So6p base Naruto vs 8 Gates Guy, who would win?
DiscussionSure, u can clearly see he still had bruises, was still bleeding and had a broken horn. Plus the fact that he asks himself if its cos he hadnt finished healing yet proves that he wasnt fully healed. He wouldnt ask himself that if he was at full health in the first place. "His powers suddenly grown" doesnt deny this fact, it only adds to the reasons he was struggling at that moment
But he directly says no. Meaning that him not being healed fully wasn't a factor. Even if he was fully healed he would have still got one shot from Naruto. To add to this, Naruto actually does cut the god tree completely and Cuts Madara in half. Madara lays there afterwards and begins to contemplate his existence and then instantly goes for more power. He never once went for more power with Guy, he got up and was excited to continue but Guy was done. His entire personality changed when Naruto appeared and he actually got serious and worried, something Guy wasn't able to make Madara do. Like others have stated, Naruto was just in a completely different tier of power once he got the boost and him showing up and doing what he did to Madara shows that. He did damage to Madara in less time and with no help. Even made Madara use limbo which is something he never felt the need to do with Guy
The no doesnt mean it wasnt a factor. Think, why would he ask himself that if it wasnt a factor? The no only means along with him being weakened, naruto becoming stronger is also a reason for him struggling and doesnt deny that he was weakened. The rasenshuriken didnt cut him in half, it only made a cut on this weakened madara while night guy almost blew half of his body away. He never knew the god tree was a source of power, he only went for it cos the tree told him to. Him getting serious against naruto is cos he doesnt know how much stronger he got, also the fact that he was weakened and was on the verge of death. Hed get serious if guy suddenly jumped back up and used 8 gates again.
No it doesn't. That's complete conjecture. The no clearly means that it wasn't a factor at all. I'm not sure why he would ask himself that but the fact is he immediately rejected that himself. That's what the no means. No doesn't mean as well as it means no. You're trying to make Guy sound better than he is but you're having to twist words and the narrative for that to happen and the fact is Madara rejected the idea so him not being fully healed wasn't a factor. Like I said the word no is a rejection not an adding to the fact.
It literally cut him in half and again as we've established he wasn't weakened he just hadn't fully healed, Madara already rejected that idea so get over it. And why did the tree tell him to do that I wonder, almost as if it knew that Madara couldn't beat this version of Naruto and needed more power to handle him. Also saying he didn't know the god tree was a source of power is complete headcannon. He knew about the god tree and the chakra fruit that it sprouted, meaning he knew that power did come from the god tree so you made that up.
He didn't know how much stronger Guy had gotten and he didn't get serious with him, just kept toying with him so that's that one out of the window. Wasn't on the verge of death, he healed most of the way just not completely so you can get that right as well. He literally got up laughing and asked Guy if he could continue and was more disappointed that he couldn't so that's also complete conjecture. We get it you like Guy but the narrative is made very clear and that is that Naruto even in base SPSM was just leagues above Guy...
Don't try it man. This person clearly only sees what it's convenient for their agenda. Many such cases in the Naruto fandom
I saw that when reading through this thread. The thing is he ended up taking an L every. Single. Time. He hasn't even replied to my last comment because he clearly knows I'm right and he can't debunk me.
I'm new to this sub, I'm new to reddit. I'm not new to Naruto, though. I've been debating Naruto topics for years now. I came to this sub thinking it is a new bunch of people, and they might know better. I was proven wrong. Some takes are a lot better than others. Generally, 70% of people in this sub know what they are talking about. Which is more than I've ever come across in my 20 years of being a Naruto fan. The problem is that the last 30% in this sub are so much dumber and so much more stupid than anyone I've ever met in any other discussion. People like this guy.
"Madara didn't know the God Tree was a source of power." Even though Madara told the story of Kaguya gaining power by eating the fruit from the God Tree. This means the God Tree was the source of that power, and Madara knew about it. Honestly, make it make sense!
"Im not sure why he would ask himself that", u urself dont have an answer to this yet keep pushing that im wrong. Also in what world would it make sense that being injured doesnt weaken you? Is the sasuke thats beat up and used as a skateboard by ishiiki the same power as the one right before that fought him? And u can clearly see madara was still injured as he was bleeding, had bruises and had a broken horn.
No it didnt cut him in half , u can clearly see his lower body is still intact, it only MADE a cut on his body. The tree told him to do that cos only absorbing the tree gives the ability to awaken rinnesharingan to cast the IT, he was literally confused that the tree was talking to him. He only knows the fruit from the tree gives power not the tree itself.
He underestimated guy and was at full health when he fought him which is why he urged him to go on, and he straight up admits guy nearly killed him so he was on the verge of death.