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By this logic I should be like Stephan curry.
Depends where you are in your development process and how competitive you are. I’m an average level for casual pickup in the mid range and three point shooter. I’m in my late 20’s playing in a rec league so I try to do 100-150 makes per workout (about 2-3 times a week). I’d probably recommend more than that for competitive players.
I used to shoot a thousand shots a day in the offseason.
How far did that get you?
Set several high school 3 point records and played JUCO ball for a couple of years. Our sophomore year’s team made it to the final four and that team is in our college’s hall of fame. It’s not Steph Curry but I did ok.
Lmao awesome. I just saw in your profile you were 6’9 so figured you had to at least have gotten to college to hoop, maybe got a shot at pro.
I’m 6’8 but was more of a post banger. Trying to get my jumper nice now for mens leagues as I creep into 40 😂
It’s insane how good some JUCO guys are. My best buddy growing up was 6’5”, lean, fairly athletic, and an absolute beast in pickup games/shootaround. He was by far the best player on the court in most of our high school games. He went on to play for our JUCO team and got in even better shape and had a much deeper bag after working with college trainers.
He was the last player on the bench and almost never saw the court.
It frustrated him so much that he sadly lost his passion for the game and never tried to even go D2 or 3, which he easily could have. I think his ego just couldn’t take it that despite being the best athlete his entire life in our area, there were scores of guys from outside of our small bubble who were just as good as him or better lol. (The plight of growing up in a small, sheltered community.)
I agree though it seems like juco has gotten a lot smaller. With prep schools, more kids get opportunity to get their grades together.
I just play in mens leagues now but I find that juco stars are often more talented than d1 role players. D1 guys either have the right bodies or grades but it doesn’t translate to being a better basketball player.
The jump from high school to JUCO ball was crazy. Everything was so much faster. I couldn’t imagine the jump from high school to d1. 😳
Yeah, when I graduated from high school I was 6’8, 170 I think. I wasn’t known as a banger inside but I caught a lot of people off guard when they saw I could shoot.
Did you not realise that is Steph Currys account?
It’s actually Karl Anthony towns
what did you do for rebounding shots?
I shoot maybe 100 shots a day in hope one day an NBA player come past the yard for a shoot around , so far , no one has come past. Highly unlikely as I live in Australia, but I’ll be ready
Likely you’ll get Ben Simmons coming past but he’ll pass
I’m cool with that! He can pass me every rebound and then we’re all happy.
i used to practice shots really close to the rim. Id x10 makes each side without the ball touching the rim. If it touched the rim id start all over again. once I make 30 shots id take a step back and repeat the process. I used to just do that maybe for 2 hours. it allows you to work on your form its really good basics.
2 shots is all you need. If you make them both, take a week long break.
After a week take 2 more shots. Drained them both? You still got it my friend. See you next week.
You can take a lot of shots as long as they aren’t forced. If you elbow starts hurting stop and take a few days off until it’s ok.
4 shots of vodka and 3 shots of whiskey
Larry Bird, arguably the best shooter of all time has a drill that he credited with his shooting proficiency to.
He would start by shooting from 1 foot from the basket and shoot till he made 50 shots in a row. Then he would take a step back and shoot from there until he made 50 in a row. He kept stepping back more and more until he could shoot from everywhere on the court.
Here, read more about Bird. https://www.quora.com/How-good-of-a-three-point-shooter-was-Larry-Bird-compared-to-Steph-Curry-and-other-great-shooters-in-NBA-history/answer/Kavita-Sehgal-30?ch=10&oid=1477743666965491&share=503be5cf&srid=hvdl8Y&target_type=answer
Lol Larry bird is not arguably the best shooter of all time.
Read the answer I have linked above. There is an argument to be made for him, whether you accept it or not is your choice.
Seems like a lot of “ifs” in that answer. If he played in a different era. If he wasn’t injured. If he developed a 3 point shot before 1984.
If my grandma had balls she’d be my grandpa. Can’t judge the greatest off of what could have been.
There are always ifs when you compare players from different eras. Only a numbskull compares players from different eras without taking those differences into account.
There really isn’t a an argument to be made for Bird to be the best shooter OAT. Best shooter of his era, definitely. One of the greatest ever, definitely.
All time? Steph is undeniably the best shooter of all time, and really, it’s not even up for debate, no matter what that link says
Bird was 42% ahead of the league in 3 point percentage at his peak while Curry was about 32% ahead of the league average in the year when this gap was the widest.
I don’t get why these idiots don’t get it was a different era. It’s like saying Josh Allen is better than Joe Montana because he has more rushing yards
I guess you didn’t read my comment.
