![Thought that some of you might like this. Idk.](https://preview.redd.it/qvgpb117xq9d1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=fc69a132b30a5c39c27ccf719aada5dd85f45bcc)
Oh and before anyone says anything, yes the artist is a Nazi. But a broken clock is right twice a day.
Oh and before anyone says anything, yes the artist is a Nazi. But a broken clock is right twice a day.
HELP THERE'S BEEN A MURDER AND IT WASN'T KARLOV MANOR
You can literally smell that sub
Don't know, Yu-Gi-Oh fans which I classify as anime fans, are historically worse in every possible way.
Magic has multiple mangas so that’s like the pot calling the kettle black
I play both and they are equally bad. There’s honestly a bunch of overlap anyway.
They might smell but in my experience they’re usually pretty cool people at least
i'm more surprised that i was surprised when i discovered that sub. this is absolutely a first world problem, but i can't remember the last time i pulled back the "free speech" curtain and it was anything but hatred. i just couldn't imagine living like that
r/Stonetossingjuice material
I thought I was there for a moment when I saw this post
Stonetoss = opinion discarded
Based
Oh hey, it's freemagic. Meanwhile WoTC literally making products for both sides.
Go where the paycheck takes you
I'm a trans anime nerd, I broke conformity, also fuck Stonetoss and his fasciest alt right friends
I read that as "I also fuck stonetoss" and was like, dang well guess that's settled
That's hilarious, I have no notes
Lmao I did too
Lol no one fucks stonetoss thats why he is the way he is.
Might sound dumb here, but who is that?
Also as a Trans person, anyone with alt right beliefs needs to either change and grow as a person, or fuck off
You don't sound dumb, to be frank I'm jealous as fuck, i wish I didn't know who he is, he makes nazi supporting comics and has several anti-semetic conspiracies.
He is also friends with Spencer, the guy who did a nazi salute at a Trump rally and never got condemned by Trump for it...or MTG (go fucking figure)
Not everything you don't agree with is fascist
my guy he openly supports the Nazis, it's hard to get more fascist than that...
The man is an active neonazi
Hans Kristian Graebner is a fascist
While true, Mr. PebbleThrow is absolutely a fascist who openly supports Nazis and actively denies the holocaust.
True, but fascists are fascist
He's an open nazi, what the hell are you talking about?
You’re right!
Openly fascist little pricks like Stonetoss, however…
I fucking wish that was the only reason to call him so, buddy 😭
This one actually is lol.
What is it like to have no opinions of your own outside of contrarianism?
This comic makes no fucking sense
The artist is a fascist
Right, and that sucks on its own. OP’s edits also make the comic completely incoherent
edit: I am curious what the original comic said, but not curious enough to give traffic or ad revenue to that persons websitw
Probably some transphobic bs mixed with shaming people for enjoying things based on their fascist opinions... you are correct not to give them any attention
Are you guys ragebaiting? It depicts two socially outcast types of people, and the greasy transphobic weeb is clearly the villain. I fail to see how this is transphobic in any shape or form. It is just making fun of /r/freemagic types for gatekeeping something as dorky as magic the gathering.
Edit: Oh, the original artist is a fascist I understand the hesitation
Yeah, and considering only the text is edited, it probably wasn't good to either
Fascism is quite the buzzword these days. Did you know Mussolini was vetoed by the ground council of fascism constantly and didn’t have totalitarian power?
OP is from freemagic and so presumably hates LGBTQ people.
Ahhhh ya. Unfortunate for all involved
Agreed
Why not? As long as nobody shits on another (for being a person not their magical abilities, I feel it's fair to DUNK on someone if they've been playing long enough to know what is going on) it should be fine-
They kinda do shit on each other a lot tho. As seen in talk surrounding old vs new artwork of Kemba.
Tig ol biddies are still there, covered by armor
I’d complain, but they’re still all-in on male fan service, and I’m like 70-30 male/female pref, so I can live without Kemba’s titties as long as I get more of Ajani’s.
