It depends on what the definition of the word "is" is
Lmao
And after saying that, he literally went đ
Is is is?
Or isnât is is?
His cigars did.
I remember when Hilary Clinton was running for president and they asked Lewinsky what she thought about itâŚshe said didnât like it because the last Clinton in office left a bad taste in her mouth
Actually according to the Star Report he never came in her mouth hence the dress situation.
If the lady spit, you must acquit.
She did not inhale
Doesnât mean there were no flavors in the mix
Iâm sure it happened more than once lol
I feel for the lady. She was harassed relentlessly and given so much shit for the whole situation. But she handled it with grace and humour and came out such a strong person.
Monica is hilarious. I follow her on Twitter (randomly came across her account one day) and she has some great takes and a pretty good attitude about the past.
She kind of has to at this point. Hillary made her out to be a slut that seduced her husband. The country just kind of ran with it. Never mind that this was an intern working for the single most powerful man on the planet.
and then she blamed "right wing media" for spreading lies about this affair.
it's funny how people still took Hillary as some feminist symbol.
Letâs be real- she wasnât the first to be in a vulnerable position in the Oval Office and give oral, and Clinton wasnât the first president to get a blowjob from an intern in the White House. They just both happened to be the first to get caught.
At least he got off a little easier than the other playboy president that came before him
You mean Lyndon "I have a huge" Johnson? I heard somewhere he would sneak up behind you when you were sitting and drop it on your shoulder.
Good olâ Jumbo.
Or as his Mexican hookers knew him, "El BJ".
Lyndon "I've had more women on accident than Kennedy ever had on purpose" Johnson
I originally thought you meant immediately before him and was confused âŚ. George HW Bush a playboy?
HW was a known pussy pounder.
Yea that jackass stole my "david cop-a-field" move
Cop-a-feel
God damn I'm illiterate
Oh, there was A LOT of getting off.
He got off easy all right haha
JFK fucked anything that walked and had a young intern giving blowjobs at the WH pool.
Wasn't even the bj, it was the fact he lied about it that got em impeached.
He lied to a grand jury.
But why was he being questioned by a grand jury in the first place? What did they think he had done?
iirc it wasnt a grand jury it was a deposition under oath. And that it was primarily about whitewater. But its been a long time.
Because the GOP was on a fishing expedition. The only reason Ken Starr expanded his investigation was he was a GOP operative
Letâs be real
We all wouldâve fucked Monica
Still would. Sheâs aged like a fine wine so far.
The oral office amirite
Is that a justification? I don't think the bar is set too high asking him to act professionally in the office, to not use his power to hit on young interns, to not cheat on his wife and put his daughter through a lot of anguish, to publicly gaslight and humiliate that young intern and act like she was crazy (until the existence of the dress was known). President Obama, among others, seemed to get through eight years without any sex scandals. It doesn't really seem that hard. "Being real" sounds like not taking responsibility for the consequences of one's own choices.
Letâs also remember that he only got caught for this one because he sexually harassed Paula Jones.
Iâm pretty sure it was from the Whitewater (real estate) investigation.
Ken Starr was able to expand whitewater because of the Paula Jones case. Honestly, if Clinton was as smart as we pretend he should have done a Trump and âsettledâ But iim guessing it would have been too expensive to pay off the whole list of ticking time bombs.
I copy paste here from Wikipedia useful info.
The Paula Jones case provided the impetus for Independent Counsel Ken Starr to broaden his ongoing investigation into Clinton's pre-presidency financial dealings with the Whitewater Land Company, and resulted in Clinton's impeachment in the House of Representatives and subsequent acquittal by the Senate on February 12, 1999. Specifically, Clinton was asked under oath about Monica Lewinsky in the Jones suit, denied having ever had sexual relations with her, and was accused of perjury after evidence of sexual contact was exposed. The Jones lawsuit also led to a landmark legal precedent by the U.S. Supreme Court which ruled that a sitting U.S. president is not exempt from civil litigation for acts committed outside of public office.
Nowhere did I justify it.
Monica Lewinksy wasn't innocent either, she was a consenting adult who flashed her thong and flirted with Bill Clinton. She seduced him and he allowed himself to be seduced, it takes two to tango. She wasn't a victim, she wasn't "gaslighted." She had a big mouth and blabbed to her friend Linda Tripp, a huge mistake.
you're not wrong, it was infidelity, and I'm sure a major part of the appeal for her was the position of power he was in, but even she admits it was 100% consensual , republicans just dragged her through the mud and made a spectacle of her life to hurt bill
Maintaining that her affair with Clinton was one between two consenting adults, Lewinsky writes that it was the public humiliation she suffered in the wake of the scandal that permanently altered the direction of her life: âSure, my boss took advantage of me, but I will always remain firm on this point: it was a consensual relationship. Any âabuseâ came in the aftermath, when I was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position. . . . The Clinton administration, the special prosecutorâs minions, the political operatives on both sides of the aisle, and the media were able to brand me. And that brand stuck, in part because it was imbued with power.â
She wasnât âguiltyâ either. There is absolutely nothing wrong with human sexuality. I have no idea if Billâs marriage was open or closed and itâs absolutely none of my fucking business.