About Bird: “best shooter of his era? Definitely. One of the greatest ever, definitely.”
I’m giving Bird his props for the era that he played in and how threes weren’t taken in near the volume they are today.
But the fact is, Bird never shot threes to the volume steph has, never shot as deep of threes at the volume Steph has, and he doesn’t hold nearly as many three point records as Steph does.
We don’t know that Bird could put up this same type of production because he was in an era where he simply couldn’t. That doesn’t take away from his all-time greatness as a shooter, but it also doesn’t make any sense to act like he really has a case for greatest shooter OAT when he didn’t produce at all levels of shooting the way Steph has been consistently doing for 10 or so years now.
Yes. I have said that there is an argument to be made for Bird's case. There can be "buts" to it like this asshole has shown us. But the case very much exists
Here’s a nice stat for you: Bird attempted 1.9 threes per game for his career at 37.6% while Steph attempts 9.2 threes per game at 42.6%. (Yes, bird had a 5-year stretch where he shot 41.4% on threes, but that’s still on less attempts than Steph and still a lower percentage that Stephs ENTIRE career).
So Steph shoots 7+ more threes per game and has a 5% higher percentage of makes.
There isn’t an argument here.
Agreed. Bird shot a lot fewer than threes a game than Curry and most other modern three points shooters. In absolute terms, I agree with you that Curry wins hands down and it is a no contest.
But in relative terms, adjusting for eras I am not so sure. What Bird did was more amazing for his era than what Curry did in his era. Bird had 42% better three points percentage than the league average at his peak, compared to Curry's 32%.
Bird shot threes at 41.4% for a 5 year stretch in the 80s! For the 80s this was unthinkable! By doing this Bird certainly showed that he had the potential to shoot as well as Curry if he had played in this era.
The issue with this argument is determining all time players does not and should be adjusted for relative terms.
If you do that for Bird compared to nowadays, why not do it for Steph for back then? We can’t determine how either would have performed in the different eras, so we can’t use a hypothetical to determine all time rankings.
Also, I don’t even agree that what Bird did for his era was more than Steph did for his in terms of shooting. Bird was revolutionary in shooting efficiency and shot-making in his time, but Steph is just as if not more revolutionary in terms of shooting for his time.
If he shot a couple more shots than Bird a game and had around the same percentage on a lower volume, I’d agree with you. But Steph is shooting at least 4 times more threes a game on a higher percentage than Bird ever had (even in his amazing five year stretch) for his entire career. Add that onto the higher difficulty of many of his shots, and I just don’t think Birds shooting is more revolutionary (for his time) as Stephs is and has continued to be for his.
This is an awful point.
3 point shots werent taken nearly as much back when Bird was playing compared to when Curry started to really get going.
Players got tremendously better at shooting threes league-wide (hell, we’ve got a good bit of centers who can shoot consistently from behind the arc currently, which helps bring the percentage up by a chunk), and yet Steph still stands in a league of his own in this 3-point era in pretty much every single three point stat despite the explosion of efficient 3-point shooting league-wide
It is a wrong argument. Steph shoots at a higher 3 point percentage, on 4x the attempts, at deeper ranges, with far more defensive attention on the perimeter. There is no reason to give credence to the idea Larry could triple/quadruple his attempts while maintaining or increasing his efficency. That is an absurd idea that has never been replicated in NBA history.
That is your opinion and it is perfectly alright.
Bird's shooting accuracy actually goes up the years he shoots more. However, I still I agree with you, Stephen Curry has volume over him.
Also, you can't say how much his efficiency would drop by shooting higher volumes of he practiced it as much as Curry did. We could get a hint of that by how he did relative to the league at free throws and two points shots which he did practice. Both of those hint that he'd do pretty well.
He absolutely would shoot a higher % with more attempts. Bird would often go a week without shooting a 3 point shot in a game. You don't think that affected his %? Anytime Bird averaged over two 3 pointers a game he shot over 40% but one year but one year when he shot .389
30 pts a game
JK
Depends on how much you score buckets in
500
If you want to play in the NBA, 1000 makes from 3 per day
Idk how a person would know the answer to the question I’m about to ask but relatively if I had a entire day open and I can schedule a period of time to do 1000 shots is this possible (of course I know it depends on my ability to make the shot) to do in 4 hours?
Assuming your shot and release is only about 3 seconds should be about 50 mins for 1000 straight. With rebounding and everything stretches to prolly around 2 hours of pure cut shooting with no breaks. So possible yes, but would be hard to do consistently if you aren’t very disciplined
Gotcha thank you commander
Impossible to do without support staff
Yea exactly, would be exhausting asf and would basically only be shooting for a daily exercise
Like if I wanted to schedule myself 4hours a day
Steph takes 500 shots per day. Ray Allen hoisted up 250 shots before every game.
