Sasuke and Itachi pull up on but its Obito in the cave not Kabuto. Deathmatch. Who you got?
Vs BattlesJust to clarify because I didn't specify, Obito does not have his edo jinchuriki. It's just him.
This also means he gets access to all the Rinnegan abilities though. He says the reason he isn't using them is because he's focusing his chakra on controlling the Jinchuuriki/tailed beasts.
Damn, obito mops the floor with the brodas.
Do y’all not remember Itachi literally one shotting a rinnegan user?
I mean I’m not saying it’s a def win either way, but just because Obito has 1 rinnegan does not equal him stomping them both.
It's not the rinnegan, it's the fact he has a brain and thinks. The only reason Nagato was 1 shotted was because Kabuto took away his conscious and put him on zombie mode and Itachi caught him off guard while Zombie Nagato was destroying Naruto and Bee.
So what was madara’s excuse lol
He does use some Rinnegan abilities. Absorption, Tengai Shinsei, chakra chains, Rinne Rebirth (via Obito), and Limbo.
Obito was going to also use human path before kabuto suggested not to, Obito never used limbo, madara stated that it would be a bad idea to use limbo while Obito still had his other eye, so he didn’t showcase it until after Obito was weakened
Limbo was exclusive to strictly Madara . Pain did could not use limbo and neither could obito.
Madara implies that Obito could use limbo by his dialogue
Scan?
What dialogue if anything he says the opposite
Why would madara using limbo be a bad idea while Obito has his other eye?
I think Madara wanted to keep limbo as his trump card and using it while Obito could see the limbo clones would reveal how it works.
“Obito didn't have it only the original owner gets the unique ability of the Rinnegan. Obito's came from Madara whose ability was Limbo, but Obito never used it. Outside of the standard Rinnegan abilities Obito didn't have anything else”
I’m sure Obito wasn’t aware of limbo to use it
You’re assumptions isn’t a damn valid argument
Each rinnegan user has their own plus +1 just like sasuke has that time travel and user swap technique. Obito wasn’t the original user of that eye so he didn’t have that +1 feature added when he used the rinnegan
Why are people assuming Itachi would randomly start the fight with Izanami or even use it?
Even after his death, he seemed to consider Obito as the real Madara and was unaware of his plans outside of that (Neither was Pain for that matter, to be fair).
Like we have a whole ass conversation and snarks between Itachi and Kabuto helping Itachi to confirm that Kabuto was indeed suitable to be a victim of Izanami, he even addressed it by saying Kabuto reminds him of his past self which at that point he knew 100% Izanami would work.
He literally says Izanami is a forbidden jutsu not because of the cost (1 eye) but because it is a jutsu that is basically worthless for everyone as they have a way out wasily except a very special kind of target.
Like why would Itachi out of nowhere risk an eye when he has 0 idea if it will work or not? And if it doesnt, he automatically puts himself at greater risk which is not something Itachi would normally do.
That's why i hate vs, people argue by giving characters knowledge they never had.
Except Izanami would, in fact, work on Obito seeing as Naruto redeemed him, meaning Obito is a Izanami victim
Not that it helps the brothers win, I still got Obito winning 7/10 times (Due to Itachi just knowing his moveset, who knows, maybe he has counters)
We know that Izanami would work on Obito because we as readers are omniscient.
Characters aren't. Why would Itachi, that is under the impression that the man in front of him is truly Madara, use Izanami knowing it wouldn't work on Madara?
Same reason i always found hilarious that it's confirmed Itachi never figured how Kamui works in the years he spent around Obito but Konan did. So you are also wrong on that departament.
He has been around Obito since the Uchiha Massacre and he never figured out how his Kamui works.
Did I say 7/10 times? More like Obito wins 8/10 times then 😂
Also, if Itachi was as smart as he was with fighting Kabuto to deduce if he was susceptible or not to Izanami, I truly believe he’d find cracks in Obito and figure out the risk was worth it, I mean, bros an Edo, he has Izanami which basically confirms he has Izanagi, just use Izanagi and unwrite the eye loss 😂
Restricting the edo jinchurikis means obito wont need to expend chakra to hold the six paths of pain. Which gives him access to all rinnegan techs. This isn't much of a fight, obito would mop the floor with them.
