CBS just interviewed Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand about UFOs and asked directly if she thinks they are aliens - "I definitely don't know, and I think it's important to have full awareness of what's in our skies. We haven't been looking. And we need to look, and we need to be aware."
NewsShe knows way more than what shes saying she does but im still on the fence about her, friend or Foe...
They should have asked her if she believes there is an ongoing government cover-up regarding UAPs in addition to that other question.
Problem is none of these questions are surprise questions, there probably sent over to her aids and pre approved, journalism seems dead compared to 50-60s
No argument here, the popular plot type from many 1970s and 80s TV shows/movies where the main character is a relentless journalist who will stop at nothing to break the story was already dead and gone but we didn't recognize it back then, w/ the possible exception of Woodward & Bernstein (but I'm not an expert on that Watergate stuff).
Even Woodward and Bernstein didn’t take that story as far as it could go.
If I'm not mistaken, Woodward was CIA...so I'm sure they were given a line in the sand.
Journalism IS dead. Most of the mainstream media are just mouthpieces for the DNC.
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She loves the Aaro. All you need to know. She's a liar
She wouldn't be saying what she said right here if she was just ok with having AARO be a clearing house to nip all of this in the bud. She would be downplaying things as mostly drones etc while here she has left a door wide open for "Alien" & "up in the air & in the sea".
This is quite significant for her to say.
Nuance? In this sub? You're lost lol.
How is taking Gillibrand at her word nuance?
She would be downplaying things as mostly drones etc
Uhhh, but that's what she mostly focused on? She said she was concerned about drones at military sites, spy craft, and national security. She kept talking about national security in the same way that the DOD has been talking about it, and it's only the interviewer who kept trying to bring it back to aliens. Gillibrand kept moving the subject away to identifying craft for national security purposes. She even used the same line from the DOD that "we haven't been looking" when we all know that's likely not true.
Did we watch the same video?
Reminder that 99% of the US population only heard all of these things as being "weird things above military bases and such" and might have had a few people laugh about it being aliens making a gender reveal party in our space ...
Here she is refocusing the discussion :
- These things are repossibilityl and we don't have a confirmation what they are
- Russia and China might be at play so we need to do something rather then just ignore them
- It's is the air but also under water
- Majority are probably drones but Aliens being a possiblity isn't to be ignored or laughed off.
She was asked about is it aliens at the end and didn't laugh and said Idk. That's progress to me.
People hate her because she had faith that aaro would do what they were ordered by Congress, but if anything I think that just shows how naive she was to the depths of the topic. Maybe that experience lit more of a fire under her.
She's just parroting what Burchett and some other Congressional reps have been saying for a year now, so I don't have strong feelings about her answer.
Burchett seems like he is done with all this.
Honestly wouldn't say he's done with it, but he's a low effort guy and doesn't seem to type to put real effort to get things rolling thus all he has left is just posturing.
Yep. AARO is anti-disclosure. She’s full of hot air.
This is all I needed to hear.
Why does AARO get so much hate here? I feel like this sub would never accept anything the government offers about aliens regardless of what it is
Do you know anything about Sean Kirkpatrick or the reports they released?? Do some actual research
Yea, AARO basically said there’s no evidence than any of the UFO sightings are aliens and it says the US government has never had access to alien technology.
Considering Occam’s razor that seems the most likely result. Not sure why so many people here are surprised or upset by it.
Yea, AARO basically said there’s no evidence than any of the UFO sightings are aliens and it says the US government has never had access to alien technology.
Considering Occam’s razor that seems the most likely result. Not sure why so many people here are surprised or upset by it.
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You are absolutely correct, she is clearly a friend. The entire New York Delegation is behind this Disclosure, which includes the Majority Leader of the United States Senate.
Am I the only one that feels that this looks like it is becoming part of a "slow-drip disclosure". The fact that this is on CBS seems significant to me. Having a politician come out on what I'm assuming is a day-time program on a major network is kind of wild. Why did she do this interview? Doesn't seem necessary. I don't hate the strategy of that they are investigating for "national defense purposes"....but are there aliens? "Oh I don't know." Just talking about it without outright denial is a step in the right direction. Thoughts?
Repeatedly using "drones" in regard to the military incursions implies it's all quadcopters. Perception management. The next logical thought is ofc "how is the US military powerless against swarms of quadcopters?". But most won't think that far, and a journalist wouldn't dare ask.
They never want to go full in on the alien option when on national media. Drones, drones, drones and balloons. The stigma is still there even for politicians.
