A Chicago citizen becomes a voice for the voiceless and speaks on Palestine during a city council meeting (Oct, 2023)
PoliticsGreat speech though
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My brother in Christ the Chicago city council does not have anything to do with Palestine or Israel, whomever they choose to condemn does not matter, it doesn’t effect anything. It is a city council. Tell them to fill in potholes. Tell them to put a stop sign on a four way intersection. Do not waste their time on political matters that a CITY COUNCIL, the actual lowest level of democracy, cannot control. Choose your battles, this one is a waste of time
They are the ones who decided to waste their time. They are your representatives, so they are telling the world you are OK with what they pass.
Maybe he should have pointed them out what a waste of time this was, but not saying a thing is accepting the situation.
So no, I do not agree with you at all.
Say something to your national representatives, the Chicago city council is not the place, they’re for the most mundane things imaginable.
Oh yeah I'm sure this guy could just walk right up to the Pentagon and give this speech there, sure that would go great.
What you're failing to realise is, despite this being a speech given to low-level government individuals, it is here and we are seeing it, talking about it. His voice is being heard, and it is being echoed throughout the country and will be heard by those who need to hear it. There's power in that.
If the Chicago City Council don't like their meetings being overrun and derailed by people wanting their government to stop supporting a genocide, then they'll be inclined to take those concerns and complaints higher up the chain. The whole country is buckling under the weight of it, people are not sitting by and just accepting this and it's not going to go away. Something must be done, the US government know that.
This man spoke to the levels of government he could reach, he didn't have the ability to go talk to Congress or the president, but he could speak at the Chicago City Council. So he spoke, and he was heard. There's power in that.
It’s here because a majority of people are laughing at him.
You vile people are the only joke here
Lmao. Thanks for making me laugh this morning
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Doesn't get enough attention in mom's basement I guess.
He wasn't speaking to the council, he was speaking to the world. Mission accomplished.
Fr
This is like asking what Ja Rule thinks
Yes, someone from Chicago who has never been near the Middle East and has no formal education in the matter is clearly THE authority on this conflict.
Good god y’all are dumb
No we just aren't jewish
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Ikr
I think Chicago has bigger issues than what’s happening in Gaza.
Performative nonsense
Chicago calling for a ceasefire in Gaza is pointless. We have plenty of problems of our own, and our mayor spends time & money dealing with this. Doesn’t make any sense.
Need a ceasefire in Chicago.
Considering the amount of American money that is going towards funding genocide I think getting the government to stop supporting Israel and their Holocaust is far from pointless even if you are a heartless bastard incapable of caring about The starving children in Gaza
You seem to overestimate what the mayor of Chicago can do to help those (legitimate) problems
As a Chicago resident I just have to laugh. This guy can’t even get the fucking potholes fixed
You don't have to fix the problem you just have to help even if it's a little even if it's barely anything you should at least try especially if you're in power
And calling out those in power who have already found their time to make the issue worse is never a bad thing
It's not help. It is a drain on city resources. It is time, effort, and money wasted on moralising instead of achieving material gains and helping real people. It is putting your own ego ahead of the lives of people who could actually benefit from concrete action.
How is the mayor of Chicago helping in any real sense?
Please bear in mind that the time he spends on this (and by this, I mean that which does not help) is less time he is helping those in the city of Chicago.
Because they're putting forward motions to condemn resistance against a ongoing genocide rather than addressing the genocide that is going on they are highlighting the resistance against it and condemning them for fighting back
That has zero impact and is nothing more than a waste of time and resources
Are electors are speaking up about an ongoing genocide and they have taken the side of the people committing the genocide
I wouldn't consider criticizing them for this a waste of time
It is. It is a waste of time. It does nothing.
Having elected officials who support genocide does not do nothing the only one wasting their time is you
Chicago has so many problems man we cannot be doing this shit good grief
The voiceless? Lmao, if you turn on the news the conflict is on every channel.
Sir, this is a Wendys energy
Well said
Gottem
Did somebody tell him he wasn't in Tel Aviv?
That's gold, please go on. And exactly where are they coming from?
