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It’s a group of people. More than 10. Maybe even more than 20 now.
The best way to defeat rage bait is to not engage with it in the first place.
YEGWave has a clear right wing bias and their comment sections are some of the most racist cesspools I've witnessed
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If you think "informed and balanced news" only exists in your reality, then you've answered your own question as to why that information isn't public knowledge.
My guess is that you misrepresented a story of your own and these people exposed you, or possibly someone you know.
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Welcome to the 21st century. Hate and rage are all we're fed online.
Happy to be in my part of the internet where I ask a question I guess?
If the journalists did a better job with less paywalls and more accurate news, maybe we wouldn’t rely on yegwave as much.
Personally I prefer yegwave because if something happens I know it’ll show up there almost instantly and without having to waste time visiting websites and going through ads.
I hate the paywalls and ads too, but I'm curious how you expect news sites/orgs to pay journalists for their work as a legitimate alternative to them?
The problem is that real news sites aren’t allowed to post news on Facebook or Instagram, but Yegwave can. So you get faster but very unreliable “news” from Yegwave. It’s not exactly a fair playing field.
Yegwave is extremely unreliable so everyone should be very critical of what they see on there.
This was an issue before the news ban on Facebook. It's just easier for Yegwave to take a video and slap on a quick caption than it is to write an article and get it published, or wait for the evening news, which is unfortunate. In the day of social media, they've done a pretty poor job of spreading breaking news. They could have easily been doing what Yegwave is doing, but better.
The reason accounts like YegWave post faster than the news is they don't do fact-checking — journalists do. We get information quickly sometimes but it can take time to verify the authenticity. We don't want to alarm people something is happening if we don't know if a video is real or if it's from when/where it says it is. Videos can also be misleading because you don't know what's happened before and after.
As well, media orgs have standards on what kinds of things should and should not be published (editorial standards). For example -- not that I've seen yegwave do this -- but news media may know that a bridge is closed because of a suicide and choose not report on it because doing so could encourage other people to harm themselves.
I won't post photos or videos of kids/teens/minors or anyone who is vulnerable in some way, someone who is using drugs, having a mental health or medical crisis, homeless and just existing in public space, unless there's a very good and newsworthy reason to do so. Why? Because we should avoid sensationalism, avoid dehumanizing representations of people, avoid putting people in harm's way if they're vulnerable, avoid putting people in danger just for clicks. Be responsible for the harm you can cause by what you put out into the world.
I think accounts like yegwave can be useful -- but I get angry when they steal my photos or my reporting without credit, which they have done a few times -- as long as you keep in mind nothing has been verified and you have no way of knowing if what you're seeing is true, misleading, or what harm it may be causing.
I used my words a bit loosely, my apologies for that. I definitely respect the journalistic integrity of actual news and it just sucks Yegwave has flourished the way it has. I feel there should be a way to meet in the middle of old vs. new news, but it probably isn't that simple given what you've stated. I appreciate the insight into the process; it is definitely not as easy as making an Instagram post.
You’re welcome!
Accounts like yegwave do have the potential, I think, to fill a niche that is useful to people. As long as people can keep in mind that, really, you should be skeptical of everything you see on social media.
It’s just disappointing when they steal stuff from news orgs because Facebook/Insta block us from sharing our own stuff, and they can take advantage of that. Also disappointing when I see stuff that’s harmful —- a video of a teenager blocking a road who was obviously in medical distress comes to mind, which was IMO really horrible of them to post.
This is all fair.
If you put aside the stealing of some others (and submitting legitimately otherwise) videos and slapping a huge watermark on it to increase the growth of their page each time…
again, why not be forthcoming with who they are?
again, why not be forthcoming with who they are?
I'm not understanding what would change if we knew who it was. I know plenty of people don't like Yegwave, but what difference does it make who runs it?
probably so you dont get doxxed and have people going into your personal stuff if someone disagrees with your post like this is such an easily self answered question.
Not saying I support Yegwave, but the owner of that LibsofTiktok page has been harassed a lot since their info is public or doxxed or whatever happened there. I especially don't support them, I'm just saying I don't blame people for staying in the shadows.
