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Naruto. The point of that was to show how much Naruto got stronger with six paths.
Might Guy's strongest attack put a dent in the God Tree, while Naruto was able to slice it down with a Lava Rasenshuriken without much effort.
Madara also straight up ran away from this Naruto. He also felt the need to use a limbo clone against him. Madara didn't feel the need to use that against Might Guy even though it would've stopped him.
People seem to disregard how Madara intentionally fought like that against Gai knowing he will win and he was just having fun with an opponent that had the final gate opened.
He saw Naruto and immediately realized he was an actual threat that could beat/kill him and took him seriously.
People seem to disregard how Madara intentionally fought like that against Gai knowing he will win and he was just having fun with an opponent that had the final gate opened.
Bro was literally laughing his ass off as Guy was actively killing himself while rushing at him full speed
I thought it was more of Madara was really interested in seeing how powerful the 8th gate was. He had contingencies (obviously) but I definitely think he took Guy seriously.
Don’t tell Guy Stans this they think dude can one shot anyone short of Kaguya
Basically this. Naruto in SPSM even without the Kurama cloak is a monster. He embarrassed the version of Jubidara that Guy fought, and then he and Sasuke danced with a stronger version of Jubidara who had the god tree absorbed.
Naruto and Sasuke only proceeded to get stronger and stronger across the war after getting their six paths powers. I love Guy, but he gets washed by either of them.
You're forgetting that Madara had just survived getting hit with the night guy technique. So if Naruto's new power and Madara and that we can condition of course he was going to run away.
Madara regenerated and had unlimited Chakra at that point.
No he didn't, that was after when he absorbed the divine tree Naruto sliced with the lava style rasenshuriken
It’s weird how Night Guy managed to blow off more than half of Madara’s body but the Lava Rasenshuriken only gives Madara that huge chest scar.
Yeah, I see a lot of people here wanking about what Naruto did to the tree (most likely Naruto fans), but it should be about what their attack did to Madara, and Guy's attack blew up Madara's upper left body (destroyed part of his heart which is crazy), while Naruto's attack put a cut on Madara's midsection, but he was still able to get up from that and hadn't regenerated from Naruto's attack yet after getting up.
Also, I think it's unfair to Guy as it was Madara's body that really hit the tree... I still don't believe the tree would've been destroyed if Guy actually kicked it, but the Rasenshuriken (especially a Lava Style variant) is MEANT TO CUT THROUGH which is literally why Naruto used it, so comparing that to a very different kind of attack that is solely meant for a person (not a god tree) is pointless.
That's wrong, Naruto's attack was with ninjutsu that was extended, while Might guy's moveset is limited to raw, focused physical strength. And might guy's attacks were done on Madara's body, and if might guy attacked the divine tree directly, Shabad could destroy it with one blow, considering that Naruto's Rasen shuriken was able to split the divine tree in two, but he couldn't. to do the work with Madara, so Madara's durability was probably longer than the divine tree's durability and might guy was able to break it without touching TSO, but even though Naruto touched it, he still could not break Madara's TSO and MIGHT GUY is fast is and Naruto has no way to hurt him and MIGHT GUY is much faster than probably an injured JUBI MADARA who is regenerating and is taken by surprise and is only pressured by the time limit, MIGHT GUY is stronger but Naruto He will probably win
What is this ridiculous argument about a Guy leaving a dent in the tree and Naruto slicing it down? Guy wasn't attacking the tree. Madara took on the full kick and got launched into one of the roots. This isn't the feat you think it is.
You say the point was 'to show how much Naruto got stronger with six paths' and that is true but that's not the full scope of the point. Madara admits just prior that he hasn't finished healing yet. The 'No!' His power's suddenly grown?!' is the reason for his current struggle in defending Naruto's punch. There is no denying that Guy weakened him to such a degree that his life was actually at stake. We see he's still not fully healed by the time the Lava Rasenshuriken hits.
Madara was indeed entertaining the fight against Guy, but we also see he clearly bites off more than he can chew in just the Sekizo assault. Madara manages to to react to the first Sekizo punch by creating a barrier with the TSO, fails to react to the second one and the shock was so great that he's physically unable create another barrier or alter it to point in the direction of the successive punches. If he was physically unable to move or think fast enough to continuously defend against the other punches then I don't see why he'd be able to make use of his Limbo clones here either. He invited the Night Guy attack, excited for the opportunity and spectacle but also confident in his regenerative abilities.
