They may not be led by the Spirit. Sometimes there are those who are new and learning. It still comes down to how much the individual has learned and grown from scripture.

It only harms those whom feel they can create a God in their own image. Yes Rome was open about same sex relations even with the emperors. You need to learn your history. Paul is addressing it.

I agree with the script posted. God bless you friend. šŸ™šŸ¼

Sorry but look up the history of Rome during the times and tell me if history itself is also wrong with Paul. You say Paul misunderstood? Thatā€™s a bad take from scripture thinking that Paul is wrong.

I will disagree because God didnā€™t make gay men or women. He made woman for man. To procreate and marry. Itā€™s obvious but sin has corrupted our minds and hearts so we are told not to lean on our own understanding. Script is clews man for woman. Then came the fall then came corruption. I do appreciate your honesty. šŸ™šŸ¼ I do agree that the focus is on God no matter who you are. Let God deal with the individual.

So:

for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Donā€™t mean men with men. Or males with males and females with females being wrong. šŸ˜‘

Or verse 31 : without natural affection.

Guess thatā€™s wrong then too.

I just disagree. Thatā€™s all.

NRSV is a great word for word translation to study with. I usually only stick to word for word translations. Not much on thought for thought.

It was written to Christians living in Rome. Rome was pagan in Belfast and practiced same sex relations. It was practiced among the emporium and elites, emperors, and citizens. Men with men and men even with younger men and boys. Women with women as well. Not poor translation. Just denial or biblical truth.

So do we throw out the first chapter of Romans? Considering it was rebuking their pagan beliefs and practices which same sex relations were practiced and even with young boys. Hmm.šŸ¤” wonder why would that have been written if it was ok ?
I disagree and believe what Paul wrote was accurate to the time then and apply today.

Itā€™s what the Bible says: Genesis 2:22

22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man

Romans 1

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: šŸ‘‰27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.šŸ‘ˆ 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient:

But I guess your respond is the translation is wrong.

I guess they donā€™t have to. Itā€™s not a command but that is why God made woman. For man.

I had the desire and creative conception and started out with simple equipment but health took another path and so did my finances. So mine ended up done. When drones came out I was pumped because I knew what could be done with them in film. I do appreciate other film makers. Always like editing as well and colorizing.

Jesus said there would be two kinds

True and false Christians. You will know them by their fruit. The parable of wheat and tares explains this.

How so which principal ?? itā€™s from that very book

The anti LGBTQ theology is from scripture.

It does make it contrary to God design. When God says it is a sin then it is.

They write that because the script says we are born into sin, our mind and hearts are bent towards even and we have a desire for our fresh and not spiritual living. Everything I stated is from scripture. I can provide them for you if you would like them. Not every religious belief is God inspired only that of the Bible. Many religions do however promote the similar principles of the Bible such as love and peace, joy , ect..

I donā€™t wish to hurt anyone either but I didnā€™t write the word. Thatā€™s the one thing about scripture being God breathed or inspired. If it was written only by carnal men and not inspired by God then why on earth would they write a message that is convicting mankind and their thinking, their hearts, and their depravity of spiritual understanding. Why would they write something that all humans have a kinetic drive towards transgression and are in need of redemption. ?

Men donā€™t write to condemn men and require a savior. Thatā€™s a message from God written by men.

No that just happens to be a medical issue and it is as well as health defects part of the curse and fall of man. Otherwise everything would ā€œbe goodā€. Infertility for both is rare but in either case adoption would still play a role for reality in the fact there is a mother and father.

Give in secret Matt 6:4 Fast in secret Matt 6:18 Pray in secret Matt 6:6 I believe there is a time for corporate prayer on issues but these three are specifically singled out for private use only. I have also been more alone than with those in church groups. Sometimes banding with likeminded individuals is a form of church. šŸ™šŸ¼

Youā€™re entitled to your opinion and interpretation. I find it actually quite real.

And I would agree to a secularist or even one in a same sex relationship that they would feel the same way. To them itā€™s more about what they feel they want to experience in life rather than that of what is written in a book. They have that choice but the OP asked why. I just gave a reason I believe is in line with what Gods design is. But thanks for your comment.

Itā€™s eternal but the torment is more knowledge of rejecting love. Itā€™s separation from true love. That is tormenting enough emotionally. Gnashing of teeth is gritting your teeth in frustration. Weeping because you were selfish and rejected Jesus. Forever you will be in torment over it. It is eternal because the other side of it is eternal life.

Itā€™s not compatible to being fruitful and multiplying. Male and female is more more than just a relationship. Itā€™s a co-union with creation. Producing life. Something same-sex relationships cannot do.