Gaul got the most upvotes. Honorable mentions go to Coin, Thread, and Snow.
No screen time. All the plot relevance.
🎨 Fan ContentKatniss’s dad
Absolutely. He taught her to sing, which caught peetas attention. He taught her how to hunt. His death it's what led to Mrs everdeans depression, leading to the Bread Incident. Katniss hunting led to her meeting Gale. Hunting Let her survive the arena. It all comes back to him
(And the whole without him and Mrs everdean katniss literally couldn't exist but that's a side point)
what do we learn from that? some more work safety would have ensured the capitol would still rule
Thats exactly what I said. Despite being deceased before the start of the trilogy, his presence is felt and had such a huge impact on Katniss. Without him teaching her everything when it came to her survival and archery skills, she wouldn’t have become the survivor she is throughout the series.
We learn so much about him without hearing a word from him.
Yup, I planned on voting for him for this since the beginning. Without him and his death Katniss would simply be a completely different person, most likely not mentally equipped for taking part in the games the way she did.
I was planning to comment this
So glad I’m not alone
If you truly mean NO screen time then my vote goes to Mr. Everdeen. I mean we don't even get a proper flashback scene with the man just the occasional "Oh my dad used to say that or do this" exposition from Katniss. However If you just mean very limited screen time then I cast my ballot for Rue. She was gone before the halfway point of the trilogy heck I think she barely made it halfway through the first book, but her "ghost" haunts the rest the trilogy because her death truly was a turning point, possibly more so than the berries. Nothing is the same after Rue dies.
Mr. Everdeen
MADGE!! literally zero screen time and she had the pin!
Your comment popped up while I was typing Madge😫
Unfortunately it would seem she doesn't exist in the movies
yes, Literally zero screen time
This is true, but she only had relevancy in the book. The movies scrapped everything relating to her. She is essentially not a movie character.
Yeah. she got zero screen time. she fits the description. she’s not a movie character because she got zero screen time despite being pretty plot relevant
She’s not relevant to the movies plot though. She’s relevant to the books plot. But she’s not a movie character. We don’t even know if she exists in the movie universe.
Trust me I hate that she isn't in the movie, I have no clue how they will show Maysilee in "sunrise on the reaping" but she is only relevant in the book.
She's relevant in the books, this is showing movie actors exclusively, so she's not relevant because she's not a character
Yeah didn't that random old lady give her the pin instead?
Yes!
But Madge isn’t that relevant of a character. Just her pin. She’s so irrelevant to the main plot that the movies cut her out and nothing changed.
She's relevant from a world-building perspective and as far as communicating some of Collins' messages about people of all socioeconomic backgrounds working together to make change. Plus her aunt in the second quarter quell. I completely believe Madge may have been aware of some rebel activity due to her father being the mayor, and that she knew exactly what she was doing with that Mockingjay pin.
But regarding the overall plot of the books she isn’t the most relevant as the prompt is asking about. The only legacy she has is the mockingjay pin and the pin itself really isn’t about her. More to do with the Capitol and their jabberjays.
what the other comment said, also she is our first hint that katniss is the world’s most unreliable narrator. it’s very obvious to the reader that madge views katniss as a friend, whereas katniss is completely unsure of how they view each other. it’s parallel to how all of D12 views katniss, like we see at the reaping.
plus: imagine madge had survived the fire bombing. she would have been another familiar person for katniss to lean on and trust besides prim or gale (who was not equipped to comfort katniss at all). she would have been someone who could have helped katniss stay grounded and may have even been able to help her deal with the peeta situation since madge knew both of them and may have even been friendly with peeta since they were both merchant class.
I was going to say this.
Prim. She's the reason Katniss volunteers and therefore the reason literally everything in the trilogy happens.
...And she's offscreen for 90% of the first book while Katniss is in the Capitol and the arena.
...And she's offscreen for 80% of the second book while Katniss is on victory tour, in the Capitol, and in the arena.