With that said, death to Yegwave. It's a shame that the person behind it is profiting off of it and it keeps growing because they are clearly not a great person. Lots of people seem to miss that though.
It’s yegwave, it’s about Edmonton and not the person that’s posting it. Their choice is to not show themselves, and focus on the city. That’s respectable and shows a hint of humility.
They could easily try to ride the fame train but they choose to stay anonymous and keep focusing on the city.
Now who’s making money out of it, shouldn’t be our problem.
Showing the ugly sides of Edmonton while many of the posts are out of context probably isn't the best way to promote the city. In a lot of cases their posts incite ethnic or racial hate.
Many people have zero respect for how Yegwave conducts their business.
Profiting off it is the very definition of “riding the fame train” 😂
I don’t think so. Because they’re profiting over Edmonton news, not over who they are. Nor are they trying to push their own “persona” to people.
I know a lot of people who would’ve tried to gain personal fame in a similar instance.
Anyways mate, I think there’s bigger things to worry about.
Then don't look at their posts? Not sure why you're so affected by this. If they post stuff that is illegal or breaks the rules of the site where it's posted report it and move on?
Arguably they do break the rules (but I think federal) of being "news" on social media
Depending on where it's being posted report it to site for being illegal content. Or there must be a government department that would be responsible for it? CRTC maybe? Or if they are posting hate content maybe the RCMP?
Right but, how do you enforce when the 'owner' remains anonymous? I would guess ANY legal document whether CRTC, RCMP, CSIS, etc, can't just say "yegwave" as the offender.
I mean it's not a dark web site. If they're actually breaking federal laws, at the very least the authorities could get their accounts banned and I'm sure finding the person's identity wouldn't be that hard for them either.
I doubt leaving your name off your Instagram page is a loophole that lets you break the law with impunity.
If they are making any money off of it, the CRA knows who they are.
The powers that be would just shut down YEG Wave and if they want to fully go after the owner they would have to investigate and figure out who's posting the same way they track anything else on the web.
I think you're overestimated the monetization a channel like that would have. They don't sell anything, no affiliates, no marketing, and no sponsered posts.
Don't they mainly just post on Tik Tok? Their is no creator fund in Canada,
However, I also choose not to support that cesspool. Does he even credit the original poster or is it just stolen content?
Instagram is where I first saw them, before they turned into the cesspool of trash posts, rage baiting, and racist farming.
I've probably seen some where they credit (or use "sent by a follower") but also numerous times where it's stolen, sometimes verbatim from valid journalists, which feels all sorts of greasy.
Around the time I raised my questions, they had “sponsored posts” for the mall on their pages.
Have also seen numerous accounts of people trying to get stuff taken down and not being responded to/blocked.
Edit: to add, of course they have been provided some real great/informative content. Separately, I once ran into one person on a walk who was filming a crash scene, that I later was shown the video of on the Yegwave accounts. I wasn’t in it. But I recognized the scene obvs.
YEGWAVE is just another site to share information. I often find stuff posted there right away which I like, but I also have the ability to take some posts with a grain of salt. Not sure why knowing who runs the site will solve your problems.
Some kid probably. Move on with your life homie. There are more important things to think/worry about than who runs a shitty social media account
I promise my life is fulfilling whether I get the answer to a question or not.
I’m impressed so many rush to tell me how little they care.
I hope your life goes better as well, bless!
Why do you care?
Now I am curious, what content is stolen? I've only ever seen their IG page and it's just general news du jour (like hockey scores or whatever the headline was that day) and people sending in videos. Like how do they "steal" cellphone footage of drunks fighting outside the arena or other random occurrences around the city like flipped cars. To what end?
Sure, some shitheads post comments. And, so? Most of the internet is unmoderated. Ever open the comment section on CBC, Global, or any Youtube video? Why is this one rando account so egregious? Most people over the age of 25 have probably never heard of them, they're totally insignificant but you've let them live rent free in your head for over a year. I could never. Just move on.