Everything they did was alone and behind closed doors with their own bodies, it had nothing to do with us.
Exactly, I agree 100%. I was just pointing out that Monica Lewinsky was an active participant in the relationship. People make it seem like Bill Clinton coerced her. I love the Clinton years. I don't understand why his infidelity was even a thing. The Republicans were out for blood.
I think its only the president that got caught, not the powerless intern...
Warren G. Harding is the horniest president the U.S. ever had. A real perv.
The good old days when the worst thing happening in the Oval Office was a BJ
Blow jobs are better than no jobs.
Duk Rrrr Thrrr
30 Hours by Kanye West, 1:58
A shared cigar is better than no cigar.
"Mmmm tastes good"
Smells funny.
We had no deficit. How the fuck did we have no deficit?
The dot-com bubble hadn't burst yet and we still had a 40% top marginal tax rate
Also Clinton and the Republican Congress agreed on pay-go, so anything that passed that cost money had to be funded
Itâs the second part
Not having a deficit isn't necessarily good, it means the government is sucking more money out of the economy than it has to. And don't forget that the way they achieved not having a deficit was by slashing welfare programs and justifying it with racial stereotypes.
You mean the Oral Office.
Oral office.
Take my upvote
Dude in the back definitely knows
That mustache is impressive!
Hilarious that heâs part of such an iconic photo for all posterity.
That's Groucho Marx.
He's fucking her too.
Or heâs fucking him
Good call. He's possibly fucking both of them. Some real freaky shit going on right here, dude is way to happy.
He just got done getting sucked off by the president in this picture actually
That's fucking crazy. Source please?
Why would you need a source for something so obviously apparent?
You're right, nevermind.
It's a good thing he never had sexual relations with that woman.
She kinda looks like Vicki Vallencourt from afar
And she showed me her boobies, and I like them too!
I like playing the phoozball too!
Leave the poor lady alone.
I grew up in the 90âs so this was always just a punch line to me. I saw her Ted take a year or two ago and it totally changed my opinion. She seems like such a genuine person. One of the best Ted talks Iâve ever seen.
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Last Week Tonight did a segment on 'Public Shaming'. She was interviewed for the segment - if you haven't seen it yet, definitely check it out, it's both interesting and hilarious.
Naive and exploited, neither the first nor the last time something like that happened
Her mother was âfamousâ for writing a book about her affair with one of the âThree Tenors"
Late 90's America had only Black and White photography in the White House...đ
ouch!
Ther American Crime Story series on this is spectacular.
Wonder where the dress is today
Based on this story, if it still exists, it is apparently in Ms Lewinksy's possession. I didn't see any specific reference to it being returned to her after all the impeachment stuff (I didn't try to do a deep dive since I'm at work), so it's just a guess on my part.
She recently wrote/ produced a series about it. It was quite educational, and entertaining. The portrayal of Linda Tripp was riveting.
It's Impeachment: American Crime Story. Clive Owen plays Bill Clinton to perfection.
So great of him to take the time to pose with an intern, a real class act. Hopefully he rubbed off on her.
His lapse of moral, ethical and political judgement in this was astonishing. He knew that everything always gets out, he knew the Republicans were going to have a field day, he knew he was doing something wrong. But he did it anyways because he could.
This was back when an indiscretion could cost you the presidency. Now, itâs almost a prerequisite, at least for one particular politician.
Bill was always like this, though. Lots of affairs in his history
Even before he became President, he was known as Governor zipper problem... some people don't change...
I don't think it was the slam dunk Republicans thought it was. If anything, Impeaching a president for a BJ only increased his popularity, especially since Hillary stayed
Clinton's average Gallup poll approval rating for his last quarter in office was 61 percent, the highest final quarter rating any president has received for fifty years.[249] Forty-seven percent of the respondents identified themselves as being Clinton supporters.
She was only 22 years old and trying to get ahead in life... she just figured if she gave a little head first it might help...
The fact that a 49 year old President took advantage of her is another story all together.
She had already had multiple affairs with older, married men by that point. It was kinda her thing. There was a scandal at her college because she was having an affair with her married professor and his wife left him. At some point it stops being men taking advantage of her and becomes her responsibility as an intelligent adult. She was pretty happy about her actions, she made the first move, and she said so repeatedly.
When a high school teacher sleeps with one of their students, it's not usually called "an affair." That's not "multiple" affairs, either.
The misogyny in this whole comment section is so insane. How depressing to see how little men have progressed since the 90s. Or rather, completely regressed.
So youâre saying 22 year old women arenât capable of making adult decisions?
At what age and situations do they become mentally cognizant?
Took advantage of.. she was an adult
A leader of a nation sleeping with someone who works for him is absolutely taking advantage of her. Bad relationships arenât just about age, also about power
If it were a 22 year old man in her place with a much older female president, these men's rights types would be all over this post saying exactly what you're saying. It's all just misogyny.
It was mutual. Following your logic, anyone who sleeps with (or sucks off) a CEO or mayor or millionaire is a victim.