You are so right. Madara was curious about the 8th gate but had no clue what he was getting himself into.
Might guys strongest attack blew almost half of madaras body away while the rasenshuriken only made a cut against this weakened madara. Plus theyre different types of attacks, rasenshuriken is meant to cut while night guy isnt, u dont think sasukes chidori spear > lava rasenshuriken cos madara was cut in half by chidori spear do u?
Madara ran cos he was weakened and didnt know how strong naruto got. Key point being weakend by night guy otherwise hed stay and fight
I don't see him being really weakened by guy. He recovered almost instantly, barely used any chakra against him and has an extremely high supply of chakra anyway
He wasnt fully recovered
Can you provide anything that backs up that statement?
Sure, u can clearly see he still had bruises, was still bleeding and had a broken horn. Plus the fact that he asks himself if its cos he hadnt finished healing yet proves that he wasnt fully healed. He wouldnt ask himself that if he was at full health in the first place. "His powers suddenly grown" doesnt deny this fact, it only adds to the reasons he was struggling at that moment
Lmao he directly states that he's flinching not because he was healing but because Naruto actually poses a threat. Naruto fans read only what they want to read lol
"Is it because i havent finished healing yet?" establishes 'i havent finished healing yet' as a fact. Also why would he ask himself this if he actually finished healing, yall cant think
But he directly says no. Meaning that him not being healed fully wasn't a factor. Even if he was fully healed he would have still got one shot from Naruto. To add to this, Naruto actually does cut the god tree completely and Cuts Madara in half. Madara lays there afterwards and begins to contemplate his existence and then instantly goes for more power. He never once went for more power with Guy, he got up and was excited to continue but Guy was done. His entire personality changed when Naruto appeared and he actually got serious and worried, something Guy wasn't able to make Madara do. Like others have stated, Naruto was just in a completely different tier of power once he got the boost and him showing up and doing what he did to Madara shows that. He did damage to Madara in less time and with no help. Even made Madara use limbo which is something he never felt the need to do with Guy
The no doesnt mean it wasnt a factor. Think, why would he ask himself that if it wasnt a factor? The no only means along with him being weakened, naruto becoming stronger is also a reason for him struggling and doesnt deny that he was weakened. The rasenshuriken didnt cut him in half, it only made a cut on this weakened madara while night guy almost blew half of his body away. He never knew the god tree was a source of power, he only went for it cos the tree told him to. Him getting serious against naruto is cos he doesnt know how much stronger he got, also the fact that he was weakened and was on the verge of death. Hed get serious if guy suddenly jumped back up and used 8 gates again.
No it doesn't. That's complete conjecture. The no clearly means that it wasn't a factor at all. I'm not sure why he would ask himself that but the fact is he immediately rejected that himself. That's what the no means. No doesn't mean as well as it means no. You're trying to make Guy sound better than he is but you're having to twist words and the narrative for that to happen and the fact is Madara rejected the idea so him not being fully healed wasn't a factor. Like I said the word no is a rejection not an adding to the fact.
It literally cut him in half and again as we've established he wasn't weakened he just hadn't fully healed, Madara already rejected that idea so get over it. And why did the tree tell him to do that I wonder, almost as if it knew that Madara couldn't beat this version of Naruto and needed more power to handle him. Also saying he didn't know the god tree was a source of power is complete headcannon. He knew about the god tree and the chakra fruit that it sprouted, meaning he knew that power did come from the god tree so you made that up.
He didn't know how much stronger Guy had gotten and he didn't get serious with him, just kept toying with him so that's that one out of the window. Wasn't on the verge of death, he healed most of the way just not completely so you can get that right as well. He literally got up laughing and asked Guy if he could continue and was more disappointed that he couldn't so that's also complete conjecture. We get it you like Guy but the narrative is made very clear and that is that Naruto even in base SPSM was just leagues above Guy...