Drones at nuclear sites? lol
I love the assumption that it's a stigma and not a lack of evidence that supports the alien conclusion. It could never be rational people need proof before believing outlandish claims, it's always a stigma and a vast ever growing conspiracy.
I’m an advocate of irrefutable evidence. Fravor, Graves, et al described their sightings as assuredly not drones or balloons.
If her efforts are to investigate and disclose the truth, why would she allude to the opinion they are all drones or balloons, when the pilots reporting to her and congress, say these specific ones are certainly not.
It’s easy to see in her body language and responses, she’s not comfortable posing the idea they might be ETs. There is no proof they are drones or ballon’s either. Why mention one and not the other. Uncomfortable., stigma…pick your own words.
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There is no counterargument in this diatribe.
You’re not worthy of my time or thought. Try someone else who cares.
Have a good one big guy. Sorry I couldn't give you the answers you were looking for.
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Isn't she the one that continuously pushes for additional hearings?
She also endorsed Kirkpatrick, who basically said nothing to see here, it's seems like yea she wants to get to the bottom of this but doesn't, her setting up arro and everything has led to nothing but more lies and denial. We have pilots say they have scene a cube within a sphere, pls show me any patient or anything that resembles that.
That still doesn't impugn her. Of course, when you put someone in the top position of a group that is supposed to investigate these things, you're going to endorse them. Kirkpatrick saying and doing what he did has no bearing on her.
I'm leaning on she was put in this position to just sweep it under the rug or just gas light the drone issue for more funding, I get the wholesome sweet old lady thing but I'm saying bs, she has way more knowledge than any of us do and she's purposely leading us to no where.
Wholesome sweet old lady thing? She has asked some of the most direct questions during the hearings, along with making her expectations known. She wants actual answers. Anything but a sweet old lady thing.
Eh she's a lost cause. Notice how she's sticking to the "adversary" narrative, even after it's been said that UAPs are not adversaries.
In addition, she refuses to use the words "alien" or "nhi" as possibilities and that she "definitely doesn't know if they are nhi/aliens", instead opts only to use "something we've never seen" and insists on playing dumb.
She's a rookie when it comes to her public perception game. She can easily be read like a book and she's not helping out.
Surprised she wasn't pressed on questions related to Schumer and his legislation, her senate colleague from the same state as her who has been much more direct and proactive regarding the issue.
She is 100% CIA
Foe I’d say
Redditor for 21 hours.
Friend. She could have used that huge platform to just Kirkpatrick the whole topic but chose to keep it very open.
She comes from a political family. But she has also fought the DOD on sexual assault to make the military safer for women.
That's fine and all but that has nothing to do with aliens in our air space, or aliens abducting people, or the government hiding it.
And if it was china, Russia, or Iran I'm sure the US would love to spin that in the media, just like the Chinese spy balloon.
I would say skeptical friend. She knows there’s something the DoD is hiding but she’s not willing to go down the rabbit hole like others with the woo
She is no friend.she cannot even find the time to read the last AARO report.
Someone probably told her it referenced a wiki fandom site and she was probably like, "Not worth my time."
All the more reason that she should have read it and demanded answers. AARO is budgeted via her committee. If they are incompetent then they should be shut down
Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. Catch a liar by the toe, if she loves Aaro let her go...Eeny meeny miny...foe.
Gillibrand is two faced
I never know which Gillibrand we're gonna get in these interviews, but it's nice to see the one who seems genuinely interested in the subject this time.
Also, I couldn't help but thinking about this whenever the interviewer was speaking.
Source:
It's also worth noting what Sen Gillibrand says in the beginning, that there are way more "unexplained situations" now than previously reported.
This is indeed quite big statement from her and on a TV show thus it's a prepared comment. I'm pretty much on the fence on this whole story but this is quite something she's just admitted on TV
800 or more.
Gillibrand is an astonishingly good liar. She claims, she "definitely doesn't know" whether any of these are "alien".
As most politicians are. I'd think it's a prerequisite attribute to advance in that line of work.
I've always assumed it was a required skill to even get one's foot in the door...
Well she's a politician, you have to know how to play the game in politics, and being a "truth teller" isn't how you get things done when power plays & influence games are what moves the needle.
She's actually a bad liar. Not sure how anyone could believe her.
I disagree with her statement.
The GOVT and general public HAVE been looking for years, decades, and seeing things!
We HAVE NOT seen the media consistently reporting on them. And the GOVT keeps denying interest despite repeatedly being discovered investigating the situation.