...And she's offscreen for 75% of the final book because Katniss is basically too out of it to accept the support and love Prim is offering even though they're in the same place for once.
Then she dies and grief over her death is the reason for Katniss falling back into the same isolation she was in before the story started when Peeta gave her the bread. So Peeta shows up again to usher Katniss into the next/adult stage of her life without Prim, who dominated Katniss' childhood. And the story ends.
Love Madge, but Prim in the answer here.
my thoughts exactly
Yeah, I have to agree.
Agreed!
It has to be Prim
This!
I feel like prim gets too much screen time honestly and katniss’ dad makes more sense because he’s the reason she can shoot, right? Among other things, she largely takes after him so he made her the symbol she became. And we actually never see him.
Every character is offscreen for 100% of the books unless you use an ereader
Katniss’s dad
Without him teaching Katniss how to hunt, she never would have been able to win the Games. Him dying also helped further hone her skills too, since she had to strictly rely on herself from that point forward
Prim lol
Prim gets ample screen time; it should totally be more, but compare that to Madge Undersee...
I took it kinda rhetorical, like someone who didn’t have a lot of screen time but the plot revolves around them. But others took it quite literal, but still. madge is not “all the plot relevance” , imo
Edit: if it’s literal, then Mr. Everdeen . Bc his death caused a lot of damaged and if he lived, it would’ve changed the plot, imo
I know it did not mean literally, this box thing was made for movies anyway. I saw a studio Ghibli one with the "no screen time" as Nahoko Satomi. I'm just saying it would be funny if we picked Madge bc she literally was not in the movies
ETA it would also be funny to see how OP managed a picture of madge💀
Oh why didn’t you say that? I would definitely voted for Madge for meme purposes LOL
Yea if this was only for the books I'd say prim in a heartbeat.
Prim has minuscule screen time for a character that literally forms the entire basis of the three books and the thought behind every one of Katniss’ actions. A solid three quarters of the series is Katniss wondering what’s best for Prim.
but compare that to Madge Undersee...
except she isn't in the movies, so not only 0 screen time, but in movie canon she doesn't exist.
Mr Everdeen. He haunts the narrative in a way
Prim. Not even a competition 😂
Katniss would literally not be in the Hunger Games without Prim. Nothing in the books would've happened.
Mr. Everdeen
Mr. Everdeen
Mr. Everdeen.
If you’re asking literal no screentime, I would say Mr. Everdeen because he had such a huge impact on Katniss and taught her so much (especially her archery, hunting, swimming, and survival skills) and without him, she wouldn’t have become the survivor she is in terms of her life living in 12 but especially when it came to her fighting in her two Games and during the rebellion. His impact and presence is felt throughout the books (especially the first one) despite being deceased prior to the start of the trilogy.
SUZANNE COLLINS
Yes
It’s literally katniss’s dad and he ACTUALLY has no time in both in the movies and books, only through memories.
Hear me out y'all: Crassus Snow
He's the reason the Hunger Games existed at all. If he didn't steal Highbottom's deluded assignment and pitch it to the Capitol, then they wouldn't exist, and Coriolanus wouldn't have carried on the game's existence.
Okay this answer is actually like super well thought out lol
Her dad or Prim.
rue, prim, katniss's dad
Madge
I’m not trying to be rude but how is she all the plot? Like yes the pin is very important; and it symbolizes Katniss role as the face of the rebellion (amongst the failure of the Capitol). But how is all the plot related to her . when Katniss does all of this for her sister, then Rue, and Peeta. She sparked the rebellion by berriers. The district’s started to rebel bc of the BERRIES , not bc of the pin. The pin was to symbolize (Katniss barely thinks about it), but the plot can all relate back to Prim.
I’m sorry but seriously, her?
