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I honestly hope Bethenny takes a break from socials because this is so sad to see.
New YorkI think this is spot on.
So, spot on, this actually reminds me so much of the breakdown of Carol and Bethenny's friendship. It was obvious to see how turned off Carol became of Bethenny. They were so close. Even though Bethenny really burnt her bridges with Carol, it was devastating to watch Bethenny lose that close bond.
Especially so when you’re with a grieving friend for the summer that you’ve known for decades and probably getting these type of FaceTime calls everyday about XYZ
I always felt that Carole liked Bethenny but never really considered her one of her closest friends, she was more of a work-bestie
I honestly think Carole may have considered Bethenny one of her closest friends, but within Carole’s framework of what that means. Carole is very mellow, logical, and laissez faire. Bethenny is the EXACT opposite
I feel like Carole considered Bethenny a best friend until the entirety of Bethenny’s persona came out and Carole realized “woah, I dont have the emotional energy or the desire to be able to emotionally nurse this other grown adult” and that’s when Carole re-shifted where Bethenny stood in her life, probably without communicating it tbh, and then Bethenny got hurt and started lashing out more
I just did a rewatch and you are spot on and also Carol is a withholder. She could have solved everything so easily by just saying, “I hear that you are upset. I love you,” but she would not. I love both of them (my two favorite nyc housewives) but Carol definitely played a role in the demise of the friendship imo.
Exactly. I recall Bethany finding out that Carol had spent time with another friend and demanding to know why Carol didn’t make the time for her. I found that kind of pathetic. How Carol spends her time is up to her. Yet, Bethany was not asking, but demanding that she be given more time. You really can’t do that to another person. It has to come from them or not at all. Bethany was ‘a lot’, back then and probably still is.
Bethenny wears people down. She's a lot.
Yesss! I remember from the reunion that Carole said something about her needing space from the relationship and Bethenny couldn’t handle it and was texting her asking why Carole didn’t like her anymore or something like that?
Wow that’s a lot
Is the moment in their friendship I always think of regarding Bethenny and Carole.
Same! It’s all I ever think of when I remember their friendship. So incompatible.
The slightest misspoken word or action would be under suspicion. She doesn't trust, if anything, is overly doubtful of any good intention. She has such high walls; started low by the experience of her dysfunctional parents/upbringing, but built sky high by herself.
I have a friend exactly like this and it’s so exhausting 😭
They wear you down
I wonder if Paul is still in the picture? She hardly mentions him or shows pics of them lately. Maybe he’s emotionally Burnt out too.
Good point. I've thought the same thing
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Where???
I know Ramona is very flawed (and a racist yes I know this sub) but she was spot on with her assessment on Bethenny, Bethenny didn’t have close girlfriends and when she did she water boarded them half the time and could strike a normal balance
Bethenny and Ramona’s frienemy dynamic was one of the most interesting relationships (to me) on RHONY. They remind me of a more dysfunctional version of my sister and I. We love each other, will inevitably fight (not to their extreme) if we’re together too long and the bad blood does not linger.
Bethenny’s quick wit was also made for roasting Ramona.
Agree! I think it's so interesting when dysfunctional people can be spotted in each other but not themselves. The worst people tend to be completely correct about who the other worst people are, but are completely blind to it in themselves. Ramona and Bethenny, jax and sandoval on VPR. Really fascinating
Jax is a great example, he can read situations so well but is terrible at reading himself
The bridge comment was the utter truth. That hit her CORE.
Agreed - on RHONY, she was awarded for that behavior and maybe thinks she will continue to be awarded for that behavior outside RHONY. As you mentioned, it would be difficult to be her friend or even close to her when she would probably throw you under the bus for a paycheck.
She actually touched on the criticism she receives for her small friend circle on her latest podcast episode. Spending so much of her childhood getting burned left and right by people she trusted has made it near impossible to trust people so she’s very selective about who she lets in and keeps her friend circle close.
I wish this sub would just let her be. So many narratives get spun about her that are completely false.