Rinnegan users are hard counters to sharingan users in every department other than stats(It is a superior dojutsu), but in this case obito also has a mangekyou sharingan enhanced by hashirama cells, his stats are off the charts.
And izanami won't work on obito because izanami requires shared experiences to be actively repeated and looped by THE CASTER before the jutsu itself holds it naturally. Obito can remove himself from those loops by essentially removing himself from the dimension which will cause the jutsu to fall apart and itachi looses an eye for nothing.
Ur talking about izanami not izanagi
Damn, i need some sleep.
Obito is too fast, too haxed, and too durable for them to beat, both of there ms abilities are useless(Amaterasu is negged by preda path and iirc rinnegan users are immune to basically all visual genjutsu). Neither are fast enough to outspeed kamui and there only real wincon(izanami) is 1. A last resort 2. Obito would be aware of it and probably know what itachi is trying to do
Man the obito recognition is lovely to see. I expected a bunch of itachi fanboys to go “BUT ITACHI” but no.. White mask obito is a different beast
Obito wins. He summons gedo mazou. Idk wtf everyone else is talking about. Izanami wont work on obito as he isnt insecure about himself. Unlike kabuto hes FOUND a purpose. Kabuto was lost. Obito during his battle with naruto would be susceptible to izanami.
The point of izanami is to make the target accept reality. Obito literally wanted to plunge the world into illusion because he didn’t like reality. He is kind of the perfect target.
I thought Obito's thing was that he accepted that reality is shit and he wanted to change that through the infinite tsukuyomi. He gave up on it until naruto started bringing hope back into him near the end of their fight.
You have good philosophy skills. He did accept reality. He just literally didnt like it and wanted to abandon it for a new one. He was very secure in his decision until Naruto existence. Alot of people(especially here) dont understand the philosophical side of naruto. Obito even says to kakashi “because you let rin die” to fuck with him that WASNT 100% genuine. Obito had basically given up on the world..and his SAME EXACT will of becoming hokage FLIP to saving the world in his own twisted way. It was on some “im savinf everyone from themselves, they just dont know it yet” type of thing. He in his head was doing himself and everyone a favor. Kishimoto doesnt write brainless villians who just want destruction. Madara was narcissistic, obito was pessimistic.
I think Madara wanted save everyone from themselves. Obito was like fk all of this. Theres no point of living. Let everyone dream a happy existence.
Madara wanted to protect everyone in a narcissistic “only i can understand” way.
Obito was gonna force people to respect his will. Basically like naruto WILL to becoming hokage. Peep how obito helped itachu,sasuke..even gave naruto info instead of fighting him multiple times. He didn’t want those guys dead. He wanted them to lose hope …naruto wants people to have hope. Obito didnt. It confirmed his belief of reality being only cruel.
We need a sub for these discussions.
Yea kabuto and obito when they heal sasuke and naruto even talk about how each other lost their ways as well as who they truly were
I mean not really the perfect target when he has kamui
Idk man, Obito let himself get talked down by a 16 year old that’s not what I’d call “Standing on business”.
It was after having a psychological breakdown (when he became the ten tails) and after he rejected his madara person in order to become juubito.
He’s literally at his most vulnerable because he had to be written into losing. Mf was already losing his kamui ability so you could tell kishimoto was tryna take shots at him narratively as he couldn’t through the verse.
If talk no jutsu worked, why wouldn’t izanami
Izanami requires physical sensations to work, kamui negates that
Talk no jutsu is just yapping. Obito does it in reverse from naruto.
Izanami wont work on obito as he isnt insecure about himself.
Did we not watch the same show? Bro has a mental breakdown and swaps sides cause a funny looking 16 year old tells him to cope on😭
Obito doesn't suddenly gain insecurities
“Not insecure about himself” yet several chapters later her completely doubted his entire life path and had visions of what could have been, idk sounds like a prime Izanami candidate to me lol.
