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She Gets the House, and Then Completely Loses It
STrue. But of course, she had to try screwing me over one more time.
How did she even try it’s not possible lmao
She tells her lawyer to file the paperwork, eventually it’s thrown out. You can sue/file paperwork for almost anything, it doesn’t mean you’ll actually win.
Well I'd like to file a motion that op's ex is a total bitch. All in favor?
Aye
Aye
Seconded
Looks like it passes with a unanimous vote. I'll put it in the minutes.
Burn her on the stake
Yea and when you’re on the other end it’s always scary even when you know how frivolous the claims are. Proved my ex lied in court and the judge just moves on and it’s never addressed or reprimanded. While it’s improved, It’s scary being a guy in family court.
You should be. In Canada it happens. It happened to friend of mine. Ex got the house, kept everything. Years later, ex sued my friend for “delayed alimony”. Their kids are now over the age of 22, ex won the court over to have my friend pay over 100K in charges. We just told my friend to pay and get it over with, literally to “buy” final peace. Ex is the devil himself. Friend is in a much better place now, remarried, beautiful life. Ex poisoned everyone against him. He’ll never see or talk to his children again.
She can certainly try to take him to court, and even if any sane judge would look at it and throw it out, he might still have to actually go to court over it, and even if it were unlikely, it's not a bad idea to plan for it.
The thing about civil suites, is that you don't have to have any case at all to submit the paperwork, and the other side is forced to respond. You can waste a lot of somebody's time and money by filing BS suits that will get thrown out as soon as they actually get to court, and actually sticking with them until they make it to court for a judge to actually throw it out. Even if you have zero chance of winning, you can force them to waste money on a lawyer and time getting their case in order, and some people are self entitled enough to do so, not because they desire to waste your money, but because they just keep searching for lawyers untill they find one who will take the case, even if 20 other lawyers told them they had no case and they weren't going to waste their time on it.
Even if she has no case, she can waste his time and money through sheer willpower and self delusion.
People do not get it. I can sue for anything. If it gets to court you may have to hire a lawyer to get it tossed. If my only goal was to fuck with your life then I just won and you lost. Laws against frivolous lawsuits should always include a minimum of 30 days in jail.
And a fine paid to the other party.
Not sure about the US but here in the UK it would be depressingly possible. Financial ties between couples are not automatically severed during a divorce and you need the court to specifically issue the decree, which they happily do but not by default. Many people don't realise this and it can come back to bite them in the ass years later.
One guy got taken to court by his ex wife for wealth he had gained from a company he started years after their divorce. She got some money but I think most of it ended up just going on her legal team. Another women got a hefty divorce settlement from her wealthy husband but took him back to court over a decade later when she had burned through it. In that case I believe she got some more money initially, but it was later overturned.
Do a funny and sue the court for failing to divorce you properly and make them liable for financial damages.
(Probably won’t work, but the mental image is funny)
Generally speaking in the US Spousal support & Alimony are set at the final disposition of a divorce. If set at $0 they generally can't be adjusted, short of fraud in your divorce declarations (like say you claimed poverty and had a $50mil hidden account), if set at $1 you can file for adjustment later and ask the court to reevaluate the situation.
This all can vary state to state.
Reason 1: This is a creative writing exercise
Reason 2: If it's the USA you can probably try. Doesn't mean it'll work or anything.
Possible doesn’t matter in creative writing assignments.
How did she even try it’s not possible lmao
my dude, if someone wants to fuck with you, they just need to file bullshiat court cases. Just fighting them costs you time and money.
Just because the attempt will inevitably fail rarely discouraged the desperate from trying. Sometimes repeatedly.
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or you forgot to get your own story straight. nice try though.
Because even though it's bogus you still have to make an appearance in "court" wasting time and being active means his appearance is immediately negated as the DOJ would have to send someone to represent him in civil court
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I’m not going to comment on the post’s overall believability, but if I’ve learned anything from talking to people I know are lawyers, it’s that some courts really do let you file any fuckin’ thing as long as it’s not written in crayon or something.
Very true. Lawyers only care about billable hours. They will file any piece of shit motion a client can think up if it keeps them on the clock.
It's actually not that hard at all to find a lawyer who will help you file a case you have no chance of winning, as long as you sign the contract agreeing to pay them.