I get she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but relentlessly going after her for merely existing has gotten so old.
Sure but she’s not merely existing. She’s constantly going on social media and posting the craziest videos for attention and drama. If anyone I knew IRL posted a video of them sobbing like this on Instagram or TikTok, I’d probably feel like it was for attention just the same as I do for Bethenny
FWIW, I didn’t watch this video. It very well could be the saddest thing that’s happened to her but my empathy for her has been worn out
She’s talking about the loss of her mom, whom she had a really difficult relationship with. There are a lot of parallels between her relationship with her mom and mine, who is currently terminally ill. Bethenny opening up about the process of grieving and the surprises she’s been feeling post mortem have helped me prepare for what’s to come in my own life.
Anyone who posts on social media is looking for attention otherwise they’d just write in a journal. Bethenny is choosing to be vulnerable despite comments like yours because it helps people like me.
If you want to put your energy toward judgement, it’s your right, but I’m thankful she’s continued being unapologetically herself regardless of what people say.
I'm sorry but you're being fooled by her. Beth doesn't do anything that's beneficial to anyone but herself. She's shown that over and over again. People aren't making things up. Much like her mother was Beth is a Narcissist. Many a HW's are. But please don't fool yourself into believing she's trying to help you or anyone else. That's one thing she's banking on.
I’ll go ahead and decide what helps me deal with my own childhood abuse, thanks.
That MFer really just told you you’re fooling yourself into healing 🤯
People are sick.
Hard agree.
She needs to get off social media.
Oh ok, stranger on the internet who has zero insight into her actual life 👍🏻 How about you get off her social media and examine why someone using the platform in the way it was intended bothers you so much.
Exactly
She's very manic, grating and I can't see her working well with others. Lately she seems very off. I can't see her ever having an eternal relationship with a guy.
I think her daughter is her only real friend and that’s a big burden to put on her daughter, amongst the other shit she puts her kid through. I am so curious what her dynamic is like with Paul and what kind of trauma he has had in his life to be attracted to someone like Bethenny
She needs to find a good therapist instead of talking to millions of strangers on social media. It’s really helped my mom issues.
I said this before. Ever since Covid she’s isolated self more and more. Like it’s damaging to her mental health.
It is very hard to treat or resolve narcissistic personality disorder/Cluster B type symptoms.
I was JUST gonna say this. You can see in the episodes where she’s In therapy she has her own agenda and when her therapist challenges her she blows up.
Yes and I know this will come across as cold but something about Bethany is unsettling to me. I'm not sure whether it's narcissism but iwill say she is very manipulative. A lot of her breakdowns on the show always felt like manipulation. She always had them after being horrible to ppl so it kind of felt like a distraction technique to avoid accountability and to seem like the victim. I felt this way with how she handled her divorce too. She seems to weaponize people's sympathy/empathy. Idk if she is a psychopath but something that stuck with me studying it, ppl get gut feelings like uneasiness around some psychopaths and I just get that with her.
Agree for sure. Remember how much she was crying and blubbering over telling Luann that Tom was at the Regency kissing another woman? Those tears were not for Lu, give me a break.
Her reaction to this was INSANE! How the hell was she more emotional than Luann. Her drinking vodka at 10 right after too was a lot 😳
Yeah, B’s reaction served a few purposes. It brought all the attention back to herself while also making her appear sympathetic to Lu. The vodka drinking was just to once again plug Skinnygirl.
i’m on the spectrum and it gives me a sixth sense for when people are trying to manipulate me. she is one of them
This take. Spot on
💯.
And I would like to add that I think putting her sessions with Dr. Amador on display for all of us to watch caused her more trauma and pain than healing. Retrospectively, he seemed thirsty for the camera.
I absolutely am not attempting to clinically diagnose B, however, observationally it feels like she suffers from a bit of arrested development - which is extremely sad given the seismic amount of success she’s had in life. It feels like she’s constantly chasing some sort of approval that doesn’t actually exist.