Them coming up in another conversation (someone gave the “its three non-white dudes” kind of answer) on Reddit, made me want to ask the question.
I should have made the post less about me. Fair notes.
Edit: trying to let you know, it hasn’t lived rent free, but the “oh I saw that crack head on Yegwave” I hear from time to time def does make me sigh a little.
Who cares? Why didn't you come up with it? Props to them.
IDC who runs it. It's a cesspool. Worst comment section I've ever seen.
Hahahah I’d say the same for Reddit on this sub. It’s better on there. Maybe grow some.
The worst comment section belongs to r/alberta, but there are a lot of users here who also post there.
Lol of course it would be someone in the Edmonton subreddit calling to doxx the person who runs that account. One which has explicitly remained faceless in order to limit their bias and personal influence on the content.
Also, in case you're wondering why they remain anonymous? This post calling to doxx them is absolutely one of the reasons.
I don't agree with everything that gets posted there, but it's in no way worse than this subreddit, in which mods refused to delete comments wishing that conservative families' homes would be burned to the ground last wildfire season.
I stopped following him when he burnt a Panthers jersey on twitter.
Of all the legitimate reasons out there to dislike Yegwave, this has got to be one the strangest one.
It's disrespectful mate.
Also apparently yegwave guy is massively racist against Pakistani and black people
Pakistanis but not Indians and/or Bangladeshi? Seems oddly specific. What's the source of those claims?
His discord server from 2 years ago so shaky at best
Honestly tho that discord server for yegwave was a cesspit
I'm not on Discord so no idea what that was about. When you say shaky at best, can you give examples?
Openly using the n word
Saying racial slurs
There’s other claims but they may be fake
Interesting. I follow them on Instagram but haven't noticed any of that.
This was years ago so I’m not sure if it’s true
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I don't read them. I almost never read comments because they are invariably a cesspool. It's the first rule of the internet for a reason.
Also the OP of any post on the internet, whether it be a news article or an Instagram reel, is not responsible for whatever goes on in the comments and comments sections shouldn't necessarily reflect on the OP of whatever is being commented on if the original post isnt inherently inflammatory. It's very much a judgement thing.
OP still hasn't made any actual arguments other than "I also do comment moderation" which is not a substantive contribution to the topic at hand.
And no, I don't think there is a responsibility for the original poster of anything to be accountable for the comments section. CBC, CTV, Global and other news sources often have comment sections that go really bad really quick but no one is holding them accountable. Why is that?
I mean, yegwave clearly holds some homophobic, transphobic and racist beliefs, as evident by what comments he has liked, pinned and responded to in the past. There is a responsibility to put forward minimum effort to tell your fanbase not to harass people, and yegwave is at best staying silent and at worst stoking the flames himself.
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Your point being what? Do you have any refutation for my comment above or just the old "I've been doing this for _____ amount of time" with nothing substantive to say?
I blocked them, the racist undertones to their content isn’t for me
Does it matter? It's run by an individual, likely in there teens
When they do what they do, yes it matters. No repercussions for the anonymous who steal, bait hate, etc.
Ok good luck with that
I think they should disable comments on their posts. From what I've seen their posts are decently neutral, but the comments are what makes it a cesspool of hate.
It’s either some young adult or a CSIS team.
UCP staffers
YEGWAVE provides raw unbiased news basically live whenever stuff is happening. Guy who’s running it is doing gods work
is stealing " gods work" too?
I’m sorry I have been a bad vessel for asking the question.
Thank you for providing actual sources.
Listen here Internet Stranger, you've asked the good questions, all these naysayers are likely just fan boy/girl/humans/other and scared you'll break their safe haven for hate, brain rot, and other assorted filth :P
Lol unbiased
Randomly posting racist or political posts to increase interaction isn’t “gods work”.
Block & move on. That’s what I did when it popped up on my Facebook feed. I got no time for that crap, you’re not going to stop it, may as well just ignore it
None of our concern.
To what I’ve seen it ran by a 20 year old guy who sources his news mainly from young adults and high schoolers