Some people in the GOVT either absolutely know what’s going on or are completely clueless, but they’ve been investigating enough to know something is going on.
It’s so blatantly belittling to put statements out like hers when she knows full well that we have dozens of whistleblowers like Grusch that have come out with HARD data about NHI bodies being recovered. That gap is fucking huge, and she’s still stuck on “drones” and adversarial technology. It’s totally disingenuous and should be mocked and ridiculed.
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But she is endorsing Kirkpatrick/DOD/AARO's narrative, right? She said in the video that we haven't been looking into this, but Grusch has testified that this is not true. And based on other information that's out there, I think we can all basically conclude it's not true.
Which information says one narrative is true over the other? Because Grusch said it? Where's he at these days? Seemingly avoiding any public push back. 3 months over due on that oped, too.
Gillibrand confirms there's mystery in the sly and this sub goes, "Reeeeeeeeeeeee! We know the truth!"
But ... seriously? Is there verifiable truth or just stories and anecdotes with blurry photos?
Get you head out of you're hard believer micro cosm arse, Disclosure will not get done by ripping the band aid off in a big movie reveal. For a politician of her caliber to say what she is saying this is quite big of an admission.
She has just said in a television show (rather then a quick question in the ghall of congress) that there are things "up in the air & in the sea" that "we just don't know" while also not dismissing the "Alien" part from the host thus leaving the door wide open.
History book wise these things are moving quite quickly.
I agree with you, "things are moving quite quickly." And my Senator just encapsulated what is happening on CBS New York, that is amazing! When Congress returns from their Summer Recess and on through October things are going to ramp up even more.
TF they get summer vacation?
Congressional Summer Recess is about 5 weeks from early August thru the week of Labor Day, which I always appreciated...not having to be in DC in August (way too muggy).
have come out with HARD data about NHI bodies being recovered
Bullshit. What "hard data" are you referring to?
What he's saying is Grusch has given the keys to the kingdom. Program names, where they are, who heads them. But instead of following direct leads we go back to "let's do some studies". And we all know what happens there...oh we didn't find anything, we can't share for xyz reasons, blah blah blah. If somebody has told you directly where to go then go there first. What are we waiting for? If someone is holding you up then let us know. Do your job.
Exactly. Follow the damn information and stop pretending we have nothing to go off of
HARD data about NHI bodies being recovered.
Holy fucking shit, how did I miss this? What’s the HARD data?
Edit: Don’t just downvote and gatekeep this HARD data, share it with us.
It IS bullshit. It's literally NORAD's job to look 24/7. If any of our congress went right NOW and pulled authority they can ascertain instantly whether or not we have incursions into our airspace. How often. From where, how long and where they go.
The GOVT and general public HAVE been looking for years, decades, and seeing things!
My friend, there are accounts going back THOUSANDS of years of strange things in the sky.
Some of them, such as the 1561 Nuremberg story, are easily explainable with more contemporary knowledge.
Some others; not so easy to honestly explain.
I'm not trying to say 'youre wrong ' because obviously you're right, but I think it's helpful to the skeptics and otherwise underinformed people to not understate it.
The GOVT and general public HAVE been looking for years, decades, and seeing things!
Yes going by this sub the public have been seeing a lot of drones, satellites and birds. Taking really bad evidence and drawing unwarranted conclusions is the bread and butter of UFOlogy. Of course there's an interest here, it's fun to fill in gaps of knowledge with what we hope is true.
This assumption that because a lot of people misidentify clouds as smoke that there then must be a fire is just flat wrong. Everyone assumes something is going on but there is no proof and there isn't even any smoke.
As always, instead of assumption the question should be, where is the evidence?
The good old 'All Domain Anomoly Restoration Office'
They restore old used anomalies.
"We haven't been looking" is part of the hapless and endless PR narrative that keeps getting pushed by DoD. It is verifiably false and it bothers me she keeps pushing that angle. I don't think she's the ally some of you think she is.
Right on, Daddy-o!
She's trying to cut it down the middle but she also lat out stated adversaries are flying drones over our nuclear sites, which she knows is patently ridiculous. No condemnation from State? DoD? Biden? If we buzzed Iranian, Russian, and Chinese mainland airbases they'd shoot them down and raise holy hell at the UN.
So what's going on?
The US response is in no way consistent with adversaries flying aircraft over mainland US bases. And no US senator would even bother to comment if these incidents were convincingly explained by mass lighting balloon mishaps, optical illusions, or miscreant hobbyists.
