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I don't take much credence into that fight. It was at altitude and both of those guys were completely gassed after the first round.

If we're talking skill, Diana Taurasi exists, Tamika Catchings exists, Candace Parker exists, Maya Moore exists. So, a lack of skill has nothing to do with why you didn't watch before Clark. Maybe dig a little deeper and find the real reason.

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Whether it's bait or not, it embodies who Angel Reese is on a basketball court. Is she the most skilled? No. Is she the most athletically gifted? No. But there's no one on any court she ever steps on that's going to out work her. Tenacity is a skill, and it's not one you get better at with reps. Either you have it in you or you don't, and Reese has it in spades.

4 women from the opposing team were going after that same rebound. 4 vs. 1 turned into points. It's not pretty but it's still a bucket.

Purely rap? He has a lot of R&B/Melodic type songs. Workin Out is dope. His song with Mereba is one of my favorite recent R&B songs. https://youtu.be/bPL8J4TFCcE

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

A contender for what?

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Unless you blame Trae and DJ solely for the terrible defense that's kept this team from getting over the hump, I don't get where you're coming from.

I mentioned it in the post, but this team was 3rd in PPG and 7th in offensive rating in their first season together. I think we kinda take that for granted, but having multiple guys that can create their own shot and create for their teammates isn't something that's common.

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My thinking was most of that occurred when Trae was injured and DJ was on the bench. You could have a point because some of it is bound to be garbage minutes. But when healthy Quin would usually play a rotation of Trae on the floor the entire 1st, and DJ going to the bench around the six minute mark and coming back at the start of the second when he'd rest Trae, so one of them was always on the floor it seemed to me, until Trae went down with the finger injury.

Zaccharie Risacher and the Case for Ruining It Back with Trae and DJDiscussion

The Hawks' decision to draft Zaccharie Risacher as the #1 pick this year, in my opinion, signals the Hawks are content with running it back with Trae and DJ, and I'd point to Risacher's fit, both offensively and defensively, as to why this is the case:

  1. The Secondary Ball Handler:

After the gentleman's sweep against the Miami Heat three seasons ago, all of the talk surrounding the team became the need of having a secondary ball handler, and in that off-season entered Dejounte Murray.

Yesterday, on this sub I saw something that made me realize the Trae and DJ pairing, for as mediocre as it's been, actually resolved that problem. Someone posting the negative net rating stats the team has when Trae and DJ share the floor, but that data also had the most insane stat I'd seen in a long time. Without Trae and Murray on the floor, this team had 101 offensive rating. Go back to the "dead ball" era of the late 90s early 2000s, and a 101 offensive rating would still be terrible. In short, this team hasn't proven it can score the ball consistently without Trae or Dejounte on the court, and removing one of them from the equation could place us right back where we 3 seasons ago against Miami.

  1. Drafting Sarr Would've Signaled a Change. Risacher Compliments the Current Roster:

Trae and Dejounte are both high-usage guards, and Jalen Johnson is poised to see increased usage as a scoring and playmaking threat. Adding a player like Sarr, who would need to be ball dominant to reach his ceiling, would have ensured DJ would be on the move because there just wouldn't be enough touches to keep everyone happy. Also, Sarr’s shot selection will likely lead to low shooting efficiency this season, with what I'd predict to be field goal percentages in the mid to high 40s and three-point percentages in the high 20s to low 30s. This would not have been an improvement for the offense next season, anyway we want to look at it. Risacher, on the other hand, is a perfect fit. His game thrives off the ball with constant movement, cutting to the basket, and finding spot-up opportunities from three. He's an excellent catch-and-shoot player and rarely needs to dribble in the half court. Watching his games, I was legitimately shocked by how little his team put the ball in his hands to create one-on-one. Not to say he isn't capable of creating his own shot, it could just be a function of his team's system, but the fact that he's comfortable playing without the ball allows Trae and Dejounte to play their style. Also, I really believe in Risarcher's shot. With the type of looks Trae is able to generate for shooters I'd be surprised if his 3pt shooting numbers aren't impressive out of the gate.