ETA: like, girl…..take your break. We more than give your permission. Go heal yourself. We may even miss you and like you more when you inevitably return.
Yes, she does however if she did then she wouldn't get what she's after. I thought Kyle was one of her besties? Why not pick up the phone and talk with her? They both lost someone they were close with recently. I'd think they be able to help each other out. But again. If she were to do that vs talking to complete strangers she wouldn't get what she's after so 🤷♀️
She strikes me as the sensible type that would go to therapy often and have the money for good treatment. I’m only speculating but there’s a chance she might just have the wrong therapist and because they’re probably charging her through the roof there’s a risk a therapist might morally get corrupt and start accidentally creating more mental issues by validating all of the patients “wild” ideas and feelings as not to lose that high paying client. Or a therapist might just call it “the healing stage”, actually feeling your feelings and whatever is coming up that you used to ignore and push to the back of your head. There’s multiple things that could be happening but I think she definitely does go to therapy and has spent a lot on it
If the show is any guide, it seems like she goes to therapy and when it gets to that part where you actually have to start applying what you’re taught and making changes, she taps out. If so, I understand. Therapy is very tough.
She’s been having this same breakdown since before her marriage. I have been rewatching her spin offs and she is constantly overwhelmed and emotional because of how busy she is and talks about needing a break and to slow down and stop saying “yes” to so many projects. This breakdown she posted is nothing new. She is unable to stop and slow down because if she does, her trauma comes flooding back. So she has to stay insanely busy.
omggg EXACTLY THIS. I would totally sympathize with her but she brings this upon herself. she moved like 1000 times renovated 1000 apartments bought multiple hamptons homes she also had to renovate, branched skinny girl off into wild directions like jeans. constantly said how 'manic' her life is. like, girl, you were RICH at this point, buy a fucking finished furnished apartment and chill tf out.
She has to keep going so she doesn’t have time to feel. Every time there is a moment of stillness, she has a breakdown.
Reminds me of Paris Hilton. They have all the means to stop working and just RELAX and enjoy their life and family. But they simply canNOT do it. They act like they are completely helpless and held hostage to their schedule. It’s a bizarre thing to witness from the outside. Sounds like a special kind of hell when you willingly torture and imprison yourself. No one else is doing it to them. Fascinating.
And anytime anyone ever points out to her that she’s not actually a victim because she is making the choice to do this to herself, she freaks out on them.
Yep, it’s usually when she starts crying and saying everyone is jealous of her success and she’s so tired of having to tiptoe around everyone’s feelings because of how successful she’s been and she’s worried about everyone hiding how they really feel about her success 🥴🥴🥴
Seriously. KELLY SHOULD TELL B: Go to sleep!!!!
I have a friend like this. She works in a school and she goes off the rails mental health wise every summer. It's so tough to see. She replaced drugs and alcohol with school and then work as well.
I think it’s impossible for her to take a break because what she really needs a break from is the chaos in her head. It’s not what tasks projects or activities she’s committed to but the hamster on a wheel in her brain that never ever ever stops spinning. Like constant rumination and intrusive thoughts. It’s relatable in that sense. I also see it as manipulation though because she thinks it’s the outside world that is the problem when she’s in this state “stopping the ride” is not what she needs, being further isolated and alone with her thoughts is clearly not what she needs.
Right?? This is par for the course with bethenny.
It's so bizarre to me. She allegedly has millions and millions of dollars and can afford to totally retire, and just live her life with her daughter. She could have an easy life now if she wanted!
Wow, this makes a lot of sense to the TikToks and the constant yells for attention and lawsuits and hating Bravo and Andy. She needs to surround herself with as much noise and chaos as possible because the silence itself is too much to handle. Unfortunately that means inflicting her annoying ass on everyone else lol
Yes. The silence must be avoided at all cost. I relate to her because I have trauma as well, including a horrific divorce I went through at the same time as her (our daughters are the same age so I always related to her and had a soft spot). But over the years, I have moved on. I have grown. I have learned how to be uncomfortable with myself and observe and reflect on those feelings to understand my triggers. I was blown away by some of the “realizations” she mentioned in her latest podcast that were plain as day to me. But I suppose that’s how it is, we cannot see from the inside. But in any case. I truly have deep deep compassion for her and feel such a deep sadness for her. She is trapped in a hell of her own making and she is the only one who can rescue herself.