Read the last sentence of what you’re replying to. Then qoute it pls?
Doesn't Itachi neg with Izanami?
It's kinda perfect against someone like Obito.
If Obito wasn't aware of the Izanami's existence, that is.
What will he do if he is aware of it tho?
Obito can remove himself entirely from reality.
In izanami as long as you can prevent the loop from A-B or B-C from happening the loop would break and the jutsu wont hold.
Izanami wont work against people than can essentially change the situation (Permanently) and quickly like teleporters, people who can move btw dimensions, or people who can destroy the scene completely. These moves destroys the concept of creating shared experience loops and forcing a recreation of those experiences which is essential for izanami to hold.
Do you mean Izanami? Also, I’m confused by what you are saying. Are you saying Itachi won’t be able to cast the jutsu on Obito? Or are you saying Obito won’t be held by the jutsu even after it is cast?
You're right i meant izanami.
The jutsu "Izanami" needs preparation. Even after you find the necessary shared experiences of A B C and however many, you as the caster still need to actively recreate those circumstances a few times until the jutsu takes over and starts looping those experiences on the victim, obito can use kamui to remove himself entirely from the situation before the jutsu holds, itachi has no way to follow him to create a new experience which means the jutsu will fail.
Kabuto after casting Mukitensei (Inorganic formation) began to run away but itachi, still preparing his jutsu caught up to him and forced an experience until the jutsu held, he has no way to catch obito or follow him across spacetime.
Itachi would certainly begin to cast the jutsu, then obito like kabuto would realize something is wrong (im assuming he doesn't know about izanami here just for the sake of itachi and lets admit it, there is no way he doesn't know about izanami) then he will jump away to his dimension.
you need some physical experience to activate it. obito can counter it if he know what itachi planning
To get Izanami to work, you have to replicate a set of circumstances in a loop. It was described as the A and A’ in the loop.
Itachi used Kabuto attacking him while he was holding Sasuke’s sword.
You need to create a loop to triger Izanami. I doubt Itachi would last that long against Kamui
He's an Edo Tensei
I don't see how Itachi is going to pull off Izanami. The restriction on casting it would be practically impossible against Obito who is both faster and has Kamui.
Izanami requires physical sensations to work, kamui negates that , and madara already taught Obito all uchiha forbidden jutsu, he’s well aware
2 ways this can go.
Obito whoops his little cousin’s asses.
Or he gets trapped in Izanami.
Nope, it only goes one way, Obito putting belt to ass
Obito mid diffs. And that's with me assuming that he doesn't have his 6PoP which would low to neg diff.
Wood Release Great Spear Tree kinda negs Sasuke on its own. Gedo Mazo would also be a lot for them even without Obito.
I don't understand why people bring up Izanami like it doesn't require touching the opponent multiple times. Kamui makes that idea a joke.
Neither has an answer to Uchiha Flame Formation separating them into two easier 1v1s either.
Sasuke and Itachi win more times than not.
Kabuto would have killed Itachi considering he got outsped and cut in half iirc, he needs to protect Sasuke multiple times so sausukes just a liability, if he wasn't protecting Sasuke and Kabuto wanted to kill him Sasuke would be dead
Facts tho I love sasuke to death but individually the two brothers should have never won against sage kabuto, he was too haxed and too good the show had to plot armor win for the brothers lol
Itachi was an edo and he probably would have lost to kabuto withotu izanami lol. And if he was alive he'd be fucked
Kabuto was so fucking crazy in that fight it’s actually embarrassing to think how the uchiha brothers thought they had a chance and how the show wants us to take them seriously lol, the V’ ris have genjutsu c’guess what kabuto shut off his eyes, they have Amaterasu kabuto can shed his skin and can camouflage into the walls and you know what’s so funny is that kabuto won the fight so quick too when used the white extreme attack, and paralyzed sauce, and itchy, sasuke could NOT pull out his susanoo and itachi couldn’t either until he "overpowered" the attack cause he wanted to protect sasuke lol plot armor at its finest why didn’t kabuto just attack itachi then.