  1. Risacher is a Defensive Upgrade:

In their only relatively healthy season together (22-23), Trae and Dejounte led the Hawks to third in the NBA in PPG and seventh in offensive rating. SCORING IS NOT THE ISSUE WITH TRAE AND DEJOUNTE — defense is. Risacher brings another plus defender that this team desperately needs. While he may not yet be an elite, All-NBA level defender, he looked like an athletic and capable defender in Europe. He's effective at neutralizing smaller twos and wings due to his size and athleticism. He's not 7'1 like Sarr, but when you see him guarding guys on the perimeter, his size advantage is noticeable, and being a teenager, he's only going to get bigger. He’s adept at closing out on shooters (sometimes too aggressively, leading to blow bys), he typically doesn’t get caught ball-watching, and he maintains good defensive positioning. Think back to the Boston series two seasons ago and all of the easy buckets they got backdooring Dre, I didn't see those lapses from Risacher. And when he's beaten off the dribble he recovers well and can affect drivers that get a step on him at the basket due to his size. Not saying he'll ever be a rim protector, but in help situations he looked solid, affecting shots and getting blocks at times. While, I believe Sarr would've been more impactful defensively, Risacher should be a plus.

  1. The Archetype:

I've seen the Risacher "Harrison Barnes pro comp," thing, but I believe his ceiling is higher than that. We constantly make the case for trading for 3&D, Herb Jone type of wings. Well, we just drafted one. I think it's an overstatement to say he'll be that level of defender, but he's a teenager and has the physical tools to develop and become a lockdown defender. While he's not going to match their defensive impact immediately, his shooting and overall game could make him one of the better players in one of the most coveted archetypes in the NBA.

In summation, I've been in the camp of wanting to break up the Trae and DJ pairing for a while now, but after thinking about it, 20 PPG scorers with playmaking abilities don't grow on trees, and we have two of them. The likelihood of trading DJ and getting comparable talent back in return is slim to none. If Risacher's shot is as good as I think it is, he's only going to make us better offensively because all of those open three's Saddiq was bricking last season, could now be makes. It all boils down to things working out on the defensive side of the ball.

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

I thought AJ would be a good sweetener in a Murray or Capela deal. Didn't think he'd bring back anything valuable on his own. 

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Hawks should trade back into the second round and draft Kyle Filipowski.

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Absolutely, but the fanbase aren't experts. The experts that actually scout and know what they're talking about had Risacher as the best prospect. Anyway, I hope Sarr has a great career in Washington.

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Risacher was the top prospect on every major draft board. Washington got the second best prospect, and Washington was the worst destination for that kid. Trying to develop next to a ball hog in Kyle Kuzma and the Javale McGee of point guards in Jordan Poole will have that man reconsidering not working out for the Hawks. You saw how disappointed he was when everyone realized Zac was going #1.

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On a side note, we had a 101 Offensive Rating without Trae and Dejounte on the floor. Damn. That would've been the 3rd worst offense in the NBA...in 1997. 💀

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Trade Clint for whatever we can get and sign Isaiah Hartenstein. Trade Dejounte to Orlando for Isaac and whoever else makes the money work and sign KCP. You have Trae Young and Quin Snyder, they'll figure out how to make this a top 10 offense. If this actually happens we might legitimately have a top 10 defense next season.

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Stop it. Every scouting report says this kid's biggest weakness is his handle and getting his own shot. That's the exact opposite of Paul George.  

Anyway, I hope he can come in an contribute by knocking down open shots and being an active defender on the wing. He does that, he should have a solid rookie season.

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Onyeka Okongwu #17

Something to look for in his rookie season, #1 picks that average at least 13 PPG have mostly turned out to have good careers. If he averages 17+ he's likely to be an all-star. If he averages less than 12...🥲

NBA averaged 1.6 million on national TV this regular season. The WNBA is averaging 1.3 million. 

If 2.3 million on a random Sunday afternoon in June is a special circumstance, compare that to Knicks/Bucks on CHRISTMAS doing 2.5 million. 

I'm calling it right now. Once Clark, Reese, Brink, the other young talent in this class, and the amazing players that will be in the league in the coming years, once those players have matured and are leading good teams, the WNBA will consistently draw ratings on par with the NBA.