Altho they missed an opportunity to have the alternate art be a catgirl
The funny thing to me is I don’t get why they are avoiding female skin below the neck on cards these days. Like are they trying to take the high road here? Because they still shamelessly use sex to promote their product. A week or two ago if you opened arena the first thing you saw was some chick with her cleavage hanging out for a link to her YouTube video or something. Half the videos I see promoted in their YouTube channel are hotties of a caliber I’ve never seen in my LGS. Their official story podcast is read by ladies with simpering valley girl accents. I mean I’m ok with that but I feel like they should own up to the fact that their promoters are shamelessly not representative of the magic community and not pretend like they are taking the high road by avoiding any suggestive women on the cards. Just pick a lane guys, any lane will do.
The difference is the promoted women are choosing themselves to dress that way, where an artwork could be implied that someone just wants to use sexy imagery to sell/"appealing to the male fantasy".
At least that's how I'm trying to rationalize it, pbly more of a "we want to promote women" paired with women on the internet using their looks often to sell, while the image they want to promote in game isn't sexualised
No weirdos who fixated on fictional tits are shitting on each other...
Okay weirdo
You are on discord and Twitter too much. Nobody gives a shit at the lgs
I'm more of a telegram 4chan type.
Same thing, all full of racists and morons
as long as i get to shit on grixis players im happy sharing the hobby with half of anybody
Conclave scum
fuck you leave me to my gruul business. grixis players are smelly poopie heads
Removal+counterspelled+hand disruption+destroy all lands
Right... smelly poopie heads who won't let me get out my big stompy bois😋
[[Cavern of Souls]]
[[stone rain]]
…you haven’t played much against tuned Gruul, have you?
What do you mean?
Ahh the poster is a freemagic poster. The stone toss makes sense now.
And no, they aren't right in this case at all, plenty of space in this hobby for Trans people.
Why are we reposting this scumbags art?
Probably because of reads it sincerely
Oof. r/freemagic and r/horusgalaxy? Fucking yikes. The Ezekarion does not claim OP.
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No. Anti trans bullshit doesn’t deserve a home anywhere.
I actually often talk about my waifu Alesha.
Lmao take my upvote.
So it's either gay or anime fan?
That's the trans flag, and there are bystanders. So you could be one of the people not involved in the conflict too
What's it about? Kinda confused, I play MTG because its an interesting game with unique interactions
There's conflict in the community rn. It can't really be helped, anything with a large following is going to have bigots who want to shit on minorities. If you want to stay out of it and play with the fun cards go ahead, have fun.
So there's a small group of alt right goofballs who formed a community and they are vocal about hating things in way that dogwhistles alt right points. One of their things is not liking trans people Edit to add: anime fan with body pillow is slowly moving from being coded as "awkward nerd who can't talk to girls" towards "I hate women and minorities because they're happy". That's a whole other discussion involving what some refer to as the alt right pipeline
It's kind of really funny how far and close things have come to full circle: we have the far right people yelling at people for being snowflakes and being soft and nerdy to suddenly they need protection from their anime body pillows and uwu dolls Bec they are feeling encroached upon by people with differences in opinions. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's becoming less socially acceptable to abuse people over their facking prohnowns and more acceptable to abuse hateful scumbags, so now they feel persecuted. Poor things.
tag urself i'm tumbleweed
Thought I was in freemagic for a minute.
Good thing nazi’s aren’t broken clocks then.
Saying they’re right even once, is once too much.
Saying that any person is never right on anything is peak zealot level crazy.
Well considering Stone toss is a Nazi He isn't right about anything. ever
Did you know Hitler supported animal rights?
Did you know that it really doesn't matter if he supported animal rights or not? It wouldn't matter if he had been saving starving children in Africa. He was not a complicated man. He was evil.