Lawyers can be sectioned personally for that. Those lawyers filing the election fraud cases all got stuck.
*sanctioned
I love how the US army protected you from domestic threat
My ex and I couldn't get divorced while I was in Korea even though we wanted to because of that Act. Then when I did get sent home to Texas, I was immediately mobilized for Saudi for Desert Storm, so there went another six months.
The marriage lasted a few weeks. Legally, we were married almost two years.
So biker jedi, how does one enter into a few week marriage?
We married on mid tour leave and she was cheating within the month.
I’m betting soju was involved. Soju will make anyone do the absolute dumbest shit on Earth.
Hopefully you never need this info again, but Texas actually allows military stained it deployed overseas to have a representative stand in for them at most legal proceedings. I had a lawyer be my proxy for my divorce while I was stationed in Germany.
If she sent you the paperwork, you signed it and sent it back, you should still have been able to get a divorce. As far as I am aware, the act only prevents you from being sued while on active duty.
Unless it was a one sided divorce that you didn’t want.
Nope. We asked and tried.
A terwhoreist
Love this!
Elmer Fudd was trying to warn us all along.
that's the money shot right there :)
awards incoming
"The US army is here to protect you!"
Makes it protect them domestically
"Not like that!"
'I WILL GUARD AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC'
Venomously side-eyes ex
In Soviet Russia, army fight for you...
No wait, hang on...
If he cheats with you, he'll cheat on you.
Shrug FAFO, marriage edition. Story as old as time.
Hope you're doing well man.
Couldn't be better! Enjoying retirement with my wife of 30+ years.
I could use a good cheating
Anyone got an abbreviation dictionary on him, because fuck me if I know what FAFO means.
Fuck Around and Find Out
If you have some kind of internet access, you could google "define fafo".
If you don't have internet access, you should look into getting some. The internet is a great source of useful information and porn.
"The internet is really really great..."
- Katie Monster, 2007
“For porn!”
Trekkie Monster, 2007
I get that people say this but I honestly don't believe this.
It is not my responsibility to make sure others don't cheat. When I was single it probably would not have stopped me hooking up with someone who was taken. Now I'm happily married and would never cheat, nor have I ever cheated in my life. It digusts me to the core how someone can treat someone they love that way.
But it's not my responsibility to stop others I don't know from cheating.
I mean, if he/she cheats with you, he/she will cheat on you.
You don't cheat if you're single. But they might cheat on you in the future.
If someone is cheating on their spouse, they don’t love them anymore.
How many more witty one-liners you got in there?
When a cheater promotes a mistress, they leave a job opening.
Was excited till I read the last part. WHERES THE RHYMEE
Not sure where the Soldier and Sailors act applies since she would have relinquished her opportunity for alimony when she accepted the house in lieu of alimony. I suspect your lawyer through that in to dissuade her attorney from putting too much of a fight for someone who didn't have any cash to pay their fees to appeal.
That's right, he did exactly that. He threw that in to "dissuade her attorney from putting too much of a fight".
Great example of spending a little more for a competent attorney instead of going cheap. Smart move. Gotta bring a cannon when your in for a knife fight...and divorce is a knife fight!
I assume it's less that the Act would have needed to be applied (eventually) in this case in order for OP to win, and more that due to circumstances, it was able to be used for an insta-win, instead of a long, drawn-out, potentially expensive win.
(And, of course, also that it reads like OP anticipated things going as they did and joined the military specifically for that additional bonus. Although that's not entirely clear - the military sign-up might have been entirely coincidental, just with added benefit.)
Actually, I visited the recruiter right after my first visit to the unemployment office (right after the first divorce hearing), when I realized I was not going to make enough to support myself. "Type something up," I said. "If I like what I see, I will sign." Soon after that, it all came together for me.
Buy the house back from the bank.
For me, there was too much "Emotional Baggage" associated with that property. Besides, I separated from the military on the opposite coast and bought a nicer house there.
The best revenge is living well. Good on you!👏👏👏
Living your life the best way.
Oh nice. Also thank you for your service.
Did you even have much equity in the house anyway? It sounds like you lost a down payment amount. If alimony was applicable, she was silly to go for the property that was likely mostly owned by the bank.
Then invite her over to watch it burn...
For the record, there's actually a potential tort case against your ex's new squeeze: alienation of affections and interference with your employment. This is funnier though.