Either the Department of Defense testing tech on servicemembers and civilians who work on those bases or it's something else. Which one?
Yes that's what I don't get. Why are they so nonchalant about enemies FLYING DRONES OVER OUR AIR BASES? That seems like number 1 thing to prevent at an air base.
Thanks for posting. Very interesting they talk about it so matter of factly. That would never have happened even a few years ago.
Also on YT.
Full interview with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand on Israel, border security & UFOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkASsEBAiY&t=6m50s
She has been partially read in, was super freaked out by what was shared with her, and now is firmly of the view that this hot potato is white HAWT. Whether she leans into controlled disclosure or whether she wants to try to screw the lid back on is supremely unclear
She’s playing the game to move things forward. If she goes down the alien path she’ll get less traction with the DoD. By keeping her messaging focused on drones, security, and unexplained phenomena she won’t get as much pushback.
The ole “drone deflect” executed perfectly 👏🏻
Her argument is that foreign adversaries are spying. She wants sensors to provide proof.
She knows where this leads.
Yup so many people in this sub are pissed at her, but she knows how the game is played in Government you have to push things along in a way that goes with the flow as going in with a wrecking ball just gets everyone riled up and in a stand still (Hi Republicans)
She is here putting pressure on the fact that we have to identify and deal with these "drones" over military bases wit the excuse that Russia and China could be behind them, which nobody in any camp can just dismiss, and yes if these things are of non prozaic origin we'll by "pure chance !" confirm it by doing so.
This is like what AOC is doing, she isn't going into a "true believer (tm)" crusade to find Aliens crafts in the government basements. She's going after the trail of money being funneled out of SAPs in order to fund dark projects. Neither camp can really dismiss her for doing so, and if by "pure chance" we find it leads to Aliens having a bathtub party under DoD well oh "Gee Chucks that was a coincidence"
Really have to be so literal in your way of reading and listening to all of these, the world actually works very differently then what is said on TV.
“We haven’t been looking” I think that says it all.
Totally wrong. We have been looking. It’s retarded to say we have no awareness of what’s in our skies. The military and intelligence agencies know full well and have high res imagery to show exactly what they’re looking at. They just won’t share them with anyone.
Gillibrand has lost all credibility in my book. She’s been playing dumb on this issue for years now.
Grusch tells everyone that he is fully aware of where these crafts are hidden, street addresses, NAMES of people in the program, the 1933 recovery, etc., and she’s really gonna say “Hmm, we just don’t know what these things could be!”.
Fuck you Gillibrand.
ffs dude when is the last time a politician of her rank has said in a prepared statement in a television show that "just don't know" rather then laugh it off as silly upon the mention of aliens.
God you guys just live in your little certitude of UFO community circle jerk that you are missing the very real advances being made here, while you flock to Bruchett and his ilk who talk big but in the end helped gut the Schumer/Rounds amendment
Jesus christ, I love this response. You are 100% dead-on.
Government.tomorrow could walk a gray on stage and go, "There, that's it."
This sub would scream "bullshit!", ignoring the obvious alien standing there, and go on to cry about the lizards, aquatics, gaseous, and interdimensional woo forces that aren't being acknowledged.
They are only happy with no progress when it's their heroes. A politician addresses this stuff in ANY serious manner consistently and they whine nonstop.
You said it better, ofc, it's just insane that they'd rather attack her than acknowledge the great advance her statement itself is making.
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We have definitely been looking. I think she means that she herself haven’t been looking or thought about looking or that she have for a long time just have been ignorant and unaware of how much we obviously but secretly have been been looking.
I love how they act so confident that we can just shoot these things down. Like we are the boss of everything. That way of thinking could be the demise of the human race. Once again, another politician sounding ignorant.
We haven't been looking. And we need to look ...
We of course have been looking, and being public about looking, for years.
The people who are required to maintain secrecy are having a very difficult time keeping their story straight.
No one will ever come out and just tell us openly what is going on because of their own fears of death. We are being kept in the dark for a reason. The AARO report was the start of the project blue book suppression. The 1 open hearing was the Warren commision meeting. This is a very old playbook they are using. It has worked countless times over and over because we lack critical thinking skills to see the truth. We know something is wrong but we allow them to lie to us and go on with our lives. You feel it and see it knowing that there is a problem with all of this yet we don’t question it. We allow the same game to play out over and over without question. They are working hard to put this back into the box, but just as pandora tried it is impossible once it has been opened.