Like whoopity Doo he liked dogs. Chairman Mao liked cats, Vlad the impaler liked his kids I guess. Rasputin was a ladies man and threw a really good party. Just because a person has a single positive trait does not make them good
Edit to add that holy moly being on Horus Galaxy and free magic at the same time you probably do. Actually think Hitler was a good guy really
But specic, hitler was a nazi, and nAzI's ArE nEvEr RiGhT aBoUt AnYtHiNg.
BTW that's how you sound.
You do realize that you're defending fucking Hitler just to have some sort of cheap gotcha?
You do realize even the most zealot Christian won't condemn a devil's advocate? Are you really about to be more of a zealot than them?
You. Are. Defending. Adolf. Fucking. Hitler. To use as an Internet gotcha.
Also me the zealot? Bruh you're on free magic and Horus Galaxy prolly 2 of the most zealoutous and insane subs in this hell site
I see. Well I hope you have a good day. I'll be ending this pointless convo here.
To The surprise of no one, the Stonetoss reposter is a Nazi.
I'm literally not.
you literally are
Dude we've been over this. Do you remember the time I tagged you in a discussion about good woke shows?
no
Want me to tag you in it again?
Did you know you're defending hitler right now?
You do know only zealots say someone is wrong in every aspect, right?
I never said that, only pointing out who you're defending. People can be right in aspects that don't matter, like you right now. It doesn't matter if Hitler owned an orphanange, he was directly responsible for the deaths of six million people. Do you see how one of those things makes the other insignificant?
Dude, I'm defending the fact Hitler is right on treating animals well. You by pointing that out like it's a negative is proving my point.
i think you're focusing on this particular point in a vacuum and they're looking at the bigger picture of the person
Yes exactly. A clock is right twice a day.
What you're trying to do is defend posting this by saying that the point of the comic is correct even though the person is a bigot. But that argument falls apart because the comic is a misrepresentation of the situation. Two parts of the community are not trying to push each other out. One part of the community hates the other so much that they literally will not allow them to participate, and will flame them just for existing. In this sense, the comic is not a correct statement that just so happens to come from a bigot. It is a misrepresentation meant to paint bigots in a better light by trying to make it seem like both parties are equally to blame. And I think that misudnderstanding/misrepresentation is BECAUSE of who the artist is.
Regardless I'm good on continuing this. You called me a zealot before, but I haven't seen you agree with anyone but yourself in any of your comments. Which means that the chance of me changing your mind are zero. Later!
I don't know what to tell you, it really looks like both hate each other mate. Both sides have their fair share of zealots.
Have a good day.
You're correct. Also, never admitting where you're wrong is zealot level crazy.
I agree. I'm glad there's comments I've made where I admitted I was wrong.
Man I guess it's wrong to be against animal cruelty and testing on animals, who knew
Begone, back to r/freemagic with you.
Okay. Sorry for bothering you. I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. <3
Honey, I was joking don't take it too serious, unless you support stonetoss, fuck that guy.
Aww thx. Kiss
If you know the creator of the comic strip is a Nazi, why repost it? The last thing we need as a community is to support that asshole
It's an altered picture. He didn't have it about MTG.
My point still stands. Why use this person's work if you know they're a literal Nazi?
Because I like the meme format.
I don't get it. Explain the joke.
I'll explain it because u/Affectionate-Rub5176 is a coward who wants to just provoke and then not take responsibility for making this sub shittier.
We have two groups of people who, according to the both original artist (literal neo nazi "stonetoss") and the person who modified the comic for this meme, are worthy of derision in and of themselves: trans people and anime nerds.
In order to "get" the joke, you have to feel that WotC trying to appeal to a wider audience (with nonbinary and trans characters, and anime art card treatments) is reprehensible, mockable, and something worth throwing a tantrum over and posting about daily on /r/freemagic. And that there's somehow...some conflict between having both of those groups in the fandom and playerbase? It doesn't make sense, because obviously trans people and anime nerds have been playing MtG since the 90s.
