Or Better yet Luka come to Trinidad! Build us up for the future. Next Olympics is ours.

Luka come to America!

Its not too late.

Should have kept Mo. Reed was ok, but Mo was a truly better center and fit for the Sixers. Mo got picked up quick in FA as other teams know his value.

I kept telling 76ers fans that Mo is better than Reed. Mo got picked up quick in FA also. 76ers messed up their lineups should have kept Mo with more minutes than Reed.

Thank you OP, I honestly was just in a debate with someone about how Suggs is clearly better than Anfernee.

Many still believe Suggs is some terrible offensive player and is only playable because of his defense and its honestly crazy. Jalen is a legit 3rd option on a top playoff team. He is playing the same role Philly Jimmy did, or KP (from Boston), or Andrew Wiggins from recent championship Warriors, he is guarding the other teams best player most of the minutes while also being a top scoring threat. Suggs isnt the same as before.

I absolutely take him over Anfernee going back to the recent debate. Suggs is an all-world defender, who would have been all nba first team if the rules didnt change this season, and is a guy that can pretty easily drop 15+ and sometimes pop off and drop 20+. He needs consistency and throughout the season we saw his usage get higher and higher as honestly the Magic had no other options and Suggs was filling the role as a top reliable scorer. Gary Harris was a negative offensive option, so Suggs stepped up and did it extremely well despite also having to run around and put pressure on the entire opposing team the entire game. It must be extremely hard to play that elite defense and still be the main playmaker (his playmaking stats are actually very high just maybe not raw stats), 3rd option scorer, who needs to also play offball and keep the opposing team on their toes, and be the best fastbreak threat on our team. Suggs filled alot of shoes because of necessity and he did it more than well enough.

I keep telling anybody that will listen but Suggs could be an All Star very soon, the guy is a top 10 athlete in the NBA, it goes under the radar because he isnt always offensively minded but his strength, speed, burst, flexibility, and honestly most importantly stamina and durability are all elite. The guy plays hard every minute on the court, while taking punishment for his risky playstyle. Suggs isnt the same as he was his first 2 years, he added something to his game every offseason, and this season he fully blossomed a unique playstyle that I cant see any other player emulate. Its a playstyle that fits Jalens motor, its a playstyle that fits his intensity, its a playstyle that allows him to push his limits and grow. If Jalen Suggs gets the max, I think its absolutely worth it. I truly see him as a top guard in this league not that far away, he is a growing 3 level offensive and defensive threat , with all world defense, deep range, insane athleticism, leadership, and gamechanging momentum shifting intensity. If he continues his developmental trend, I can see Suggs being the most talked about player on our team and I am serious.

Who can the Pels give for BI? The Magic only need a Center right now. I wouldnt mind if Orlando does a 3 team trade getting Wendell to the pels and taking Misi.

Orlando gets Misi Pels get Wendell and a pick from Sac Sac gets BI

Or something along those lines is ok for me.

If we want to go a little weird

Orlando gets Sabo

Pels get Wendell and Jett

Sac get Demar and Vuc

Bulls get BI (or JA)

Cleveland gets BI* (if they join in)

I am sure Orlando may need to give up picks and possibly Goga to somebody but this surprisingly imo works.

Orlando gets a super upgrade at center with years on his contract.

Pels gets away from Duke wing BI and get a young still growing Duke center to pair Zion the Duke legend. Wendell has shown elite 2way ability when healthy and became an great shooting big last season plus a young wing in Jett who could develop to be a BI replacement. Naturally this is reliant on the Pels really valuing Wendell similar to BI as reported above. If they do then I dont think they lose out getting Jett with Wendell for BI.

Sac are the ones most likely to say no but if they were pivoting I dont think this is a bad return. Demar is still an elite scorer from all ranges except 3. Vuc while no longer a sharpshooter, is still a strong PNR and rebounding center who sets strong screens and will draw pressure low post and will dish it out to the open man. I think Vuc will do a decent job replacing sabo offensively and slightly defensively. VUC probably right now just a worst Sabo and maybe Sac are ok with that if they can add Demar who still plays like a top 30 player. BUT like the pels this is reliant on Sac really valuing Demar highly. If they do I think this is a good package they may need a bit more but I like the idea of surrounding Vuc with the shooters from Sac. Vuc may be able to refind his Orlando glory with how the Sac team is kinda structured to the Vuc Orlando days. Sac may need to get some Orlando pick(s) to get this done. Demar also would need to sign for a reasonable price for 3 years which is something he said he would do (for at least 1 year). Getting Demar for 20million for 3 years could also be considered a steal.

Bulls I can see liking this trade also. They get BI who hopefully re-signs but if he doesnt, they get off of Vuc and Demar contract. They can officially tank. Hope Lavine refinds himself later on or better yet still look for a trade partner for him, pick up the flagg and possibly be right back in contention very soon. They may ask for a second or something or a cheap player from 1 of the teams but generally this just allows them to reset quicker and try to convince BI and Lavine that they have a future together. If they decide there is no redemption and they are going starting anew, they could trade BI to Cleveland for Jarret Allan.