How come Itachi won then?
Itachi would have low diffed Kabuto if he was trying to kill him.
How is any of this relevant anyway?
For real. Itachi had to talk Sasuke into holding back a couple of times because Sasuke was ready to go for the kill. Neither of the Uchiha bros even used their completed forms of Susanoo, nor did Itachi use his hax sword and shield.
Obito
duo mid to high diff
Dude, obito molests them.
Obito fucking claps, dude. But you knew that already.
If they somehow manage to break his mask, it might be possible for Itachi to prep an izanami to which that may lead to a wholesome ending
I mean u gotta remember the itachi was said to be nearly invincible with his susanoo
I give it to the bros but it’s not gonna be fun and someone is missing an arm
Totsuka GG
What's obito gonna do? Suck one into kamui? Great next time he uses the dimension he gets whacked so good luck fighting Itachi or Sasuke without kamui. Besides the longer he fights the more susceptible he is to repeat his actions and fall to izanami.
I mean technically not even genjutsu can work on obito. He isn't anchored to our dimension, so when a part of his body would make contact with something it goes to the kami dimension. Therefore not even tsukuyomi can get him.
But itachi would probably play dirty and use izanagi to fuck over obito. And itachi is reanimated so it's fine to lose both his eyes if it means sasuke lives.
Worst case they can use it 3 times to stop obito after he uses it twice. And yes that's probably their only win condition.
Obito, I know everyone says “kamui” and realistically that’s one of the things saving him but with rinnegan he has access to things like gedo statue and should have access to all the abilities pain had (unless stated otherwise) since he took the eye from him
WM obito has 3 different valid methods of jutsu negation here lmao. Kamui, preta path, and the uchiha war fan. So it’s safe to say any ninjutsu thrown at him won’t do shit. Neither would Amaterasu since WM obito scales above v2 A in speed who casually dodged it.
Tsukuyomi is a non factor as obito has far and away the stronger dojutsus to break out and can avoid it by simply not looking itachi in the eyes.
Susanoo won’t do anything to kamui. In fact, it makes them more of sitting ducks.
Izanami is the win con everyone’s talking about here but they forget it takes two instances of physical contact to loop and activate and a lot of time to set up. By then they’d be dead.
WM obito low-mid diffs
Sasuke and itachi win. Sasuke and naruto fought a stronger version and Sasuke did amazingly well. Ppl forget tht. And ppl also forget tht obito never displayed amazing rinnegan feats. Even pain showed better rinnegan usage
Obito knows about the izanami and, even though it MIGHT work on him, he literally can just go into kamui to bypass it.
So, this just leaves us with one question: how exactly would Sasuke and Itachi touch him?
They can’t. Obito wins mid diff.
Now the both of them don’t need to hold back, I say Team with High Diff.
Brothers
It’s basically nagato with kamui so they are in trouble. He can faze through Totsuka is there best option besides Izanami which might work as it’s basically Talk no Jutsu in genjutsu form so it might work but you could argue against it.
idk i never thought obito was that strong. he got bodied by kakashi. although kakashi seems to be invincible with plot armor so maybe that was a huge feat idk.
i just dont think obito can take prime Itachi and sasuke. those are s-tier characters with HUGE adaptability. obito is just a prepper. maybe obito wins with prep but itachi and sasukes kits combined is just too many damn options and techniques for obito to handle
Itachi and sasuke clap
Obtio can win following an extremely specific game plan. The bigger threat is undoubtedly Itachi, so he needs to get him out of the cave and somewhere in the Kamui Dimension. From there, he straight up defeats Sasuke, albeit with much difficulty.
If he has the Edo-Jin, he stomps badly.
Obito is delulu
Izanami wrecks him
Obito ain't Kabuto, he knows about the Izanami. Itachi must replicate and enforce a specific sequence of sensations or actions shared between himself and Obito, Obito would just constantly vary his attack patterns and avoid repeating specific actions or experiencing the same sensations that could be used against him.