Don't try it man. This person clearly only sees what it's convenient for their agenda. Many such cases in the Naruto fandom
"Im not sure why he would ask himself that", u urself dont have an answer to this yet keep pushing that im wrong. Also in what world would it make sense that being injured doesnt weaken you? Is the sasuke thats beat up and used as a skateboard by ishiiki the same power as the one right before that fought him? And u can clearly see madara was still injured as he was bleeding, had bruises and had a broken horn.
No it didnt cut him in half , u can clearly see his lower body is still intact, it only MADE a cut on his body. The tree told him to do that cos only absorbing the tree gives the ability to awaken rinnesharingan to cast the IT, he was literally confused that the tree was talking to him. He only knows the fruit from the tree gives power not the tree itself.
He underestimated guy and was at full health when he fought him which is why he urged him to go on, and he straight up admits guy nearly killed him so he was on the verge of death.
That's a good point you have then, probably he rushed to heal the worst part as quickly as possible as to be save for the moment and then focussed on other things, like maybe holding his chakra output low as to being able to react to further attacks or something? Idk
He still seems to struggle more against naruto tho later on, we can see that in his fighting style even when he can't just be "weakened" by guy anymore
Guy's strongest attack was also a one shot deal that left himself a dying charred corpse and also was a coordinated effort to get it to land
Naruto's opener was a solo act that cut Madara in half and Naruto hadn't even cloaked up yet.
Night guy wasnt landed cos of minato or kakashis help. The rasenshuriken didnt cut him in half and madara wasnt at full power either
Ur gonna get ninja aids dude, if you keep meat riding and glazing Madara like this.
You are forgetting the flaw in your argument: The series isn't called "Gai". The main character is able to do anything. Name it Harry potter or any other.
In an objective scale of power I think Gai would have killed Naruto instantly.
An objective scale power related to fantasy of any kind is paradoxical. The writer at any moment can end the circle jerk fest over made up men in their imaginations by just writing the story how he wants.
Naruto
Guy has time limit
If it wasn't for Minato , guy would have died by orb but Naruto was able to kick it (Naruto also has orbs and guy can't counter them)
Naruto got regeneration
Naruto has power of plot (friendship) , this alone makes him stronger than anyone around
Naruto doesnt have orbs in base SPSM
I assume he could theoretically use them even in base, he technically has the ability to
Not too sure about that
but
Power of friendship will work
might guy releasing all PHYSICAL limiters is just that. removing physical limitations. naruto by default had access to many things that puts him past guy
Naruto, has the reflexes, precognition, can use a wide variety of jutsus, fast enough to kick madara's truth seeking orb, strong enough to deflect it, naruto can heal and doesn't have time limit... On top of that, naruto can use ninjutsu techniques
Madara was playing with guy, guy was his toy, and that's it...
But as soon as madara saw how strong naruto and sasuke were he shat himself and ran like a crazy to get his second eye and use more limbo clones even that upgrade wasn't enough to beat them, he had to absorb the shinju to get the chakra back inside him...
Guy wasnt his toy, he wasnt able to keep up, but was still happy to face his first 8th gate user which happened to be the strongest opponent he faced before Naruto
All of that is right, but one correction: Guy can use ninjutsu, too. It's just not his specialty. We see him do ninjutsu a few times, like the summoning jutsu.
I know, I know :P
Naruto can use a wide variety of jutsus?
yeah, "jutsus" as taijutsu, ninjutsu, bukijutsu, etc... he can use rasenshuriken, yeah with 10 or 11 different types of chakra, it's enough to count it as 11 different jutsus
Naruto should. He had Madara scared and Madara confirmed that it wasn't because he's weaker from injuries he sustained (he healed), but because Naruto got stronger.
Naruto's Lava Rasenshuriken cut entire Divine Tree, while Night Gai barely put a dent into it.
"Is it because i havent finished healing? No, his powers suddenly grown" he only says naruto being stronger is a reason and doesnt deny that him being weakened is also a factor in him struggling. If anything it confirms he was weakend from damage cos why else would he ask himself "is it because i havent finished healing yet?"
Lava rasenshuriken made only a cut on weakened madara while night guy blew almost half his body away
Madara not being completely healed has jack shit to do with Naruto not instantly dying to a truth seeking orb lol Literally the reason why he can touch is because of six paths chakra
When did i say naruto was supposed to die from madaras tso?