I had an acting teacher who once told the class, if we don’t deal with our traumas, our traumas will deal with us - as we age. The older we get, the worse it gets. I fear it’s too late for her. But maybe she will surprise us.
So much of her insanity seems to stem from trauma around her mom. I wonder if her passing will provide some closure and allow her to mellow the fuck out. She’s been insufferable for years now but I sometimes end up feeling for her because you can almost smell the excess cortisol flooding her system
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When my mom died, it opened wounds for me too. I feel for her. She needs a trauma therapist. The best ones don’t take insurance for a reason. They don’t have to. I hope someone reaches out to her and offers their services.
I think that it is probably pretty natural for the microscope focus on things to start and flooding of old memories after death of a parent, so I do feel for her on that but it's sad she turns to social media, in my opinion
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I watched the podcast too. I was really struck by her comments regarding the letter her mother sent her when she was 20. It made me wonder if, by sharing the details of that letter and speaking about so much intimate details online, if she’s unconsciously repeating the same cycle.
Either way, my heart breaks for her and while I think it’s brave for her to speak about her complex grief, she seems very vulnerable and I’m also worried about her social media use
It’s sad to me, because it’s not her “fault” that she is the way she is, it is her responsibility however, and I do think that when a person is gone from your life, that wasn’t exactly a good influence or support, there’s a chance to heal.
You’re right she has acted insufferably and it’s tiring, but I do feel for her rather than other housewives I’ve not liked that much. Because she’s a deeply damaged person, and it’s all out for us to see. Her trauma is huge. It was huge back when she was on RHONY, and it seems bigger now. That’s the trouble with trauma, it fucking festers in you. So I do hope this all gives her a chance to really dig that out and get rid.
It's disturbing that she takes solace in recording such a low moment & posting it to her story to be analyzed, criticized, & pitied for what it is: a cry for help.
She trusts no one. She relies on no one. She's alone on an island of her own making & I don't see a way off of it. She needs to get off social & get some professional help.
Amazingly enough.. it’s still painful to lose a parent who was responsible for a lot of your fight or flight responses and mental abuse. You almost don’t know how to act. And if you haven’t truly worked out your past trauma and issues which I don’t think she has.. it can really kick your butt. I hope she gets a really good therapist and really does take a break for herself.
My narc mom died right when COVID was beginning. I was so glad I didn’t have to deal with her anymore but it also forced me to recognize that I had done literally everything in my life prior to that in an attempt to finally win her approval. That was ROUGH to face.
So yes I agree completely
I’m so sorry for what you went through.. I’m sure that was really rough.
This is me to a tee. Both my parents are gone too, and I’m in my early 30’s. It’s especially brutal since my mom died from her addiction, and she was mean to me until the very end. I never got the chance to even say goodbye, or to ever see her sober. It’s a complete mindfuck
That’s awful I can’t even imagine. I know the thing that’s helped me is letting that go (easier said than done, takes work) and moving forward and KNOWING I will be a much better parent or friend or sibling… whatever is your life.. just be better! And break the cycle! Sending you prayers for healing.
Where is Paul?
Sorry but this is so funny
He’s doing what everyone else does. Back out as slowly as possible and hope Bethenny doesn’t notice in the moment and then prepare yourself for her raging lifetime onslaught of you and your character.
Legitimately, how is she with this cute seemingly normal man and I am single? She’s insane. I am not.
She has a net worth of $12 million.
She's worth way more than that.
He can hold his own $$ wise
Opposites attract?
Well, you're on Reddit dragging someone you don't know. So that's probably one reason.
No clue. But you want him to swoop in and be her therapist just because??