How do you know he knows?
Madara taught him the Uchiha Forbidden Jutsu, and in Itachi's novel, he straight up tells Itachi he knows everything about the Uchihas.
Oh ok then
Did you miss the part where madara taught him all uchiha forbidden jutsu through genjutsu?
Vary his attack patterns?
This is the guy who is constantly trying to Kamui warp all of his opponents, even to his detriment.
I would say Obito has the least varied tactics in the series.
This is the guy whose solution to failing to warp his opponents is to warp faster.
He's the guy who got injured numerous times trying to warp people.
He isn't going to vary his fighting style for anything, bro.
Dude obito can remove himself from the loops. He can leave the dimension and stay there essentially breaking the loops, izanami wont work against someone like that. The moment even one experience isn't shared the jutsu falls apart.
Your solution is to have Obito run away?
Then he definitely loses.
No he removes himself temporarily until the jutsu breaks once the loops stops happening, comes back to a poor itachi with one eye. The battle just takes longer.
First of all, Itachi wouldn't lose the eye if Izanami wasn't activated.
Secondly, if Obito teleports out every time he thinks Itachi is setting up Izanami, there's no hope for him.
Lastly, running away is a technical forfeit, so it's a moot point.
First of all, Itachi wouldn't lose the eye if Izanami wasn't activated.
Wrong, izanami is cast immediately but it still needs time to hold, the moment kabuto stabs itachi he was still setting things up, that was only experience A, B and C hasn't happened yet (he even told sasuke not to be impatient after experience A because "the izanami isn't ready yet") and itachi had lost his eye. The eye comes back because of the loops, but technically itachi has used the eye to begin the jutsu which means whether it works or not the eye is forfeited.
Secondly, if Obito teleports out every time he thinks Itachi is setting up Izanami, there's no hope for him.
Wrong again, he can easily come back to a one eyed itachi and continue the fight.
Lastly, running away is a technical forfeit, so it's a moot point.
Do you ever get tired of being wrong? There are no battle requirements here that says obito can't use one of his jutsu, he hid in his timespace when naruto used a bijudama on him (was that fight forfeited?), why can't he hide vs the brothers.
Perhaps you should stop clawing at any chance these siblings have of winning because there is non. Op also specified in response to someone that obito is not using six paths jutsu on the jinchurikis, which means his rinnegan has access to all abilities, you can imagine how much of a stomp this is.
Wrong kiddo!
I see you accepted defeat by doubling down on your stupidity.
Do you ever get tired of pretending to know what you're talking about, when in reality you have no clue?
Maybe you saw the anime, but the manga is different. He didn't engage Izanami until the loop was completed. Or maybe you are one of those casuals who saw the series through Tiktok 🤷♂️.
Wrong kiddo!
I see you accepted defeat by doubling down on your stupidity.
Do you ever get tired of pretending to know what you're talking about, when in reality you have no clue?
Hmmm at least argue.
Maybe you saw the anime, but the manga is different. He didn't engage Izanami until the loop was completed. Or maybe you are one of those casuals who saw the series through Tiktok 🤷♂️.
This is when itachi cast the izanami.
This is when he took C.
So yes, even after he lost the eye the jutsu wasn't complete.
Maybe try arguing with evidence before raining in the insults next time.
If Obito understands that the Izanami requires the replication and enforcement of a specific sequence of sensations or actions shared between the caster and the target and knows its being used against him then why in the world would he repeat the same actions? 🤦♂️ Give him a little credit, he's not that dumb and yeah he has a certain fighting style, but it doesn't mean he's incapable of changing it when needed. He does have other jutsu at his disposal, he's not a one trick pony.
Read what I wrote.
He repeatedly performs the same actions even after the first attempt failed. 🤦♂️
There is no credit to give Obito here.
Read what I wrote.
"If Obito understands that the Izanami requires the replication and enforcement of a specific sequence of sensations or actions shared between the caster and the target and knows its being used against him then why in the world would he repeat the same actions? 🤦♂️" he wouldn't but you think Obito is portrayed as some fool who sticks to a single approach and is incapable of adjusting his fighting style, even when he knows its vital to avoid getting caught in the Izanami loop.