Cleveland is also tricky but they have been linked to BI for sometime, they need a wing that can slot in as a shotcreator and connector. BI fits in pretty well. Losing JA would be a hard blow. Maybe Chicago or Orlando would need to add something to get this going but if the rumors are all true and if JA and Cleveland relationship has slightly soured, getting BI may not be a move they are against.

Orlando- Suggs, KCP, Franz, Paolo, Sabo with AB, Cole, Da Silva, Moe, Ji.

Pels- Dejounte, CJ, Herb, Zion, Wendell with Jose, Hawkins, Jett(?), Trey, Missi.

Sac- Fox, Demar, Keegan, Barnes, Vuc with Carter, Monk, Huerter, Lyles, Len

Bulls- Giddey, Lavine, BI, Pwill, Smith with Ayo, Coby, Matas, ?, ?.

or Giddey, Coby, Lavine, Pwill, JA with Ayo, Terry, Matas, ?, ?.

Cleveland- Garland, DM, BI, Wade, Mobley with their bench

Again Bulls may ask for a little more to have a complete lineup. I also think they might as well reroute BI somewhere else and pick up a center. The goal for them would be to play the young guys more minutes, so they would need to somehow get Matas and Coby in the SL. But this could be a good start and BI may be an easier player to find a trade partner for. Maybe Bulls go to the Cavs and try to get JA for BI.

I think this works out for everybody involved maybe except the Kings.

I still want a true center trade. I wouldnt hate using Wendell, Gary and possibly Cole/Jett (though I really dont want to lose either of these 2) to get a better Center upgrade but this was a great offseason imo.

I can see this team massively improving. We have some fans that forget that Orlando had like a 90% chance at #2 up to a 2 weeks before end of season and then they had some terrible losses to clearly worst teams. Those are unlucky losses that I am sure they wish they had back. If Orlando was in Knicks spot, I truly think the Magic reaches CF also.

The team was good, its not like a big gap between 2-6 in the East, Orlando was in fact dominating during their hardest stretch before Mosley made those starting lineup changes that ruined the entire teams momentum. They brought back everybody who helped this team look successful last season, made a crucial and synergistic FA signing and if we bank on natural progression, the team should be poised to be top 4 in the East even if other teams also made moves.

Suggs, KCP, Franz, Paolo, Star C with AB, Jett/Cole/Gary, Moe, JI, Goga. Tds fill in occasionally.

DESERVED! FRANZ IS THE FRANCHISE.

HE IS THE FUTURE OF THE NBA! Franz "Boogie" "OnlyFranz" Wagner is a future superstar. Any of y'all complaining about this but not complaining about Cade's or Scottie's contracts are biased or just dont watch the Magic and stick to media talking points.

Franz has not been worse that Scottie or Cade, yes I know Scottie was a so called All-Star (injury replacement and picked because the Raptors are almost contractually obligated to have an All Star every year there were many players on winning teams that deserved the spot over him and I truly believe it) but I absolutely still pick Franz over him in every redraft.

Franz has actually shown he can bring his teams wins, he had some of the best numbers in impact numbers playoffs despite that terrible g7 and he is 1a/1b with Paolo despite popular belief that this is Paolo's team. Unlike any of the other guys from Franz's class he is the only one to truly show he is a 1st option caliber player, a guy that plays 30+ mins of winning basketball usually is always a top scorer for his team and is a huge focus point for opponents.

I think Franz is the most pure #1 option on from his class, I do see a case for Cade (but imo he seems more like a 3rd option) as he has been playing #1 option like Franz from the beginning of his NBA career, and Sengun and Jalen Green as they like Franz have IT factors that differentiates themselves from other NBA players. Winning #1 options usually have something that sets you apart an IT factor, whether its insane athleticism, great shotcreation, unstoppable drives, dominating low post game or strong gravity and control. To be a #1 option imo outside of having high usage, the player needs to command a great deal of time playing against the other teams best defender or have the ability to force the defense to bring multiple to defend you, and the player should not collapse as soon as they are pressured but should be able to playing winning bball. I only really see that from Franz, but I do think Sengun, Green, and possibly Cade are getting there. The rest are 3rd options right now.

Franz has shown much more than many others in his draft class and I will always say that. Franz had a down year offensively, that we all clearly can see and it has been mentioned by every media outlet that takes the rare chance to talk about Orlando, but they rarely talk about Franz actually being one of the best wing defenders in the NBA, THAT Franz was elite defensively, that he was switching onto pretty much everybody and that he had insane advanced stats. Franz is always under the radar, even when he pops off the media refuses to speak about it, but the guy has been phenomenal these 3 years. Franz lost a huge part of his offense in a rare 3rd year slump but he excelled in every other area including playmaking. Franz was in All Star convos early when the Magic were #2 in the East, he might have been a fringe pick at the time but he was gaining traction then he messed his ankles up and Paolo took over and started dominating. I still see Paolo and Franz as equals but Paolo is the better drawer of attention and Franz is the better offball player that can cause mischief for the opponent defensive schemes. I see a superstar in him and thats probably why he is leading an Olympic gold medal contender as their best player.