But critically, to find this funny, you have to be the kind of person for whom "lol transgenders, amirite?" is like...a hilarious joke, on its own.
"You know...morons"
Slight added note: There was some conflict a while back which roughly was because a prominent player came out as trans and got some harassment for it by a small group, which then turned to the group getting banned from the event.
They’re against the religion known as “woke” Or some other dumbass bullshit. It means they are too much of a coward to do so
I rather not.
Don’t want to get banned?
No. I think it's a waste of time. I can't change your mind and I doubt you can change mine.
If this comic is supposed to be a joke then why are you trying to change anyone’s mind? Just explain the shitty joke and then fuck off
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm trying to show a funny meme that certain people would understand and find funny.
Yeah, that's called a dogwhistle.
No, an inside joke.
Yeah, a dogwhistling inside joke.
There's nothing I can say that can change your mind is there?
"Hey man, I'm just making an inside joke to a very small group of like-minded individuals, using a comic template mare by an infamous Nazi sympathizer"
637 people isn't a small group.
Isn't this kind of a shitpost ? Saying magic players are either LGBT or some greasy anime fanboi
Not a shitpost, just shitty post. For stonetoss, the artist of this comic (and literal neo nazi), a person being transgender is a punchline in itself. There's nothing good here.
It's a shitpost trying to rally other right wing magic players, that's pretty much it.
I don’t think the point is that they’re the only kind of magic players I think the joke is that they’re the two opposites in the community that claim it to be a space that caters to them specifically or at least want it to.
Still promoting the website of a fascist.
But cool to see that people think it's something true enough to meme about. And by that, I mean sad. I just wish the community could get along
OP I think you forgot to take your schizophrenia medication, its important to take every night
Why do you think I'm a schizo?
Hey look, it's art by Hans Christian Graebener, noted Nazi who lives in Spring, TX.
This artist sucks unwashed incel dick. The first dialogue bubble should have been "this hobby ain't big enough for the both of us" the last panel should show the two of them standing outside an lgs with saloon swinging doors and a neon MTG sign in the window. That way the sequence builds tension until you learn in the last panel what they're fighting over and uses the art to convey information, ya know, like an artist, instead of a character randomly saying "magic the gathering". You suck at basic sequential art, bruv.
Happy Cake Day!
Me who like both 👀
Fucking what
Fuck Stonetoss, fuck freemagic, and fuck you. Support trans rights
But I do support trans people. I believe they should have the same rights as everyone else.
“Yes the artist is a Nazi. But…” never goes anywhere good.
Oh so THIS was the plot of OTJ all along. I get it now.
Just make Anime Phyrexian’s, problem solved.
pebblechucker is a dipshit, thus whatever this is trying to say is invalidated.
Miss me with that gay shit.
We wouldn’t ❤️ hope it helps for next one so you can pick something actually funny bro
I don't think there will be a next time. Multiple people have asked me to to come here again.
unrealistic smh, cant smell lack of deordorant through the screen from the seconed panel.
Stonetoss is a literal nazi.
Yes it says as much in OP.
I mean…yeah. The culture of those two are so openly hostile to the others’ existence that it’s very difficult, if not impossible, for them to co-exist.
It's not realistic
Unfortunately, one of these smells a lot better and doesn't actively antagonize people for gameplay actions
Maybe there would be if we had consistent and well written storylines, and Hasbro stopped humping the IP for every penny.
Agreed. Corpos are the biggest problem.
No, fuck anything stonetoss.
Screw stone toss. All my homies hate his sexist, racist, turbo terf and literal not even joking active neo Nazi ass.
Ew stonetoss
The common thing to do when repurposing this Nazi piece of shit’s comics is to change the site address to inform the viewer the original artist is a Nazi piece of shit.
Just a pointer for future use of his shit art
Is too much to ask they shoot each other?