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I think we should have empathy for her. This is a really important relationship for anyone and it doesn’t sound like she had the best upbringing. This is a significant loss for her and a complicated one at that.
She needs to log the F off.
It seems like we've been watching her spiral slowly for a few years now, and it is very sad. I hope she gets help and tackles her demons.
I will never understand people who post videos of them crying.
It makes me feel so sad for them. Like where are your friends sweet baby?
Filming yourself crying and then posting it for followers is so weird to me
Totally. I also find it weirder imagining them reviewing it, red-eyed, afterwards and adding the filters, text etc. and posting like wtf.
Yes!! Like how many times does it have to play through before they're finally like okay this is perfect??
Exactly!
She right, people don’t post reality on social media. I deactivated my instagram/facebook/snapchat over a year ago now and I’ve never felt better. I don’t know if she will commit to this break but she needs to for her mental health and for the sake of her daughter and family too.
She had to have broken up with Paul right?
i cant believe people actually cry into a camera and actually post it on the internet. not just her, anyone. everyone.
Poor Brynn.
I hope she has someone she can turn to for support. Paul? I feel badly for her.😞
She is so delusional that she actually believes she is being relatable with this video. But bethanny crying bc you have so much going isn't really relatable to 99 percent of the population, bc you have the ability to just take a month, year, years off, bc of your fiances.
She really needs to go away.
I think most people can empathise with the death of a parent
The video was recorded before her mom’s passing.
Mean
im confused by the context of her post… what was right before her mother’s passing? is this an old video from her drafts and this breakdown was before her mother passed?
This is giving a Katie Rost vibe. They both need to get off sm.
Poor B. I feel for her.
She really needs a break and to get therapy. I really hope she's not dumping all of these intense feelings on little Bryn finishing out her school year now.
It all comes off as disingenuous. More drama = more engagement.
it is really hard to know at this point what is bait and what is real. while I’m sure the emotions surrounding her mother are real, just take the time off my dude. you have so much money that allows you to do so. she has always seemed proud of her ability to goad people into engagement so I agree that it does come off as disingenuous.
You can always take a break from her.
I hope Bethenny gets the healing she deserves. Grief is never cute. Let the woman live.
Some of y’all are so ugly inside… wow.
The video was recorded before her mom died. She is crying because she is overwhelmed with work, which ticks some people off (including me), who have a normal life with bills we can hardly afford
Couldn’t agree more. Some comments here are disgusting..
I’m going through a hard time at work and sometimes I feel like this but I would never post it lol. My friends would be very very concerned.
As much as she hated her ass, Bethenny has so much more in common with Kelly Bensimon than she would ever care to admit
I feel really bad for her but she needs to stop with the attention seeking. She’s spiraling
Where are her friends?! Someone help her!
Poster girl for thirsty 🙄
She's a shark. She has to keep swimming or she will die (metaphorically for her).
As others have said, she needs to take a real break and focus on treating her trauma. Otherwise the cycle will continue where she starts to feel the trauma creeping up on her, so she throws herself into projects to avoid the trauma. Does this until she burns out, then has a meltdown because her mind and body are just exhausted.
I feel great sadness for her daughter who is having to live with such a narcissist.
Nope you did not have to share this, it is for your own ego
Grieve in private, your mom’s death isn’t a dollar tree haul
Stop sharing her posts and she probably will.
I’m not interested in her, please don’t post about her anymore.
Why reply if you don’t care?
I always know when I see your name that I am about to read something biting and unconstructive. Thank you for not disappointing.
IMO sharing her posts to other platforms so more people can see her and saying you're concerned for her is a paradox 🤷♀️
She needs psychiatric help. Jason needs to go to court and see if he can protect Bryn from this woman
Does she think everyone will crumble if she isn't on social media? It's OK, girl, take your break. You seemingly need it.
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I feel for Bethenny because she seems like someone who desperately needs close friends to talk to and lean on, but her personality is so intense and off-putting that it seems really difficult to be her friend.