If they work for them then, yes.
Good point. Also, context matters.
The manager at my job holds the title AND power over me. For someone that doesnât work there, the dynamic doesnât exist. They are still in power, but only to those that are under their leadership. Having âpowerâ doesnât mean having absolute power that is all-encompassing to everyone
Power can be as simple as having leverage on someone or being able to give/take away something they want
They are. Right wingers like you never understand coercion, consent/power dynamics. It's the lead, or illiteracy.
Working for one of the most powerful men in the world
Two adults engaging in consensual sex activity.
He was much older and in a position of extreme power.
Mutual sexing between two consenting adults.
I wonder if he ever smoked that cigar.
That blue dress with the big jism stain, lol !
Those were the days you couldnât even pay nanny under the table . If you wanted to get into politics.
She had the prettiest smile he ever came across.
Hard to recognize her with her head above a desk
Thatâs cool. Itâs nice to see that he took the time to give her some face time.
âI wonât be voting for another democrat, the last one left a bad taste in my mouthâ -Monica
Just like pelosi and Kennedy, expect she didnât look happy to fuck Kennedy
lol the guy way in the back is smiling because he knows whatâs going on lol
Why would you post this in black and white?
Remember when everyone considered her "fat"? Wtf.
Didnât he lie about the incident?
I wonder what that A means?
Her hair is literally shaped like it was under a desk
You mean humidor
Ah! The throat goat.
She bears the letter "A"
I hope she gets a head.
âMy little humidor.â
That's the look of a man with an upcoming blowjob appointment
That depends on what the meaning of 'is' is.
Bill Clinton is a POS, we all just forgot how tight he was with Epstein. People need to go after this guy
Remember when Very Serious People said that BJ was the end of America as we know it?
Now we have SCOTUS toying with the idea of making Donald Trump King of America.
So much yet to come, Republicans appointed a child molester to investigate him and put on their community theater moral outrage show, then when their guy did worse they made up alibis for him.
If you were "concerned" about Clinton's behavior, Trump's actions should make your brain melt.
I wonder how many interns blew him.
must be the timeline where 9/11 was averted
Difference is this was consensual. Trump is a convicted rapist.
And he paid hush money to a porn star using campaign funds and then used fraud to cover it up. And 10,000 other things.
trump paid a porn star but republicans don't care about that
Did he do it in the White House?
the white house is the presidents residence, do you have a point to make?
Nice whataboutism
When times were great for the middle class.
Guy in the back there knew.
He can see Bill's right hand
Nice.
Well!
What a lovely professional relationship that'll turn out to be!
Beneficial for both, I'm sure. S/
Now where did I put that cigar...
Nothing wrong with the BJs, but theyâll need a Mature Audience advisory for tobacco depictions.
She kind of looks like Libby from Sabrina the Teenage Witch
" I did not inhale "
The top heard round the world
boing! schwing!
The Oral Office
The best lips in the White House at that time.
I wonder where that blue dress went đ¤
It looks like the guy at the desk in the background is smiling because he knows whatâs really going on.
Shouldn't she be under the desk đ
Cigars. In her hoo hah. That is all.
Think about how different the World would be if it wasnât for Clintonâs moral failings.
On this day Bill said âima see what dat mouth doâ
Great intern. I heard she blew him away.
The Oral Office
Lol "That" intern?
Everyone in here calling Monica a victim but wouldnât it be best to just ask Monica herself? Oh look:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/05/monica-lewinsky-speaks
Monica has agency and it infantalizes her to ignore her own view point which, some 30 years later, she can express with very little risk of manipulation or duress.
Per the interview, she obviously regrets it because it caused a scandal and subjected her to very cruel public ridicule. But she is very clear that she was a consenting adult.
So, white knighting for Monica Lewinsky is unbecoming in its own way. It ignores the possibility that maybe Monica was a grown woman who knew exactly what she was doing. Which is what Monica herself, with the benefit of decades of hindsight, says occurred.
Now, Iâm not saying Clinton isnât a creep. Heâs got a larger track record that can be judged on its own merits (or lack thereof). He was more then willing to accept sexual favors from women who were in a difficult position if they turn him down. All while being married. Lewinsky was young and it is a sad reflection on our society that she thought fooling around with the President was in any way in her best interest.
Hard as a rock
Did anyone else zoom in to have a closer look at blouse?
Canât see his hands
Damm time has certianly changed how we view them together
Where's her left hand?
Hell yeah. No porn star for him. Just a college intern. So old school.
Snickering photo bomb McGhee in the back.
Kids these days donât know thereâs a cigar in this picture.
From the look of the guy in the background, he was getting BJs too.
Ken Starr was just trying to overturn the election, nothings really changed. He was just a political hack that did a 180 when it came to defending trump.
marc maron just creepin in the background
Just a random intern, lol!
"hey guys, who's got a cigar ;)"
looks like they were stopped in flagrante delicto
You can tell she already let him grab ass once
"Abuser posing with his victim" FTFY
Homeboy in the background with the mustache has a smile on his face that says I know whatâs going on between those 2
I did not đ have đ sexual đ relations đ with that woman