I literally do watch Anf, and he is not better than Suggs. Suggs can also drop 15+ a night easily consistently if he gets the touches and he is game changing defense. We saw his usage go up throughout the season with more confidence from him and teammates and just from necessity as Gary lost all postives aspects from his offensive skillset and Franz became useless from deep, only Suggs stepped up to become our elite shooter (something like 38% on 6 attempts a night i think). Wendell also had a career year shooting though*

Anf is close to being called a premier offensive player but Suggs IS a PREMIER defender. Suggs offense isnt as bad Anfs defense and in fact, I would consider Suggs a above average offensive player getting close to great, its just needs him getting more touches and smoother with his in between game. I would consider Anf a below average defender.

Also Offense isnt everything, the Magic was top 3 defense in the NBA for the whole season. They were #2 in the East 1-2 games back from the Celtics halfway through the season when we had the #1 defense. The Magic were dominating teams, good or bad teams, had I think the best 1st quarter in the league and were winning many gaves by 12+. They were able to bench Franz and Paolo early in the 4th because we were just that strong. KG and Paul Pierce had a viral segment talking about how strong that Magic group was.

As soon as the Magic focused on bringing in some offense and benching our elite defenders in AB and Goga for better offensive guys like Markelle, Gary and Wendell, they slid to 7th/8th place. They fell for all the criticism around the league despite winning and made adjustments and we just lost all cohesion.

The Magic were literally #2 in the East during our hardest stretch, slid heavy during our average sos, and only made 5th because we had the easiest end of season sos and picked up some crucial wins vs easy teams (while still losing some easy games to worse/injuried teams like the Bucks and Hornets). In fact the Magic had like a 90% chance of being 2nd according to betting odds like 3 weeks before end of season but that Magic group lost winnable games because they moved away from their core system that worked (defense).

Suggs is the defensive anchor, he makes this team run so well. He plays high risk high reward and it usually ends up with the Magic taking control of the momentum. Anf is great but he is no Suggs and I do watch both. Anf had a team with well known players also, in fact they were more well known than the Magic guys, Ayton, Grant, Matisse, Brogdan, RobWill etc.. all established themselves in the NBA already. So its not like Anf just had the worst team across the board, the Magic played better and Suggs is a big part to that. I honestly think Suggs is closer to being an AS than Anf. All world defender with above average offense, with top 10 athleticism and great on court leadership and doesnt shy from big moments.

And I do like Anf and want him on this team but not over Suggs. Possibly over KCP but I do think Anf is a sixth man on this orlando squad.

But I do concede being a 1st option like Anf is alot different than being a 3rd option line Suggs is.* ( I had to leave for a sec after posting and just came back to add this paragraph didnt realize that somebody already responded to me and mentioned something similar). But yes I do agree the options mean something.

Man Paolo would have fit perfectly in Italy.

Well he has little actual connection to the country but his fit on that lineup everytime I watch them I see the vision.

Magic took Cavs to 7 games in which Orlando dominated the overall +/- for the series. They had a historic collapse that in most cases would never happen. Orlando is at least tied to Cavs last season and Orlando should theoretically get better this season.

Awesome!

Hoping the Magic would do the same for Joe Ingles and Vuc(later on).

Both are skills guys that despite all odds, made themselves well known NBA players.

They will absolutely teach the young Magic players how to find a niche and enhance it into a long NBA career.

Fultz imo if he is ok with a lower deal.

Markelle is a perfect backup/3rd string PG to come in if somebody is messing up and we need stability.

Hornets legend, seemingly a nice humble guy

Orlando Magic!

Goga was decent, looks to have lost some weight.

Now that I am watching Goga, doesnt he look like he lost alot of weight?

Goga -13 +/- but 9 EFF tells the story. Get Goga some help!

Bahamas really losing this?

Hate to see the family get torn apart like this

A++ Move

Best FA Center on the market. A perfect fit for the clippers. Mo will fit right into the system and compliment Kawhi to a completely new level.

Mo will be Kawhis best teammate since Timmy D. The best 3&D center in the league with one of the greatest 3 and D forwards in the league. Its going to be scary hours for opponents trying to attack the rim or drive.

I have mixed feelings I dont mind running back but I definitely think we have a starting center problem. Wendell is fantastic and possibly its the injury that hampered him which I wont doubt but I think thats the biggest upgrade this team needs. However securing Goga for a long term deal and filling out our lineup with returners on more team friendly and manageable contracts are all A++++ moves.

THESE ARE ALL A+++++ MOVES. IM PROUD OF OUR FO.

Also this just shows that our players love Orlando. They arent leaving if they may get slightly more on the open market.

Great for the culture and synergy, run it back, but improve on the weak areas and secure longer term contracts.

A+++++++++++++++ MOVE. GJ FRONT OFFICE.

GOGA WAS A MUST KEEP. Now secure JI and push for a trade of Wendell and more for a great replacement starting center (unless Goga is our starter which he can absolutely do).