1000-1500 a day
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I played D2 college ball so I wasn’t on TV or anything but I did break the 3 point record at my high school and college.
I would shoot anywhere between 300-700 shots a day. And that’s after lifting and doing ball handling drills
Trained with this indian guy one summer he makes like 20 threes straight in a row and he makes 500 a day. Im 16 and since that summer I haven’t been shooting as good I remember coming with my mum to work since there was a popular court right next to it i would get 200 shots a day and play from 8am to 6pm with hourly breaks inbetween I was making 10+ threes straight easy contested
300
Lift and lift and lift and lift some more. Then put up 500 shots.
On the joking side. Don’t take shots before you play. Drink beer. One of my fondest memories is from my bachelor party. We rented out a gym in the area we were planning to stay at so we could get some runs in before we started the core festivities. We ended up drinking about 3 or 4 beers each before we got into the runs and holy shit playing basketball a little tipsy turns the game into easy mode. You don’t overthink and all the mechanics you burned into your brain over the decade+ of playing just take over. I was pulling up from EVERYWHERE, hand in face, double teams, contact layups, everything was falling. I highly recommend lmao
18 minutes a day, over a 6 - 12 week period you will see real improvement... So that's like 150 shots without a rebounder per day, aim for a 1000 a week and you will see some real tangible difference
I think Larry Bird shot a thousand a day, I’d always shoot for 100-300 each day
200 normal 50 game speed
12 MILLION
I took about 1000 shots a day back in high school- actually sprained my wrist from it lol..
For the people who can’t get shots up due to lack of a court, not being able to come out of the house cuz it’s a school night or whatever else the reason is, this is what I used to do.
I used to practice my form laying in bed. Just flicking my wrist. Seeing how close I could get the ball to touching the ceiling without touching it. Bc you’re laying down, holding your arms in the shooting position strengthens your shoulders over time. You develop a better feel for depth perception, almost like shooting on a rim with no backboard or from the sides of the basket. Those can be some of the toughest shots bc you have nothing to gauge behind it. It’s the same with the ceiling. It’s all feel. Then bc you’re so close, you don’t have to hoist the shot, it’s all wrist. So you’re subconsciously holding your proper form, using your wrist to send the ball (while in a regular session on a court, your jump plus the flick of the wrist is enough. Then also the depth perception.
Full disclosure, I did this, not bc I thought it up or heard it somewhere. But I’d get grounded or whatever and couldn’t go out to shoot or play and this was the closest I could get to shooting. But as I look back, for the reasons I listed above, I think it really helped my shot, which in turn helped my overall game tremendously.
Hope this works for some of you. Sound easy, but you’d be surprised what your arms and shoulders feel like after 10-15 minutes of this.
Lay on your floor shooting drill for a 1000 a day for two weeks . Proper form and release points . Doesn't take as long as shooting on real hoop then after two weeks take it to the court start with foul shots with the same floor techniques .
500 . I’m a basketball coach and we always recommend 500 shots a day 650-700 if you’re really about that life
I just saw an interview with CJ mcollum and he said anywhere from 300-500 is an average workout for him
Much easier when you have a trainer
NBA players probably put up 100 shots from 1 spot and they are perfectionist if they don't hit their target shots of like 70/100 they will go again .
I don’t know but I would say do 40 minute intervals. Concentration can peak there and start to drop off.
1000
500 a day
Any suggestions for getting those shots in pre or post weights workout?
Any suggestions
For getting those shots in pre
Or post weights workout?
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It varies greatly. Stop focusing on how many makes or shots you got up and focus on how challenged you were during your workout. A good workout is determined by how much you improved, not how many shots you made. That being said, shoot a lot but make sure it’s game speed and they’re high quality reps. You should shoot about 35-40% in your workouts in the offseason. Do more confidence like workouts where you see the ball go in a bunch in the preseason and during the season. You should shoot much better in these workouts
Like 9-10 if it’s whiskey, 6-7 if it’s tequila
Volume is one thing but making sure u got good mechanics is another. U could do 1,000 shots a day but if you shooting with poor form then that won’t do u any good.
If your form is bad, one is too many.
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I played with Rico, a 60-year-old custodian who opened the gym for us, every Sunday for 5 years. He had no arc on the shot but was a certified sniper. After about midway through the 2nd game you could smell the vodka coming out of his pores.
So I’d say maybe 8-10 shots the night before at the maximum