She was also one of Katniss’s best friends in the books. No screentime tho
I mean she’s a good friend, but I’m sorry the only people that Katniss will do anything for , the ones that she constantly thinks about is her family (mother and sister), Gale, and Peeta, like their well-being and how much she cares for them. She is a dear and kind friend, but she is not the plot. That’s my point, if you take Madge out, the story won’t change that much. Yes, her connection to the pin is important bc of Haymitch’s games, but once again you take her out, the plot won’t change that much. If you take Prim out, oh yeah the plot will change, like it will change everything .
I agree but the caption is also “No screen time” and prim gets her share maybe not as much as she should but a lot. Madge literally isn’t in the movie for a second
But it also says “all plot relevance” 😭 that’s the point of me lowkey hating bc how is she all the plot relevance.
I guess you have to weight it how you want lol. I just feel like she has enough to justify the spot while prim gets screen time
She was a friend, sort of. Mostly just two people who were nice to each other as they didnt have close friends.
I don't think Madge is even mentioned ever again after the reaping. Can anyone confirm if Katniss even thinks of her ever again?
In catching fire it’s revealed that she spends a lot of time with Madge because Madge is one of the only people her age that doesn’t have to work. They aren’t big talkers but Madge plays piano for Katniss and Katniss starts teaching Madge how to hunt. The pin Madge gave Katniss in THG belonged to her aunt, Maysilee Donner, who was reaped in the second quarter quell and died in the arena. Madge also brings morphing to help Gale after the whipping.
I do remember the morphling now, but I've read catching fire quite a few times and cannot remember that lol. Probably why I don't think her relevant to the plot as I've completely forgotten about her despite reading the books so many times.
But I will be the first to admit, I do miss a lot when I read. My mind can definitely wander during certain parts.
Madge is mentioned quite a few times in Catching Fire and again a couple times in Mockingjay. They become close enough friends that Katniss even takes her out to learn how to shoot.
But it was still made a point that they were at least relatively close. Like in 12 how many people are even mentioned as friends to Katniss and obviously the pin itself is a massive part of the plot
But does the plot change at all if another person gives her the pin? It didn't seem like it to me. I don't think anyone other than Katniss even knows where the pin came from and I don't think katniss herself puts important to who gave it to her.
I think Madge is more the "no screen time part". She also has a good deal of plot relevance. Prim has quite a bit of screen time and way more plot relevance for sure.
IMO, if you take Madge out, the story won’t change much. I think her connection to the pin is important bc of Haymitch’s games, but besides that she’s not that relevant to the plot. I think Buttercup is more important than her , tbh.
The connection is important because Madge giving Katniss the expensive Mockingjay pin the first sign of inter class unity in Panem, when the Seam citizens and Merchants generally hated each other. This inter class unity is instrumental to the Rebellion. It's stressed over and over to remember who the real enemy is. First it's not the merchants. Then it's not the other tributes. Then it's not District 2. And only after learning that final lesson was the Rebellion successful. In short, without inter class unity, the Rebellion would have failed, and Madge symbolizes inter class unity. There are ways to express that moral without her in the story. But in the books, that was her, and that was very, very important to the plot.
But you can make that same type of assessment with her relationship with Peeta. How she constantly tells us how he is merchant, how he had a different upbringing, how he probably never had thoughts on rebellion. Literally in the D2 speech, she thinks of Peeta. Peeta represents that unity of class, and that’s why their children are the product of unity of D12.
Madge isn't the only person who represents inter class unity, but she's the first and, in my experience as a reader, most glaring. Again, the story CAN be told without her in particular, but not without what she represents, significantly, in the books. If you disagree, that is fine. I was just sharing my thoughts.
Yeah, i hope i don’t appear like rude or mean , bc if you have that sentiment with this character ,’that’s all in your right, ofc. I think it’s nice, but i just had to get it off my chest. Bc Prim is most of the plot relevance, most can go back to her. So for some to say Madge is crazy to me, but that’s my opinion.
Of course! Have a good one
Rue might not have ever trusted katniss were it not for Madge's pin
I mean maybe not as readily. I guess their alliance was always kind of meant to be
Do you think Katniss still would’ve been the symbol of the rebellion without the pin?