Meh. Not worth the effort and cost at the time. Besides, she's miserable now, and I bet she makes her dear hubby's home-life less-than-enjoyable too. The password is "Karma".
Yeah, and the statute of limitations is probably long past anyway. It was just a thought.
No worries. I appreciate the effort.
Oh man, I read that (The password is karma) in the same whisper from the game show!!!!!
That's the idea! I'm glad you caught it!
Only a handful of states have that, so it depends on where.
Can confirm. Almost 20 years ago, I talked with attorneys in the state in which I lived at the time because my then-wife was cheating on me with her therapist at the psychiatric hospital she was in. I was able to get him fired, but couldn't collect for tort.
You still got a good result, new psychiatrist at the hospital who is possibly much better for the patients, an ex wife who got nothing because of her cheating, and the cheater having a black mark on the record.
You're kind! :)
As far as I know she married the guy. But it doesn't matter ... my life is exponentially better. The ex is a past life that doesn't mean anything.
Married him great, now he is getting it 24/7, and knows she is a cheater as well, so will never really trust her at all. You could even drop a complaint in to the local medical board about this conflict of interest, make him sweat a bit for little effort on your part.
Cue. The word you want is cue.
Queue = line
Que = Spanish for what
I love how they edited and complained about “self appointed authorities on English ” As if cue isn’t literally the correct spelling of the word, which they could discover by referring to an authority such as a dictionary
Some show-offs just go around "knowing things", acting as if their knowledge is somehow better than other people's ignorance. Rude! /s
The fact that OP got this butthurt about someone explaining that he used a word incorrectly sheds some light onto why his ex wasn't happy.
Que = Spanish for what
i don't know, you tell me!
i don't know
THIRD BASE!
Who?
Naturally.
¿?
This sounds less like malicious compliance and more simply letting your ex fuck up.
I followed the court orders, and gave her what she wanted. It was solely HER f***-up.
I get you. But if she wasn't going to pay the debt on the house, she was already up shits creek.
Similar to a mate of mine, though not military, she earned way more and was getting it on at work with an employee, he did the no quit, her company found out (mind you also a niche industry), she and her bonkmate were both fired, lost the house because work was hard to find and had to move state, mate managed to snag the house in a mortgagee auction, with a loan from the same bank.
My BIL is Active Duty Army and when he and his wife divorced, he had to pay her alimony. They were married over 10 years and that is the magic number of years the spouse has to have been married to the Military Member.
I divorced my husband after 18 years of marriage. Alimony granted until I remarried. He was Active Duty Navy. When he retired, I was paid out of his retirement.
All my lawyer (a divorced military veteran himself) had to do was cite the "Service Member's Relief Act", recite its contents, and convince the judge that it applied in my case. Her lawyer (a non-veteran "Family" lawyer), not knowing much about military-related legalities, conceded the point in court. Had her lawyer pressed the point instead, she may have won at least a token award. As it was, her previous agreement to accept the house in lieu of alimony (remember the "Quit-Claim"?) pretty much ruined her case from the start. She ended up looking exactly like the vindictive, money-grubbing, gold-digger that she is.
I would not be so sure of that. Granted, her getting the house would look bad if she was also going for alimony. BUT I know for a fact just because you are Active Duty Military, you are not shielded from alimony. I am also a U.S. Navy Veteran.
Heh. You can't argue against the results -- I had a good lawyer! Sometimes justice is served. This time, it was served with a hot, steaming side order of karma!
I don't get alimony. It's not a thing where I live. How do they decide who pays to whom? Is it based on the relative income of the people involved?
It comes from the days when women would stop working the day they got married or pregnant. As she left her career, this money was to make up for her lost earnings potential, and keep her in the lifestyle to which she had become accustomed. It has changed over the years, so men who did the same thing are also eligible for alimony. Alimony is in addition to any child support (which wasn't relevant in this case). But yes, the higher earning spouse is more likely to have to pay the lower earning spouse. It's supposed to be a bridge while the spouse receiving alimony rebuilds their career. All this is from a person who was never divorced, but a divorced person is likely to have different views on fairness and how things work in practice.
What BS marital law is….
How so? I just made this comment:
Spouse A: highly paid lawyer. Spouse B: Worked while A went through law school, then changed to a part time job to enable A to work all those billable hours.
