OK, so, I've been hit up by some PNWers already that claim total greenage rights against the East Coast. I think I figured out why I feel the East Coast is greener, speaking as a Central Californian. Prior to visiting the East coast, the only green terrain I had seen was mountainous. Sequoia national park, Yosemite, places like that. The flora of the PNW reminded me of that type of landscape. While beautiful, it didn't make me feel like I was any type of landscape that was foreign to me, I had seen it before. Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York felt totally different. Trees and plants that are not endemic to regions that I have known my whole life were literally everywhere I looked. The greenery was a major mindfuck, while the greenery in Oregon was much more familiar to me.

I can understand that point of view, for sure.

Fine. I concede. All very green areas. I guess they just all broke my central valley desert but still agricultural area brain.

Don't let your horse eat them.

This is actually an important distinction and I'm glad you brought it up. Yes, grass everywhere out east. Lots of tall aggressive grass. But drive though Jersey on I95 and tell me there's not a ton of forest. You can't, because there is.

Yea, I have been to Portland twice. I have seen it from the air. Definitely greener than central CA (not a high bar but its definitely pretty green). Not as green as the east coast. Not even close in my opinion.

It wasn't meant to be funny. It was my genuine observation. Are you positing that the PNW is greener than the east coast? Generally speaking?

I am from the flatest part of the region with the flatest topography in the state (outside of the eastern desert regions). The population is aprox 150k and we have 2 water towers. When I was in the Chicago burbs my friend and I started calling out water towers like it was a game of slug bug. They were everywhere. Not sure if "flatness" is the only factor but I would love to learn more.

I have been, definitely more green than central CA but not on the level of what I saw out east.

As a west coaster, the first time I traveled to the east coast I was blown away by how green everything was. Talking to the locals, I was like, dude, there's giant green grass next to your freeways! And they were like, "what's next to your freeways?" Dead plants and gravel. Hella dirt, that's what. "If the plants are dead, why don't they tear it out and put something else there?" Because it's green for 2 weeks a year and it makes us feel good.

Seriously though, we have trees all over the place, but the general green-ness cannot be understated. It was wild.

And then I went to the Midwest for the first time and was even more blown away. Can I get, one goddamn palm tree to make me feel safe? And what's up with the water towers every quarter mile?

I also question those men who say nothing changes.

Question all you want, but the fact is, for the vast majority of us, nothing changed. So there's your answer. We say nothing changed because nothing changed.

Exactly.

6 year olds gonna 6 year old. I am constantly fighting a battle with my inner parenthood about being a helicopter parent and letting them do their own thing. Because I know that as soon as I let my guard down they're going to do something like what you just described.

$1.99 for dish soap is expensive to you? I'm not rich, or a Karen, but that is not expensive. Which part of the eastern block do you live in?

Yes. Next question.

I was playing in a 3 group not too long ago and we tried this exact thing. I'm willing to lose out on a hole or 2 to speed the play up. But the guy behind us did not agree. This m'fer followed us for 2 holes and when we got to a tee box we could tee off from (with no one behind us) he starts yelling and berating us for bad golf etiquette. We explain the situation but he doesn't want to hear it. Tells us that everyone has been waiting patiently all day and skipping ahead is against proper etiquette. We were perplexed. Like, we're getting less play for the same price, if anyone is losing out it's us, but we're OK with it. If anything this is speeding things up because now play is less backlogged in the place that we were. We ended up just leaving. There was only 2 holes left at that point anyway and we didn't want to deal with a potential situation like OPs.

Yeah, same. Such an unnecessary notification as well. When fluid stops coming out, I will know I need more fluid.

Yeah I'll let you know for sure. Being a holiday week I'm not sure I'll be able to get it in until next week but I'm going to call to schedule an appointment tomorrow.

Hmm. I'm not due for an oil change but I do have a notification right now for low wiper fluid, as well as the recalls. Yeah, sounds like I need to take it into the dealer.

Thanks!

Rodney. Classic joke.

I'm too old for these acronyms. I only recognize The Story So Far. Who is USAD and WYDS?

Tulare blows.

🎶I goooot James Woods🎶

I don't know of any grocery store that won't take cash, but I've never been to a Fred Meyer so I can't answer with 100% certainty. However I will say the answer is probably.

No, he's a regular dude that dies. Then the angel of Death uses his body as a vessel to explore the Earth and experience love or something. If it sounds like it doesn't make sense it's because it doesn't.