Based
I don't even play magic and I understand and love this. I'm so entrenched in loser-dom that I care about the drama of fandoms I'm not in
R/imaginarygatekeeping. Nobody is pushing straight and cis white dudes out of gaming.
You're right, they're pushing women with big breasts out by refusing to represent them.
We on the other hand get a lot of hot representation.
What's wild about this.. is that if you watched the pro tour. There's a whole ass team of trans and trans allies who put up top 32 level performances Jason Ye made like 11th place
Last season Ettienne was in the top 8
"The artist is a Nazi" then I'm sure you find him good company. Go back to r/freemagic.
ThE ArTiSt Is A NaZI!
If you know this was made by a Nazi, why are you sharing it?
Also, is it just me, or do you hate both people here?
Both sides have done wrong, yes. One side is just less wrong on average. I'm not going to say who tho.
All of this is beta boy shit 🤣
Fuck stone toss, all my kindred hate stonetoss
You do not have to in fact hand it to the Nazi artist 🤷🏻♂️
Perhaps I was too hard on you, weebs.
Well if you're gonna make me choose... the trans community has literally never bothered me and you're (that is you on the right I assume, with the pillow?) here posting your hateful trash. Nobody's bothering you by existing, you're just evil, sorry to break it to you.
Come again. Can you explain why I'm evil?
Yeah man, I'll walk you through it real quick: so this comic is highlighting the issue in a strange light, as one of these groups just wants to exist and be represented, and the other group quite literally hates trans people so much that they cannot handle the idea of a trans person in the media they enjoy. If you hate a specific kind of person who has caused you no harm SO MUCH that you don't even wanna be reminded they exist, I consider that evil, maybe that's just me.
Your "broken clock" idea is technically correct, but most people upon finding out that the creator of the comic is a nazi would simply choose to not post it, so as to not support the creative endeavors of someone with a racist, fascist ideology. Can you enjoy art and agree with ideas of a person like that? Sure. But bringing it to us, here, while plainly stating that you know this about the artist really just seems like a mixture of classic trolling and a cat bringing its owner a dead rat that they really don't want.
At best you didn't know your audience and at worst you're trolling and supporting bigotry. Messing with people intentionally while spreading media that misrepresents a real, serious issue is maybe a bit dramatic to go as far as evil, but I'm gonna stand by it.
Or maybe you just didn't know your audience and genuinely thought people here would love this, in which case, my bad. Everyone makes mistakes.
At best you didn't know your audience
The post seems to have the most up votes compared to any other post I've ever made. I could be wrong, haven't looked at my post history in a min.
at worst you're trolling and supporting bigotry. Messing with people intentionally while spreading media that misrepresents a real, serious issue is maybe a bit dramatic to go as far as evil, but I'm gonna stand by it.
Oh I see. I don't really agree with labeling someone evil for just causing mischief.
Strangely convenient when the person in question is yourself. "I think the thing I'm doing is just fine"
Considering your opinion seems to be the only one you're taking into account, I think that's some pretty sound logic.
What's wrong with labeling myself as acting fine?
ew stonetoss
This is why people should gatekeep their hobbies
So much butthurt in the comments.
sigh I have been part of fandoms since the beginning of social media. I’ve been through Gamergate. This discussion happens time and time again and every time the answer is the same: if you are the one who has a problem with the group, and that’s causing problems, then you need to stfu or leave. Why? It’s very simple. You are the one having a problem. If you didn’t have a problem, then there wouldn’t be a problem.
Think of it like a DnD group. If you’re in a group, and someone starts causing problems with other people at the table over something that’s not their business, then yeah that person’s probably gonna get the boot.
Apologies for the snarky tone, I’m just kinda sick of having to have these arguments and discussions every few years. Games are a safe place, created for the purpose of having fun.
Agreed. Not everything is made for everybody.
I love political comics that are vague enough to piss off both sides.
Same
BASED
Not very realistic. You never stand down wind from r/freemagic