Slay, King.
Telling your city council reveals your narcissistic intentions imo.
Israel is targeting Hamas who purposely hide amongst civilians knowing Israel doesn’t want to hit civilians! That’s not war crimes!
War crimes are Hamas targeting Israeli civilians for murder like on October 7th, or their suicide bombings campaign from 1993 – 2006 which murdered 803 Israelis.
Amnesty found no evidence of Hamas using human shields and reports having seen civilians get killed by Israeli missiles.
There is literally video footage and mountains of evidence of Hamas bases in hospitals, residential buildings, even playgrounds.
Can I see the evidence of Hamas buildings in those places? IDF soldiers have used calendars to try and “prove” there were Hamas members in a hospital they were in.
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2mo
Unpopular opinion, but I also don’t find Middle East forever-conflict “fun and entertaining”.
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2mo
There is no sides, there’s genocide and humanity. If you’re a human, you pick humanity, and if you don’t pick humanity, well… simple as that.
Not genocide but go on.
There absolutely is, there’s no question about it. There’s no way to bomb civilian targets exclusively and block civilian aid from entering Gaza and shoot the civilians attempting to collect the little aid that does get in without committing genocide. Next question.
Damn, they are bombing civilians exclusively yet the bomb to death ratio is lower than 1:1, a death toll which includes Hamas members by the way.
By January, Israel dropped just under 30k bombs on the strip. On February the official death toll given by Hamas themselves reached just above 30k (30,035 according to articles i can find). So, you tell me how can Israel allegedly carpet bomb civilians exclusively on the world's most dense urban enviorment, yet achieve such a miserable ratio of 1:1?
For perspective - when the aid airdrop had a parachute failure earlier this month, 5 people were killed by it.
If Genocide IS Israel's intention, then they aren't showing it. Hint: Genocide isn't defined by the number of casualties, but i'll let you do your own research on that.
As for aid blocks: the trucks aren't being blocked by the Israeli goverment but rather by civilians, some of which have family members still held hostage in Gaza with no sign of life. Hamas refuses to show proof that some of the aid like medicine is being brought to the hostages as well, and they aren't allowing the red cross to even see the hostages. Regardless - these are not Israeli goverment actions but rather protests by civilians.
That's why Israel allows aircrafts from USA, Jordan and other nations to fly over Israeli airspace to reach tbe strip and drop supplies. If blocking all supplies was their intent you wouldn't see a fucking port being built in Gaza.
Please try to argue using facts instead of emotions and tik-tok tier headlines.
The bombing is indiscriminate. There’s no ifs ands or buts about it. If this was not indiscriminate bombing, there would be far less than 30k dead, and there would not be such widespread destruction across the entirety of Gaza.
You don't achieve such a low bomb to death ratio by carpet bombing such a dense region. Tik tok isn't a reliable source for your news. Your buzz words are meaningless.
If you think this is indiscriminate bombing then you are living a very sheltered life and have never seen what war looks like. By your definition, literally every war is a genocide.
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2mo
There’s no such thing as Palestinian propaganda. You don’t need propaganda when the truth is enough to make people take your side.
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2mo
Damn, someone got mad. Palestinians don’t get to go a single second without the reminder that they are starving to death, being murdered, and being ethnically cleansed, which means you don’t get to go a single second without being reminded of it either
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2mo
Palestinians fucked around and find out
You’re trying to say there’s no such thing as Palestinian propaganda…??
Bro. Be real. Here’s one example.
They lied and said the IDF targeted a hospital and killed more than 500 people, mostly children, and destroyed the hospital.
What actually happened was a hospital parking lot was hit by a rocket launched from within Gaza and less than a dozen cars were damaged or destroyed.
I can’t say how many are dead, maybe it’s 0, maybe it’s 50, but it’s not 500, and it wasn’t the IDF, and the hospital still stood largely undamaged. Everything about it was a lie.
When challenged to find remnants of the missile the IDF dropped, Hamas said “it vaporized”. …??
When you lie like this, and such easily disproven lies, and you double down… do you think you’re doing your side any good?
