Nah. They just passed the buck on to Spotify, and Spotify blamed the distributor. Back and forth. According to them, nobody did it..

Lol I got downvoted for mentioning that I subbed to the post, because this plugin would also be useful to me. 🫶🏻

Following.

Nah. Curators decline more than they accept. The playlists you get on there are all verified and legit. The only one I got accepted to is by the label 'InYourChill' that I've been listening to for years. They've got lots of big artists under them, hundreds of thousands of followers across all platforms, and they sell merch successfully. They wouldn't want bots anywhere near em..

The bot playlists that added me are a problem for people that don't use submithub too. The 'Wave.ai' playlists, the 'billboard hot 100' playlists. All the streams come from the same place. I'm pretty sure I first saw them before I even started using submithub. Like after I started using the 'Distrokid Wheel Of Playlist'. Through my distributors app..

I've known all along that music is best when you do it for the love of the craft. I don't do it for money. I am however trying to gain a small following. I've been told many times that my music is criminally underrated.. I know I can write music that people enjoy listening to as much as I enjoy making it..

Just because followers and streams are trivial, doesn't mean that I don't enjoy it when people vibe to my music. The times people have told me they love something I wrote and produced, and send dancing gifs in the comments etc etc, is like a drug..

When this song went up there was a lot of that. I was reaching a lot of people on Reddit, a couple posts blew up, they were following on Spotify and checking out my YouTube etc, I got onto one of my favorite labels playlists.. It was a high I haven't found anywhere else. My biggest accomplishment as a writer/producer/musician...

I know there will be other songs that do that well, as I've had other songs do that well before. It's just disheartening to have my greatest success erased..

As I said, I mainly do it for the love of music, but I know I've got what it takes to have a small following of regular listeners..

Hide the poop!

As easy as

Thanks for listening! Glad you dig it! 🤙🏻

I'd considered that a possibility but I think it's actually Distrokid or Spotify itself with the bot infestation.. There are people in the comments here who had the same fake playlists grab their song, ultimately getting it deleted, and they didn't use submithub.. They all had Distrokid and Spotify in common though..

Submithub was good, I submitted to a few playlists, got declined by some, but got accepted to the one I actually wanted to be a part of.. The playlist I got onto gave me streams slowly and organically... And it was a playlist from a label I listen to frequently on multiple platforms.

Not saying someone couldn't have hacked submithub, but like I said, lots of people with the same issues, without using submithub.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I'm done. You're clearly subscribed to many of the common misconceptions of the industry in its current state and won't budge. Just because you don't understand how things work today, doesn't mean you're right. It means you're ignorant. Now go practice your bass. Or Xbox. Whatever.. You're talking shit.

They do not accept everyone who pays them. Curators decline music all the time. The label I got my one song accepted to said they loved my music and to send more if I had any more like it. They declined the rest of the album. Do you know what curated means?

They only accept good music, the slow organic growth is real plays from real listeners who have saved the playlists, and the profit they're splitting is a 3 dollar fee.. That's not why my song got banned. It got deleted because I suddenly kept getting 900 "streams" over a 12 hour period from one IP address in Finland. That's the botted playlists. Nothing to do with any legitimate playlist I got added to. It was the couple thousand plays that were illegitimate and nothing to do with submithub.. As I said before, the botted playlists exist on Spotify and many people have dealt with them, even if they didn't use submithub or any curators..

No. Not definition of payola. You submit tracks. They either accept or decline. Many of my tracks were declined. A few were accepted. My music was curated. Payola is 'pay money - get streams'. This was 'pay a couple bucks - show your music to playlist curators, get feedback, and either added or declined'. Read the comments in this post. The founder of submithub himself even chimes in at one point. Also many other people have had the same bogus playlists add them, and had songs removed or been warned by Spotify, that have never even used submithub.. It's either a problem with my distro, or Spotify. That's what's unfair about it.

Odd that a band would even need a beginner bass player. What did you release? Twinkle twinkle little star? Give me a break.

Submithub is a legit broker between popular, verified playlist curators and up and coming artists. The playlists I got onto through there were through popular labels that I was already a fan of before submitting. The growth was slow and steady. The funny business came from either Distrokid or Spotify itself. The bogus playlists that added me were doing it completely against my will, with no warning. Like "wave.ai" playlists and "billboard hot 100" bullshit. Blatantly and obviously fake.. 500 plays overnight all in the same city.. Not only did it eventually fuck up my song, but it made it hard to track my actual growth.. I'm using streaming as a source of exposure. I'm not in it for the money. So paying for streams for me would offer 0 returns.. I submitted and was accepted by one of my favorite labels because it was a goal of mine since I started my current project.. This was one of my biggest accomplishments in my amateur music career, and it was taken from me unfairly due to problems with the platforms themselves. I did nothing wrong.

I don't. I use Distrokid.. That's how you get music on Spotify. My distributor places my music on up to 15 streaming services simultaneously. Without a distro, you're stuck with Soundcloud, Bandcamp, and YouTube. Once you become verified by a distributor your music is uploaded everywhere for you.. You would know that, if you were even remotely part of the scene.

I didn't. They removed one song. My most successful song across all platforms. Only removed from Spotify. Due to their botted playlists. Nothing to do with me. And completely unfair business practice on their part. If they can identify fake streams, they should be removing the playlists responsible for the streams, not the artists' music. And you have not one trace of a music career on your profile. You're a beginner bass player. None of this concerns you.

Get a life. LOL. 😒

First of all, you're not a musician. You don't belong here, and your opinion is meaningless. Put down the video games and go practice your bass.

Secondly, I'm a multi instrumentalist and an amateur producer, with over 20 years experience in music. I've been successful at writing and producing music, and had up to 750 monthly listeners on Spotify after my last release. Thousands of streams over multiple streaming services. Just because I'm a part time musician doesn't mean my work isn't valid. I write music because I love doing it, and it's something I'm good at. It's not my career, and I have no dreams of grandeur.

Lastly, if you care more about the corporations than the artists (big or small, artists are what drive this platform you're shilling for), what are you even doing here? Sell your bass and start trolling people on Xbox instead. ✌🏻

Because I don't do it for fame or money. I do it for the love of music, on the side. I still have to market myself as if I was in the rat race if I want to gain a following of listeners, but since my financial stability isn't riding on my success as a musician, I'm not grinding. I still love making music. That's why music. Even if the industry was 100% worse than it is now. I will always love making music.

I feel bad for the ones that burn out after making the move from part time amateur to full time starving artist.. Hard to enjoy the craft when your next pack of ramen depends on 1000 more plays on Spotify.

Why music? Because music.

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Hourglass!

This single had around 5k streams and I didn't see a penny. Not even a notification. Albeit the stats were skewed due to their bot problem, I know I had lots of legit plays from the playlists I joined intentionally, and just from posting on Reddit too. Meh. Like I said in the post I was mainly in it for exposure. Funny that I went way past 1k streams and didn't even get a notification about monetization though.. The lo-fi playlist by InYourChill I submitted to was getting me ~300 streams a week..

Yeah, but I said all artists. That would include them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Literally just a cheap fender Mustang amp using the "vintage tremolo" preset, recorded through a Shure SM-58 knockoff mic. No pedals. Everything else was done in post production with my favorite vintage/LoFi plugins.

Just goes to show you don't really need a $3k pedalboard to get nice sounds. Although fancy pedals are pretty sweet.