Because Naruto touching his truth seeker orb is what causes Madara to ask himself if it’s because he wasn’t done healing yet lol
So? I dont understand ur point
Naruto wins at least 6/10 times. The other 4/10 don’t necessarily go to Guy, we just don’t have enough information imo to decide who it can go to. We have no relative speed to reaction feats, all we know is Guy was able to completely blitz Juubidara. We don’t know if base SOSP Naruto could react to that. It’s also important to remember Juubidara himself almost died to Guy, and only survived due to regeneration that Naruto didn’t possess.
It’s important to note speed is the only feat we know of that guy may have on Naruto, we can assume Naruto has strength and his sensory abilities alone could carry him through the fight.
Naruto could simply outlast Guy with shadow clones. Naruto isn't on a timer like guy. Madara took Guy's attacks head on since he had Regen. Naruto won't be risking that
Juubidara himself almost died to Guy
He was clearly not trying his best to survive and was having the time of his life, this is especially evident when you look at what he's doing while Guy is charging toward him with Night Guy, that being literally nothing. He could've put up a TSO shield or just chucked the orbs at Guy and that would've been it
If you relook at that scene you can see he was going to try to until he realized guy was bending space time and he didn’t have the reaction time.
Naruto practically possesses regeneration if he could restore kakashi’s eye and if he didn’t, he wouldn’t have attempted to save obito in the battle against kaguya.
That’s similar to saying Sakura has regeneration because she is a medical ninja. Healing someone else and healing yourself, especially beyond fatal attacks, are vastly different. It’s possible he possessed regeneration akin to Hashirama, or even more advanced, however we don’t quite know the level and It’s assumed Juubidara had just under Kaguya level regeneration
Please bro are you seriously comparing sakura’s healing to that of a literal god😐. By the way sakura and Tsunade were able to heal themselves after they were impaled by madara. Naruto created a functional organ for kakashi out of nothing. I doubt power like that will be limited by such a ridiculous cliche.
They were able to heal themselves because they learned the seal. Medical ninjutsu =/= regeneration. It was a special ninjutsu they practiced.
Similarly, it’s feasible that Naruto learned super advanced form of medical ninjutsu, but his regeneration abilities hardly advanced at all. I don’t think that’s the case but I think the fact alone Sakura was one of the most advanced medical ninjutsu specialists but had no regeneration abilities until she learned the seal shows that your skill in one doesn’t translate to the next, until you’ve learned it.
These “Comparisons” are the basis for everything we know even if one is on an entirely different level. You can have headcanon that he has massive Juubidara class regeneration, however, nothing we’ve seen points it and in fact points what you selected as evidence was not.
This Naruto would have won almost Just as easily as Juubidara.
They both fought the same guy. One rinnegan six paths Madara.
Compare their performances and the answer is clear.
the amount of idiots that think guy stands a chance is insane this version of naruto surpassed that version of madara madara had to absorb the divine tree so naruto wouldn't kill him
*Surpassed madara who was weakened by night guy
I think that’s less of an advantage than being helped by Minato, Lee, gaara and kakashi.
Cos guy didnt have the tso touching hax, it doesnt prove naruto has better stats.
Guy could not even dodge the TSOs lmao Minato had to teleport in to take the hit for him.
That's a nice argument, senator. Why don't you back it up with a source?
There is no sage of the six paths mode base naruto.
This is just sage of the six paths mode.
You mean the person who made madara("Am I getting weaker, no he's just that strong)sweat after he tanked guy's strongest attack
Naruto. 8 gate Gai is strong but he’s overrated the things he did vs Madara was because he had help. In a pure 1v1 he’s not doing any of that
Naruto. The only Shinobi that could contend with Naruto at that point (and did) was Sasuke.
Madara was fking around with Guy, meanwhile when Naruto and Sasuke powered up, Madara spent the rest of the fight reaching up his own anus to dig for more plot devices until Zetsu put an end to it.
I’m seeing arguments that juubi madara was weakened when Naruto got to him. This however, does not change the fact that madara tried to jump him with a clone of himself that had all his powers and was invisible and Naruto STILL dodged it AND fucked madara up with 1 move. Neither does it change the fact that madara immediately absorbed the god tree right after it. You don’t just desperately look for a power up if you’re winning.
