream at the top of their lungs they are mounting a revolution that will be as bloody as the Left wants it to be, I am watching republicans make Trump into a King, I am watching stuff that has gone past satire to genuinely terrifying.
Vote for the corpse. If he dies in office we get the first female president.
This, so much. What's the most likely worst case scenario with each candidate? With Trump I really do believe it's that he suspends all elections, restates his insistence he deserves a 3rd term, his handlers install a cronyist theocracy and Trump remains president til his death, whereupon we have to completely rebuild our faith in democratic elections.
Biden, it's that he dies in office. Or his cabinet needs to cover for him. Both of these things have happened before and we've been just fine. Harding, Roosevelt and Kennedy died in office and that's just the ones from the last ~100 years. Wilson had several strokes. Reagan had dementia. Eisenhower had a heart attack, Crohns, and a stroke... It's not my first choice to have such a frail president, but the system is prepared for it. We'll be okay.
Trump's already done way too much damage. His second term would be far worse.
I’d rather have a zombie with a good administration behind him than a dictator and his friends actively declaring war
goes to r/comics expecting silly little drawings
looks inside
The choice is easy. Old yet benign guy who at worst might be ineffective, versus a slightly less old malignant tumor of a human being whose only interest is destroying American democracy to eke out a little more power and money for himself before he croaks.
It's not two shit sandwiches. One of the sandwiches has a bit of stale bread but is mostly edible, while the other is laced with cyanide.
To any Americans reading this, do not listen to anyone who is trying to make some sort of equivalency about this. Not posts like these, not the mainstream news, nobody. Biden is old, but Trump would bring about the end of democracy if reelected. Do not let anyone tell you they are equally unfit for office, it is just a smokescreen meant to help Trump.
I'm not American .
Lmao, got into this sub to see actual comic material and all i see is political BS.
Wait until you see the rest of Reddit.
I don't know, of all the subs i'm in, this seems to be the only one who can't get over politics.
I wonder if it is because it drives engagement no matter why.
My horror comics were banned here, so I stopped translating it. So yeah, this is probably what they want.
What? why?
Dunno.
I tried to talk to mods, but they kinda ghosted me.
Here is an example of my comics:
They look great!
Thx :3
From an obvious Russian bot account. Look at their history. First post in 11 years.
You're right tho.
Stop with this both sides BS. The Republicans are screaming from the rooftops about stripping people of their rights. Project 2025 will be implemented if they get control of the presidency. The Dems aren't perfect, but DAMN IT they're infinitely much better than the other choice. You don't have to worry about democracy ending in favor of the nation turning into an authoritarian state with them. The choice should be easy.
It's not both sides, one is clearly worse
Great propaganda 👍
Dude literally where are the other candidates. Did everyone under 70 just give up or something??
I don't know why people look at this as a both-siding comic. I just see it as the opinion that (from my knowledge, since I'm not even American) these aren't the best possible candidates. Maybe not in a "vote the least worse" way, since according to most I've, Biden's been doing good stuff, but he clearly seems really old and in a bad state of mind, god knows if he could even die in office. If I voted though I'd still vote him over the orange reactionary dicktator. What's more annoying is seeing the muh ruzzian bot bullshit and western progressist superiority complex.
Reminder than the media wants Trump to win because Trump will bring chaos, chaos will bring headlines/viewership, and the news anchors and people at the top are rich enough to avoid the fallout of everything Trump will bring...
YOU. ARE. NOT
Its like an old man vs a an old man who is a also a Captain America supervillain. Is it really "equal?"
This isn’t even well formatted.
Yes, but hear me out on this: you vote for Trump and it was your last free election. You vote for Biden and maybe in future you may choose something worthwhile.
at least the zombie isnt an authoritarian dictator
bOtH sIdEs
An old guy with a stutter vs. a minion of the anti-Christ who will devour your children.
Well, obviously, the old guy has to drop out. /s
I don’t care about Biden winning, I just need Trump to lose.
It would be so cool if democrats fought for an actual good candidate that isnt a walking corpse as hard as they fight the republicans
maybe their country wouldnt be going to shit, lmao
I'll take sleepy grandpa over the con man that wants to end democracy and cause absolute chaos in the world.
project 2025 is no joke.
when the dude said that America's second revolution will be bloodless as they usher in "biblical law" as long as the left doesn't fight back should be all of the information anybody needs to know about it.
like I get it Biden is old as shit.
But he's surrounded by responsible people even if the worst does happen not to mention that his politics are 100% better and he doesn't believe in putting fundamentalist religious whack jobs on the supreme Court
Donald Trump hasn't even endorsed Project 2025
Hear me out.
no
demon who wants all power in the world (age:78)
VS
Very old man who likes ice cream (age:81)
You could always vote independent and stop whining
RFK Jr. 2024
Stop telling that both sides are shit, you are going to have Trump or civil war. Ignorance will lead to totalitarianism. East spending tons of cash on propaganda right now, you are going to have labor camps. Sides are different, votes are matter
More like:
Amazing Screw-on Head
This is literally just the pilot episode for The Amazing Screw-On Head
At this point your voting for the vice instead of the president
OP's account is sketchy
Prior to this comic, they had not interacted with there reddit account at all in over a decade
I voting for old man and their highly competent administration staff
America's actual choice is between a guy who seems a little bit old and the actual end of democracy and humanism. Maybe it's not great to conflate this issue right now.
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If that's true (it isn't, but for the sake of argument) then it's a good thing we have vice presidents. Still no reason to throw away democracy.
Y'all allowed the overton window to shift so far to the right your only choices are neoliberalism or fascism.
Only solidarity will free the people.
Organize! Kick the fascists out! Kick the capitalists out! Power to the people!
More people need to be mad at our electoral system. It only rewards politicians who are too established, pre selected by the party committee, or corrupt billionaires. We need to break it down and start over. And no, you can't fix it by voting for the lesser of two evils.
This shit, is not helpful.
Bot account.
First post in thirteen years. Definitely not a bot.
Is this one of the Russian bots that people keep talking about. Account has been dead for thirteen years and now its posting propaganda
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