A then runs off with the secretary...
Both have jobs, alimony is thoroughly deserved.
If Spouse 1 has supported Spouse 2 throughout their marriage, such that Spouse 2 has never had to support themselves ... the court will hold that Spouse 1 should continue to support Spouse 2 even though the marriage dissolves. For a while, at least.
And usually, it's the stay-at-home-mom, who stayed at home to raise the offspring / clean the house / prepare the master's meals, and is now separated from her support, has none, no job, no current skills, and no assets.
How do they decide who pays to whom?
The one who supported the family, continues to do so.
If both parents worked does that mean no alimony is needed?
Sometimes, yes.
And with increasing frequency, alimony ("spousal support") is being replaced with child support payments. The ex is pretty much out on her own in some cases.
Good for you brother, cheaters deserves each other. I love a good revenge story.
Sometimes I wonder how they think. If he/she is willing to cheats to be with you, what makes you think they won't cheats with someone else? Like they'll just magically stop because you're special? I swear they're literally some of the dumpiest people I've seen.
Me Ex-wife was awarded half my retirement for the period we were married. But that wasn't enough for her, so she lied on the paperwork that was sent to Xerox to find out how much she was entitled to, changed the dates to include about 5 yrs that we were living together. So when we received a copy of the paperwork she filed, we alerted the court to what she had done. The Judge was not happy, he ruled that since she tried to commit fraud, she wouldn't get any of my retirement. She got the house, but couldn't afford it, she defaulted. The Bank tried to come after me, but the house hers, by Divorce decree. So sad.
Sad, like the loss of a friend; or sad like receiving a pardon from death row?
At the final divorce hearing, I told her she wouldn't be able to afford the house, she held up her Bible and said God would provide.
Excellent.
❤️ Love it! Serves her right!
The only thing better would be if you had been able to buy the house from the bank after they foreclosed! lol!
Karma hit her square in the eyes and stung. As some would say on your part, Flawless victory.
There's no malicious compliance here.
I complied with her wishes and the court orders to the letter. The rest was all HER doing.
None of which was caused by you. It's not malicious compliance if you're compliance didn't do anything. It's just compliance.
EDIT: And then he blocked me. Some people just can't take being told they're wrong about something.
Malicious compliance is the behavior of strictly following the orders of a superior despite knowing that compliance with the orders will have an unintended or negative result. It usually implies following an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent, but follows it to the letter. The "Superior" in this case was Ms. Alwaysright who, along with her attorney, submitted the first draft of the divorce decree, to which the judge made almost no changes. Thus, when I followed the Decree AS WRITTEN, knowing already the likely outcome, I was committing an act of Malicious Compliance.
Now, if you still think you have a case, then PLEASE submit your opinion to the moderators. Go ahead. I INSIST.
I'm happy for you and stuff but you giving people attitude for correcting you about the "que" thing & then this kind of show that you have kind of a nasty side & seem to have a lot of trouble laughing at yourself or admitting the most minor faults, which in truth would be endearing to most people if you showed a little bit of humility.
You can also be making all of this crap up which would explain why you respond so angrily to people pointing out minor flaws in your story.
Oof. This whole thing just makes me sad. I'm glad you got away OP, but her story gives me that "pit in my stomach" feeling.
Much like the pit in my stomach I felt when I found out I was being cuckolded?
I doubt that bad at all. I really am sorry for what you went through.
No worries. I appreciate the sentiment.
Living your best life is your best revenge. I'm glad it all worked out for you in the end.
For those who aren't familiar with US quitclaims: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/q/quitclaimdeed.asp
Note that (for those wondering), by itself it does not necessarily have any legal effect on mortgages held or property-related liabilities. In the case where a quitclaim is used on a property, it's recommended that separate paperwork be signed saying the grantee (the person or persons taking over ownership of the property) is/are now wholly liable for the mortgage and any property-related debts, liabilities, etc. I don't know enough about OP's particular situation, but it's possible that the settlement included such a clause, and it may even have gone completely unremarked-on at the time if it was a fairly standard part of such settlements.
I don't know what she did, but it resulted in only her name showing up on the bank's foreclosure letter (a copy of which was forwarded to me by my lawyer)..
You were called out a bunch of times for the holes in your story like when asked why the bank would let you off the mortgage when they never do that. You just said "Why question success?"