Guy on the other hand, had help from gaara, kakashi, lee, and Minato against a madara who did essentially nothing but casually throw tso at guy. If he brought out his limbo clone guy would’ve been washed.
Limbo is the same strength lvl of the real madara meaning the limbo that attacked naruto was also weakened, any damage or power change in the real madara is also reflected in limbo. He absorbed the tree cos it told it to, he didnt even know it was a source of power.
Unless you think madara was weakened to less than half of his original power (which would be bullshit) it doesn’t even matter Naruto was still fighting the equivalent of 2 madaras one of which was invisible.
Hmmmmm I wonder why it chose that exact moment to tell him to absorb it? /s
Half his original power? Do u think fighting 2 equally strong and fast ppl is equivalent to fighting 1 person whos doubly strong and fast?
No actually it’d be harder to fight 2 people rather than one. Especially if one is invisible.
Tenten no diffs both.
S06P Naruto.
As much as I hate to say it, Naruto wins.
Naruto.
Why is this a question did u watch the show?
Naruto
Naruto
Bro.... guy would get completely smacked up like the prison fem boy
Naruto slams lmao
Naruto was trading blows with Madara before even activating his cloak. I’m leaning Naruto
? Naruto guy was struggling to hit madara and had help to land some solid blows on him and madara himself let guy land that final attack on him while Naruto totally out speed madara and damn near killed him before he took in the tree.
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2mo
If Guy is hit with one rasenshuriken he's cooked.
Naruto's truth seeking orbs turn Guy into dust.
Was just reading a thread where someone stated that Guy is faster than this and all later versions of Naruto lmao. This thread is a breath of fresh air
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Guy looks like hanma yujiro here
Naruto slams.
Inoshikacho
The power of Hagoromo empowerment vs YOOOOOOOOUTH.
Even without the time limit gai gets BODIED
atomic bomb vs coughing baby
wtf is so6p
Sage of Six Paths
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Naruto has better durability by a lot
Did this base Naruto cut the god tree in half or was he in the kcm aswell I can’t remember
That was base spsm Naruto.
Thanks
Naruto.
Still think this version of Naruto is his strongest. He held his own vs. Kaguya when Sasuke was sent to another dimension
Naruto would win. Sage mode would help him predict attacks and his body would move on its own.
That being said, he may have lost to Kisame with Samehada
Tsar Bomba Nuke vs A Coughing Baby
Naruto would have to try or die but he would win low diff.
Naruto outlasts. Otsutsuki/Six Paths chakra Naruto can wall with giant Rasenshruiken and fake out Guy with clones until the 8th gate burns him out.
I hate how we can't post images in the comments, i have such a good reaction image for these Guy dickriders
Naruto gets smoked so hard I don't even have time to laugh
It’s not close. I love 8th gates guy, but he’s really kind of the symbol of knocking on the door of Sage of 6 Paths tier. Naruto at this point is giving an even more powerful Madara lots of trouble, and he isn’t going to die just by using his powers.
If it’s any consolation to my fellow Guy fans, he’s still a chad that is easily in the top 10 most powerful character in Naruto
Naruto
Naruto wins like madara(regenerates himself)
Naruto is OP
Naruto is getting out into the afterlife
Guy has a time limit
Ah yes, Soap cloak Naruto will clean the floor with this one
As much as I’m a might guy supremest, if he didint have like 5 people backing him up he’d be dead. And most of that was because of the truth seeker orbs. Witch so6p naruto has like 6 of….
The whole Guy fight was basically Kishi show casing 8th gates however inverse Madara was curious to see what 8th gates could do. When Naruto showed up Madara start using jutsu’s
And everybody wanking Gai tend to forget Gai had help to land a blow on Madara, if Minato didn’t remove TSB he wouldn’t have landed a single blow
Naruto cause guy has a time limit also the 8th gate is basically death lol
Naruto, madara let himself get hit by guy’s strongest attack just to show him that it’s not enough to defeat him, but if madara was serious he could’ve easily killed guy from the start, and Naruto would only need to exhaust guy enough till he dies on his own
Battle take place in the Konohagakure. Both of them are in character. I think Naruto should take this but Might Guy still has a decent chance of winning. Cause might guy did more damage to Madara than Naruto. What you guys think?