"we haven't been looking" LMAOOOOOO
She is FULLY compromised. She IS ABSOLUTELY aware. Perhaps, she is a UI, perhaps she is a Career Politician, perhaps she is Playing the Game for the greater good? Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps. But I smell 💩
Nah, she knows.
She doesn’t know what she thinks?
GTFO!! "We haven't been looking"
You have specific programs that are doing exactly that.
Enough with the lies. We all see through it 🤣
Unfortunately we will never know the truth. For a brief second I thought something was going to break but even people like her are starting to back off a bit. The powers that be can just weight us out
We are so far from getting any reveal... they are stuck on china, russia, iran.... fuck the ppl for not seeing past this
They think we are fucking stupid.
Gillibrand:
-An avid supporter of Kirkpatrick
-Did not see a conflict of interest with Kirkpatrick’s professional background
-Did not see a conflict of interest with AARO sitting in the DOD
-Did not address Grusch’s classified testimony to the SSCI
-Did not attend Grusch’s public testimony on Jul 26th ‘23
-Continued to say Kirkpatrick was incredibly capable following LinkedIn outburst
-Pushed for Grusch to meet with Kirkpatrick
-Lamented Kirkpatrick stepping down
-Is now focused on prosaic adversarial incursions over following a trail of breadcrumbs unravelling the biggest conspiracy in human history
She's full of it. Stop the "clueless geriatric" act please, it's getting embarrassing.
She doesn't even need to rub her nose when she lies no wonder they make her get out here and do the interviews.
Why does she say they haven’t been looking?!
'I definitely don't know' is a very awkward turn of phrase!
Shes a bad actor.
I thought policies were already in place to shoot foreign things down that have violated airspace above sensitive US bases. Unless they are worried about shooting down NHI craft.
What an incredibly typical politician non answer
For over a year now, at every opportunity, Gillibrand had backpedaled and distanced herself from the search for UAP truth.
She is not fighting for us anymore, she is starting to be part of the problem.
She just said on live tv that there are things "in the air and under water" that we need to ascertain what they are because they might be Russia/Chinese drones (thus can't just ignore) and didn't push back nor laugh off the Hosts mention of "these could be aliens"
If you don't read in between the lines what she's saying, but believe Bruchett's pony shows. Well you might now deserve Disclosure after all.
No mention of chuck shumer's bipartisan non human intelligence bill lol Unbelievable
“We haven’t been looking.” We, as in the United States military. With global surveillance satellites mapping every square kilometer of our entire earth in real time. With radar, sonar, and IR tech in all our military efforts, with trained aviation and space aero technology experts designing and watching all sensitive airspace in the United States, including especially our military and nuclear facilities. You are telling me, as one of only 100 senators representing 300+ million people and quadrillions of our tax dollars and “inflation dollars” of technology… you are telling me that we “haven’t been looking.” What is this nonsense? Why are more and more congressional members as of late repeating this OBVIOUS lie to everyone? How simple do you think we all are? Or, even worse, do they THEMSELVES actually BELIEVE this lie?? Very patronizing or pathetic, not sure which.
Not really saying much
If we "haven't been looking" at what's in our skies, why has the Senate been trying to pass laws around forcing the disclosure of recovered craft to congress? They believe there is evidence that the recovery programs exist and are hidden from view or they wouldn't waste their time on legislation and that legislation wouldn't have been blocked and gutted. She is now pretending not to know?
Is it something we've never seen before?
Lies. Lies. Lies. Nat’l Security? We can’t deal with these “Chinese/Russian drones” flying all over our airports/AFB’s? They had to move F22 away from Langley for Christs sakes.
They couldn’t throw few them Raptors up in the air and take out these adversarial drones? The greatest fighter jet of on the planet had to be whisked away like Justin Bieber from the fucking paparazzi? Really? We are supposed to believe this pile of steaming bullshit? Give me a break .
I don’t believe her. She knows what’s out there and has knowledge of what the Department of Defense is hiding. But as all politicians in the know, she is controlled by those evil forces trying to discredit disclosure. I guess she is giving a little pep talk , maybe that’s as good as it gets.
Another vague non answer. Seems like she really isn’t overly interested in this other than for the politics of heading a committee
“We haven’t been looking” gimme a break. How much do we spend again on satellites + air defense etc. This whole situation is getting weirder and weirder lmao
"...we havent been looking..."
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It's also worth noting what Sen Gillibrand says in the beginning, that there are way more "unexplained situations" now than previously reported.
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