Umm because parts of your story make no sense, like the judge being unaware of how the Service Member Act works, and that him and her attorney accepted what your attorney said. That's idiotic, even if somehow the judge didn't know how that law worked, he would easily just go look it up, not just believe your attorney.
A quitclaim deed doesn't get you off the mortgage. A mortgage loan is a contractual agreement between you and the lender. You cannot abrogare it unilaterslly. However, in most cases involving a residential loan,, if there is a default the lender will exercise it's right to foreclose and will nor pursue any other redy.
Que?
He obviously meant ¿Qué?
You have dated yourself a little bit. It hasn't been SSCRA for over 15 years. Just SCRA (Servicemember's Civil Relief Act)
No worries here! The events in the OP occurred while the Internet was still the Arpanet.
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I filed a copy of the first draft of the divorce decree (along with the Quit Claim) to the bank, her lawyer, my lawyer, the judge, and the "Friend of The Court". Ms. Alwaysright demanded it, I complied, and the rest is history.
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He just keeps saying how it was successful for him when people calling out his bs lol. His post is wrong legally on so many levels and he just doubles down.
They might have made her refinance it. If so, then he’s off the hook.
If you are on the mortgage and she does not refinance to get you off. The quit claim can certainly screw you over. Only if you are lucky or everything is done correctly are you not screwed over in this scenario.
I call BS on this. I was in the military for 24 years. I know lots of guys who have to pay alimony. The SCRA, enacted in 2003 to replace the 1940 Act, does not prevent alimony judgements.
It doesn't matter. My lawyer was able to convince the judge and her lawyer that it does. She lost her case, and I never heard her mention the word 'alimony' to me again.
Call BS as well. Quit claim doesn't release your obligations with the bank.
I'm going through this with an ex now too (amicable fortunately) but still we've gone through three lawyers trying to find a solution to releasing me from the mortgage to no avail.
She FAFO.
Good shit
It's terrible how you can go from being deeply in love with someone to being happy for their desperation. Not judging, I understand how it went, just sad it happens...
Yes, it is. Fortunately for me, all those feelings -- both good and bad -- have turned to so much dust and ash.
Yes, whatever happens in life, move on and try to be happy.
I like it when Judith get it.
A "Two And A Half Men" reference?
I just call the divorce black widows Judiths. Yes, it's based on that. Judith just wants a divorce after cheating on you.... and your house...and your kid... and your money....
Quit claim does not remove your responsibility to pay for the a mortgage you signed unless she refinanced the loan and removed you from it.
As I have already stated, I do not know what kinds of "handshaking" went on behind the scenes. What I DO know is that only her name was on the foreclosure letter (a copy of which was forwarded to me by my lawyer).
Justice prevails and one less crazy bitch around you. Happy for you bro!
You can still get alimony if your spouse is active duty. The SCRA just says alimony and child support cannot add to more than 60% of your base pay
The only thing that could make this story better is if you’d bought the house back at auction.
To hell with the filthy swine
She cannot get alimony because the Soldiers' and Sailors' Civil Relief Act of 1940 prohibits this while I am on active duty.
No it doesn't.
Choices, meet path.
A quit claim does not relieve you from a mortgage debt
Should I pay for her OnlyFans?
Love it😍. She got what she deserved😂. Kudos to you for the excellent revenge.
Great story if there aren’t children involved
So you didn’t actually do anything but gift her a house. Great job. Super malicious. So proud of you.
Hey, she got what she wanted. She SHOULD have been happy.
That’s a good story
Well played, Sir. The chess grand master
Why do I love this story so much? Gold diggere and cheating hoes are so disgusting to me
Hats off to you sir, excellent form. Thanks for your service (you have gone above and beyond)
Guten morgen , Satan lol
How old were you when you joined the military?
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A Quit Claim deed may convey ownership to your Ex, but you were still on the mortgage. When she defaulted on the mortgage, it had a negative impact on your credit. You should have sold the house and split the equity.
Quitclaim deed would not prevent a mortgagee from having a claim against you unless she took out a new mortgage and satisfied the old mortgage. Or if there was no old mortgage.
Keep screwing with her and reminder her 🤣
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If the divorce agreement gave her the house in lieu of alimony then she shouldn't be able to get such regardless of your military status.