I don't know what's more stupid, Obito's deliberate choice to not change his attack pattern despite knowing its importance, or your belief that Obito is truly incapable of adjusting his fighting style and is that unintelligent.
Wait, is this the guy that warped Kakashi into Kamui, who then proceeded to punch Obito because he was using Kamui?
Yup, he's pretty dumb. Nuff said.
In the heat of battle, making unconventional or unexpected moves doesn't equate to being unintelligent, sometimes your body just moves on its own but if you want to believe Obito is presented as "pretty dumb," then that's on you.
Obito has six Bijuu on his side and held off Bijuu Naruto Kakashi Bee and Guy on his own he mid diffs.
Even if you take the Bijuu away Kamui plus chakra stakes give the bros a bad day.
Don't forget he has the Sage's Sealing Tools and the OP Gunbai Fan.
Obito. Especially with the rinnegan dude is more comparable to kcm2 Naruto and is able to outspeed both. He can easily react to Amaterasu since he isn’t off guard this time. He has the advantage overall
Obito wins easily.
Obito claps , kamui + rinnegan abilities
Bruh why is this even a debate itachi and sasuke mop the floor with him
Obito is quite helpless against sick itachi much less an edo tensei
🤡
Izanami Is the perfect counter for Obito...
Yeah, but it doesn't mean it would get properly executed against him, Obito would disrupt its set-up process.
The problem Is that Izanami is the most broken abilities of the series, has no canon counter, if used by an edo tensei u cant interrupt the set up bacause u can tank everything, Izanami Is literraly the peak of Genjutsu...its like giving Might Guy 8th gate an edo tensei body
Unlike Kabuto, Obito is aware of the jutsus existence and would know to just constantly vary his attack patterns and avoid repeating specific actions or experiencing the same sensations that could be used against him. Kabuto didn't know of the Izanami's existence or how it functions, if he did, he'd have approached the battle a lot differently and Obito has a solution to dealing with edotensei, he has black rods and the sages treasured sealing tools that can seal away anything and everything.
Its confirmed that Obito know about Izanami? And once Itachi set up Izanami u cant escape it the actions will repeat forever until the victim accept his fate and since we dont know about the counter (eyes ability? Enough Chakra release? We Will never know...) we cant say for sure that Obito Will counter it
Madara did teach Obito the Uchiha Forbidden Jutsu, and in Itachi's novel, Obito (Masked Man) says he knows everything about the Uchihas. Itachi has to snap and record a moment or sensation that both he and Obito experience with his sharingan and replicate it, and that'll be hard to do when your opponent is aware of its existence. Usually, when Izanami was used against a target, the target didn't know about the jutsu.
In the filler, when Naori Uchiha used Izanami against Naka Uchiha, he had no idea what Izanami was. Similarly, when Itachi used Izanami on Kabuto, Kabuto was unaware of its existence and given the fact Kabuto absorbed Orochimaru's power and still didn't know about it, it's safe to say that even Orochimaru didn't know about Izanami, not until he took back his chakra from Kabuto.
Edited: And to whomever is down voting me, you know it's the damn truth.
True and now u made me think that was probably Obito who teach Itachi the Izanami (during his fight with Sasuke Itachi said that "Madara" was his master) but how do u tell if someone its setting up Izanami?
The key to recognizing the setup of Izanami lies in noticing repeated actions or events that seem inexplicably familiar or redundant. Kabuto recognized Itachi was repeating attack patterns but didn't really make anything of it because he didn't know the Izanami was being set up because he didn't know what Izanami even was. Kabuto said "It's all just déjàvu to me."
If Kabuto knew what it was and recognized Itachi using the same attack patterns, he'd figure out he's setting up Izanami and switch up his strategy.