Poor Guy. One of the few naruto characters that didn’t cheat to become stronger.
8 Gates Guy had almost killed Juubidara so definitely him
Guy had help, other the orbs would have negged him
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That Lava Rasenshuriken did damaged Juubidara but the damage wasn't as much as Guy's attacks which tore off his left arm and torso. Also, it's likely that Guy's faster too.
Might guy's strongest attack did that,but a casual rasenshuriken from Naruto cut the entire tree that night gai barely damaged.
Regardless of that Naruto outhaxes,outspeeds and overpowers guy.
Guy easily? Lmfao what a stupid question. Naruto was weaker than madara with juni inside. Point proven by the fact that he needed sasukes support to beat him somewhat. Guy toyed with madara like its nothing. Trust me guy would have done quick business with naruto.
I think you have this backwards. It is very clear that during the entire fight Madara was toying with guy and didn't take him seriously. He didn't try to dodge his attacks, he didn't try to seriously counter-attack, not to mention Gai had a lot of help from the others to even get close to Madara.
When Naruto came, Madara instantly became wary of him and didn't risk to underestimate him
Bait or mental retardation
Call it
Guy obliterates
Guy literally can’t win because he will die too. So either Naruto wins or it’s a draw.
guy annihilates very hard.
might guy punched full power madara so strong that he sent him deep inside the earth, his 2nd punch was strong enough to break the guddodama shield and his final attack destroyed madara's staff that was made out of TSO and half of his chest.
base six path naruto couldn't even move an almost dead madara even a single inch with his punch, as well as failing to deal any damage to the remaining part of the TSO staff despite naruto having its weakness ( sage chakra).
and his rasenshuriken only made a small cut on madara's belly that madara didn’t find any difficulty in standing perfectly fine after.
physically speaking guy is massively superior to naruto and all he needs is to land a perfect punch on him and naruto is fucking dead.
Can't tell if you're a troll or just fucking retarded
Why does Naruto have goat eyes?
(I just started Shippuden, be gentle)
Because he is the GOAT.
One of his new forms. You’ll see various eyes on him.
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I have to give it to 8 Gates Guy. After he unlocks the 8th gate of death he's going to be way too fast for Naruto. Even if Naruto is in six path sage Mode that's not going to be enough to withstand Guy ultra speed assault. The only chance Naruto has is his able to draw the fight out long enough until guy dies from the usage of the 8th gate of death but I highly doubt Naruto's going to be able to do that against 8th Gates guys sheer speed and power. In fact I don't think any version of Naruto can beat guy when he's in this state unless it's Baryon mode.
Guy couldn’t even beat Madara without help from three other people. He’s not scratching Naruto without backup
i feel like night guy woukd actually destroy natuto worse than madara, especially with madara confirming guy to be the strongest taijutsu user.
i believe kcm would be required to handle this guy, ignoring overall timelimit. i think the reason why he didnt use limbos wasnt because he didnt think he needed to but because of pride (and he wanted to see the eigth gate)
To be fair here, I think Guy would have a hell of a time trying to not destroy his body while dealing with the dozens, hundreds, or thousands of shadow clones naruto could stall him with.
Guy’s time limit is his enemy here.
Naruto wouldn’t allow guy to hit him, he is more then fast enough to avoided the attacks and has plenty of one shots that would end Guy sooner then later.
im not finna scale speed, i meant if night guy actually HIT
Why’re people wanking Naruto so much? SPSM wasn’t enough, he still needed SO6P and Sasuke’s help to fight Madara, Gai did that alone basically, only taking help against TSBs. Gai literally bent space with his speed, he destroys SPSM Naruto
Bro 💀 madara was getting cooked then needed to absorb the god tree THEN Naruto had to team up with sasuke.
Guy bent space with chakra pressure not speed lmfao.
First of all, Madara was still recovering from Gai’s attacks, the god tree did nothing but restore him to his full health.
Second, Gai did bend space with speed, there’s no such thing as “chakra pressure”, this isn’t Bleach and 8 gates does not release any chakra, it’s a taijutsu technique
The god tree improved his regen and combined with his 2 rinnegan allowed him to get a rinnesharingan tf you mean. Also limbo=madara so it doesn’t matter that madara was weakened he literally tried to jump Naruto with an invisible clone of himself and couldn’t hit him.