That isn’t true at all, Israel did in fact bomb that hospital (as well as pretty much every other hospital in Gaza), and they admitted it… not to mention, your proposal is impossible considering the rocket came from the opposite direction you propose it was somehow launched from. It also, from the very easy-to-find video, sounds nothing like the rockets Hamas is known to use, but it sure sounds similar to a US JDAM missile, which Israel has access to and Hamas does not.
Okay, so you’re just lying too.
Note in the header photo the hospital still standing, the barely noticeable black “creator”, a few cars destroyed, some scorched, some fine.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6HcaYiuCK8
This shows the rocket barrage coming from inside Gaza, and one rocket veering off, followed by an explosion on the ground.
Additionally, I don’t know if “all hospitals” have been destroyed or damaged by the IDF, but if you use a hospital as a military base, for military personnel, for weapons, or as a staging ground for attacks, it loses its protected status. If Hamas was doing that, and it seems very much like they were doing that, a hospital becomes a valid target. You can be mad the IDF hit a hospital, that’s your right. You should be more mad that Hamas made it a legitimate target.
My guess is you won’t because it feels like you’re here for more of a propaganda purpose than a truth purpose, so unless if you want to actually discuss what’s going on in Gaza, I’d rather you not reply at all.
another "useful idiot" God have mercy on these degenerates
How is this tiktokcringe?! This is just a propaganda channel that uses clips from YouTube or news outlets and adds the tiktok logo to justify
That’s basically been what’s happened here since October 7th
This has become a Hamas propaganda sub. I can’t wait for TikTok to get banned.
Amen. Fuck the Hamas-holes.
Fuck the hamassholes!
100% agreed.
Sir this is a Wendy’s
Amen
Stop appealing to governments, start appealing to workers, to shut down economies in general strikes, to stop all arm and ammunition shipments to Israel and Ukraine. Governments will carry out nothing but token gestures like cease fires, it's upto the working class and youth to create and fuel the anti war movement to stop war altogether
May I ask? What is the point in stopping arm shipments to Ukraine? Why have them left to fend for themselves against Russian aggression? If you think Russia will stop there, you are awfully naive. Authoritarian states are not to be appeased no matter what.
It is hard not to see these types of sentiments and not begin to think the pro Palestine movement is supported by Russian propagandists
This one little hack that nobody talks about: Ask Hamas to return the hostages.
Or maybe Israel can stop murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people as collective punishment for the actions of a group none of those innocent people voted into power. Just a thought.
Yes as soon as they get the hostages back. Innocent but celebrated the Oct 7 massacres when they occurred. Short term pleasure for long term pain
Ah yes, those 40,000 children really had it coming, they totally deserved to have their young lives snuffed out before they even had a chance to really begin. Why was that again? Oh yes, because they "celebrated a massacre".
You are a vile human being, please re-evaluate everything you believe about this situation before you embarrass yourself any further.
I will not do anything of the sort. Imagine, for a moment, you want to kill everyone who doesn't believe in your religion. Actually imagine that? Are you capable? If you're not, you have no business in this argument because you can't put yourself in the shoes of Hamas, which is the controlling government in Gaza and majority support.
By their own admission a decent portion of the deaths have been military. Is a child suicide bomber a combatant? Please have one over for dinner and hope they don't drop the pin by accident
90% of the civilians in Gaza were under the age of 18 when Hamas were put in power. They did not vote for them. Hamas didn't even have a majority, they won through bribery, coercion and threats. So don't give me that bullshit about the people of Gaza supporting Hamas, because it's simply untrue.
And do you seriously think they had 40,000 child soldiers? Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of other civilians who have been killed. Hamas might say the deaths have been military, but see my first paragraph for why we shouldn't trust anything they have to say.
You can justify yourself to yourself in any way you see fit. But from my perspective and the perspectives of anyone with any amount of sense, all I see is someone trying really hard to justify the murder of 40,000 children. Get help, there's seriously something wrong with you, something rotten deep inside.
Will you murder for your religion? Can you fathom that?
“It’s up to the youth to stop war all together”
So beautifully said
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