No the second time u see the same attack pattern u are already in the Izanami, we know that because the first time Itachi cut Kabuto horn but how can he repeat the same actions how can Itachi cut the same horn the second time? Ergo after the first attack pattern Kabuto was already in the Izanami
Itachi has to replicate the same exact sensation he did the first time to complete the Izanami so if he looks like he's about to do the same attack again avoid using the same tactic you used the first time to counter it that's why you have to alter your tactics and if you are constantly altering your attack patterns he'll never be able to complete the loop.
Edited: Kabuto stabbed Itachi in the stomach twice with Sasuke's blade, once he did that the second time it was over for him.
They mid diff him
Itachi solos, next.
Of Course you'll say that.
Sasuke has the ultimate counter to obtio, surrounding himself with amaterasu.
Obito can shinra tensei it off
If Obito can use all of the sage of six paths powers, he easily wins. But there is no evidence that he can use those powers.
literally stated by Kakashi and he himself he would be able to use them if he wasnt wasting chakra controlling 6 bijuu. the fact that he made the six paths of jinchuriki is proof enough he is able to use the abilities of the rinnegan. Not to mention he was able to use rinne rebirth, control the gedo statue, use rinnegan curse mark chains, and even wanted to use the ningendo path on Yamato
What about when the bijuu were back in the gedo statue, why didn't he use the powers then? You don't just get access to some of the most powerful jutsus in the series and then just not use them, that doesn't make any sense.
That’s when he became the 10 tails & got truth seeking orbs that negate all jutsu, no point in using the rinnegan powers when those orbs are all you need & only senjutsu & taijutsu works against you
People in this sub don’t pay attention nor can they comprehend the story 9/10
Actually there’s tons of evidence and he actually already did use the powers
Yeah cause... Obito totally got hurt by amaterasu the first time right.
he was wailing and screaming so most likely he used Izanagi to escape the Amaterasu, you only got 2 chances for that unless you have something like danzo's arm
Obito's win-con is touching someone and transporting them to his dimension, hard to touch someone when they are surrounded by Amaterasu.
I just realized it's edo Itachi, if it was alive he'd just beat his ass.
Yeah Itachi can probably outlast him since he's literally immortal, no drawbacks to the amaterasu, though he can't control the flames. Even then Obito might be able to go through the ground and grab him, similar to how Kabuto cut him in half. It just depends on how fast you think kamui is, we know it's relative to a susano arrows speed but that's kakashi's kamui, it couldn't suck Minato up but tbf all Minato had to be able to do was react which isn't saying much, Itachi might just win since he's immortal and isn't too far behind Obito in strength, meaning he can easily outlast him.
Right? 😂😂
Amaterasu is totally useless especially if we restrict the edo jinchuriki and give obito full access to rinnegan techs.
Sasuke isn't a component in this fight, constantly needing to be saved by Itachi, he would be dead if Itachi wasn't there and Kabuto wanted to kill him. I know everyone brings up Izanami but it's not that big of a deal since it took so long to use. But if he uses it then yeah Itachi probably wins. Obito can phase through all of itachi's attacks, he can literally walk through his susano, since obitos faster than Itachi then he probably wins. He also has to deal with his rinnegan abilities since he's not controlling the jinjuriki, also the gedo statue fucks Itachi up. Too many win cons for Obito, his susano is a useless defense since Obito mainly goes for short range, and it's abilities are mid-long range, and so easy to phase through. He just phases until he gets through the susanoo, no yata mirror, no totsuka blade, he just fights itachi in short range in the susanoo, we've seen what the amaterasu can do to Obito, absolutely nothing, he can react fast enough to kamui through it and barely get hurt.
Obito wins by like a lot. Neither of them have answers to Kamui. Kamui + rinnenigon soul yank gg.
Itachi solos easily. Might have to take a pause to think "Hmm I wonder how I feel like beating him... Completely diff him in a genjutsu fight? Amaterasu him since we know he can get hit by it? Seal him with the totsuka blade? Simply outskill him? Guess it's up to the mood.
Maybe on Opposite Day
"Opposite day" is only practiced in kindergartens, where the Itachi downplayers/haters hail from.
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