As long as they are yours and not your Jewish neighbor's it's fine. The Seppos forced us to implement some laws against tax evasion and money laundering, which could get you in problems if the bank finds out they are not your gold teeth and paintings.
Oh with the Halbierungsinitiative in the pipeline SRF will hopefully make sure not to spend any unnecessary money on this event, because this is exactly the type of money waste the advocates against Serafe are talking about.
Although I really hope they fuck it up.
Edit: Apparently SRF doesn‘t want to hold back on spending, as to their newest media communications.
This is what Europe ia about if something is happening in Europe you can trust that Switzerland will save us by not being involved. PRAISE THE MOUNTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Armenia was the only act that used the 360 degrease crowd/stage effectively. The rest just performed with their arse to one side of the crowd for the entire performance.
Switzerland won because they secretly know Europe is about to be engulfed in WW3 and Switzerland will be the only safe place to host the next year's edition.
It was just an unoriginal Rammstein copy. They mixed several Rammstein songs. Sonething like that should never win. Our contestant's song was also hugely copied and we rightfully only got 24 points and we should've gotten 0 together with Croatia.
Estonia deserved way more. Politics aside - israel was so boring i'm surprised it got so many votes. Ireland was a banger, Armenia was a banger. Kinda feel like our Lithuania boy should've gotten more votes, but I won't complain.
I didn't really understand why France or Italy were so high.
Unfortumate for Netherlands and Suomi boys.
Greece was a little cringy
“Ireland a banger”?? I don’t believe what I read. I can understand you find the performance entertaining, but you can’t be serious if you say it is a good song.
If a 20 year old israeli girl is only able to participate under heavy security measures, something is wrong and giving her support is more than justified. It’s a sign that a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event.
The Olympics is just as political as Eurovision let’s not give the Olympics too much credit. Dictatorships have regularly used the Olympics to make a political statement for example Nazi Germany. The Olympics have regularly been boycotted by the US or the Soviet Union to make a political Statement. The Olympics is always followed by massive protests you should read and watch about the different persons that run with the Olympic flame how many times they are attacked by protesters and how many times the Olympic flame is extinguished because of these protests. The reason why you do not hear about this is because the media is more silent on this matter and ignores it.
So many Sports events and they decided to choose the one which was so political that all wars would be temporarily stopped so that the participants would be prepared for them. The event that was used for propaganda during the entire Cold War and in 1936, the one which didn't allow a country to participate because of their apartheid policies (South Africa) definitely isn't political
Eurovision isn't supposed to be about politics, especially not about a 3000+ years long conflict.
I mean yeah. But why was that girl constantly booed then, had to stay in the hotel most of the time and received idiotic interview questions like if she feels guilty that she is endangering the other artists by the virtue of just being there and participating?
And let us be honest - had to protesters outside been there to protest against the non-binary contestants and a journalist had asked whether the Swiss contestant feels guilty about endangering the other contestants people would have lost their minds and yelled “victim blaming” etc. and that would have been justified.
Of course she shouldn't be threatened while being there (even though Israel should've been banned from even entering), but let's not kid ourselves about her stance, she supports the Israeli government and what they're doing in Gaza while also having stated that she's joining the IDF after Eurovision.
She’s joining the IDF because that’s what every Israeli has to do. They have mandatory military service. except some of the ultraorthodox ones, and even that exception is heavily debated right now.
And Israel doesn’t fuck around with the draft. Here in Germany it was trivial to be exempted from service with a doctors note. In Israel it’s almost impossible to get out of unless you’re already in a wheelchair or a mental asylum.
Doesn’t Israel literally have mandatory military service for men and women? Also how do you know she votes for likud or some other far right party? It’s obvious that an Israeli would support the war to exterminate a terrorist group that made the biggest terrorist attack in her countries history.
a decade old conflict between a terrorist organization and a far right israeli government shouldn’t be fought with violence 1000s of kilometers away at a laughable music event.
Don't you see that you're doing exactly that and making ESC about that political conflict by giving her support because of it?
Also, did you know her song was explicitly nationalistic and the ESC asked her to rewrite it to be less political?
Mf, I specifically said POLITICS ASIDE. I don't care about the conflict, I'm saying that her performance was dull and overly generic and ass. That's the reason I think israel didn't deserve as many votes as it did.
Her being the representative for a country that's in deep shit over a conflict is not reason enough for her personal safety to be compromised I agree, but it's not reason enough to give her so many pity points either.
This is not a political dick measuring tourney, this is supposed to be a song contest, at least put some effort into pretending that it is
What it’s shown is that what people actually believe and the side they’re on and what those with institutional power and cunty protestors would label wrongthink are one and the same. As far as I’m concerned, that’s more important to me than some Eurovision vote.
There’s no hiding it any more, even if they want to pretend now people know that not everyone hates Israelis just because they’re told to. I think we will see an actual shift in societal attitudes because of that.
I'd rather croatia get it but Switzerland was pretty great too. Israel getting all those points was a bit sussy, and portugal getting scraps was pretty sad, but at least we didnt get 0 (sorry barry)
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you're anti Israel you can't vote against them. If you're pro Israel you can give them 20 votes. I don't think it's suspicious at all, it's just the nature of the voting system.
Yeah, this is the first year I'm really happy about having the jury. People voting for the most politically controversial candidate is not a good system.
On the same note, I think that's why they moved so quickly to ban the Netherlands. They would have gotten the anti-Israel vote. That might be even more people. Winning because of that would have been equally stupid.
Not really about that last part, the anti-Israel vote has one of two characteristics:
a- Voting for ANYTHING besides Israel
b- Voting for artists that are actively anti-Israel/Pro Palestine (ie. Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Switzerland, Netherlands)
While Pro Israel votes are... Vote Israel -> profit
Joost Klein wasn’t anti-Israel or pro-palestine. All he did regarding this topic was asking “why not” when the person from the organisation said to the Israeli singer that she didn’t need to answer a difficult question in the press conference. The reason he got disqualified had nothing to do with Israel. (Source in Dutch)
My man if flamboyant and gay coded performances are "degenerate" to you, you shouldn't be around Eurovision, and the fact you think it's somewhat a new trend while ABBA won 50 years ago , clueless.
It's a competition about music but also about not giving much of a fuck and having fun, but I understand how a Bavarian German wouldn't get those concepts.
I think he was joking. Nazi Germany pre ww2 did an expo of "degenerate art" , for contemporary art they deemed insulting (In case you're being serious, if not, sorry for the art history snippet) .
Can someone explain me why Israel got so many votes from the public? All the songs sounded equally terrible to me and i thought Israel wasnt very liked
When everyone's fighting, Switzerland ends up being the winner. History really does repeat itself