I do think she’s relevant but she’s not as relevant as some readers want her to be, IMO. This is just my opinion, it’s fine to have yours :)
Kind of confused why people say Madge as she has no plot relevance to the movies and therefore, no screen time. They changed that part of the story. To the books, she’s very important, though. Katniss’ father has great impact on her despite not being there (mostly because he’s not there, he’s influenced her so much).
Madge
Crassus Snow
Y'all know how badly I want to say prim... but I'm very devoted to the books and could never let madge go unsung. Madge gets my vote!
Madge. LITERALLY just Madge.
Prim, she has very little screen time and interaction with Katniss throughout the series considering it all started because her name was called at the reaping.
Prim for sureeee
MADGE
(She should have survived the war, Finnick and Prim had already died, why can't Katniss keep just one friend?!)
And she really needed a friend in the end.
True, let Madge join the Katniss/Peeta/Haymitch adpoted family!
She'd also probably have been adapted to the films if she had survived to Mockingjay.
Poor Madge, dying in her father's district
Prim
Prim
Prim
Its either Prim or Mr. Everdeen
I’d argue Crassus Snow, he’s dead before any point we see in-series, but is the entire reason the Hunger Games happen at all.
Prim has 225 votes complete the chart
Prim
Prim or Madge.
Tigress
How did she go from caring so much for snow to helping katniss when she's says she's planning to kill him?
I absolutely believe she was behind the scenes organising the resistance in the capitol
Glad to see someone else thinking Tigress.
Primrose Everdeen ✨✨
katniss dad
Katniss' dad ofc
Maysilee Donner
This is the answer. It all kind of comes back to her and we know basically NOTHING.
Now that’s Madge.
We don’t see her but her aunts death effected Haymitch, her pin symbolizes the rebellion, etc.
Madge
Madge
Voting for Madge
Mr. Everdeen
Katniss dad
Mockingjays
Hardly in it but a deep symbol of resistance
quick question, snow didn’t have a lot of screen time within the first trilogy so wouldn’t that make him the no screen time all the plot relevance or it doesn’t count?
the society one fits him as well, no surprise that he was chosen
Delly Cartwright
Absolutely Prim.
PRIMROSE! I’m screaming!
Shes the beginning and the end and doesn’t have much screen time.
Cinna or Prim
Mr Everdeen
Mr. Everdeen and Seneca (not movies)
Prim.
My first thought was Rue. However, while I absolutely do not think that Katniss would've been running around heartlessly slaughtering little kids had she not been an older sister, I feel like a huge part of Katniss's bond with Rue was because of Prim. Katniss missed her little sister and saw Rue in her. Katniss wanted to protect her in the same way she protected Prim and being unable to devastated her. But I don't think the bond would have been as strong/gut wrenching had Katniss already maintained an older sister/protective guardian mindset pre-games because of Rue.
I also agree with those saying Mr. Everdeen, due to him teaching her everything she knew and having the bond they had. However, I think Prim and taking care of Prim humanized her/contributed to Katniss's humanity and relatability more than Mr. Everdeen did. I think they both played huge parts but I think Prim actively kept her in touch with her humanity a lot more. Also Prim's death was what caused Katniss to discover Coin's true intentions and realize she needed to kill both Coin and Snow to free the districts from dictatorship.
Primrose of course. Katniss' father is also somewhat of a good choice.
Madge. She gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin and the Morphling for Gale.
Prim
PRIM
Donald Sutherland's (RIP) Snow! He only has 20 minutes of screentime in Katniss's movies
Prim
Prim
Prim.
Prim definitely
Mr everdeen
Prim or Crassus
Torn between Madge and Prim.
Saving Prim was the driving force behind Katnisses actions and started everything but Madge gave her the pin that became the symbol of the rebellion.
