There is up until now nothing like meat for me. I think many vegans and vegetarians have less of a taste for it so they don't understand why people can't just switch it off.

I have reduced my meat consumption for a few reasons however. Health, cost and the environment.

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape

I love this meme. Is there any municipality that they run? I am trying to look for where they have a majority

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape

If you want to understand what Zuma does, just follow what Vladimir Putin does.

Threats are normally empty threats meant to coercively manipulate opponents. This unrest would not serve Zuma's interests at all at the moment. Expect this to happen when the government is formed.

The election rigging narrative is meant to prime their followers so they can strike the match when it suits them.

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape

They are not committing to nor have they entered talks with the ANC as yet. That is why it is fake news.

And as others have said: coalitions are not the only option. Just stop with this bullshit now please. We are in a very precarious position right now, no thanks to the anti DA propaganda posted on this very group to promote cape independence.

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape
10hLink

Guys it's just vote shedding. The votes will come back 🀑

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Western Cape
12hLink

The analysis of the SRF thus far has been very good. They predicted the rise of MK, the faltering support for the EFF and the ANC coming in low. This option makes a lot of sense for everyone involved

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Western Cape
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It's exactly that for both sides. They would be ethno states

Fikile Mbalula: Ramaphosa Remains LeaderπŸ“° News

In their press conference at the IEC operations center, Fikile Mbalula answered that the ANC has no plan to remove Ramaphosa and they remain steadfast as leadership.

According to him they are engaging with all parties, but they are not willing to negotiate with other parties on the basis of the removal of Ramaphosa.

I am sincerely hoping for an agreement for the DA to take the lead and govern unimpeded. I also think the dissolution of the Johannesburg city council will be on the cards.

Yeah we should never underestimate stupidity.

With regards to the corrupt mindset. A pirate ship can only have one captain. If they can come to an agreement on how to divide the spoils I don't see it holding as they will no doubt become suspicious about someone taking more than their agreed share.

There are so many ways this can go wrong and so few ways this can go right. it will have to be a strategic masterstroke from the Ramaphosa ANC and partners. I suspect however that the DA leadership has been preparing for this moment for many years. Then again so has Zuma.

At the very least I don't think our politics will be boring for the next five years.

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape

The ANC controlled the narrative on this in the media. It was almost like it didn't matter how many times the DA answered the question.

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Western Cape

He is even better at losing votes than losing weight!

Speculations on what government will look likeπŸ€” Opinion

If the ANC coalesces with EFF/MK they will be signing their own death warrants. Imagine two children fighting over a toy and breaking it in half.

The DA is life support for them. They are still dying but it will be a dignified slower death.

From the ANCs perspective, it will buy them time to recover and time for the PA/EFF/MK to all implode.

This is a lot like the second world war. After Germany was defeated a new adversary came in the form of the USSR. Enemies became allies.

The problem is that you can never predict these things, and the ANC has made many serious miscalculations in the past 15 years. I don't know what will happen but I would hazard a guess that:

There is no formal coalition. The ANC is permitted to get their presidential candidate and budgets are agreed upon but ultimately voted in.

The DA/IFP/ANC cobble together a government in KZN. The IFP is put in charge.

Paul Mashatile is expelled from vice presidency in Favour of the IFP leader Hlabisa.

The chief whip of the DA, Siviwe Gwarube is the speaker of parliament.

Cyril Ramaphosa remains the president for the next five years.

The DA agrees that the cabinet can be hired at Ramaphosas discretion. He may choose one ministry for the DA as a good faith measure. I heard the minister of tourism position has a vacancy, and this is an important ministry for the western cape.

Driven by the fact that the ANC no longer has governance of 8 provinces, some, but not all functions are devolved to provinces. Most notably, policing powers.

Some reduction in cadre deployment and the DA plays a leading role in parliamentary oversight.

Different parties are given roles in parliament as the ANC tries to sketch a narrative of unity and stability.

The NHI is an unknown. It is something the ANC feels strongly about, but MPC partners are very against. I expect a stalemate.

ImNotThatPokable
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Western Cape

It's easy to look at it like this, but this is far from a realistic picture of what is going on in South Africa.

Our voter turn out is at an all time low, which is a reflection of the dire state of affairs. People feel disillusioned because all they ever hear is promise without improvement. They are in an abusive relationship with a kleptocratic government. They don't believe things can improve and they are constantly reminded of what the ANC did for them and how there can be no other options.

If you consider that, you cannot say that South Africans will always vote the same way. They have withheld their votes.

What is happening right now is something to be celebrating. What it represents is a rebalance of power that can have a number of positive outcomes. Don't despair. All is not lost.