Did bro not watch Naruto 💀 tobirama and hashirama both demonstrated chakra pressure against orochimaru and sasuke.
“The Eight Gates exist in order to limit the flow of chakra within an individual's body. Normally, individuals can use no more than 20% of their body's full potential, the brain's way of protecting the individual from harming their body through overexertion. With training, individuals can learn to remove these limiters, referred to as "opening" the gates.” (Narutopedia) So unless you have a scan debunking this the gates are absolutely a massive release of chakra.
God tree improving regen does not matter cause Madara did not need special regen against them, the fact that he could match their combined strength at their peak is easy proof of SPSM not coming even close. And no, limbo is not equal Madara, it’s a clone and dodging limbo is nothing special, those that can see or sense limbo can dodge them.
That wasn’t chakra pressure, Hashirama literally used wood style(see plants peeking out from the floor) and Tobirama was preparing to use ninjutsu.
What do I need to debunk here exactly? You can’t read, that part? Nowhere does the text you provided says anything about it being a release of chakra, unless you’re confusing internal chakra release that removes limits of the body with external chakra release. 8 gates removes the body’s limitations, allowing them to use their peak physical state, which allowed Gai to walk of air, use air cannons, bend space etc. Like, you need to reread the explanation of the gates and Madara vs Gai again at this point.
They weren’t even at their peaks 💀 they got better with their powers in the kaguya fight.
Bro 💀 did you even watch Naruto it’s verbatim stated that limbo clones are just as strong as madaras real body. Dodging a limbo clone requires just as much if not more speed than madara.
Bro 💀💀💀 I’m not even going to debate this part it’s right there just look.
You need to debunk the statement that gates limit the flow of chakra. The opening of said gates would release immense amounts of chakra and therefore allow for chakra pressure. If you think guy uses bare air pressure for his attacks you’re delusional. They’re 100% chakra amped.
Where? Where is it stated in the manga? Show me, go ahead. Also, you people to this day don’t understand how dodging works with sensing lmao.
Mf went and invented a headcanon for his argument smh.
I just can’t, go reread the manga, the manga literally explained gates with pictures, you still didn’t get it
Guy could have cooked madara easily if he didn't have limitations of his body
I know the sub is full of clueless people, this shit is easy to settle.
If guy manages to hit(and he should be able) he wins, both die at least.
In no world Naruto survives a hit from 8 gates no matter how much you wanna suck Naruto off.
If he can lose an arm, he can lose a lot more.
Doesnt matter if Madara played with Guy or not, the impact did such damage that noone would survive it beside Madara who had insane regeneration.
Simple as that.
If no time limit for guy, guy wins.
No 💀
8 gates guy
I don’t get how everyone keeps saying naruto like guy almost killed madara and only didn’t because of the hashirama cells, Naruto’s healing factor is strong but not like that
Night Guy is clearly shown to be dodgeable, Madara just decided to sit there and tank it
Guy. Guy was lowkey blitzing juubidara and madara was visually struggling to block his attacks. Then he got slammed to a pulp by night guy and this heavily weakened madara reacted to narutos punch by blocking it with a tso staff. Ppl ignore that the madara that fought base SPSM naruto was weakened by guys attack so wasnt at his full power. Him saying "no his powers suddenly grown" isnt him denying the fact that he was weakened by guy but adding the fact that naruto becoming stronger is one of the reasons that hes struggling (other reason being weakened)
Guy's literal strongest attack, barely puts a dent into the god tree.
Naruto casually using a new rasenshiruken; cuts the whole thing down. Please use your brain.
Guys literal strongest attack blew almost half of madaras body away .
Narutos rasenshuriken makes only a cut on madara who was already injured by night guy. So dont be telling me to use my brain lil bro 💀
And madara was literally running way from naruto after he powered up. Afraid.
And an equally powerful sasuke spilt madara in half. And made him run away to look to power up
Naruto gets speed blitzed and one shot by night guy
Guy would even beat cloaked Naruto
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Naruto’s got the Power of Youth. Sorry, Guy Sensei.