Thread wasn't "MADE TO BE HATED" in my eyes.. he was "THE HOT ONE".. THANKS BOBA
I’d say coin
Cinna. He died halfway through the trilogy but I would argue that he was the catalyst for the main plot of the entire trilogy. Especially if you’re talking movies, he was barely in them. I’d be amazed if Lenny had more than 20 lines total.
Madge.
Coin, she’s one of the most important characters in the hunger games but had no camera find in the first 2 movies and doesn’t have much camera time in the Mockingjay parts
Crassus snow
Madge or Katniss's dad. Bro they completely deleted Madge tho 😭
Hot one: Finnick Odair
me:.....suurree
(its peeta they should be swapped)
MADGE
Snows dad, he basically invented the hunger games
Madge Undersee. Katniss' dad actually had a scene in the first movie. He didn't have any lines, but he was on screen, Madge was written out
Madge
Justice for Madge!
MADGE
Coryo's dad. He's literally the reason that The Hunger Games exist because he turned in that school project. Without him there would be a very different story
Madge
Bonnie and/or Twill
Everyone saying katniss dad but hear me out, Madge
Mr Everdeen
Annie Cresta
The girl who gave katniss the mockingjay pin in the books.(can’t remember her name)
Madge, katniss’ dad, lady the goat 😢
if it’s the OG trilogy: lucy gray
If this one isn't Madge Undersee I will riot
Mr. Everdeen - Everything we know about him is plot relevant and critical to the districts rebelling.
Him winning Mrs. Everdeen ensures Katniss’s birth. Plus keeps Mr. Mellark from marrying her, ensuring Peeta’s birth.
Also as a result, Mr. Mellark tells Peeta about his missed love, helping to inspire Peeta’s crush on Katniss. Their love story is critical to the revolution
Mr. Everdeen teaches Katniss to hunt and to swim - without those skills she would not have survived her games.
He teaches her the Hanging Tree song, resulting in one of the most influential propos. This also hints that he had a rebel spirit, which Katniss inherited.
His death forces Katniss to become an even stronger hunter. It also forces her into a parental role with Prim which leads to her volunteering.
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Lots of people are saying Madge. She has little (or no) screen time. But how plot relevant is she really? The pin is important, but the movies proved that the source of the pin was really not that important.
Lol haymitch does not fit that category bless him
Haymitch was not normal in the books. Should have been Cinna.
Is OP going to make a post with the final results? I have to know the last one...
Crassus Snow. The creator of the title event and he’s never even seen.
Lady that gave katniss the mockingjay pin. Mayor’s daughter in the book/ greasy sae in the movies
madge
Rue
MADGE
Glimmer's actress wants us to say Glimmer
papa katniss
Snows father
The Mellark Family
I’m so late but the lady who gave katniss the mockingjay pin
Prim
Katniss' dad
Papa Everdeen for had absolutely no screentime and still drove most of the steps of the plot
Rue for 'technically was on screen but still carried the plot a surprising amount past their death/absense'
The little sister she subbed in for
Prim or Rue
Mockingjays
Plutarch?
Madge
Madge!!! The whole mockingjay thing started with her! And then you find out the pin actually belonged to her aunt who teamed up with Haymitch in his games and he also pissed off Snow by exploiting “the chink in the armor”? So much backstory and symbolism and history just gone. It’s gotta be Madge!!
Oh I immediately said snow…
Old snow
Prim or Seneca
Prim
Plutarch
Madge.
Crassus Snow
Maybe Casca Highbottom? Guy was instrumental in getting the Hunger Games started and basically made Snow what he is today (unintentionally)
Madge
MADGE
does madge count if she doesn’t exist in the films? she’s a very important catalyst for the plot in the book.
Prim
Madge
Has to be Wiress
Are we talking only the movies? Cause in the books it’s 100% Madge. She isn’t in much of the book and none of the movie, but she gave her the mockingjay and is part of the reason Katniss’ mom is so depressed.
Prim for sure
Katniss’ father. He is almost entirely the reason Katniss survived THG, largely contributed to Katniss’ overall personality, and set the entire tone for her relationship with her mom.